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Ismail Ax and the North Korean President
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503
4/18/2007 1:22 PM
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Virginia Tech spree killer Seung Hui Cho, age 23, was found with a peculiar name written on his arm: Ismail Ax.
As Cho may have worked very hard to erase a good deal of his identity, the web-searching frenzy sparked by that mysterious name and Cho’s other known writings has so far been fruitless.
Still, if you slog through all the hits from Google’s Blog Search on “Ismail Ax,” you eventually reach this result:
Americans Kidnap South Korean Boy 197112 Apr 2007 by war
… young boy went missing in 1971, the people searched for the boy by word of mouth; the Asian Intelligence Agency (AIA) put a stop on all media and threatened to kill anyone who continued to pursue the issue of the missing boy. ismail Ax.
The North Korean President - [link to presidentryan.blogspot.com]
The blog, presidentryan.blogspot.com, is no longer online, is not in the Wayback Machine, and I could find no hits in Google’s cache.
I decided to take my search to Technorati:
The North Korean President.
On the off-chance the information is one day deleted from Technorati, I also made a screen cap of the results. You can click on the thumbnail on the left to see the image.
Google’s blog search and Technorati captured results from this blog at different times. Here is the Technorati snippet from the entry first found in Google Blogsearch hits:
Americans Kidnap South Korean Boy 1982
The North Korean President · 5 days ago · No blogs link here yetThe Americans controlled everything in South Korea, and when a young boy went missing in 1982, the people searched for the boy by word of mouth; the Asian Intelligence Agency (AIA) put a stop on all media and threatened to kill anyone who continued to pursue the issue of the missing boy…
It appears that on April 12, “war” posted that Americans had kidnapped a South Korean boy in ‘71. War apparently ended the entry with the tantalizing non-sequitur of a name, Ismail Ax — a name that would not be known to the public until April 17, after it was connected to the worst shooting spree in American history. Then 5 days ago, according to Technorati (that would have been April 13), the entry was edited, 1971 changed to 1982, and the name “Ismail Ax” deleted.
[link to crimeblog.us] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 1:26 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
I did another search using blogsearch.google.com, this time of the URL for the blogspot blog.
Again the results were chilling, and slightly different from Technorati (click the thumbnail if you are reading this after the search results have either changed or vanished). The entry titled “Cho Seung Hui AIA Agent” contained text in Google’s result. A single sentence:
Cho Seung Hui AIA Agent
It’s election time.
The North Korean President |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4776
4/18/2007 1:27 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
I don't get it. How would the boy kidnapped in 1971 have a connection to Cho? Can't be his father, as that would make him only 36 years old. Can't be Cho. Who, then? |
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SquirrelMonkey
User ID: 204901
4/18/2007 1:27 PM
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Is this for real? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4776
4/18/2007 1:28 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
btw - this should be pinned. |
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SquirrelMonkey
User ID: 204901
4/18/2007 1:30 PM
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I don't get it. How would the boy kidnapped in 1971 have a connection to Cho? Can't be his father, as that would make him only 36 years old. Can't be Cho. Who, then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4776
He could be passing as younger. Remember the child molester who was passing as a 12-year-old?
The cops did say they were having trouble finding info on the killer. I thought-- how hard could it be to find info on your average 23 year old? Unless the identity was a fake from the start.
Cops are also saying they can't conclusively link the first shooting to the mass shooting. Very weird. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 1:34 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 190
4/18/2007 1:35 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 1:38 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
If he was in the US since the age of 3, certainly more people know him? Where is his family? How did he get here?
etc.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 224872
4/18/2007 1:41 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
Please no one take this racially offensive, but it os very hard to determine Asian people's age just by looking at a photo.
Now we know why the "kid" always wore sunglasses, a low cap, and talked ina whisper...so claims his professor. This also explains why the date was was changed from '71 to '82...in order to fit the fake description of the supposed 23 year old shooter.
The question is WHO changed the date not why; and is Cho really Ismail Ax. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 1:43 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
Yet, it has come to my attention that a MySpace blog entry timestamped BEFORE the shootings was written by an unknown user.
Here is the Profile
The text of the blog post timestamped at 6:19am:
Monday, April 16, 2007
Time To Blow It All
Current mood: determined
Hopefully my devised plan will work for my fellow comrade. People view this world from an optimistic prospective. This is clearly not the case… Hopefully through the events which will unfold today, people will view this world from the cynical point of view as we do.
This world has been failing for a long time, and it’s not long before the world will fall upon itself. We are just here to give the world an extra nudge along it’s destructive journey.
I suspect, I’ll be trialed as an accomplice as I hope. In this glory of fame, I’ll be able to argue my point of view, and share it with others. And you’ll listen to me, due to I’m in the spotlight, and you’ll have to. You’ll be wondering, what encouraged me, to create a scheme for my friend to murder so many… what encouraged me to manipulate him to cause such mass damage? I’ve already said…
Hopefully my friend will succeed… if not, I’ll have to choose another.
6:19 AM - 63 Comments - 8 Kudos - Add Comment
Unless he is a genius, there isn’t a way to modify timestamps on MySpace accounts, interestingly enough he was “Online” as I was writing this.
[link to ryannorthcott.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 224872
4/18/2007 3:13 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
Now there has been another thread started about a YouTube video tagged : 9/11 September Tribute Benny Hill Death Ismail Ax.
