When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart | |
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sonOgod User ID: 77149354 Mexico 11/26/2018 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart Forgiveness - divine law only extends it to those who have made amends for their mistakes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74528363 virtue, virgin, vessel, venerated, vivid, valor, valiant victory, valid, veracious, veritable, viable, vigilant ............. verifiable ! Be awake aware alert fully conscious fully realized ... A little child inside: Innocent quiet observant alert aware awake conscious ... let nothing stand in the way. Instinctive, Intelligent, Intuitive The 3 eyes and Innocent ! ... The 4th ...i... God is Atheist, Satan is a Christian ! God is a word for unknown science, Gnosis/Wit refers to the understanding of mechanisms.There is no-one like god, Christ-like, or like anything only the original will suffice. bnbcrap ... silence states the obvious ! The truth is self-evident. All those with "i"s shall C. |
S.O.S. User ID: 76783009 United States 11/26/2018 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart So very true. And only if you have been forgiven through the blood of Yeshua and His work on the cross do you truly understand. Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
tcs User ID: 74516036 Canada 11/26/2018 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart We show that we are obedient to the Lord Jesus when we forgive others that have wronged us. Jesus said: "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." Jesus also said: "if you love me, keep my commandments" If we understand that people who do evil to us are under the influence of the evil one and are controlled by him to do his will, then we can forgive others easier because we realize: "we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Quotes in bold are copied from the KJV Bible) " Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord." ~ Jer. 17:5 "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" |
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DvynFemi9 User ID: 77152958 Mexico 11/26/2018 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart We show that we are obedient to the Lord Jesus when we forgive others that have wronged us. Quoting: tcs Im saddened by these remarks. OP are you still here ??? I know that LOVE is about loving it isnt about being obediant to a RULER. This only emphasizes that FEAR is the more powerful tool of control and that loving holds no value in peoples eyes. Beings don't LOVE because they FEAR or OBEY a ruler or rules. Forgiveness means to FORE-GIVE or to GIVE FIRST its an act of love and reciprocation is a natural response but not obligatory. DvynFemi9 |
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RiZE User ID: 76882714 Canada 11/27/2018 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart Indeed it is to free us. Being born again into the spirit remains difficult as we wrestle daily with our flesh. The cross is our to carry. We should remember the fleshly things we endure will pass away with this world and we will not endure these things forever. Stay strong and God Bless :) Last Edited by RiZE on 11/27/2018 07:24 PM Servant of The Most High And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. |
RiZE User ID: 76882714 Canada 11/27/2018 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart We show that we are obedient to the Lord Jesus when we forgive others that have wronged us. Quoting: tcs Im saddened by these remarks. OP are you still here ??? I know that LOVE is about loving it isnt about being obediant to a RULER. This only emphasizes that FEAR is the more powerful tool of control and that loving holds no value in peoples eyes. Beings don't LOVE because they FEAR or OBEY a ruler or rules. Forgiveness means to FORE-GIVE or to GIVE FIRST its an act of love and reciprocation is a natural response but not obligatory. You think of fear in human terms where we fear this person or that but fear can be healthy and keep us alive and safe. There is nothing wrong with fearing one who has the power to destroy. Many have been saved or come to faith through the realization that destruction comes through disobedience. How can someone be truly just if he just accepted everyone into his kingdom no matter what. No, God is just because he punishes those who deserve it and fogives those who ask him to. "all knowledge begins with the fear of God" There is nothing wrong with fearing one who can create or destroy. Servant of The Most High And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. |
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Mr_Smith User ID: 76946058 United States 11/27/2018 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart Forgiveness - divine law only extends it to those who have made amends for their mistakes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74528363 "If you have harmed someone and you apologize to them, that’s well and good, but you must also repair the damage; only then will you have paid your debt. Saying to someone you have injured, ‘I’m so sorry, forgive me…’ is not enough, and divine law will pursue you until you have put right what was wrong. You will say, ‘But what if the person I have harmed forgives me?’ No, the matter is not settled that easily, for the law is one thing, the person another. The person may have forgiven you, but the law does not; it pursues you until you have atoned. Of course, those who forgive do show nobleness and generosity; they escape the bitterness and torment that would have kept them in the lower regions of the astral plane. When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from the negative thoughts and feelings that tear us apart. But forgiveness does not settle the matter; forgiveness frees the victims, those who have been mistreated or wronged, but it does not free the guilty, the perpetrators. To free themselves, they must make amends." No, we forgive so we can administer justice fairly |
