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A COURSE in MIRACLES

 
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This new Revelation began in 1965 when Helen Schucman, an Associate professor of Medical Psychology at Columbia University in New York, began receiving channeled messages from a speaker who would later identify himself as Jesus Christ.

The messages began with the words, "Please take notes," this is not optional. So Helen Schucman a atheist Jewish psychologist began writing and for the next ten years the voice is said to have dictated "in an inaudible voice" over 500,000 words contained in the three volumes. This was done through the process called automatic handwriting, (in which a spirit entity guides the hand )and clairaudience, (hearing from a disembodied spirit) Schucman wrote this hefty volume, and she claims the source of the words was Jesus Himself

The Course is a spiritual/psychological book put in a systematic teaching consisting in three books (altogether1,188 pages).: a 622-page Text, a 478-page Workbook for Students, and an 88-page Manual for Teachers.

Dr. William Thetford, was one of her colleagues a clinical psychologist at Columbia University. While he never heard the voice, he was instrumental in the publication of the Course. Raised in the Christian Science church, Thetford believed the Course was a representation of the "original teachings of Jesus" (The Holy Encounter, Sept./Oct. 1990, p. 5).

Schucman and Thetford met Dr. Kenneth Wapnick of the Foundation for Inner Peace In 1972. The Copyright for the Course was turned over to Wapnick and his organization in 1975. In September of the same year the publication of the first edition of A Course In Miracles began. Schucman died in February 1981 and Thetford in 1988.

The primary reason for the Course is the "Correcting of the errors of Christianity.... To foster spiritual development through the study and practice of A Course In Miracles, a set of three books channeled by Jesus. ...to teach the Course's reinterpretation of traditional Christian principles such as sin, suffering, forgiveness, Atonement, and the meaning of the Crucifixion..." (Foundation for A Course In Miracles, "Forgiveness," p.3- 4).

From its inception the Course has no qualms saying it is to challenge the word of God written down by the aposltes who personally knew Jesus.

The Workbook includes 365 lessons, one for each day of the year.

"This Course is a beginning, not an end ... No more specific lessons are assigned, for there is no more need of them. Henceforth, hear but the Voice for God ... He will direct your efforts, telling you exactly what to do, how to direct your mind, and when to come to Him in silence, asking for His sure direction and His certain Word" (Workbook, p. 477).

The deception

The course uses common Christian terms with a completely new meaning that is metaphysical. With the intent of correcting errors in the Bible that have offended unbelievers because of their "narrow- mindedness." "There is no separation of God and His creation." ( Text, p. 147). The underlying theme of the course is Hinduism disguised in Christian terminology." It teaches that all roads " lead to God in the end."

One learns all this by "Revelation induces only experience" ( Text, p. 7) "When revelation of your oneness comes, it will be known and fully understood" (Workbook, p. 324). This is the mystical panenthism experinece where ones worldview changes by new knowledge, called the paradigm shift.
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Jesus Christ of the Course

According to the Course, Jesus is merely "an elder brother entitled to respect for his greater experience." The Jesus of the Course explains, "There is nothing about me that you cannot attain. This leaves me in a state which is only potential in you. I bridge the distance as an elder brother to you on the one hand, and as a Son of God on the other" (A Course In Miracles, Vol. 1, p. 5).

"Jesus is a man, who is like all other men, and the Christ idea, which all men possess and must eventually demonstrated. He becomes the pattern for all of us. Jesus the man was used by the Christ to demonstrate the illusion of the world. In actuality, man is still in heaven. It is simply the illusion of sin and death that have caused false senses of reality. However, when man gains his Christ consciousness as Jesus did, then according to the Course, man will also discover the illusion of sin."

So when you are enlightened you find that sin was never really apart of your nature but what kept you was ignorance of your divine self.

"The course teaches that Christ is not the only begotten son "...Jesus became what all of you must be. ...Is he the Christ? O yes, along with you. ...Is he God's only Helper? No, indeed. For Christ takes many forms with different names...," (pp. 83-84).