I'm bumping this until it gets pinned. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 111154
4/18/2007 4:24 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
bump for more info |
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Just A Thought
User ID: 93768
4/18/2007 4:41 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
Yet, it has come to my attention that a MySpace blog entry timestamped BEFORE the shootings was written by an unknown user.
Here is the Profile
The text of the blog post timestamped at 6:19am:
Monday, April 16, 2007
Time To Blow It All
Current mood: determined
Hopefully my devised plan will work for my fellow comrade. People view this world from an optimistic prospective. This is clearly not the case… Hopefully through the events which will unfold today, people will view this world from the cynical point of view as we do.
This world has been failing for a long time, and it’s not long before the world will fall upon itself. We are just here to give the world an extra nudge along it’s destructive journey.
I suspect, I’ll be trialed as an accomplice as I hope. In this glory of fame, I’ll be able to argue my point of view, and share it with others. And you’ll listen to me, due to I’m in the spotlight, and you’ll have to. You’ll be wondering, what encouraged me, to create a scheme for my friend to murder so many… what encouraged me to manipulate him to cause such mass damage? I’ve already said…
Hopefully my friend will succeed… if not, I’ll have to choose another.
6:19 AM - 63 Comments - 8 Kudos - Add Comment
Unless he is a genius, there isn’t a way to modify timestamps on MySpace accounts, interestingly enough he was “Online” as I was writing this.
[ link to ryannorthcott.com]
That is no longer a valid account. Either it has been canceled or deleted. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
4/18/2007 5:33 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
<<the entry was edited, 1971 changed to 1982, and the name “Ismail Ax” deleted.>>
1952-1971 = 11
Damn, there's that 11 again. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 214869
4/18/2007 5:35 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
It was Cho's own blog. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
4/18/2007 5:39 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
<<the entry was edited, 1971 changed to 1982, and the name “Ismail Ax” deleted.>>
1952-1971 = 11
Damn, there's that 11 again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 173374
Dah, I mean 1982-1971 = 11. My Bad. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 164491
4/18/2007 5:40 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
<<the entry was edited, 1971 changed to 1982, and the name “Ismail Ax” deleted.>>
1952-1971 = 11
Damn, there's that 11 again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 173374
11????
Higher math here folks... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
4/18/2007 5:54 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
<<the entry was edited, 1971 changed to 1982, and the name “Ismail Ax” deleted.>>
1952-1971 = 11
Damn, there's that 11 again.
11????
Higher math here folks... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 164491
It was a typo. argh. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 8:28 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 8:30 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
His older sister, Sun-Kyung, graduated from Princeton University in 2004. A source, who asked to be identified as a senior Administration official, said she works for McNeil Technologies, a firm contracted by the State Department to manage reconstruction efforts in Iraq. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160503 (OP)
4/18/2007 8:34 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
The McNeil Technologies Services page lists the following categories: Language Services, Information Management Services, Program Support Services, Security Services, Intelligence Services.
I clicked on Intelligence Services first.
Intelligence Services -> Overview
McNeil''s Intelligence and Language Center (ILC) provides unmatched expertise in the areas of Intelligence and Language Services. The combination of Intelligence and Language guarantees our clients mission success.
Our services and capabilities include:
* Intelligence Architecture Operations in support of the US Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC).
* Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) which supports the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and other government agencies, and
* HUMINT (Human Intel) operations in support of DIA, or with federal counter Intel outsourcing effort. Our
* Linguist operations, with linguists deployed in various theaters of operations,
* Translation operations which include document and website translation,
* Testing, Training and Research of language and cultural awareness.
Under Intelligence Services -> Key Solutions, we see:
HUMINT Operations:
Classified CONUS and OCONUS support by seasoned Intel professionals.
That means support for intelligence operations inside and outside of the continental United States.
Then we have:
Security Services -> Overview
The Security Center at McNeil Technologies is a dynamic and growing Center providing full spectrum security services.
* It is one of only three competitively-selected providers, and the only Washington-based provider of airport passenger/baggage screening services under Transportation Security Administration's Screener Partnership Program. McNeil provides service at Greater Rochester International Airport.
* Physical Security which includes Access control, escorts, and Guard services, Electronic systems monitoring, as well as classified mailroom and package inspection.
* Personnel and Logistics Support is provided by MILPO operations
* Program Security consists of arms control and nonproliferation support, treaty vulnerability assessments, and support of Balanced Survivability Assessments
* McNeil Security Inc. – For more information about the McNeil Security subsidiary go to the website at www.mcneilsecurity.com. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
4/18/2007 8:56 PM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
One wonders if his rant is against his sister.
The intelligence connections of this sister would be a "guilt by association" angle, a typical propaganda approach. You and smear anyone by guilt by association if you have an audience that will let you lead them that way.
The sister is not the brother anymore that the son is the father, or the daughter is the mother. |
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Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2007 1:28 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 224872
4/19/2007 2:45 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
And somehow this thread STILL isn't pinned. Makes one wonder...;) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 225357
4/19/2007 2:58 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2007 3:12 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2007 3:21 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
b |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 225366
4/19/2007 3:28 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
BUMP
People need to read this thread. |
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Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2007 3:34 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2007 3:35 AM | | Re: Ismail Ax and the North Korean President | Quote |
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