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Congressional Leaders Moving To Pass Gun Control Without A Vote!

 
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"Another gun rights group, the Gun Owners of America, is adamantly opposed to the [McCarthy-Dingell] legislation. It said the measure would allow the government to trample privacy rights by compiling reams of personal information and potentially bar mentally stable people from buying guns." -- Associated Press, April 24, 2007


Thursday, April 26, 2007

This is going to be a knock-down, drag-out fight. GOA continues to stand alone in the trenches, defending the rights of gun owners around the country. It's not going to be easy.

Gun control supporters want to pass gun control within the next couple of weeks. And that's why, even if you took action earlier this week, you need to do so once again.

All the gun haters (who have been keeping silent for a while) are now coming out of the closet and into the open. Take the notoriously anti-gun senator from New York -- Chuck Schumer. He has been very, very excited this week. Recent events have given him a platform, and the excuse, to push legislation that he had sponsored years ago -- legislation that never got through Congress.

You see, Senator Chuck Schumer has been, in past years, the Senate sponsor of the McCarthy bill (HR 297). And the recent murders at Virginia Tech have given Senator Schumer the pretext he has been looking for. Appearing on the Bill O'Reilly show earlier this week, Schumer did his best to make a reasonable-sounding pitch for more gun control.

He told O'Reilly on Monday that while he and Rep. McCarthy had previously worked together on this legislation, he now wants Congress to take up HR 297 quickly. "The Brady Law is a reasonable limitation," Schumer said. "Some might disagree with me, but I think certain kinds of licensing and registration is a reasonable limitation. We do it for cars."

Get the picture? First, he wants the Brady Law strengthened with the McCarthy-Dingell-Schumer legislation. Then it's off to pass more gun control -- treating guns like cars, where all gun owners are licensed and where bureaucrats will have a wonderful confiscation list.

In the O'Reilly interview, Schumer showed his hand when he revealed the strategy for this bill. Because it could become such a hot potato -- thanks to your efforts -- Senator Schumer is pushing to get this bill passed by Unanimous Consent in the Senate, which basically means that the bill would get passed WITHOUT A VOTE.

This is a perfect way to pass gun control without anyone getting blamed... or so they think. We need to tell every Senator that if this bill passes without a vote, then we hold ALL OF THEM responsible. (Be looking for a future GOA alert aimed at your Senators.)


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this is not good news people , this is very very serious, I was talking to my gun dealer a month ago and he said this was going to happen, I did not believe him. All semi automatic weapons will be banned, with an amnesty period to register them for future confiscation, if not immediate
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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Its just not fair
the crooks will end up having all the guns, and shooting all the good folk, we are fucked !!!!
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i will be gone all day, i seriously hope this thread stays alive so people can see what the bastards are up to..

god this is depressing news
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funny, i just pm'd you saying how serious it is! lmao

i hope you are right!
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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It was tried in California in the late 80's. Didn't fly then, won't fly now.

I agree with Postman's view, but to some degree I agree with you Malu, this is a serious temperature check.
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Dr. (?) P-Man. You are ALWAYS misinformed and doubt aany info NOT posted by YOU !

As Einstein said, " The difference between genius and stupidity, is the genius HAS LIMITS. "

Hope you can figure it out, as it would be hard to put in cartoon, picture form !
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Wow, they're edging ever-closer to outright confiscation. When is it "go time"?

I hope Dr. P is right.
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Fortunately, most of the Repukes at least know they will be drummed out of office if they let this happen.

Then again, I almost wish they would try to confiscate weapons, just to get things rolling.
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Then again, I almost wish they would try to confiscate weapons, just to get things rolling.
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You are a fool to want that.
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Its about time you lunatics were stripped of firearms.



Lets hope its goes all the way to the top and removes guns from your military also.



It's about time you all grew up.
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Its about time you lunatics were stripped of firearms.



Lets hope its goes all the way to the top and removes guns from your military also.



It's about time you all grew up.
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Only children and politicians fear inanimate objects.
why it is?
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I sometimes wonder, with all the hate for the U.S. in the rest of the world, if the fact that we have a heavily armed citizenry is a deterrent to military action against us in the homeland?

Not only would the enemy have to defeat our military, but they would have swarms of "insurgents" to reckon with in the aftermath.

