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Pentagon Had Secret War Game Study That Foretold of Unwinnable War In Iraq

 
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Pentagon Had Secret War Game Study That Foretold of Unwinnable War In Iraq
U.S. war games warned of chaos in Iraq

(Saturday, November 4, 2006 | 5:19 PM ET)

The Associated Press

The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops and even then chaos might ensue.

In its "Desert Crossing" games, 70 military, diplomatic and intelligence officials assumed the high troop levels would be needed to keep order, seal borders and take care of other security needs.

The documents came to light Saturday through a Freedom of Information Act request by the George Washington University's National Security Archive, a research institute and library.

"The conventional wisdom is the U.S. mistake in Iraq was not enough troops," said Thomas Blanton, the archive's director.
"But the Desert Crossing war game in 1999 suggests we would have ended up with a failed state, even with 400,000 troops on the ground."

There are currently about 144,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, down from a peak of about 160,000 in January.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Central Command, which sponsored the seminar and declassified the secret report in 2004, declined comment Saturday because she was not familiar with the documents.

Similarities on the ground;

The war games looked at "worst-case" and "most-likely" scenarios after a war that removed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein from power. Some are similar to what actually occurred after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003:

· "A change in regimes does not guarantee stability," the 1999 seminar briefings said. "A number of factors including aggressive neighbours, fragmentation along religious and/or ethnic lines and chaos created by rival forces bidding for power could adversely affect regional stability."

· "Even when civil order is restored and borders are secured, the replacement regime could be problematic — especially if perceived as weak, a puppet, or out-of-step with prevailing regional governments."

· "Iran's anti-Americanism could be enflamed by a U.S.-led intervention in Iraq," the briefings read. "The influx of U.S. and other Western forces into Iraq would exacerbate worries in Tehran, as would the installation of a pro-Western government in Baghdad."

· "The debate on post-Saddam Iraq also reveals the paucity of information about the potential and capabilities of the external Iraqi opposition groups. The lack of intelligence concerning their roles hampers U.S. policy development."

· "Also, some participants believe that no Arab government will welcome the kind of lengthy U.S. presence that would be required to install and sustain a democratic government."

· "A long-term, large-scale military intervention may be at odds with many coalition partners."



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It's funny, but it seems to me, a long, unending,unwinnable war/occupation would be much more profitible for the War Industry the likes of Haliburton and KBR, et al, than a decisive quick victory and timley pullout would have been. Maybe that's why all the "sectarian violence" and the death squads/suicide bombers are being orchestrated by the MOSSAD/CIA courtesy of Michael Vickers ...oh, but then again, I do have a suspicious mind...

lol

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"squads/suicide bombers are being orchestrated by the MOSSAD/CIA courtesy of Michael Vickers"

let us not forget UK MI6 as well..
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nevermind the pentagon, a child could work this out. So we must keep digging to find out why they took this root and why so many lives are being wrecklessly squandered!!!!
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But those stupid Pentagon war gamers didn't take into account that G-d was on our side!

When he finishes his golf game, He's gonna kick some Muslim butt!
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nevermind the pentagon, a child could work this out. So we must keep digging to find out why they took this root and why so many lives are being wrecklessly squandered!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 223704


Maybe you should ask a child then because you obviously are too dense to get it ...

..it's called $$$$; you know, that God you worship.


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The problem is victory conditions. If your victory conditions were to overthrow the government and defeat the military then we have won.

If your victory conditions are for the people to support a continuous occupation as long as their is oil to be had, and that the people should be happy about it, then victory will not happen.
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The problem is victory conditions. If your victory conditions were to overthrow the government and defeat the military then we have won.

If your victory conditions are for the people to support a continuous occupation as long as their is oil to be had, and that the people should be happy about it, then victory will not happen.
 Quoting: Arch~Angel 206079


Oil was not the reason we went into Iraq. War Profit and ....Israel's Imperial Objectives were... this war is now and has been run out of Tel Aviv all along alla the "Democrat" and highest ranking Mossad asset in the country "Trader Joe" Lieberman.

We got our oil from Iraq when we needed to get oil. Saddam Hussein probably single handedly gave us the long-standing low interest rates,the bull markets of the eighties and nineties by undercutting OPEC prices. (Without Saddam Hussein, there would have been no Miami Vice lifestyle ....or Miami Vice t.v. series for that matter ...lol). Of course, he pissed off the House of Saud in the process of selling us cheaper oil, and eventually their Bush family handmaidens in Washington came inot power by stealing the election in 2000 (with the help of the Mossad and Chinese Intel), so he had to go, on e way or the other.

Plus, Israel has now reclaimed their true homeland; Babylon.

(Wait 'til you see what they have in store for us ...).

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