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THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTH

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User # 78/68
User ID: 233927
Canada
5/11/2007 11:38 AM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

"I wonder why sextants still work so well if the Sun is in
the wrong place?"


The arrogant government paid midget is at it again ... speaking for every person's sextant working. What a moron. This idiot cannot help himself.

The same government nut-jobs appear on all the same threads about the Sun and try as hard as they may, to push everybody off of this topic and conversation. Heaven forbid honest observers talk about this.

It's all the same liars ... lying, lying some more, and then lying some more. And they say they are here to either laugh at you all OR help you. Suuurrreeee they are!

Insulting and laughing at people is a very strange way to help them ... but not for these selfish freaks. Keep posting people ... apparently the word is leaking out right across the internet now. Ouch!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 122589
United States
5/11/2007 11:52 AM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

"I wonder why sextants still work so well if the Sun is in
the wrong place?"


The arrogant government paid midget is at it again ... speaking for every person's sextant working. What a moron. This idiot cannot help himself.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

The arrogant woo-woo paid agent is at it again, claiming earlier that absolutely nobody believes anything Dr. Postman posts anymore. What a hypocrite.
Menow
User ID: 158986
United States
5/11/2007 12:22 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

Ok CB, what's the reason why daylight savnigs time got changed? I happen to have a windows 95 machine at my job that works the security card/badge system at my job and it was programmed for years to come to change the daylight savings time right on schedule just like many other electronics were. If the planets, stars, suns, etc are known to move the same distances as we have been aware of for hundreds of years this would explain why a simple windows 95 machine could be programmed to change the time on a specific date every single year to come, however, this windows 95 machine as well as every other machine that was programmed with daylight savings times all had to be patched to accept the new daylight savings time. Windows 95 does not have a patch so all I could do was change the time myself until the out-dated daylight savings time came around a few weeks later.

Tell me CB, what's the reason for this since I'm sure you have the proof.

You asked me where is the sun supposed to be rising? I told you that it normally rises at the end of my street almost perfectly. I noticed that it is farther north than it should be this time of the year. Let me further explain...

When you live in a house for several years and get into your car every day monday thru friday at the same time, you know where the sun normally rises and blinds you on the way to work, etc. I noticed that the sun was quite a bit north of the street that it normally aligns with as it rises and was hidden behind some trees that it has never been at in the several years that I've been living in my house at this time of year. Do you want coordinates? Sorry I don't have any, I only know what I'm seeing doesn't seem right so I decided to search for this issue online today and by "chance" thre are others talking about the same issues. Especially people way up by the North pole. These people are 1st hand witnesses that something is going on with the sun and they've been living there for god knows how long.

I'm not looking for an argument, I'm looking to see if others are seeing what I am and just before I thought I was going crazy I decided to search google and found EXACTLY what I was looking for so that I know I'm not insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227248


Did you go to any astronomy sites for information about this? Why not?

No one is saying that you are insane, but why do you suddenly think that you remember exactly where the Sun was on a certain date from past years?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 158986
United States
5/11/2007 12:24 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

"I wonder why sextants still work so well if the Sun is in
the wrong place?"


The arrogant government paid midget is at it again ... speaking for every person's sextant working. What a moron. This idiot cannot help himself.

The same government nut-jobs appear on all the same threads about the Sun and try as hard as they may, to push everybody off of this topic and conversation. Heaven forbid honest observers talk about this.

It's all the same liars ... lying, lying some more, and then lying some more. And they say they are here to either laugh at you all OR help you. Suuurrreeee they are!

Insulting and laughing at people is a very strange way to help them ... but not for these selfish freaks. Keep posting people ... apparently the word is leaking out right across the internet now. Ouch!
 Quoting: User # 78/68



That's internets.
jlazarus
User ID: 185585
United States
5/11/2007 12:25 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

Ok CB, what's the reason why daylight savnigs time got changed? I happen to have a windows 95 machine at my job that works the security card/badge system at my job and it was programmed for years to come to change the daylight savings time right on schedule just like many other electronics were. If the planets, stars, suns, etc are known to move the same distances as we have been aware of for hundreds of years this would explain why a simple windows 95 machine could be programmed to change the time on a specific date every single year to come, however, this windows 95 machine as well as every other machine that was programmed with daylight savings times all had to be patched to accept the new daylight savings time. Windows 95 does not have a patch so all I could do was change the time myself until the out-dated daylight savings time came around a few weeks later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227248


Um, I'm not CB, but what the heck are you talking about? That old machine needed a patch because daylight savings time, as recognized in the US this year was CHANGED - after that dang machine was built. No conspiracy there.