sonOgod User ID: 77204409 Mexico 12/15/2018 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart Forgiveness - divine law only extends it to those who have made amends for their mistakes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74528363 "If you have harmed someone and you apologize to them, that’s well and good, but you must also repair the damage; only then will you have paid your debt. Saying to someone you have injured, ‘I’m so sorry, forgive me…’ is not enough, and divine law will pursue you until you have put right what was wrong. You will say, ‘But what if the person I have harmed forgives me?’ No, the matter is not settled that easily, for the law is one thing, the person another. The person may have forgiven you, but the law does not; it pursues you until you have atoned. Of course, those who forgive do show nobleness and generosity; they escape the bitterness and torment that would have kept them in the lower regions of the astral plane. When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from the negative thoughts and feelings that tear us apart. But forgiveness does not settle the matter; forgiveness frees the victims, those who have been mistreated or wronged, but it does not free the guilty, the perpetrators. To free themselves, they must make amends." there is great wisdom in Switzerland virtue, virgin, vessel, venerated, vivid, valor, valiant victory, valid, veracious, veritable, viable, vigilant ............. verifiable ! Be awake aware alert fully conscious fully realized ... A little child inside: Innocent quiet observant alert aware awake conscious ... let nothing stand in the way. Instinctive, Intelligent, Intuitive The 3 eyes and Innocent ! ... The 4th ...i... God is Atheist, Satan is a Christian ! God is a word for unknown science, Gnosis/Wit refers to the understanding of mechanisms.There is no-one like god, Christ-like, or like anything only the original will suffice. bnbcrap ... silence states the obvious ! The truth is self-evident. All those with "i"s shall C. |
NSolace User ID: 62740910 United States 12/15/2018 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart Very true. It's difficult to do when anger and hatred get in the way, but it is better for the spirit that you should forgive your enemies and not hate them. Pray for them, that they may find the right path. I remember years ago, I picked up a Bible and I opened it. I went straight for Matthew 5:43. I was surprised I went straight to that passage. I understand why. It was a message. One that I haven't always followed and have been guilty of not adhering to. I am sorry for that. |
sonOgod User ID: 77214963 Mexico 12/19/2018 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart I know that LOVE is about loving it isn't about being obedient to a RULER or rules but comes freely like water from a spring. Saying love is about obeying god's law only emphasizes that FEAR is the more powerful tool of control and that loving holds less value/motivation in peoples eyes. Beings don't LOVE because they FEAR or OBEY a ruler or rules. Forgiveness means to FORE-GIVE or to GIVE FIRST its an act of love and reciprocation is a natural response but not obligatory. Greedy may see generosity as weakness and never reciprocate the hungry man who forgives the gluttonous hoarder has the great food, not obedience to a law but something higher virtue, virgin, vessel, venerated, vivid, valor, valiant victory, valid, veracious, veritable, viable, vigilant ............. verifiable ! Be awake aware alert fully conscious fully realized ... A little child inside: Innocent quiet observant alert aware awake conscious ... let nothing stand in the way. Instinctive, Intelligent, Intuitive The 3 eyes and Innocent ! ... The 4th ...i... God is Atheist, Satan is a Christian ! God is a word for unknown science, Gnosis/Wit refers to the understanding of mechanisms.There is no-one like god, Christ-like, or like anything only the original will suffice. bnbcrap ... silence states the obvious ! The truth is self-evident. All those with "i"s shall C. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart I know that LOVE is about loving it isn't about being obedient to a RULER or rules but comes freely like water from a spring. Quoting: sonOgod Saying love is about obeying god's law only emphasizes that FEAR is the more powerful tool of control and that loving holds less value/motivation in peoples eyes. Beings don't LOVE because they FEAR or OBEY a ruler or rules. Forgiveness means to FORE-GIVE or to GIVE FIRST its an act of love and reciprocation is a natural response but not obligatory. Greedy may see generosity as weakness and never reciprocate the hungry man who forgives the gluttonous hoarder has the great food, not obedience to a law but something higher Someone of my distant acquaintance was fond of quoting Blake: "the cut worm forgives the plow." |