"The Son of God ... is not Jesus but our combined Christ consciousness."

The course teaches that there is no personal unique "only begotten Son of God" but includes everyone. The course separates Christ from the person who is the only Christ- Jesus, the Son of God. "Jesus was an historical person, but the Christ is an eternal transpersonal condition."

"The name Jesus refers to one who was a man but who saw the face of Christ in all his brothers.... So he became identified with Christ, a man no longer at one with God."

We are told that The Name of Jesus Christ is only a symbol. " It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray. (Manual, p. 58). So what we have here is iclusiveism, that it does not matter what name is used for God, Jesus is only one name among the many. "For Christ takes many forms with different names..." (pp. 83-84).

Man

It directs us to say of ourself "I am as God created me. His son can suffer nothing. And I am his son."(Course of Miracles p.165)

The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself. ( Text, p.147)

When God created you He made you part of Him. ( Text, p.100)

"There is no difference between your will and Gods." (Course of Miracles p.150)

A Course in Miracles likens us to sunbeams thinking we're separate from the sun, or waves thinking we're separate from the ocean. Just as a sunbeam can't separate itself from the sun, and a wave can't separate itself from the ocean, we can't separate ourselves from one another. We are all part of a vast sea of love, one indivisible divine mind.37

Our ultimate reality, then-the core of who we are-is a single undivided essence. We're not just similar in our essential nature, Williamson says; we're the same Stuff.

Reality change

"Miracles are natural. When they do not occur, something has gone wrong."

"Seek not to change the world but change instead the way you see it."

Man has created this illusionary World from "...false perceptions. It is born of error, and it has not left its source." Because Man believes he is separated from God, through his own ego and mistaken beliefs, Man has created the reality in which he now finds himself.

If you go deeply enough into your mind and my mind, we have the same mind. The concept of a divine, or "Christ" mind, is the idea that, at our core, we are not just identical, but actually the same being. "There is only one begotten Son" doesn't mean that someone else was it, and we're not. It means we're all it....

"Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God."

"The effect of the ego's belief in separation, which is its cause; the thought of separation given form; the world, being the expression of the belief in time and space, was not created by God.... The World of separation reinforces the ego's belief in sin and guilt, perpetuating the seeming existence of this world" (Glossary-Index For A Course In Miracles, p. 168).

"I am affected only by my thoughts. It needs but this to let salvation come to all the world. For in this single thought is everyone released at last from fear." (A course in Miracles, The Foundation for Inner Peace, Huntington Station, N.Y. Lesson 228, p. 461.)
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No SIN

"If we could prove that the cause had no effect then the cause can no longer exist. If something is not a cause it is not real, because everything that is real must be a cause and thus have an effect. If we remove the effect we are also eliminating the cause.

We live in a world is an illusion or dream-state, then by necessity, everything that the physical body does in this make-believe world must also be an illusion. This would necessarily include the false concepts of sin and death. As Volume 2 of the Course demands, "...sin is not real, and all that you believe must come from sin will never happen, for it has no cause" (p. 179). A similar parallel is made about death. "Death is the central dream from which all illusions stem" (Vol. 3, p. 63).

There is no sin; it has no consequence. (Workbook, p. 183)

But contradicting this it teaches "Sin is defined as `lack of Love.' Since love is all there is, sin in the sight of the Holy Spirit is a mistake to be corrected, rather than an evil to be punished," (A Course In Miracles, p. 8).

Further contradicting the statement that sinhas no consequence Kenneth Wapnick, of the Foundation for Inner Peace, explains, "If we now attempt to follow the Holy Spirit's thinking, and we want to prove that the world is not real and that the sin of separation never happened, all that is needed is to prove that sin has no effect."

"Now, if the greatest effect of sin in this world is death, demonstrating that death is an illusion simultaneously demonstrates that there is no sin. This also says that the separation never occurred. We therefore need someone to show us that there is no death. By undoing death that person will also undo sin and will simultaneously show us that there is no separation; the separation never occurred and the only reality, the only true Cause, is God. That person was Jesus. And his mission was to show that there is no death."