See, for the last 20 years or so, Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. began at 2:00 a.m. on the first Sunday of April and ended at 2:00 a.m. on the last Sunday of October.

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 extended Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. beginning in 2007, though Congress retained the right to revert to the 1986 law should the change prove unpopular or if energy savings are not significant. Going from 2007 forward, Daylight Saving Time in the U.S.

What does any of that have to do with the original post of this thread stating that the 'sun is rising in the north'? I must have missed something here. And what does this have to do with, as you said "planets, stars, suns, etc are known to move the same distances"...?????

You asked me where is the sun supposed to be rising? I told you that it normally rises at the end of my street almost perfectly. I noticed that it is farther north than it should be this time of the year. Let me further explain...

When you live in a house for several years and get into your car every day monday thru friday at the same time, you know where the sun normally rises and blinds you on the way to work, etc. I noticed that the sun was quite a bit north of the street that it normally aligns with as it rises and was hidden behind some trees that it has never been at in the several years that I've been living in my house at this time of year. Do you want coordinates?

I'm not looking for an argument, I'm looking to see if others are seeing what I am and just before I thought I was going crazy I decided to search google and found EXACTLY what I was looking for so that I know I'm not insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227248

No, you are not crazy or insane. You are however more observant right now than you have been in the past obviously - because you are now noting that the sun, this time of year here, does indeed rise north of east.

The thing is, it *always* has this time of year - and will continue to do so as we get closer to the Summer Solstice. It's not a new thing. In fact, ancients documented this well - ever heard of Stonehenge? Check this out: [link to antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

And you know what? Come this fall and winter, it will be rising SOUTH of east (and setting SOUTH of west too - hence our 'shorter' days in the winter). So now that you are realizing this, get you a notebook and jot down where the Sun is rising and setting - oh say, once a week or so. Then post back here in late June and tell me if it seems to be moving more North when it rises. Then post in September and tell me if it seems to be moving more East (or perhaps around 9/22 or so when it should be dead on East). Then post again right before Christmas and tell me if it seems to be moving South.

Just do this little experiment and see what happens.
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DrPostman SubscriberModerator
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User ID: 51197
United States
5/11/2007 12:47 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

someday your going to be wrong
and you'll be the only one
who doesn't know it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 218242



Like I haven't been seeing that for over 12 years on the
net now. BTW, "I" have admitted that I have been wrong on
several occasions. Nancy can't bring herself to do so.

BTW folks. Did ya know that you can make your own sextant?
[link to www.tecepe.com.br]

Please do so and check for yourself on these silly claims of
the Sun being out of place.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74444
United States
5/11/2007 1:07 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

"I wonder why sextants still work so well if the Sun is in
the wrong place?"

The arrogant government paid midget is at it again ... speaking for every person's sextant working. What a moron. This idiot cannot help himself.
 Quoting: User # 78/68


Sigh.

Please describe a movement of the planet that could cause SOME sextants to remain accurate while others would simultaneously fail. Be specific.

Also, explain why the Hawaiian Navigators, currently making their rounds of the entire Pacific using ancient navigational techniques (even older than the sextant) exclusively continue to make landfall after landfall accurately.

I have a prediction: 78/68 fails to rise to the challenge again.
Circuit Breaker Subscriber
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 157725
United States
5/11/2007 1:11 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

leave CB alone he obviously gets paid by the post, hey everybody has to hussle to make a buck these days ;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 131380

LOL!! And your proof of that is? I say it's MORE obvious that YOU'RE the paid agent...part of some government psyop. What are you trying to distract us from?
Circuit Breaker Subscriber
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 157725
United States
5/11/2007 1:17 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

Ok CB, what's the reason why daylight savnigs time got changed? I happen to have a windows 95 machine at my job that works the security card/badge system at my job and it was programmed for years to come to change the daylight savings time right on schedule just like many other electronics were. If the planets, stars, suns, etc are known to move the same distances as we have been aware of for hundreds of years this would explain why a simple windows 95 machine could be programmed to change the time on a specific date every single year to come, however, this windows 95 machine as well as every other machine that was programmed with daylight savings times all had to be patched to accept the new daylight savings time. Windows 95 does not have a patch so all I could do was change the time myself until the out-dated daylight savings time came around a few weeks later.

