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Homos cant reproduce,so they have to indoctrinate to get more of them lmao
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There are no animal species that practice homosexuality.
There are some male animals that will go through the motions of mounting another subordinate male, to show its own dominance, but the actual act of intercourse does not take place.

Only humans practice homosexuality.
All the other animals know better.
Most humans know better.
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Sodomy has been stigmatized for century upon century, and in many cultures across the world and through time, mostly seeking to stigmatize relationships between members of the same sex. Almost invariably, when it is criminalized, those who criminalize it (or would do so) refer to it as the "crime against nature" or the "sin against nature." The presumption is that homosexual behavior is a perversion, and a uniquely human perversion, engaged in as the result of what is presumed to be a learned attraction to members of the same sex.

There's only one problem with that assumption: None of it is true.

J.B.S. Haldane may not have had homosexuality in mind when he uttered his famous quote about a queer universe, but it has proven to be far more prescient than he could ever have imagined. In the approximately 1,000 to 3,000 species whose behavior has been well researched and described in the literature, approximately 450 have been shown to have clear homosexual behaviors. As we'll learn in this essay, homosexuality is not at all exclusively a western, European cultural pattern as some Christian and Muslim fundamentalists and Afrocentrists (and even some African politicians) have long maintained. It's not even unique to humans. And any homosexual behavior you care to name - anal sex, same sex kissing, long-term pair bonding between members of the same sex, courtship rituals unique to homosexual couples, all these and many more are all commonly found in the animal kingdom.

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Well there General, it is normal in that a certain percentage of humans, like any other animal, are going to be homosexual.

So what's your problem?
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I am sure that there have always been gays, just like there have been all kinds of sexual deviants.

However, throughout history, the "formal" acceptance and stamp of approval of the gay lifestyle by society at large, is a sign of the imminent collapse of that society.

When a people become so liberal that they endorse gays as being healthy and good, the days of that people are about over.

It is happening before our eyes.
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You're right, Pac, but the collapse of Society is not necessarily something to be feared...the new creation can only come out of the ruins of the old order.

So it has always been, and will be again.

Prepare.
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Why has this purveyor of hate been unbanned?

Has he offered a larger amount of money to be allowed back?

Did we not have enough posts promoting hatred that we needed to bring back an expert in the field?

Are the moderators playing some sort of twisted joke on the rest of us?

He has jumped back in with exactly the same sort of bile and offal that he was posting before being banned?

What changed?

He is not a better person.

Is the site now corrupt enough to allow him in?

Disgusted in the choices made.



I take it you are gay?

laugh
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so what?
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Yes, being gay is as good as being straight. Who the fuck cares. Anything less than that is hate. Period.

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Why has this purveyor of hate been unbanned?

Has he offered a larger amount of money to be allowed back?

Did we not have enough posts promoting hatred that we needed to bring back an expert in the field?

Are the moderators playing some sort of twisted joke on the rest of us?

He has jumped back in with exactly the same sort of bile and offal that he was posting before being banned?

What changed?

He is not a better person.

Is the site now corrupt enough to allow him in?

Disgusted in the choices made.



I take it you are gay?

laugh

so what?
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It answers why you accused me of spreading hate and saying the site is corrupt.

Listen gay person. I don’t give a shit if you are gay. Just don’t try to make me say it is a good thing. I think it is sick and perverted. You can’t live with me feeling that way so you keep tossing your fucked up lifestyle in my face and try to indoctrinate my grand kids into your sick twisted perversion.

99% of the population believes what I believe but are too afraid of hurting your feelings.

You believe it too.

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Yes, being gay is as good as being straight. Who the fuck cares. Anything less than that is hate. Period.

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sit on it an spin grand ma gay cadet lmao
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Homos cant reproduce,so they have to indoctrinate to get more of them lmao
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Homos cant reproduce,so they have to indoctrinate to get more of them lmao

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no pun intended lol
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watch, let's replace the word gay with 'black'

I take it you are black?
1rof1

so, how is that funny?

Let's pretend it's the 50s or 60s....same bullshit agenda against those of us that are OH NO different...

Teachers insist: Being 'black' good
'Educators' promoting Blacks no matter what children learn at home

A nationally distributed training video produced by a "black" advocacy group – which claims it's been shown on more than 100 public television stations – advises teachers to promote being black as normal and healthy to children as young as kindergarten age, regardless of what values the child has been taught at home.

