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Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.

 
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Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.

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Recap - UFO & Antigravity Disclosure - From Coast To Coast

UFO Researcher David Sereda discussed his recent work, videotaping the disclosure of 73-year old Boyd Bushman, a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance. He holds a number of patents and designed the Red Eye Missile (now the Stinger Missile), and infrared FLIR systems. Bushman also reverse engineered antigravity and UFO technology, Sereda reported.

There is a force related to the expansion of the universe that is actually stronger than gravity, and this could relate to antigravity propulsion, Bushman told him. He demonstrated phases that lead up to antigravity, including experiments in which magnets reduced the gravity of a rock. Bushman verified that Area 51 in Nevada was indeed the place where alien craft were tested-- but such testing moved to a facility in Utah after Area 51 became well known, he noted.

Bushman also revealed that he was friends with a Navy doctor that treated a pilot who shot down the Roswell craft in 1947. Though he didn't state the specific type of weapon used, Sereda speculated that it might have been Tesla's "death ray," confiscated by the government after Tesla's death in 1943. Bushman also showed Sereda a diagram for a nuclear-powered flying saucer (click on photo above), which he said was first flown out of Wright Patterson AFB in 1959.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Tesla's "death rays" were microwaves. This goes right along with Bill Cooper who passed on that, in the early days (late 40's, early 50's), locked-on radar with "the juice poured on" brought down many off-world craft, several even intact.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.
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What does your opinion regarding Sereda or Lazar have to do with the testimony of Boyd Bushman? If Boyd Says Lazar is legit, Why is what you have to say more meaningfull than what Boyd has to say.

I think I will believe what Boyd has to say on the subject before a listen to what your opinions are in the matter.

Unless you can tell me why your opinion is more credible than Boyd Bushman's?
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.
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Oh man, this fucker again.
You must be paid for debunking this shit.

Not one fact, just more cursing.
You obviously have an agenda, jumping into all the threads that even mention SEREDA just to troll.

Don't listen to this penis !
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.

Oh man, this fucker again.
You must be paid for debunking this shit.

Not one fact, just more cursing.
You obviously have an agenda, jumping into all the threads that even mention SEREDA just to troll.

Don't listen to this penis !
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We here at GLP have learned to ignore the DEOPs folks.

DEOPs = debunking operations.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.

What does your opinion regarding Sereda or Lazar have to do with the testimony of Boyd Bushman? If Boyd Says Lazar is legit, Why is what you have to say more meaningfull than what Boyd has to say.

I think I will believe what Boyd has to say on the subject before a listen to what your opinions are in the matter.

Unless you can tell me why your opinion is more credible than Boyd Bushman's?
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All you have to indicate this Bushman said what he said, or even if he exists at all is Sereda's unsupported claim.

Dou you KNOW, from personal experience, that he said what it is claimed he said?

Do you KNOW, from personal experience, that he has the credentials Sereda claims he has?

Are you aware that the vast bulk of reputable UFO researchers reject Lazar's educational claims?

All you have is the unsupported claim from someone with a large financial interest in the claims made by Bushman, and has provided NO primary source material at all?

Understand I am NOT saying Serda's claims are wrong, I do not know one way or the other, I AM saying that like most other crackpots with a financial agenda Sereda is fond of making claims that sound nice on the surface but are backed up by no verifiable data.

[link to www.v-j-enterprises.com]

[link to www.serve.com]

Read em and weep, bunkers!
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.

Oh man, this fucker again.
You must be paid for debunking this shit.

Not one fact, just more cursing.
You obviously have an agenda, jumping into all the threads that even mention SEREDA just to troll.

Don't listen to this penis !
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Exactly what I would expect to hear from sereda or one of his shills when an ugly truth they have no defense against is presented.

So, what is YOUR agenda, coward?
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Zeta's/MJ-12 right again!!

ZetaTalk: Bob Lazar
Note: written on May 15, 1997

-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Like Bill Cooper, Bob Lazar is truthfully telling his experiences, and like Bill Cooper he has been attacked and knows he is at risk and could lose his life. Both these men walk a fine line and are playing a dangerous game. Where others are talking about their passing exposure to documents or peripheral details about possible crashed ships, the information Bill Cooper and Bob Lazar are providing is neither hearsay or rumor, but first-hand eye witness accounts of their activities when in direct contact with MJ12. They are both breaking a security oath in this, beyond the point where those wanting to control the outflow of information about secret government activities allow.

