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| zacksavage ~~Unbound~~ User ID: 32566 05/08/2007 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "a 20-ton armored truck with a blast-resistant body, armored rotating roof hatch and gunports." Seems like overkill to use on your own citizens,...wouldn't you say malu? Z It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it. --- AUNG SAN SUU KYI, Freedom from Fear |
| malu (OP) User ID: 206474 05/08/2007 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | shock and awe, hence the birth of the swat teams, overwhelm with superior force and tactics, especially on the tax payer dime to me, this is a sign that the gov is getting scared, really scared if the masses realize they are the overwhelming force, the party is over "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
| dabru User ID: 215845 05/08/2007 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "a 20-ton armored truck with a blast-resistant body, armored rotating roof hatch and gunports." Quoting: zacksavageSeems like overkill to use on your own citizens,...wouldn't you say malu? Z Dumb-shit- overkill? Maybe, maybe not- but six shootings in that neighborhood in Pittsburgh is alot. maybe there was a gang war going on- how would you handle that? Maybe those poor people that live there should help the police rid their neighborhoods of the criminals instead of complaining about social injustice. |
| malu (OP) User ID: 206474 05/08/2007 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "a 20-ton armored truck with a blast-resistant body, armored rotating roof hatch and gunports." Quoting: dabruSeems like overkill to use on your own citizens,...wouldn't you say malu? Z Dumb-shit- overkill? Maybe, maybe not- but six shootings in that neighborhood in Pittsburgh is alot. maybe there was a gang war going on- how would you handle that? Maybe those poor people that live there should help the police rid their neighborhoods of the criminals instead of complaining about social injustice. that is but a symptom of much larger social issues, so where do you draw the line now? is this the way we want to live? there is a lot more to it than what meets the eye "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
| zacksavage ~~Unbound~~ User ID: 32566 05/08/2007 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that is but a symptom of much larger social issues, so where do you draw the line now? is this the way we want to live? there is a lot more to it than what meets the eye Quoting: maluClearly. Z It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it. --- AUNG SAN SUU KYI, Freedom from Fear |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234022 05/08/2007 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "a 20-ton armored truck with a blast-resistant body, armored rotating roof hatch and gunports." Quoting: dabruSeems like overkill to use on your own citizens,...wouldn't you say malu? Z Dumb-shit- overkill? Maybe, maybe not- but six shootings in that neighborhood in Pittsburgh is alot. maybe there was a gang war going on- how would you handle that? Maybe those poor people that live there should help the police rid their neighborhoods of the criminals instead of complaining about social injustice. |
| malu (OP) User ID: 206474 05/08/2007 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes like the incident recently at university, and the cops hid behind trees and let a lone nut kill how many students? at least that is the accepted story, except for the cops, that is on video "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234043 05/09/2007 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes like the incident recently at university, and the cops hid behind trees and let a lone nut kill how many students? Quoting: maluat least that is the accepted story, except for the cops, that is on video Malu--what the fuck did you want to happen? The cops didn't know who or what was going on in that University. They had no idea how many gunmen there were. You do know that the size of VT is like the size of a fucking city right? 25,000 students. What the fuck do you want the cops to be- psychic? And maybe, just maybe, the cops wouldn't have to go to such extremes with their vehicles and such if the citizens of this country weren't such shitbags shooting each other every fucking day. |
| Chosen1 User ID: 217798 05/09/2007 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Face it ..the police have a bad name now with the average person..they worked hard to get there...corruption runs rampant in their ranks and we the taxpayers are paying for it..i believe its time for a new type of citizenry protectorate..the police force is a no go anymore...they protected their own rights into oblivion so now the citizens dont trust them or really even want them around..non the less pay their salaires...time for a change .. |
| Godot User ID: 214158 05/09/2007 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..they protected their own right into oblivion so now the citizens dont trust them or really even want them around..non the less pay their salaires...time for a change .. Quoting: Chosen1Agreed. Yes it's safe, it's very safe, it's so safe you wouldn't believe it.... ... No, it's not safe, it's very dangerous. Be Careful. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234043 05/09/2007 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. The same could be said for teachers. Let's see-how many stories do we have to hear every week about another teacher having sex with a student? Hmm...corruption runs rampant in those ranks and none of us should send our kids to school. That would be ridiculous right? Because we can't hold ALL teachers responsible for what some did. Same goes for cops. |
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| Chosen1 User ID: 217798 05/09/2007 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have the citizens hire a lobbyist to inform the government that a new type of Citizen Protectorate should be formed. Displeasure with the police has grown 10 fold in the last 4 years or so..stricter guidelines should be put in place when hiring for the police force and regular investigations of thier higher ups should be made mandatory if they wanna continue being a logical alternative for protection. I believe there motto used to be "To protect and Serve" wasnt it? |