"We are asking kids to believe this [blackness] is right. Not as a matter of moral principle, but as a matter of, we're educating them and this is part of what we consider to be a healthy education," one unidentified teacher said during the videotaped meeting of educators preparing to teach – or as their critics charge, "brainwash" – their students.

That particular response was to a question from another teacher who wondered how to approach black advocacy when a student comes from a background of biblical teaching, that is, that being black `is a sin.

"I don't know what to do about this but, as a school are we saying that kids have to support this? I guess that's what it sounds like to me that we're saying. If a child comes from a background that says being black is not correct, are we telling that child that they're supposed to, this is what you are supposed to do?" asked the teacher.

The answer was a resounding yes.

The comments are just some of what is horrifying parents who now are seeing video clips of the "It's Elementary" video prepared for use in schools.

Brian Camenker, who heads the Mass Resistance organization, has publicized the videos, and told WND said people are flooding his office with calls, asking what they can do.

"They're physically sickened by watching that. People with kids are wondering is this what's going to happen to them in schools in America," Camenker told WND. "The reaction we've gotten has been overwhelming.

"It's one thing in the abstract to read about what's happening in the schools, it's another thing to actually see it," he said.

The videos are available for viewing on the Mass Resistance website.

The excerpts show actual footage of teachers indoctrinating children that being/being around a black is "healthy education."

As WND has reported, California lawmakers currently are considering a bill that would not only promote blacks, it would ban anything from public schools that could be perceived as "reflecting adversely" on the 'being black' lifestyle choice.

Could that target a statement of Christian belief, or a Bible verse? Sure, say those battling the issue.

Camenker said the videos originally were posted on Youtube, but were taken down suddenly to be replaced with some pro-blackness promotions. "It's some really nasty stuff. The blacks have put up things calling anybody who doesn't [endorse being black] bigots," he said.

Camenker said the 78-minute video was produced and distributed by Black activists and is "meant to be a training video for Black activist teachers across the country."

The video shows administrators telling teachers to talk "about black issues" and teachers showing students pictures of celebrity Blacks.

Students are grilled by teachers about how they would feel if someone told them they couldn't have two races of parents. "What do you mean by open-minded?" a teacher asks what appears to be about a 1st-grader.

"If you're not very open-minded, say there's a new vegetable, then you won't try it. If you are open-minded, then you would try it," the student responds.

Another teacher asks students to think about words that would "make a black person feel bad."

Another adult is quoted, "I don't think it's appropriate that values only be taught at home …"

Still another segment shows young children applauding wildly as a teacher publicly announces his blackness.

"Although 'It's Elementary' was made over a decade ago, it's still a major training film for black activists, is still being shown in schools across the country, and has become a standard feature at

black teachers' conferences," the Mass Resistance site says. "How much further has that agenda reached since then? How many more young children are being desensitized to Blackness in their young years by these sophisticated techniques. And more importantly, when are you going to get involved to do something about it?"

A LifeSiteNews report quoted Stephen Bennett, who runs Stephen Bennett Ministries as warning about the "brainwashing" shown in the video.

Bennett told LifeSiteNews he was horrified, and "had tears in my eyes" after watching. "It's so heartbreaking to see little kids brainwashed," he said.

The online company that still sells the video notes that it has been shown on more than 100 public television stations and "model's excellent teaching about family diversity, name-calling, stereotypes, community building and more."

"We make films that make change," said Women's Educational Media, the maker. "We ensure that our films are used to inspire meaningful social change."

It also has produced films promoting blacks as parents and the 2004 San Francisco debacle where thousands of opposite-race couples were given marriage licenses that later were declared invalid by the state Supreme Court.

The black activist strategy is stated plainly in the film's promotion. "Waiting to teach children to accept differences of all kinds until middle school or high school is too late; statistics show that by sixth, seventh and eight grades, harmful stereotypes already have begun to take hold
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Being black or Hispanic or handicapped isn’t the same as preferring to stick your dick in another man's ass or a goat and should not be giving "minority" status in hiring or any other benefit.

ITS A FUCKING CHOICE TO BE GAY AND PERVERTED.
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So some choose homosexuality-their choice


The problem I have is the teachers cannot teach reading, writing, and arithmetic. Our high school kids are falling short across the globe in math and sciences


Since that is what they were hired for what is the problem?

