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Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?

 
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04/18/2007 04:29 AM
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Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
This isnt adding up...why take the time to scratch the serial numbers off?? He chained the doors shut after he got in so obviously he wasnt trying to get away somehow afterwards, plus he wasnt wearing any disguise or anything so obviously everyone would know it was him anyways if he did get away. He even has the gun receipts in his backpack.... what the fucks the point of scratching off the serial numbers?
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
home-skillet's brain was so electrotraumashockafied by that point he thought he was playin a scratch-n-win game at Circle-K.
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04/18/2007 05:18 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
Because he originally planned only the two murders in the dorm.....
Conspiracies are based on the assumption that someone knows what their doing.
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04/18/2007 05:22 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
Because he originally planned only the two murders in the dorm.....
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Are you being sarcastic?

Edit: Cause that would elicit a totally different response from me than if you're serious.
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04/18/2007 05:39 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
I'm wondering if its the same guns

I saw on a foresnics show on discovery a few yrs back how they can retrieve a serial # thats been filed off
they clean it up w/ a type of acid, put another compound on that raises the #'s and then are able to view them through another process

they said what makes this possible is that even after filing the impressions of the # are still there in the stamped metal

maybe they were filed because they are different then the ones purchased, as ballistics has yet to be done and they are only going by the receipt

also, how did he disfigure his face so much w/ just one 9mm bullet ?
a shotgun , would do it, even a .45

the more I read the more inclined I am that he was a patsy
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
duh....the implant exploded. just kidding, I don't know. it depends on what tip the 9mm rounds had. Copper? Lead? Hollow? Flat? Talon?
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
oh and also the angle of the gun in relation to the face. like under the chin pointed up is gonna wreck your grill, nose, eyes. entry and exit locations, all that stuff.
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
oh and also the angle of the gun in relation to the face. like under the chin pointed up is gonna wreck your grill, nose, eyes. entry and exit locations, all that.
 Quoting: SHOkNOVA



I'm aware of that, but on the news it said he saved the last bullet for himself,
now if you put the gun under your chin, if it poited to forward towards your face, you risk, not dying, just disfigurement
you would think his concern would be to make sure he was dead and center the gun more to make sure it hit his brain, not just take off his face
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
ok I got ya. I'd say side of head above ear towards other ear. that would prevent the face erase I assume. unless a dude has really bad luck or sneezes. never contemplated such things though. yeah, who'd go the chin route? that reeks of one last "twist of the knife". like...affects his family and stuff....you know, hard to have an open casket with less than a face.
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
oh and also the angle of the gun in relation to the face. like under the chin pointed up is gonna wreck your grill, nose, eyes. entry and exit locations, all that stuff.
 Quoting: SHOkNOVA


An entry wound will appear as a tiny hole, it's the exit wound that is large. It does depend on the angle it was fired at. I've heard of suicides where say a large portion left of the nose including eye socket, cheek, part of the forehead were blown out so the person is missing half a face pretty much. I wonder if they'll publically release photos of this guy so we can confirm exactly how disfigured they claim he was.
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04/18/2007 06:24 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
right with exit destruction based on the bullet specifics mentioned which then affects if bullet tumbles, splinters, fragments, mushrooms etc after entry. and also factor in which organs and/or bones are struck.
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04/18/2007 06:56 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
Very likely he didn't even plan the 2 murders, just his girlfriend, when the right time came. Of course, the right time didn't come, he snapped early when the supervisor interfered. His plans were ruined, he was never going to get away with it now. He had nothing to lose.
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04/18/2007 05:58 PM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
he didnt have a girlfriend
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04/18/2007 06:52 PM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
None of you have yet answered convincingly the OP's question. You would only scratch off the serial numbers if you intended to escape and did not want the gun traced so that the police could identify you. The fact that Cho did this surely indicates that he never intended to kill himself. Either he changed his mind or something is not right here.
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04/18/2007 07:34 PM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
oh...ya'll are assuming he was under complete control of all his decisions that day. right?
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
it doesn't add up does it?
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04/18/2007 08:09 PM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
who would know except Cho?? watch his video. it's like asking why some dog eats shit.












hint. he was fucking nuts. ever known anyone totally delusional??
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
if you believe a wet soggy brain; everything makes sense, whole thing planned, more coming.

if you believe dude had a bad day and went ultra berzerk, nothing adds up, maybe you'll figure out the next one.

things go downhill from here. period.
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04/18/2007 08:19 PM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
hint. he was fucking nuts. ever known anyone totally delusional??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 222915

gotta shatter a mind before you can control it. this is the old low-tech shit people. start making some leaps of faith and understand what can be done these days.
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
Very likely he didn't even plan the 2 murders, just his girlfriend, when the right time came. Of course, the right time didn't come, he snapped early when the supervisor interfered. His plans were ruined, he was never going to get away with it now. He had nothing to lose.
 Quoting: beezle

^agree
supervisor=RA(resident advisor)

What was the post mark on the NBC package? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it mailed 15 minutes before phase 2 of the rampage? Hmmmm, if he had prepared the package ahead of time I don't think it would have took him 1hr 45mins to mail it before continuing his spree... And if he had planned on mailing this package don't you think he would have done it before he started killing?
Conspiracies are based on the assumption that someone knows what their doing.
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04/21/2007 04:21 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?

Why did he carry receipt?

police found receipt from his back pak.
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04/21/2007 04:59 AM
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
the whole scenario is so surreal
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
who would know except Cho?? watch his video. it's like asking why some dog eats shit.












hint. he was fucking nuts. ever known anyone totally delusional??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 222915


Even tottally delusional people adhere to some logic,plan or conviction.
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Re: Why scratch off the gun serial numbers?
Do you recall the type of acid used, and what kind of metal the bullet was made with? I'm drawing a comic book that includes forensics that I want to be as close to realistic as possible.

Thanks!

I'm wondering if its the same guns

I saw on a foresnics show on discovery a few yrs back how they can retrieve a serial # thats been filed off
they clean it up w/ a type of acid, put another compound on that raises the #'s and then are able to view them through another process

they said what makes this possible is that even after filing the impressions of the # are still there in the stamped metal

maybe they were filed because they are different then the ones purchased, as ballistics has yet to be done and they are only going by the receipt

also, how did he disfigure his face so much w/ just one 9mm bullet ?
a shotgun , would do it, even a .45

the more I read the more inclined I am that he was a patsy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 221860





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