Tell me CB, what's the reason for this since I'm sure you have the proof.

You asked me where is the sun supposed to be rising? I told you that it normally rises at the end of my street almost perfectly. I noticed that it is farther north than it should be this time of the year. Let me further explain...

When you live in a house for several years and get into your car every day monday thru friday at the same time, you know where the sun normally rises and blinds you on the way to work, etc. I noticed that the sun was quite a bit north of the street that it normally aligns with as it rises and was hidden behind some trees that it has never been at in the several years that I've been living in my house at this time of year. Do you want coordinates? Sorry I don't have any, I only know what I'm seeing doesn't seem right so I decided to search for this issue online today and by "chance" thre are others talking about the same issues. Especially people way up by the North pole. These people are 1st hand witnesses that something is going on with the sun and they've been living there for god knows how long.

I'm not looking for an argument, I'm looking to see if others are seeing what I am and just before I thought I was going crazy I decided to search google and found EXACTLY what I was looking for so that I know I'm not insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227248


LOL!!! That's the BEST you have? Give me a break. Daylight Savings Time being moved has absolutely NO impact on where objects appear in the sky.

And you're basing your belief on where the sun should be for this time of year on trees? You're joking right? Do you have photographic proof that the sun is too far north? Again, if the sun were further north than where it's supposed to be, sunrise and sunset times would not be correct. You can look up sunrise and sunset times from several years ago and compare them to today and find they match. Again, moving DST up three weeks would have no impact on this because DST would normally occur in April anyway. And finding a few people on a conspiracy theory web-site does nothing to lend credence to your claims. Try searching through any number of astronomy web-sites or groups on the Internet and let us know what you find.
Circuit Breaker Subscriber
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 157725
United States
5/11/2007 1:22 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

The arrogant government paid midget is at it again ... speaking for every person's sextant working. What a moron. This idiot cannot help himself.
 Quoting: Loser # 78/68

Just like when you speak for everyone when you said no one listens to DrPostman, uh? Oh, the irony. What a moron. This idiot can't help himself.

It's all the same liars ... lying, lying some more, and then lying some more. And they say they are here to either laugh at you all OR help you. Suuurrreeee they are!
 Quoting: Loser # 78/68

So, by calling us liars when we say the sun is not too far north, what you mean is that YOU believe it is. Okay. PROVE IT! Put your money where your mouth is, Loser. I doubt you will. The last time someone challenged you to prove an astronomical claim you ran away. Why do you lie about "Debunkers?" Every one of our claims can be verified. If you want to ridicule anyone it should be Nancy. Everything she says is a lie...oh, but that's right. She's your boss so you can't speak bad about her or she'll cut off your paycheck.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88145
United States
5/11/2007 2:27 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

78/68 will always run away from any challenge. He's funnier than a barrel of monkeys, and not near as smart.
Hadjhi Halef Omar
User ID: 235181
Slovakia
5/11/2007 3:06 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

float
Then where's the proper direction? Does it mean I bumped my head in vain?
Circuit Breaker Subscriber
Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure
User ID: 157725
United States
5/11/2007 3:51 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

All I'm saying is that in the four years I've been coming to this forum, someone starts a thread like this every year about this time. That's four years that one of these individuals could have documented where the sun should be and where it actually was. In all that time, no one has provided anything to support these claims...not even Loser, who would have all believe a bunch of anonymous posters. Hmmm, wasn't it Loser that was ranting and raving about how "Debunkers" don't know how the scientific process works? Tell us, Loser...how scientific is it to believe claims from anonymous posters without any kind of supporting evidence? Have you tried reading the disclaimer at the bottom of the page? You should try it sometime.
hopalongcasidy
User ID: 656396
United States
4/14/2009 2:24 AM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

it is noted that i may be able to drive to see the happy little cat who ate something and wanted everyone to see
coccabeen
User ID: 656396
United States
4/14/2009 2:28 AM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

never stop the car and talk to a little purple monkey it will give you hives and steel your car or truck
:o) pls read
User ID: 658756
United States
4/17/2009 12:23 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

