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Protesters press for path to citizenship By PETER PRENGAMAN, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Angry over recent raids and frustrated with Congress, thousands of people protested across the country Tuesday to demand a path to citizenship for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.
From Phoenix to Detroit to Miami, thousands of people carried American flags in the streets.
Organizers say immigrants feel a sense of urgency to keep immigration reform from getting pushed to the back burner by the 2008 presidential elections.
"If we don't act, then both the Democratic and Republican parties can go back to their comfort zones and do nothing," said Angelica Salas, director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles. "They won't have the courage to resolve a major situation for millions of people."
In Chicago, thousands of demonstrators carried American flags, signs and placards, including one that read, "We may not have it all together, but together we can have it all."
Melissa Woo, a 22-year-old American citizen who immigrated from South Korea, carried a Korean flag over her shoulder as she criticized politicians for "buckling at the knees."
"Us immigrants aren't pieces of trash, we're human beings," she said. "To be treated as less than human is a travesty."
Thomas Rodriguez, of Aurora, stood in Union Park wearing a shirt that said: "We are hard workers. We're not criminals."
The 38-year-old has had no legal status since he came to the United States from Mexico in 1989 and is an employee at a Japanese restaurant in Chicago.
"Recent raids have worried me," he said. "We worry deportations are leaving too many young people without parents."
In southwest Detroit, hundreds of people wore red and white and carried American flags to a rally.
"Most of the undocumented people come here as a necessity of survival," said Rosendo Delgado, of Latinos United, one of the groups organizing the march. "For them, it's the only choice."
A mariachi band played in Phoenix as marchers walked from the fairgrounds toward the state Capitol.
"We want just reform," said Mayela Ruiz, another illegal immigrant. "I've been here 15 years. I've worked hard, paid my taxes. I've had no problems with the law and I'm afraid to leave my house. I want a law that would allow me to work and live in freedom but not like a slave."
A few dozen counter-protesters across the street from the Capitol got in a shouting match with some at the rally.
"I want to send them back," said Phoenix resident George Propheter, who held up a large handwritten sign that read "Hell No." "I've been in the city for 40 years. They've completely destroyed our city."
No rallies were planned in Atlanta, where 50,000 marched last year, because many immigrants were afraid of the raids and of a new state law set to take effect in July. The law requires verification that adults seeking non-emergency state-administered benefits are in the country legally, sanctions employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and requires police to check the immigration status of people they arrest.
"There's a lot of anxiety and fear in the immigrant community," said Jerry Gonzalez of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials.
In Oakland, Calif., about 2,000 people marched to City Hall.
"Nothing has happened since last year," said Gloria Ramos, 51, a social worker at a children's nonprofit who left her native Mexico for Oakland 32 years ago. "Things are getting worse for our people — more discrimination, less benefits."
In Los Angeles County, home to about 1 million illegal immigrants, by far the largest concentration in America, marches were set to include demands for a legalization program, a stop to the raids and an anti-Iraq war message. City and transportation officials were planning for as many as 500,000 people in downtown Los Angeles, believing it could be the largest in the city so far this year.
Los Angeles public school teacher David Cid said he came to support his students, many of whom are suffering because of recent raids that have impacted their families.
"They feel terrorized," he said.
Despite divisions over tactics and other issues, immigration groups and supporters said the diverse events will show the movement is stronger than ever.
"Just because the 12 million people who don't have legal residency don't attend a march doesn't mean they don't want it," said Eduardo "Piolin" Sotelo, a popular Spanish-language disc jockey. "I tell my listeners that no matter what they do, just don't stop doing something."
After last year's protests, reform legislation stalled in Congress and bipartisan proposals for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship have gotten more conservative.
This year, about 400 members of Asian groups from across the country are set to make a lobbying push with lawmakers in Washington.
Organizers said Tuesday's turnout will be lower than the 1 million who took to the streets last year. Stepped-up raids in recent months have left many immigrants afraid to speak out in public — a major change over rallies in 2006 when some illegal immigrants wore T-shirts saying "I'm illegal. So what?"