sonOgod User ID: 77214963 Mexico 12/19/2018 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart I know that LOVE is about loving it isn't about being obedient to a RULER or rules but comes freely like water from a spring. Quoting: sonOgod Saying love is about obeying god's law only emphasizes that FEAR is the more powerful tool of control and that loving holds less value/motivation in peoples eyes. Beings don't LOVE because they FEAR or OBEY a ruler or rules. Forgiveness means to FORE-GIVE or to GIVE FIRST its an act of love and reciprocation is a natural response but not obligatory. Greedy may see generosity as weakness and never reciprocate the hungry man who forgives the gluttonous hoarder has the great food, not obedience to a law but something higher Someone of my distant acquaintance was fond of quoting Blake: "the cut worm forgives the plow." if you cut the tail off an earthworm, the head section can still continue to live just fine ... easier to forgive while still alive like the severer earthworm [link to www.sciencefocus.com (secure)] virtue, virgin, vessel, venerated, vivid, valor, valiant victory, valid, veracious, veritable, viable, vigilant ............. verifiable ! Be awake aware alert fully conscious fully realized ... A little child inside: Innocent quiet observant alert aware awake conscious ... let nothing stand in the way. Instinctive, Intelligent, Intuitive The 3 eyes and Innocent ! ... The 4th ...i... God is Atheist, Satan is a Christian ! God is a word for unknown science, Gnosis/Wit refers to the understanding of mechanisms.There is no-one like god, Christ-like, or like anything only the original will suffice. bnbcrap ... silence states the obvious ! The truth is self-evident. All those with "i"s shall C. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart I know that LOVE is about loving it isn't about being obedient to a RULER or rules but comes freely like water from a spring. Quoting: sonOgod Saying love is about obeying god's law only emphasizes that FEAR is the more powerful tool of control and that loving holds less value/motivation in peoples eyes. Beings don't LOVE because they FEAR or OBEY a ruler or rules. Forgiveness means to FORE-GIVE or to GIVE FIRST its an act of love and reciprocation is a natural response but not obligatory. Greedy may see generosity as weakness and never reciprocate the hungry man who forgives the gluttonous hoarder has the great food, not obedience to a law but something higher Someone of my distant acquaintance was fond of quoting Blake: "the cut worm forgives the plow." if you cut the tail off an earthworm, the head section can still continue to live just fine ... easier to forgive while still alive like the severer earthworm [link to www.sciencefocus.com (secure)] That's not what Blake meant, and you know it. Duplicitous. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 12/19/2018 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. I only can perceive hate as virtue if it's hate of enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. Oh yes...here it is: [link to www.firstthings.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. But keep making excuses for those who think as you do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 12/19/2018 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. Wow. If God has no enemies than our faith in Him is futile. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77095110 United States 12/19/2018 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. Oh yes...here it is: [link to www.firstthings.com (secure)] I am glad I am not Yew. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 12/19/2018 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. Oh yes...here it is: [link to www.firstthings.com (secure)] I am glad I am not Yew. :izracist: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. Wow. If God has no enemies than our faith in Him is futile. Well that depends...faith in Him to do what? Reinforce the pre-existing social order using the violence of the henchmen of those He has supposedly anointed to rule? I think that is practically a certainty. Curing juvenile cancer? "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 12/19/2018 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart You love God in the soul of your enemy and it makes you free from self humiliating and destructive hate. Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo Hate is a virtue, I heard from a Rabbi once. That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. What is power in your definition? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76585116 United States 12/19/2018 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. What is power in your definition? Authority combined with the ability to delegate the consequences of the exercise of that authority. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76702722 United States 12/19/2018 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart ... Quoting: Tech_Sci_Philo_No_Shilo That phrase I only can perceive as virtue if you hate enemies of your God, not your personal enemies. And that difference hinges on how much power you have, as hatred is a command from higher ups who claim such a relation with such a God. God has no enemies, as all fulfill His plan. Wow. If God has no enemies than our faith in Him is futile. Well that depends...faith in Him to do what? Reinforce the pre-existing social order using the violence of the henchmen of those He has supposedly anointed to rule? I think that is practically a certainty. Curing juvenile cancer? "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." The original post's title: "When Jesus asks us to forgive our enemies, it is so that we may free ourselves from negative thoughts & feelings that tear us apart" Faith in Him to transfigure our beings and Universe. Restore original integrity of spirit and body. |