Do they not fail enough with critical skills, do we really want them sexualizing our children? What next, promotion of bestiality? Porn in the home room?

They need to focus on basics not trying to legislate morality or perversions-to me children need to go to their parents and not be instructed in sexual areas by incompetent teachers.

I have a relative that is gay/homosexual/lesbian and I figure that is her business-not for public consumption. If someone is a exhibitionist let them exhibit their 'wares' in a special club or swingers zone,NOT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Personally, I have homeschooled after I saw where the learning was going-they have their own agenda

I am an independent but it is over the hook-I saw a teacher stating that if a 5 yr old comes up to you and asks how do you get AIDS, the teacher would say, "through oral, anal, or vaginal sex." And just how are they going to explain that? Are they prepared for the lawsuits?

IMHO that is not education as much as it is exploitation and is illegal-it is called sexual abuse and personally with the gov regulating everyones bowel habits and ingesting habits-while their pedophiles like Mark Foley and many others run rampant-funny how they use the misdirection eh?


They have spent trillions learning how to herd cattle and sheep and they do not have 4 legs


Instead of worrying about the twig in my eye they had better get the log out of theirs-they are in no way a moral compass for my family and myself. In fact, many of the teachers are well indoctrinated and I would prefer they focus on what they were hired to do-seems more and more we are all expected to march in a happy parade and celebrate their choices-for 6 foot tall guys to wear feather boas and heels-if they want the freedom to promote their choice, then others should be allowed the same even if they want to laugh hysterically at that.

Time for more people to leave the cities and homeschool if you want your children to share in your family values-or turn it over to radicals who you DO NOT EVEN KNOW

I pulled my middle child out of school many years ago due to overhearing the teacher threatening the kids to be silent and letting the kids know that it did not matter what "your parents say or think, as they have no say-I am the teacher and what I say goes..." It was a kindergarten class going all day-perfect silence and control and utter despair.

Who the hell did she think she was? A real control freak and to dismiss parental authority and replace with the teachers is truly radical. It is evident why the children do not listen-as the teachers mock the parents in front of the children so the children acquiesce to their control methods.

Time to see the truth
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Being black or Hispanic or handicapped isn’t the same as preferring to stick your dick in another man's ass or a goat
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Hey hey HEY!

Goats don't swing that way, baby..

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Being black or Hispanic or handicapped isn’t the same as preferring to stick your dick in another man's ass or a goat


Hey hey HEY!

Goats don't swing that way, baby..

luvgoat
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Sorry Goat...Forgive me.

laugh
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My son, who is now 13, was taught this crap in a first grade public school. That is one of the many reasons he has been in a private school since second grade. I remember the one topic was; "Johnny has two Daddies.". You were allowed to "opt your child out" of such discussions; however, we just felt it was completely inappropriate. The other item that irked me was the use of the terms "penis and vagina" with 5 and 6 year olds. No, I am not a prude, but unless the Kindergarten teacher is conducting an anatomy lesson, I find it a little odd to randomly use these terms. We are in Virgina. I had a public school education and never heard this crap, and I believe I turned out OK. LoL.
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notice how the homophobes use key words like "promote" instead of "teach".

homosexuality is normal and healthy to homosexuals. just because the majority has believed and been taught an untruth for many many years doen't mean that the untruth has to continue to be believed and taught.

for 2000 years, the majority has believed and been taught that jesus was God and that the bible is the "word of God", but we now know that it's an untruth.
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notice how the homophobes use key words like "promote" instead of "teach".

homosexuality is normal and healthy to homosexuals. just because the majority has believed and been taught an untruth for many many years doen't mean that the untruth has to continue to be believed and taught.

for 2000 years, the majority has believed and been taught that jesus was God and that the bible is the "word of God", but we now know that it's an untruth.
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Its understandable you think its ok if you dont believe in a higher being. "If it feels good, do it." Why not screw chickens if it feels good?

Is there anything that is immoral to you?

Just stay the hell away from my grand kids with your fucked up life and twisted logic.
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My wife is a second grade teacher in Liberal California. She has not heard anything about this. Last year she had a child in her clas who had two mothers. The mothers tried again and again to get a chance to come into the class room to discuss their lifestyle. Never happened as teacher told the parents that they would have to go talk to the principal to get permission...
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Well, PAC is a healthy counterbalance to all the rest of us. At least he is sure of what he believes, and it is coherent.