Herin lies theee internal contradiction of the course that not only challenges the Bible but is self contradictory. If sin does not exist why try to remedy it. If there is no sin then there certainly is no death.. Yet they claim "Death is the central dream from which all illusions stem," (Vol. 3, p. 63). Like its predecessor Christian Science, it denies reality. If there is good how can one say " evil does not exist" ( Text, p. 38). Reality is reduced to being explained by what one dislikes as an illuson and what one does like is not an illusion.

The deception is propogated by what we would call fallen spirits (demons who accuse God and try to convince what God sais in his word is not true). "Helpers are given you in many forms.... Their names are legion, but we will not go beyond the names the course itself employs. ...The name of Jesus is the name of one who was a man but saw the face of Christ in all his brothers and remembered God. So he became identified with Christ, a man no longer, but at one with God. The man was an illusion... And Christ needed his form that He might appear to men and save them from their own illusions" (Manual/Clarification of Terms 5)."

This is not what the Bible says, but the course does not intend to use the Bible accurately except to borrow its terms. Christ did not come to save man from our illusions but from sin which he taught was very real as well as the consequences for it. However Volume 2 of the Course stresses "...sin is not real, and all that you believe must come from sin will never happen, for it has no cause," (p. 179). The Bible says for this reason Christ came into the world to save SINNERS, Paul writes Christ died for us while we were yet SINNERS. It should become apparent for any student of Scripture that the Jesus of the "Course" is not the Jesus of the Bible. The course teaches the very opposite of Jesus' purpose to come to earth to rescue mankind. "The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation" (Text, p. 237).

"The crucifixion did not establish the Atonement; the resurrection did. Many sincere Christians have misunderstood this" (Text, p. 36) Again mimicking Christian Science the course denies the only way to be reconciled through God by his death on the cross.This should not be surprising as William Thetford who was instrumental in the publication of the Course was raised in the Christian Science church.

"The full awareness of the Atonement, then, is the recognition that the separation never occurred" ( Text, p. 98). Herein is the teaching of antichrist according to the bible, a denial that we are sinful and in need of the atonement that took place on the cross by the unique God/man Jesus Christ.

The Demon who dicatated all this tips his hat as he sates "Do not make the pathetic error of "clinging to the old rugged cross." The only message of the crucifixion is that you can overcome the cross. Until then you are free to crucify yourself as often as you choose. This is not the Gospel I intended to offer you" (Text, p. 52). Mocking the cross as the way to salvation comes not from God, but the enemy of God, the accuser who is satan the devil.
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course in miracles is a great book...
ever read it or just demonized it?
Anyway, thanks for turning even more people onto it.
Judge not....goes for everything.
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course in miracles is a great book...
ever read it or just demonized it?
Anyway, thanks for turning even more people onto it.
Judge not....goes for everything.
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Why do you Boneheads ALWAYS assume we havent done our homework. Seems to me you are the myopic one.
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Have you read it?
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Yep and its trash.
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Okay.
Good review.
Peace be with you though.
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She was 'channeled' by a demon - NOT Jesus the Christ.
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She was 'channeled' by a demon - NOT Jesus the Christ.
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She was channeled by the demon? That's a new one.
Yes, there are lot's of 'low-level' entities out there-in there.
You can always tell them by their signature..
Judgment
fear
preaching
etc...
the truest ones I relate to never tell you how to live your life, what to believe. They always tell you to look within...like Jesus did also.
I love Jesus very much...so much of the words from then were distorted...know thyself, in peace and the kingdom is right there...where it has always been.
Best to you.
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Not all of us are as close/narrow minded as you would like to believe. There was a time in my life when I was into some of the things I see many on here are into....so dont think I am unfamiliar with these topics.

At one point I was a big Edgar Cayce fan and was a member of A.R.E.
I was into the New Age movement and its lies....was a fan for a while of Ramtha (J.Z. Knight) eastern mysticism, astral projection, to name just a few.