DST has nothing to do with where the sun is at any given time, however, it does mask people noticing that we have daylight here at 49 N lat at 4:40am standard time because after all, how many of you are actually up at that hour?
(and YES, I am aware that its DST right now but the Sun's position is not calculated on DST, only STANDARD.)
I am, i have trouble sleeping and the sun is nearly overhead here AT HIGH NOON (thats 1pm for anyone who thinks I'm not aware of that)and its way too early for this time of year.
The sun is rising too far N as well. (coming up at DUE NE)
Even if you calcualte for 1.01 degrees for every day past "accepted" vernal equinox, the math still does not add up. (it's off by 15 degrees.) Should only be 28.28 degrees farther N.
We suddenly have surveyors all over the place where I live, rural area.
I can only assume that they are having trouble with this as well as they MUST calculate true north by using the proper declination for this lat ond long.
They've been out here for a week, just got done a day or so ago.
I've done the math, I've taken the measurements,
IT DOES NOT ADD UP.
O BTW, I was a straight A student, took advanced math courses so I could take a programming course. (I'm B Gates age) Which included lots of advanced Geometry classes.
A+
So, you tell me why farmers are noticing this, and the inuit among others.
It's a shame that we don't have someone here on this forum who lives in or near S England who can get to Stonehenge and see if the sun comes up over the heelstone on the summer solstice. (which is how it was aligned hundreds of years sgo)
Well?
p.s.
User ID: 658756
United States
4/17/2009 12:26 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

it may also explain why the census takers are doing prep work a YEAR in advance and they are all carrying GPS with them/
They were at my house two days ago.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630753
United States
4/17/2009 12:28 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

ahhh
:o)
User ID: 658756
United States
4/17/2009 12:38 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

Also, sextants would work in some places but it would depend on location of use and where the new point of rotation is located.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575837
United States
4/17/2009 12:47 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

DST has nothing to do with where the sun is at any given time, however, it does mask people noticing that we have daylight here at 49 N lat at 4:40am standard time because after all, how many of you are actually up at that hour?
(and YES, I am aware that its DST right now but the Sun's position is not calculated on DST, only STANDARD.)
I am, i have trouble sleeping and the sun is nearly overhead here AT HIGH NOON (thats 1pm for anyone who thinks I'm not aware of that)and its way too early for this time of year.
The sun is rising too far N as well. (coming up at DUE NE)
Even if you calcualte for 1.01 degrees for every day past "accepted" vernal equinox, the math still does not add up. (it's off by 15 degrees.) Should only be 28.28 degrees farther N.
We suddenly have surveyors all over the place where I live, rural area.
I can only assume that they are having trouble with this as well as they MUST calculate true north by using the proper declination for this lat ond long.
They've been out here for a week, just got done a day or so ago.
I've done the math, I've taken the measurements,
IT DOES NOT ADD UP.
O BTW, I was a straight A student, took advanced math courses so I could take a programming course. (I'm B Gates age) Which included lots of advanced Geometry classes.
A+
So, you tell me why farmers are noticing this, and the inuit among others.
It's a shame that we don't have someone here on this forum who lives in or near S England who can get to Stonehenge and see if the sun comes up over the heelstone on the summer solstice. (which is how it was aligned hundreds of years sgo)
Well?
 Quoting: :o) pls read 658756



I work the overnight shift from 11pm to 9:00am for the last 10 years. I agree with you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 645090
United States
4/17/2009 12:52 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

Also, sextants would work in some places but it would depend on location of use and where the new point of rotation is located.
 Quoting: :o) 658756


New point of rotation?? That would mean Polaris is no longer our north pole star. Guess what. It still is.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 645090
United States
4/17/2009 12:53 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

DST has nothing to do with where the sun is at any given time, however, it does mask people noticing that we have daylight here at 49 N lat at 4:40am standard time because after all, how many of you are actually up at that hour?
(and YES, I am aware that its DST right now but the Sun's position is not calculated on DST, only STANDARD.)
I am, i have trouble sleeping and the sun is nearly overhead here AT HIGH NOON (thats 1pm for anyone who thinks I'm not aware of that)and its way too early for this time of year.
The sun is rising too far N as well. (coming up at DUE NE)
Even if you calcualte for 1.01 degrees for every day past "accepted" vernal equinox, the math still does not add up. (it's off by 15 degrees.) Should only be 28.28 degrees farther N.
We suddenly have surveyors all over the place where I live, rural area.
I can only assume that they are having trouble with this as well as they MUST calculate true north by using the proper declination for this lat ond long.
They've been out here for a week, just got done a day or so ago.
I've done the math, I've taken the measurements,
IT DOES NOT ADD UP.
O BTW, I was a straight A student, took advanced math courses so I could take a programming course. (I'm B Gates age) Which included lots of advanced Geometry classes.
A+
So, you tell me why farmers are noticing this, and the inuit among others.
It's a shame that we don't have someone here on this forum who lives in or near S England who can get to Stonehenge and see if the sun comes up over the heelstone on the summer solstice. (which is how it was aligned hundreds of years sgo)
Well?