The line must be drawn somewhere, and they both stepped over this line. They are, in fact, both only alive because they went public, and noisily so, before they could be killed. Bob Lazar has been embroiled in scandals designed to discredit him, and has allowed this to occur as the alternative stands behind this discrediting campaign, snarling and hissing at him. As with Bill Cooper’s cooperation with rumors about his mental health, Bob Lazar has learned to live with a smear campaign as the lesser of two evils. He would rather live, discredited, than meet with an accident.

Bob Lazar truthfully relates his experiences while hired as a contractor to assist military engineers and physicists attempting to reverse engineer space ships loaned to MJ12 by aliens in the Service-to-Self. His insights into the bumbling nature of a military operation purporting to be scientific are not fantasy, nor would they surprise anyone in the private sphere exposed to how the military works. Discipline and a long history of cooperation with superiors comes before competence. However, even if the most competent scientists were to be assigned to back engineer these ships, they would not succeed, as the secret of how they work is locked where they cannot peek! The power source on these ships is truly a Pandora’s box, which disintegrates when opened, taking all in the near vicinity with it.

True to the need-to-know basis under which Bob Lazar worked, he learned little of the information already gathered by the military. He filled in the blanks with his own hypothesis, but did not arrive at the correct conclusions. Even with the information withheld from him, he or other human scientists would not arrive at the correct conclusions. The reach is too long, not only because the human brain has a relatively limited IQ, but because the hypothesis human scientists cling to out of loyalty are incorrect. They start out handicapped, and in order to progress in human society, they stick with the handicap in preference to independent thought. Thus, they are running down the wrong roads, furiously. This was well known by the aliens who provided the ships for back engineering, and were the situation to be otherwise they would not have been allowed to provide the ships.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.

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bump
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.

Oh man, this fucker again.
You must be paid for debunking this shit.

Not one fact, just more cursing.
You obviously have an agenda, jumping into all the threads that even mention SEREDA just to troll.

Don't listen to this penis !



Exactly what I would expect to hear from sereda or one of his shills when an ugly truth they have no defense against is presented.

So, what is YOUR agenda, coward?
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Yes, it really takes a special kind of courage to pick out a dorky avatar and name for yourself.

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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Evasion noted, coward.

I ask again, what is YOUR agenda?
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.

What does your opinion regarding Sereda or Lazar have to do with the testimony of Boyd Bushman? If Boyd Says Lazar is legit, Why is what you have to say more meaningfull than what Boyd has to say.

I think I will believe what Boyd has to say on the subject before a listen to what your opinions are in the matter.

Unless you can tell me why your opinion is more credible than Boyd Bushman's?


All you have to indicate this Bushman said what he said, or even if he exists at all is Sereda's unsupported claim.

Dou you KNOW, from personal experience, that he said what it is claimed he said?

Do you KNOW, from personal experience, that he has the credentials Sereda claims he has?

Are you aware that the vast bulk of reputable UFO researchers reject Lazar's educational claims?

All you have is the unsupported claim from someone with a large financial interest in the claims made by Bushman, and has provided NO primary source material at all?

Understand I am NOT saying Serda's claims are wrong, I do not know one way or the other, I AM saying that like most other crackpots with a financial agenda Sereda is fond of making claims that sound nice on the surface but are backed up by no verifiable data.

[link to www.v-j-enterprises.com]

[link to www.serve.com]

Read em and weep, bunkers!
 Quoting: The Commentator

This Bushman also thought that Gulf-Breeze was real LOL! Quote: Boyd Bushman has analyzed many of the photos, and believes that the Gulf-Breeze UFO could actually have been a next-generation manned aircraft. What a joke!
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Some folks will say or do anything for the almighty buck, Sereda shows he holds his potential customers in utter contempt by his making claims and not offering the slightest proof.

Typical money hungry bunker conman.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar passed several lie detector tests with flying colors.
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar has alot of info thats real, so much it kind of says he did know. i.e... The element he said existed and was used to fuel space craft. Then the recent (last 5 years) discovery of it by German Scientist.

Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.

[link to www.coasttocoastam.com]

Recap - UFO & Antigravity Disclosure - From Coast To Coast

UFO Researcher David Sereda discussed his recent work, videotaping the disclosure of 73-year old Boyd Bushman, a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance. He holds a number of patents and designed the Red Eye Missile (now the Stinger Missile), and infrared FLIR systems. Bushman also reverse engineered antigravity and UFO technology, Sereda reported.

There is a force related to the expansion of the universe that is actually stronger than gravity, and this could relate to antigravity propulsion, Bushman told him. He demonstrated phases that lead up to antigravity, including experiments in which magnets reduced the gravity of a rock. Bushman verified that Area 51 in Nevada was indeed the place where alien craft were tested-- but such testing moved to a facility in Utah after Area 51 became well known, he noted.