"These raids have torn apart families," said John Crockford, a member of the Central California Coalition for Immigrant Rights.
In Fresno, organizers planned a rally focusing on children whose parents had been deported. The San Joaquin Valley is home to thousands of seasonal workers who work illegally each year in the fields and construction industry.
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Associated Press writers Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles; Garance Burke in Fresno, Calif., Laura Wides-Munoz in Miami, Sophia Tareen in Chicago, Giovanna Dell'Orto in Atlanta and Amanda Lee Myers in Phoenix contributed to this report.
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 211548 (OP) 5/1/2007 6:35 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | We should hire them to protest for Irak war !!  |
| PasserBy User ID: 214734 5/1/2007 6:46 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | What should be done with all that video tape 'for security and are protection' that were in stalled in areas that were scheduled to be protested, is to take said tape and do what was planned and eluded to. The complete roundup over time with the facial verification software that was being 'tested' to detect known habitual border imfraction criminals, and deport them 1k miles south of the border.
The sooner the US rids itself of these welfare, social service, illegal criminals the better.
Note, the software that was installed that the cameras compare facial features to is a newer version that is similar in how police can scan hundreds of license tags and pinpoint specific vehicles that are invalid/expired registrations, wants/warrants etc.
Cheers! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230968 5/1/2007 6:48 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | I think they're a bunch of fucking hipocrits. They need to be pushing for better conditions in their own country instead of sneaking into another country and demanding they change their ways to meet their needs.
Even if protesting is a stone in the path of our rights, this is a different situation. Tell me 1 country in the world that allows people to cross the boarder and live their w/out fileing paperwork etc.
They are human though. SO if anything is done, it should be something along the lines of;
-If you're residing here illegaly, defined by the countries law, then allow them to test to become a citizen. (they can test millions of children and have those tests graded via computer in a month, same could be done in this situation for no more than it cost to test the kids)
-They are not allow "Back" support. Period.
-Pass a background check, if you are a child raper, murder, adult raper, too bad, your out. Period.
Problem is- if they are allowed to do this, then that set presidence to invite millions of more people from many different nations.
Answer to Prior.
America is the only country that allows people to reach this land and live here. The law that allows any cuban who touches foot on the soil to call it home.
Protesters press for path to citizenship By PETER PRENGAMAN, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Angry over recent raids and frustrated with Congress, thousands of people protested across the country Tuesday to demand a path to citizenship for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.
From Phoenix to Detroit to Miami, thousands of people carried American flags in the streets.
Organizers say immigrants feel a sense of urgency to keep immigration reform from getting pushed to the back burner by the 2008 presidential elections.
"If we don't act, then both the Democratic and Republican parties can go back to their comfort zones and do nothing," said Angelica Salas, director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles. "They won't have the courage to resolve a major situation for millions of people."
In Chicago, thousands of demonstrators carried American flags, signs and placards, including one that read, "We may not have it all together, but together we can have it all."
Melissa Woo, a 22-year-old American citizen who immigrated from South Korea, carried a Korean flag over her shoulder as she criticized politicians for "buckling at the knees."
"Us immigrants aren't pieces of trash, we're human beings," she said. "To be treated as less than human is a travesty."
Thomas Rodriguez, of Aurora, stood in Union Park wearing a shirt that said: "We are hard workers. We're not criminals."
The 38-year-old has had no legal status since he came to the United States from Mexico in 1989 and is an employee at a Japanese restaurant in Chicago.
"Recent raids have worried me," he said. "We worry deportations are leaving too many young people without parents."
In southwest Detroit, hundreds of people wore red and white and carried American flags to a rally.
"Most of the undocumented people come here as a necessity of survival," said Rosendo Delgado, of Latinos United, one of the groups organizing the march. "For them, it's the only choice."
A mariachi band played in Phoenix as marchers walked from the fairgrounds toward the state Capitol.
"We want just reform," said Mayela Ruiz, another illegal immigrant. "I've been here 15 years. I've worked hard, paid my taxes. I've had no problems with the law and I'm afraid to leave my house. I want a law that would allow me to work and live in freedom but not like a slave."
