So It Begins - Kucinich Seeks To Ban Hand Guns In America - Congressman drafting legislation to make owning a hand gun illegal

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They are getting ready to take our guns.

Are you all just going to sit there and let it happen?

What are you going to do when they come to take the food and water you have stored up for survival?

What are you going to do when CPS comes for your kids and starts force drugging them?

What are you going to do when they come to put that chip in your hand?

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They are getting ready to take our guns.

Are you all just going to sit there and let it happen?

What are you going to do when they come to take the food and water you have stored up for survival?

What are you going to do when CPS comes for your kids and starts force drugging them?

What are you going to do when they come to put that chip in your hand?

Get the strength that you will need for what lies ahead:

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This is so typical. They allow violent movies, video games and songs etc to contaminate society, and when the fruit of these things comes, they then move to ban the guns, not the education/entertainment industries brainwashing the sheople. Guns don't kill people, the sheople who point them do, but they would rather target the practical and necessary for defense guns, and leave the mass brainwashing promoting violence industries intact.

"I think I'm seeing a pattern here. The idea is to make the Democrats look so bad that we'll vote back in the Republican arsholes."

>>What a pile of claptrap!

Face facts, this bullshit is STANDARD behavior from the American political left.... STANDARD BEHAVIOR. You knew what you were getting when you voted them into office.

You can hate the evil republicans all you want... they are NOT the ones who will put you into camps after taking your guns and your freedom.

That will be done by your 'precious' democrats.


Actually, I think it's more of tag team type thing.

The Democrats get their turn, and pass one bunch of police state "laws", so the voters get rid of them, and replace the wit Republicans, that pass ANOTHER pile of police state laws.

So the voters get rid of THEM, and the Democrats go to it.

Repeat, over and over, until we're thoroughly cooked.

THEY'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM, YOU IDIOT!

First they came for the smokers, I did not smoke so I did nothing.
Then they came for the gun owners, I did not own a gun so I did nothing.
Then they came for me and there was no one to help.

Since all I have noticed lately with the anti-gun and the pro-gun camps, how about a trial run, agreed on by all sides involved?

My concept:

All the parties involved work on a 1 year idea that they could gain community support.

Step 1:
Create a system that is no questions asked for current LEGAL gun owners to take their guns to a specified location such as a local military base (except law enforcement). Once they have taken their guns there, each and every firearm, mag, clip, accessory and each and every bullet is logged and tagged for storage. This is on the condition that after 1 year, all LEGAL gun owners will get their items back, 100% no questions asked and no penalties etc.

Step 2:
Wait over the course of the year and monitor and record violent crimes involving handguns. Compare all data gathered with past trends and actually see if taking the LEGAL guns away from the honest citizen actually LOWERS the violent gun crime rate across the board.

Step 3:
Depending on data, if the crime rate was in FACT LOWERED then perhaps modify certain laws to deal with it. If the crime rate INCREASE then perhaps the politicians need to STFU and re-evaluate their performance and IQ levels and the citizens need to re-evaluate how and who we elect to represent us.

The thing about all this pro and anti gun crap, is both sides look at separate data gathered, there has not been a single test to gather data set to support each side at the same time. All states are different, all people are different and all local political/economic/cultural ideas and ways are different. Citing a statistic from the state of Texas vs. the state of Ohio is like trying to herd cats, both states have enough differences in the local people that the data set gets skewed due to that. This is how it happens when sampling water from a lake in Ohio vs a lake in Kansas, you are going to find vastly different "details" between the 2, as it is said "The devil is in the details."

An actual litmus test of the concept would be a better way to go about it. Why rush to ban guns 100% without gathering up all the proper data and why rush to allow us all to carry at the same time? If this test is performed in the right way, no questions asked and it doesn't become a he said/she said kind of thing, it may actually turn out to be the end all/be all in the issue.

I would actually participate in a test like this as long as the conditions are right for it and after a year I get my stuff back no questions asked and no fees involved.

I do not know about any one else, but I see both sides to the issue and it is difficult to make a 100% judgment on gray/cloudy/skewed/biased data.

It was just a matter of time. V-Tech was the anti-gun lobby's "new Pearl Harbor."

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Gun Control - Just The FACTS From Ken Fairchild
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*Americans use firearms to defend themselves from criminals about 760,000 times a year. This figure is the lowest among a group of 15 nationwide polls done by organizations including Gallup and the Los Angeles Times. (7)

*Approximately 11% of gun owners and 13% of handgun owners have used their firearms for protection from criminals. (3)

* When citizens use guns for protection from criminals, the criminal is wounded in about 1 out of every 100 instances, and the criminal is killed in about 1 out of every 1000 instances. (3)

* Washington D.C. enacted a virtual ban on handguns in 1976. Between 1976 and 1991, Washington D.C.'s homicide rate rose 200%, while the U.S. rate rose 12%. (1)

relax folks...this is just a knee jerk reaction from the fundies... it happens every time (once a decade) some nut job goes wild...and never amounts to anything...

our leaders hunt and own guns...and are not about to give them up...not even bad shot chenny...or goat roper Dub.

time for a 3rd political party

Department of Peace and Nonviolence.
Is it part of Ministry of Love?