I work the overnight shift from 11pm to 9:00am for the last 10 years. I agree with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 575837


Clearly you don't work overnight as an astronomer.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575837
United States
4/17/2009 1:01 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

No it's called being observant...try it...you'll like it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658774
United Kingdom
4/17/2009 1:02 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

It cannot be further north because my Sun dial is half an hour late making the Sun further south!
AnTiSoShAL
User ID: 420394
United States
4/17/2009 1:04 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

It amazes me thread like this actually get so much volume

I work with meteorological condition reporting and recording systems.

I have historical tables of sunrise and sunset dating for years, including lat and long for seasonal variation. Its all important info for aviation navigation.

Nothing is aberrant. There are no unexpected variances. The sun is exactly where it should be, as properly predicted by basic astronomy.

To put it quite simply, you are all so bored and desperate to see a great conspiracy that now even the sun rising is being seen through hysteria tinted glasses.

I fear for us as a race, not because of all the bogeymen you all see daily, but because so many of you can simultaneous claim to prove the existence of 1000 different bogeymen that contradict all of human knowledge and so blithely proclaim anyone who tries to show you otherwise as the enemy.

Heaven forbid there be a real bogeyman or two in your hallucinatory crowd....you could shout and scream and point all you want. The rest of the world has already written you off as batshit crazy.....no one will listen when you do find one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575837
United States
4/17/2009 1:15 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane
by those who could not hear the music."
Menow
User ID: 645090
United States
4/17/2009 1:21 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

No it's called being observant...try it...you'll like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 575837


Try learning some astronomy... or not. You can just remain an ignorant boob if you like.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 658778
United Kingdom
4/17/2009 1:25 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

No it's called being observant...try it...you'll like it.


Try learning some astronomy... or not. You can just remain an ignorant boob if you like.
 Quoting: Menow 645090


The OP was right.

He is usually always right.
Phasesphere Subscriber
Strategic Air Command
User ID: 658128
United States
4/17/2009 2:25 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

It amazes me thread like this actually get so much volume

I work with meteorological condition reporting and recording systems.

I have historical tables of sunrise and sunset dating for years, including lat and long for seasonal variation. Its all important info for aviation navigation.

Nothing is aberrant. There are no unexpected variances. The sun is exactly where it should be, as properly predicted by basic astronomy.

To put it quite simply, you are all so bored and desperate to see a great conspiracy that now even the sun rising is being seen through hysteria tinted glasses.

I fear for us as a race, not because of all the bogeymen you all see daily, but because so many of you can simultaneous claim to prove the existence of 1000 different bogeymen that contradict all of human knowledge and so blithely proclaim anyone who tries to show you otherwise as the enemy.

Heaven forbid there be a real bogeyman or two in your hallucinatory crowd....you could shout and scream and point all you want. The rest of the world has already written you off as batshit crazy.....no one will listen when you do find one.
 Quoting: AnTiSoShAL 420394


This is a site for the Lunatic Fringe. We all come here freely and accept our fate. Im sure you will eventually find a place of like minded people. You see what something like this topic really does, is make people aware of nature. They become aware of the rotation of the earth. They notice where the Sun is, and a few will learn how to correctly track the Sun and the Stars. One thing I will share. Since Ive become more aware of the patterns of the constellations over a year period, I notice that Polaris will actually move up and down as the seasons progress. This shows me how the tilt really feels. Its like being on a Ferris Wheel. Anyway, you get the picture... to each his own. Later zz
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Face your fear, accept your role, It is what it is.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 460781
United States
4/17/2009 2:31 PM
Re: THE SUN IS RISING IN THE NORTHQuote

The sun is not rising anywhere. The Earth is rotating and changing the angle in its orbit to make the sun appear as if it is rising more to the North, because the Earth is tilted in its orbit around the Sun. What you are seeing and knowing is about the orbit of the Earth. The oscillating platform of the Earth in its orbit around the Sun.

Quit being dizzy.
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