A few dozen counter-protesters across the street from the Capitol got in a shouting match with some at the rally.
"I want to send them back," said Phoenix resident George Propheter, who held up a large handwritten sign that read "Hell No." "I've been in the city for 40 years. They've completely destroyed our city."
No rallies were planned in Atlanta, where 50,000 marched last year, because many immigrants were afraid of the raids and of a new state law set to take effect in July. The law requires verification that adults seeking non-emergency state-administered benefits are in the country legally, sanctions employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and requires police to check the immigration status of people they arrest.
"There's a lot of anxiety and fear in the immigrant community," said Jerry Gonzalez of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials.
In Oakland, Calif., about 2,000 people marched to City Hall.
"Nothing has happened since last year," said Gloria Ramos, 51, a social worker at a children's nonprofit who left her native Mexico for Oakland 32 years ago. "Things are getting worse for our people — more discrimination, less benefits."
In Los Angeles County, home to about 1 million illegal immigrants, by far the largest concentration in America, marches were set to include demands for a legalization program, a stop to the raids and an anti-Iraq war message. City and transportation officials were planning for as many as 500,000 people in downtown Los Angeles, believing it could be the largest in the city so far this year.
Los Angeles public school teacher David Cid said he came to support his students, many of whom are suffering because of recent raids that have impacted their families.
"They feel terrorized," he said.
Despite divisions over tactics and other issues, immigration groups and supporters said the diverse events will show the movement is stronger than ever.
"Just because the 12 million people who don't have legal residency don't attend a march doesn't mean they don't want it," said Eduardo "Piolin" Sotelo, a popular Spanish-language disc jockey. "I tell my listeners that no matter what they do, just don't stop doing something."
After last year's protests, reform legislation stalled in Congress and bipartisan proposals for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship have gotten more conservative.
This year, about 400 members of Asian groups from across the country are set to make a lobbying push with lawmakers in Washington.
Organizers said Tuesday's turnout will be lower than the 1 million who took to the streets last year. Stepped-up raids in recent months have left many immigrants afraid to speak out in public — a major change over rallies in 2006 when some illegal immigrants wore T-shirts saying "I'm illegal. So what?"
"These raids have torn apart families," said John Crockford, a member of the Central California Coalition for Immigrant Rights.
In Fresno, organizers planned a rally focusing on children whose parents had been deported. The San Joaquin Valley is home to thousands of seasonal workers who work illegally each year in the fields and construction industry.
___
Associated Press writers Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles; Garance Burke in Fresno, Calif., Laura Wides-Munoz in Miami, Sophia Tareen in Chicago, Giovanna Dell'Orto in Atlanta and Amanda Lee Myers in Phoenix contributed to this report.
___
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[ link to www.mayday2007.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 211548 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 224590 5/1/2007 6:51 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | Arrest them now! |
| ^TrInItY^   Forum Administrator 5/1/2007 6:54 PM
 | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | illegal aliens protesting on usa soil in order to illegally influence american politics is illegal
they should be arrested "Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time, and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out." (President Andrew Jackson 1832) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 173374 5/1/2007 6:59 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | Close the damned border now! Right now. Put the national guard there with orders to shoot on sight any and all that try to come across, and the whole then will die down to a trikle. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230956 5/1/2007 7:03 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | Illegals have no right to demand anything. Shut up illegals and go back to your own country. |
| The Commentator User ID: 204909 5/1/2007 7:04 PM
 | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | There is a path to citizenship, it just doesn't involve entering and staying in the country illegally. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230756 5/1/2007 7:05 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | thousands of communist |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 150446 5/1/2007 7:11 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | GOD, I am FED UP with these illegal bastards making DEMANDS.
Arrest the arrogant creeps.
Detain them in those so-called FEMA camps.
PUNISH them for breaking our laws and ruining our cities.
Then tell them to STFU, until they get back to Mexico, and they can protest there.