Bushman also revealed that he was friends with a Navy doctor that treated a pilot who shot down the Roswell craft in 1947. Though he didn't state the specific type of weapon used, Sereda speculated that it might have been Tesla's "death ray," confiscated by the government after Tesla's death in 1943. Bushman also showed Sereda a diagram for a nuclear-powered flying saucer (click on photo above), which he said was first flown out of Wright Patterson AFB in 1959.
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"Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda."


This coming from a very stupid agent that has been exposed here countless times. The twerp even admitted such until he was told to retract.
Duncan Kunz and The CommonHater ... what a team!


He tries to call everybody who recognize him agents or shills. Right out of the handbook ... right shill?

Good luck with the sleep!
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Re: Bob Lazar was telling the truth so says a Lockheed Martin Senior Research Scientist of 20 years, who held Top Secret clearance.
Lazar passed several lie detector tests with flying colors.
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So what? The polygraph, known as a lie detector. is so unreliable it is not allowed as evidence in ANY Court in the US.

And, sadly for lazar's claim, element 115 has a halflife of .087 seconds, and decays with a rather intense radioactive cloud.

Thus far FOUR atoms of the element have been produced.

[link to scitation.aip.org]

[link to physicsweb.org]

Lazar, like the bullshit propagated by nanzeta LIEDer and her two brain dead paid shills has been swept up and tossed out on a tidal wave of reality.

The brain dead bunkers seem to think everyone is as stupid, ignorant and gullible as they are and just can't come to grips with the fact they bought into a bogus cult.
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Evasion noted, coward.

I ask again, what is YOUR agenda?
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If your asking me, you've only asked once dork, I have no agenda, just laughing at you.
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Evasion noted, coward.

Typical bunker, afraid to face the cold hard light of reality. You might want to apply for a paid shill job with nanzeta LIEDer, her current paid shills are pretty pathetic.
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The CommonHater looks agitated today. He must be at the end of his day long shift here on GLP. Calling others shills to disguise himself is comical. What a brain-dead dufus!

This guy trolls here all day long and almost every single day and his posts speak for themselves ... need I say more?


Shoooo ... troll
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The CommonHater looks agitated today. He must be at the end of his day long shift here on GLP. Calling others shills to disguise himself is comical. What a brain-dead dufus!

This guy trolls here all day long and almost every single day and his posts speak for themselves ... need I say more?


Shoooo ... troll
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Nope - you covered it pretty well.
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Pretty pathetic when all you can get to promote a cult are paid trolls.

But, what can you expect from kids these days?

Wonder why these paid trolls can't support their employers with facts? Oh thats right, all they can do is try to insult their superiors, which is pretty much everything with both a functional spine and two functioning brain cells.
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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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I just tried to check out the US Patent Office's online system for patents by Boyd Bushman.

Why the fuck can I search just about every damn thing imaginable on a free web forum (i.e., HERE), but the Patent Office uses some special bullshit characters such as IN/ and blah$, etc.?

Anyway, here is some patents by Boyd Bushman:

Apparatus and method for amplifying a magnetic beam
[link to patft.uspto.gov]

A method for detecting objects while eliminating unwanted background
[link to patft.uspto.gov]

From [link to users.erols.com]
Boyd Bushman, who worked for Lockheed, Hughes and General Dynamics is one who has made many energy and propulsion breakthroughs in his career (he holds 26 patents). He invented a laser that dissociates air to produce propulsion (US Patent 5,542,247 and 5,680,135) and also has found a way to achieve flight using standing wave acoustics (Patent 5,511,044). Boyd was featured on the two-hour Discovery Channel special, “The Billion Dollar Secret” with journalist, Nick Cook, the author of The Hunt for Zero Point.

I don't know if the PERSON is Boyd Bushman, but the real Boyd Bushman has some serious shit behind his name.
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Pretty pathetic when all you can get to promote a cult are paid trolls.

But, what can you expect from kids these days?

Wonder why these paid trolls can't support their employers with facts? Oh thats right, all they can do is try to insult their superiors, which is pretty much everything with both a functional spine and two functioning brain cells.
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hey you've got a point there!


right above the big shiny penis on your chest.
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You pay close attention to a penis. don't you. zippy?
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Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.
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really ?? what about John Lear
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Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.
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COMMENTATOR:
Is that your opinion, or do you have firm information to back up your statement?
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Lazar is as big a fraud and conman as sereda.
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Info on David Sereda. "who says that he met Christ 3 times face to face. You can read the Book, Face to Face with Jesus Christ by David Sereda. Very interesting and mind twisting. And he soundly believes it." This guy is looney tunes!
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