Would the confiscation of all civilian weapons hasten a war against us within our borders?
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ACTION: Gun Owners of America is the only national pro-gun organization opposing the McCarthy bill, so it is imperative that you contact your representative immediately. Please take action today and spread the word about H.R. 297! We need all the help we can get.

You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center to send your Representative a pre-written e-mail message. And, you can call your Representative toll-free at 1-877-762-8762.

---- Pre-written letter to your Representative ----
Dear Representative: Gun Owners of America has told me that anti-gun Rep. Carolyn McCarthy is trying to expand the Brady Law via H.R. 297. Well, on behalf of those millions of Americans who:

* have had their gun purchases held up by the Brady background check system for no apparent reason;
* know of people who have been targets of stalkers or abusive husbands -- and were killed (or simply forced to live in fear) while some bureaucrat in West Virginia fumbled around with their lives;
* have tried to buy a gun when the NICS system was shut down completely -- thereby blocking gun purchases nationally;
* are just curious why the Brady Instant Check -- which was billed as "the gun control bill that would stop future calls for gun control" -- almost immediately became a stepping stone for gun control bills dealing with gun show background checks, private sale background checks, and more personal information for the NICS registration system;
* are wondering why the FBI brags about the number of sales blocked by the Brady check, but can produce no data showing that the Instant check system has any relation to crime reduction;
* are struck by the fact that the anti-gun Clinton administration tried to use the system -- without further legislation -- to impose onerous fees and to retain records forever; and
* are wondering why the folks responsible for Waco and Ruby Ridge should be put in charge of determining whether or not I can have a gun --
I would ask you to oppose H.R. 297, the anti-gun legislation sponsored by liberal Carolyn McCarthy. Thank you.

Sincerely,

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at the very least you'll now fully understand why 'conspiratards' believe that many 'gone postal' rampages are luvox-upped narco-hypnotic remote-controlled patsy-droids.........

and there will be more.
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at the very least you'll now fully understand why 'conspiratards' believe that many 'gone postal' rampages are luvox-upped narco-hypnotic remote-controlled patsy-droids.........

and there will be more.
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Most of 'em have memory spans of common gnats. they will never understand anything.
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Not once was anything like this tried when Republicans were in control. Now it will be up to the minority Republicans to stop this legislation.

The same thing with the draft.

But you morons continue to vote for the fuckers who are standing there with knives to stick in your backs.

If this happens and you voted for them, then you have nothing to complian about.

Fuck you.

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I seriously think it will pass this time.
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Only children and politicians fear inanimate objects.
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Yeah no doubt you're one of the loons who say 'it's not the gun that kills its the finger pulling the trigger'

Maybe the solution is to remove the animate objects. (YOU)

Why do you need guns anyhow?

Oh yeah its to 'protect' you from each other. A strategy that always ends in suffering.
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Only children and politicians fear inanimate objects.


Yeah no doubt you're one of the loons who say 'it's not the gun that kills its the finger pulling the trigger'

Maybe the solution is to remove the animate objects. (YOU)

Why do you need guns anyhow?

Oh yeah its to 'protect' you from each other. A strategy that always ends in suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 229072

Well, when is the last time a gun shot someone of it's own volition?

Mostly, I keep mine to protect me from power mad politicians
To prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
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Not once was anything like this tried when Republicans were in control. Now it will be up to the minority Republicans to stop this legislation.

The same thing with the draft.

But you morons continue to vote for the fuckers who are standing there with knives to stick in your backs.

If this happens and you voted for them, then you have nothing to complian about.

Fuck you.

flip
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Hey, dumbass, read this...
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Only children and politicians fear inanimate objects.


Yeah no doubt you're one of the loons who say 'it's not the gun that kills its the finger pulling the trigger'

Maybe the solution is to remove the animate objects. (YOU)

Why do you need guns anyhow?

Oh yeah its to 'protect' you from each other. A strategy that always ends in suffering.

Well, when is the last time a gun shot someone of it's own volition?

Mostly, I keep mine to protect me from power mad politicians
To prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
gunlaws
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Damn, ET, picture says it all.

This is especially bad if Hillary Rotten Clinton gets elected - watch for the UN to help with the collection! Kiss sovreignty goodbye!
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Only children and politicians fear inanimate objects.