I am officially ENRAGED. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21159 5/1/2007 7:18 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | They are saving the Mexican Imagration riots for a time they are best prepared to enforce Martial Law, thats what all the drills of late are for.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 173374 5/1/2007 7:19 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
thousands of communist Quoting: Anonymous Coward 230756
Thousands? Possibly millions. Look for membership in the Communist Party USA to increase in a large way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 224921 5/1/2007 7:21 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
illegal aliens protesting on usa soil in order to illegally influence american politics is illegal
they should be arrested Quoting: ^TrInItY^
They should be threatened with a tank and those that do not go back to their own country should be blown to pieces and then not given another thought.
Too many people say, "Ohhhh, but their human too." Fuckem! A decent human does not come over to your country, take food and jobs any way they can get it, making it much much harder for your children to have a better chance, for a better future. And anybody that makes my childs life harder, deserves a fuckin tank barrel up their arse.
Arrest them? Shoot the fuckers! |
| ChopNChange User ID: 224921 5/1/2007 7:22 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
illegal aliens protesting on usa soil in order to illegally influence american politics is illegal
they should be arrested
They should be threatened with a tank and those that do not go back to their own country should be blown to pieces and then not given another thought.
Too many people say, "Ohhhh, but their human too." Fuckem! A decent human does not come over to your country, take food and jobs any way they can get it, making it much much harder for your children to have a better chance, for a better future. And anybody that makes my childs life harder, deserves a fuckin tank barrel up their arse.
Arrest them? Shoot the fuckers! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 224921
That was me above, I was signed out.
And let's not forget the 3rd world crime these bastards bring to your country as well! "They're dumb and that's what makes them dangerous." |
| drippy User ID: 229812 5/1/2007 7:27 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | In support of big business and self serving politicians, the U.S. now has millions of illegals running around. And illegals may actually get more benefits than U.S. citizens...after all, many do not pay taxes but get free health care, free education, and have every right to sue you, the federal government, or anyone else they please. Here's an example:
Two illegal immigrants in Texas are now seeking American taxpayer dollars in a lawsuit accusing the Edward County Sheriff department of violating their civil rights. They want reimbursement for medical expenses and punitive damages for mental anguish.
-drippy |
| drippy User ID: 229812 5/1/2007 7:32 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
Two illegal immigrants in Texas are now seeking American taxpayer dollars in a lawsuit accusing the Edward County Sheriff department of violating their civil rights. They want reimbursement for medical expenses and punitive damages for mental anguish.
-drippy Quoting: drippy 229812
Forgot to mention that the two illegals actually received $5000 already from the sheriff but they are demanding more money. The sheriff shot at the two in a getaway car in self defense when they tried running him down with their car as they sped into the U.S. from Mexico. The federal court ordered the sheriff to pay them each $5000. Of course, this is America so the illegals want more money.
-drippy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 221016 5/1/2007 7:35 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | THE ACTIVE WORD IN THIS WHOLE ILLEGAL ALIEN DEBATE IS:
"I L L E G A L"
(AS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW)
TAKE YOUR CRIMES AND DEMANDS BACK TO MEXICO! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230990 5/1/2007 7:47 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | Everything is going according to *their* plan. This is just another distraction. Not only for the sheep, but for Congress as well. They will have to drop everything and address this issue. That will probably lead to a rapid re-work of the Iraq funding bill that was just vetoed. Things are starting to accelerate. Hold on to your hats folks!!!
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230992 5/1/2007 7:49 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
We should hire them to protest for Irak war !!  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 211548
Thats a good one! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230990 5/1/2007 7:49 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | One other thing folks. Once the blank check is issued, it is on with Iran. Mark my words.
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| ChopNChange User ID: 224921 5/1/2007 7:52 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | American people. I feel for you. I know what it's like to have your country raped by a people that is based on self destruction.
While I fight for my own country, I tend to help fight for yours from afar, because we are all of Western Civilization.
Take a look at this thread in shankradio.com and see what you make of it. I hope this puts a little calm in your souls, knowing that it is not JUST you that is suffering from these injustices.