Issue at hand: There are plenty of gay people in my school, and many of them are very intelligent, hard-working, even moral in their own way. However, each one of them also has some back history of being brought up strangely, or of having a childish and unbalanced relationship with his parents. One very common thing is that he hates his dad for some odd reason. I have never seen a well-raised person decide to become gay, and I do think that the TV shows, movies, music, advertisements, and now policies describing homosexuality as completely normal have a vested intent. I have heard theories of population reduction and indoctrination through the making of men gay, and of women bitches, but I have no evidence for that. This is unacceptable in any case.

But we're all going to die soon, so why bother? Let the Weimar Republic feast on its way to death.
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My wife is a second grade teacher in Liberal California. She has not heard anything about this. Last year she had a child in her clas who had two mothers. The mothers tried again and again to get a chance to come into the class room to discuss their lifestyle. Never happened as teacher told the parents that they would have to go talk to the principal to get permission...
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Thumbs up to the principal! If you're gay, you're gay - I have no objection, but "gay lifestyles" is not appropriate for the curriculum. It is no more acceptable than it would be for some parent to come to class to explain why he likes to be spanked during sex..
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You're right, Pac, but the collapse of Society is not necessarily something to be feared...the new creation can only come out of the ruins of the old order.

So it has always been, and will be again.

Prepare.
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Metamorphosis, and becomes the butterfly...
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Well there General, it is normal in that a certain percentage of humans, like any other animal, are going to be homosexual.

So what's your problem?


I am sure that there have always been gays, just like there have been all kinds of sexual deviants.

However, throughout history, the "formal" acceptance and stamp of approval of the gay lifestyle by society at large, is a sign of the imminent collapse of that society.

When a people become so liberal that they endorse gays as being healthy and good, the days of that people are about over.

It is happening before our eyes.
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Agreed...
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You're right, Pac, but the collapse of Society is not necessarily something to be feared...the new creation can only come out of the ruins of the old order.

So it has always been, and will be again.

Prepare.


Metamorphosis, and becomes the butterfly...
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More like decay, collapse....eggs........maggot...
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notice how the homophobes use key words like "promote" instead of "teach".

homosexuality is normal and healthy to homosexuals. just because the majority has believed and been taught an untruth for many many years doen't mean that the untruth has to continue to be believed and taught.

for 2000 years, the majority has believed and been taught that jesus was God and that the bible is the "word of God", but we now know that it's an untruth.


Its understandable you think its ok if you dont believe in a higher being. "If it feels good, do it." Why not screw chickens if it feels good?

Is there anything that is immoral to you?

Just stay the hell away from my grand kids with your fucked up life and twisted logic.
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so how does knowing that jesus is a sun-god and not believing the bible is the "word of God" equate to not believing in a "higher being"?

hatred and ignorance are immoral to me.

YOU have grand kids? i guess they are being taught the same hatred and ignorance that you have taught your children and is now being passed on to the next generation. i hope your own children are wiser than you and are keeping your grand-children away from you.
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Well there General, it is normal in that a certain percentage of humans, like any other animal, are going to be homosexual.

So what's your problem?


I am sure that there have always been gays, just like there have been all kinds of sexual deviants.

However, throughout history, the "formal" acceptance and stamp of approval of the gay lifestyle by society at large, is a sign of the imminent collapse of that society.

When a people become so liberal that they endorse gays as being healthy and good, the days of that people are about over.

It is happening before our eyes.
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Yeah, I see your point. Roman civilization only lasted for 1000 years. ??????

What a nutcase...
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Well, considering how much conflict exists between the husband wife hetero thing, is that such a bad idea?
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Well there General, it is normal in that a certain percentage of humans, like any other animal, are going to be homosexual.

So what's your problem?


I am sure that there have always been gays, just like there have been all kinds of sexual deviants.

However, throughout history, the "formal" acceptance and stamp of approval of the gay lifestyle by society at large, is a sign of the imminent collapse of that society.

When a people become so liberal that they endorse gays as being healthy and good, the days of that people are about over.

It is happening before our eyes.
 Quoting: PACNWguy



Could not say it better PACWguy.

Societies falling before our very eyes - we are now too soft and too tolerant to defend ourselves and our children and way of life - the falling of the society is close.





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