Unbelivable huh?
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Not all of us are as close/narrow minded as you would like to believe. There was a time in my life when I was into some of the things I see many on here are into....so dont think I am unfamiliar with these topics.

At one point I was a big Edgar Cayce fan and was a member of A.R.E.
I was into the New Age movement and its lies....was a fan for a while of Ramtha (J.Z. Knight) eastern mysticism, astral projection, to name just a few.

Unbelivable huh?
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I trust you are happy with your choice then....that is all that matters. Cool then.
If I implied you were a bone-head, think nothing of of it..it's not your problem what I or anyone thinks about you...that's you.
I guess we are done then.
Thanks!
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No problem Ajax...I wish you peace too!
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A Course In Miracles has one main theme: Forgiveness.

So - I forgive all of you............ tomato
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This thread has promted my memory of an event that happened .

In 1981 when I was 33 I was walking alone in soho (central london). It was lunchtime, very crowded. A feeling filled me. I shone . I was really bright. I new everbody was being dazzled. I knew I was Jesus. Not weird, just what it was. The only thought that entered my mind was," nothing is going to crucify me". That said everthing then calmed down. Shining stopped and that was it. Only time Jesus ever came into my life.
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I have read the Course in Miracles.
I believe it is the new Third Testament.
It does not challenge the Bible, but merely
expands on it.

I also believe it was channeled by Jesus.
Of course anything can be selectively edited
and made to seem fraudulent, but the Course is
the real thing.

The Course talks about Miracles as the natural
state of things. It talks about forgiveness as
the only way out of all of our problems.

The Course states that all of our problems stem from
the Ego. The Ego is a mistaken collection of beliefs
about ourselves and the world.

The Course also constantly talks about the Holy Spirit
as the one who will help us find salvation. We are to
"become as little children" and turn to the Holy Spirit
for answers to all our questions.
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OP,

There is a time and place for everything. At this time you are simply unaware of what your future will bring you or how your thinkin gand perception will change.

As you evolve your mind will open. As your mind opens you will come to realizations that if they were suggested to you today, you would find them astonishing and unacceptable.

At this time, you feel secure with your beliefs. In the future you will see that your beliefs will change as you grow closer to God. Your judgements at this time will not be the judgements of your future.

At this time, there are many truths that make you feel insecure. These truths are unacceptable to you because they seem to assault your beliefs.

When the time comes, you will grow as we all grow ...and the light of God will fill you and bring you along as it is always meant to be...

Making efforts to find faults is not of God. Your efforts are making you bitter. If you continue to do these things you will only create dissapointment, unhappiness, a cold heart, and distance from your Father and Creator.

the two greatest commandments are the mysteries.

love. love.

discovering what that word means is the mystery.

good luck my friend.
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The course is the original ... it's the one which so many are based off of in some form or another, including David Hawkins, Neale Walsche, Brian Nager, and many others. I think the person who does the best job of explaining the course is Gary Renard and his book "disappearance of the universe" goes hand in hand with the course as the course itself is not light reading and is often misinterpreted.

peace and love
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thanks for the suggestion. It's will soon be a part of my collection.... along with his book "out of the darkness, into the light"
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[link to acim.org]

I don't know if this was channeled by Jesus/Jeshua or not.
I have read (possibly by disinfo types) that this is MK-ULTRA material.
The only qualms with it that I have are:

- It's a little too "hands off" and "ignore the world" (when it's too hard to)
- It's a little too passive in a world ruled by sadistic predators

On the flip-side, it has helped a lot of people, including my best friend. He often sends me the lesson he's working on that day, and it cheers me up.
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The book "Absence from Felicity" by Ken Wapnick tells the story of how The Course came about, it is excellent reading regardless of whether you believe the Course or not.

Peace
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Anyone havean ebook link for these??

Tanks,

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' "Those who give up freedom in the name of security deserve neither".
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thanks for the input both good and bad...looking forward to reading the other books that were recommended.
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