[link to www.shankradio.com] "They're dumb and that's what makes them dangerous." |
| Enrique User ID: 230993 5/1/2007 7:52 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | man, as a Mexican american i proudly held the flag of the united states and i was born here unlike my parents who work 3 jobs to feed me and my brothers
we love america and want Mexicans to enjoy it to |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230992 5/1/2007 7:57 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
Everything is going according to *their* plan. This is just another distraction. Not only for the sheep, but for Congress as well. They will have to drop everything and address this issue. That will probably lead to a rapid re-work of the Iraq funding bill that was just vetoed. Things are starting to accelerate. Hold on to your hats folks!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 230990
And don't forget to mention the North American Union plan. Once that happens, this whole illegal alien issue is moot. Automatically, all three countries will have the same citizenship. We, or should I say I, should've seen "it" coming when the gov decided to "fast track" both NAFTA and GATTs' I and II. |
| ChopNChange User ID: 224921 5/1/2007 7:59 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
man, as a Mexican american i proudly held the flag of the united states and i was born here unlike my parents who work 3 jobs to feed me and my brothers
we love america and want Mexicans to enjoy it to Quoting: Enrique 230993
It's not your fault. Your parents bought YOU there. This is exactly what the Zionist Jew Yids wanted your parents to do, because it breaks down a race to a mentally dumbed down state.
Sad but true. Perhaps you should do the right thing and help Mexico rise to become a better country. Educate your children if/when you have any to respect the fact that their grandparents made a mistake.
It's hard to hear I know, but it's a fact. "They're dumb and that's what makes them dangerous." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230968 5/1/2007 8:00 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | Your loved right back man. Hopefully you see the point of people who were born here or followed proper steps to gain access considering you were born here. Its true, I'm ignorant to some of the protocols, waiting times to gain access, but it isn't too hard nor cost too much.
What's your take on this entire situation?
man, as a Mexican american i proudly held the flag of the united states and i was born here unlike my parents who work 3 jobs to feed me and my brothers
we love america and want Mexicans to enjoy it to Quoting: Enrique 230993 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230968 5/1/2007 8:00 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | Bullshit.
This is exactly what the Zionist Jew Yids wanted your parents to do, because it breaks down a race to a mentally dumbed down state. Quoting: ChopNChange |
| Enrique User ID: 230993 5/1/2007 8:04 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | I was born here, grew up playing baseball, now in high school very happy my chances of getting to college with a scholarship for baseball. My dream is to play in the MLB, buy my parents a big home so they don't have to pick fruits for 4 dollars an hour and mop floors at night for restaurants.
it's a shame that there's so much hate for us latinos but we are all people who want better lives, should we give up, lay down and not strive for happiness?
laws are man made, God gave man the earth, no man shall claim his land as his own, it belongs to all of us. |
| mj-13 User ID: 230992 5/1/2007 8:07 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote |
One other thing folks. Once the blank check is issued, it is on with Iran. Mark my words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 230990
You know it'll happen. Only a matter of time. The bizaar thing is how in the hell are we going to fight if we are spread so thin? Oh I forgot, they haven't activated the draft yet. Do you think they'll do it before or after the North American Union and expand the draft to all three sectors? Hmmmmmmmmmm. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 112244 5/1/2007 8:11 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | YOU FUCKERS(WHITE PEOPLE) LET 'EM IN SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!
DON'T LIKE IT,"KICK 'EM OUT AND SECURE YOUR FUCKEN BOARDERS....SOOOOOOOOOO STOP FUCKEN WHININ'!!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 230968 5/1/2007 8:13 PM | | Re: WTF !! Thousands of illegal people protested demand citizenship !! | Quote | True on all accounts in my opinion.
Unfortunately very-few live under God's law, we're forced to live under man's law. I know the definition of republic, and it would be absurd to say latino's were not part of america. (as brits, germans, swiss, africans, canadian, dutch etc. etc. etc.) That is America.
In a system that's already dieing and about broke, it can't take on more tasks or the resources deplete even more rapidly. |
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