Yeah no doubt you're one of the loons who say 'it's not the gun that kills its the finger pulling the trigger'

Maybe the solution is to remove the animate objects. (YOU)

Why do you need guns anyhow?

Oh yeah its to 'protect' you from each other. A strategy that always ends in suffering.

Well, when is the last time a gun shot someone of it's own volition?

Mostly, I keep mine to protect me from power mad politicians
To prevent this sort of thing from happening again.
:gunlaws:
 Quoting: Evil Twin


Well, I guess a gun has never gone off of it's own accord, unless it's one of those American made guns that go off all the time due to poor build quality :) Stick to the European H+K if you must.

I agree with your reasons for keeping a firearm, I fear you will need it sometime soon for those very reasons you have mentioned. Personally I have a gentleman called Guy Fawkes to refer to if the politicians here in Blighty get a little out of hand.

We can do without firearms, I sincerely wish you could afford the same pleasure.

Regards
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Australia's anti-gun legislation was passed within 2 weeks of the Port Arthur Massacre.

It was like they'd prepared it in advance or something....
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I sometimes wonder, with all the hate for the U.S. in the rest of the world, if the fact that we have a heavily armed citizenry is a deterrent to military action against us in the homeland?

Not only would the enemy have to defeat our military, but they would have swarms of "insurgents" to reckon with in the aftermath.

Would the confiscation of all civilian weapons hasten a war against us within our borders?
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Take the notoriously anti-gun senator from New York -- Chuck Schumer. He has been very, very excited this week.
...
You see, Senator Chuck Schumer has been, in past years, the Senate sponsor of the McCarthy bill (HR 297). ...
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Get the picture?
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Now you know who want to take from you your rights.

It is not Republicans.

Remember Clinton administration?

They came with same idea.
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Regarding gun control and the Brady Bill:

HRC: “We have to approach minorities with caution. We cannot appear to be picking on them or singling them out for punishment. I suggest we fist [sic] use records to confiscate all legally registered weapons from white citizens to show the inner city residents that the white population will be disarmed before any minorities are. Keep in mind that of the fifty-odd deaths in the Los Angeles riots, most were caused by Korean shop owners defending their property. These Koreans should merit special attention in the initial roundup.”


Hillary Clinton
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'Gun Control,' use TWO hands . . ! rocket
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Its about time you lunatics were stripped of firearms.



Lets hope its goes all the way to the top and removes guns from your military also.



It's about time you all grew up.
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Your response is interesting and I believe I can see your viewpoint. The U.S. government has been very irresponsible and it's citizens are becoming quite volatile in nature.

you do fail to realize one important issue.

If the U.S. is disarmed you will see Russia, China, North Korea, and most of ancient persia rushing to make their claim as they slice up Australia, U.S., and Europe into managable properties for their good pleasure.


if you cannot see this you are either naive or of low intelligence.

the U.N. charter requires that it's members disarm all of their citizens. The only ones that will ever comply with this will be those that have no desire to rule the world and those that won't relinquish their freedom.

If the U.S. gives up their weapons, tyranny will occur within 6 months.

Gun control WORKS...just ask Stalin, Mussilini, and Hitler.

they all required their citizens (IN THE NAME OF PEACE) to give up their arms about 6-18 months before imprisoning them.

ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING THIS? DO ANY OF YOU GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES UNDERSTAND THIS?
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Your response is interesting and I believe I can see your viewpoint. The U.S. government has been very irresponsible and it's citizens are becoming quite volatile in nature.
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The U.S. Government and the population have been irresponsible, just ask the rest of the World.

Cant you see this?

you do fail to realize one important issue.

If the U.S. is disarmed you will see Russia, China, North Korea, and most of ancient persia rushing to make their claim as they slice up Australia, U.S., and Europe into managable properties for their good pleasure.


if you cannot see this you are either naive or of low intelligence.
 Quoting: observe 28968


The only aggressor is the only Superpower in the World, the U.S.

Big responsibility requires a big ideal, what is yours?

Sadly you have been programmed with the ideal of 'The American Dream' - trample upon as many people as possible in your life to reach your goal.

Russia, China, North Korea, Australia, Europe and all of Ancient Persia will survive gladly without the USA, remember we are The Ancient, you are not.


ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING THIS? DO ANY OF YOU GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES UNDERSTAND THIS?
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