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| malu (OP) User ID: 206474 05/09/2007 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think the answer to both of your questions would be trained and armed citizens, especially at the university, but it is proven fact that areas of heavy concentration of legally owned and carried guns have just about zero crime Vermont, well, if i was a cop, with body armor on, sitting outside the classroom, i would have recognized that it was a pistol caliber being used, and i would have risked my fucking life to get in their and save some people , and kill a madman if at all possible yes, it is the size of a city, but i saw plenty of video of lots of cops outside the classroom hiding behind trees,, now that is BULLSHIT! "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234165 05/09/2007 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think the answer to both of your questions would be trained and armed citizens, especially at the university, but it is proven fact that areas of heavy concentration of legally owned and carried guns have just about zero crime Quoting: maluVermont, well, if i was a cop, with body armor on, sitting outside the classroom, i would have recognized that it was a pistol caliber being used, and i would have risked my fucking life to get in their and save some people , and kill a madman if at all possible yes, it is the size of a city, but i saw plenty of video of lots of cops outside the classroom hiding behind trees,, now that is BULLSHIT! You are the biggest bullshitter on this fucking board. You talk like you're all badass and shit but this is the fucking internet and in reality you are a scared shitless pussy. If you were one of those cops at VT you would have done the exact same thing, because that is what you are trained to do. You don't run into a building blind to the fact of how many people are in there shooting. That is just stupid. It was said that Cho put 3 bullets into each person. Which means a hell of alot of bullets were flying around. Yeah....you'd run in there. BULLSHIT. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234168 05/09/2007 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes like the incident recently at university, and the cops hid behind trees and let a lone nut kill how many students? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234043at least that is the accepted story, except for the cops, that is on video Malu--what the fuck did you want to happen? The cops didn't know who or what was going on in that University. They had no idea how many gunmen there were. You do know that the size of VT is like the size of a fucking city right? 25,000 students. What the fuck do you want the cops to be- psychic? And maybe, just maybe, the cops wouldn't have to go to such extremes with their vehicles and such if the citizens of this country weren't such shitbags shooting each other every fucking day. Well first of all the cops are supposed to be trained to handle such situations, clearing buildings and saving innocent lives, second that is their job, they applied for it, get paid for it and train for it, no one forced them into it. If your afraid to do the job get another one , don’t be a pussy and hide behind trees while those you are being paid to serve and protect are being murdered, grow some fucking balls. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234168 05/09/2007 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So as the police are coming in, they can get picked off one by one? How the fuck would that help? Think you idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234171Well if you are stupid enough to walk in a line one after another it would help clean the gene pool, but as your reading comprehension is obviously lacking, I said: the police are trained for such situations, now I will spell it out for you: they are trained in the proper procedures for entering and clearing such buildings with armed gunmen inside. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 234189 05/09/2007 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So as the police are coming in, they can get picked off one by one? How the fuck would that help? Think you idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234168Well if you are stupid enough to walk in a line one after another it would help clean the gene pool, but as your reading comprehension is obviously lacking, I said: the police are trained for such situations, now I will spell it out for you: they are trained in the proper procedures for entering and clearing such buildings with armed gunmen inside. How is your reading comprehension, you stupid fuck? By the end of this second attack lasting nine minutes, Cho had fired about 170 rounds, killing 30 people and wounding many more, and still had ammunition when he killed himself. It took police nearly five minutes to gain entry to the barricaded building. When they could not break the chains, an officer shot out a dead-bolt lock leading to a stairwell. As police reached the second floor, they heard Cho fire his final shot. Cho was found dead in Jocelyne Couture-Nowak's classroom, Room 211, from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the temple. |
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| Khain User ID: 189782 05/09/2007 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is recommended you behave yourselves and keep a respectful distance, no closer than The Perimeter of 5m permits. Remember your roots and which class you come from, and whose interests you represent, therefore. This is under The Tengu. You don't want to. You know this. Why then do you pretend, do you think it makes you look brave or that you accomplish something that way? It just makes you look like a traitor to your own kind and roots, and that is ugly - and can get ugly. We don't recommend such a course on your parts, even as pretence. Regards, Khain, c/o Tengu. |
| malu (OP) User ID: 206474 05/09/2007 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think the answer to both of your questions would be trained and armed citizens, especially at the university, but it is proven fact that areas of heavy concentration of legally owned and carried guns have just about zero crime Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234165Vermont, well, if i was a cop, with body armor on, sitting outside the classroom, i would have recognized that it was a pistol caliber being used, and i would have risked my fucking life to get in their and save some people , and kill a madman if at all possible yes, it is the size of a city, but i saw plenty of video of lots of cops outside the classroom hiding behind trees,, now that is BULLSHIT! You are the biggest bullshitter on this fucking board. You talk like you're all badass and shit but this is the fucking internet and in reality you are a scared shitless pussy. If you were one of those cops at VT you would have done the exact same thing, because that is what you are trained to do. You don't run into a building blind to the fact of how many people are in there shooting. That is just stupid. It was said that Cho put 3 bullets into each person. Which means a hell of alot of bullets were flying around. Yeah....you'd run in there. BULLSHIT. trained to stand around with my head up my ass? no, that would be a skill you are born with, like yourself! ass "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |