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malu 
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5/12/2007 10:08 PM
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remember folks, the pakis have nukes, and if you think India is going to sit by while the "radicals" get control of them,, not going to happen, also, the taliban are making quite a showing in afghanistan, this is , or could be a very decisive turn of events:
President Musharraf could declare a state of emergency in Pakistan amid growing civil unrest against his increasingly embattled regime.
Security forces were placed on high alert yesterday, detaining hundreds of activists on the eve of an anti-government rally in Karachi. Rival demonstrations are planned by supporters of General Musharraf, raising fears of violent clashes in the southern port city today.
An extra 15,000 police and paramilitary troops have been deployed to Karachi where the country’s Chief Justice, who was suspended by General Musharraf, is expected to urge his supporters to step up their campaign of opposition to the Government. General Musharraf, a key US ally in the War on Terror, removed Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry on March 9 for alleged misconduct. His action triggered violent protests in defence of the judiciary, which had previously enjoyed a degree of independence under the military-backed regime.
Opposition to General Musharraf’s alleged attack on the independence of the judiciary was initially led by lawyers’ associations and rights groups striving to bring Pakistan under the rule of law. But the protests have evolved into a pro-democracy movement, with broad support across Pakistan that extends well beyond earlier antigovernment demonstrations that were led by radical Islamic groups.
The protests, which were declared illegal, escalated after a series of violent clashes with security forces, and have grown to present the most serious challenge to General Musharraf since he seized power in a bloodless coup in 1999. On Thursday unidentified gunmen fired gunshots at the residence of Munir Malik, the president of the Pakistan Bar Council, who is also an attorney for the sacked judge. A 14-judge bench of the Supreme Court is due to start hearing a series of petitions challenging the suspension of the judge.
Shaukat Aziz, the Prime Minister, last week hinted at the imposition of a state of emergency if police were unable to restore order. Opposition leaders gave a warning that any such action could push the country towards civil strife.
Tens of thousands of people greeted Justice Chaudhry last week when he travelled from Islamabad to the central Punjab city of Lahore, which is General Musharraf’s main support base. The judge, who has emerged as a symbol of the pro-democracy movement, threw down a gauntlet when he declared that the days of authoritarian rule in the country were numbered.
General Musharraf is also to address a mass rally in Islamabad today in an attempt to counter the nationwide demonstrations in support of Justice Chaudhry. Barricades have been erected along the roads leading to the administrative district, where the President is due to speak. General Musharraf’s opponents claim that government supporters are being transported to the city to give the impression that the President enjoys widespread support there.
General Musharraf, who is also the Chief of Army Staff, has announced his intention to seek another term as President in September or October, but refuses to declare whether he will relinquish his military post as required by Pakistan’s constitution.
Some analysts claim that his main motive for removing Justice Chaudhry is to be able to appoint a loyal chief justice who would thwart a constitutional challenge to his plans.
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Dervish
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5/12/2007 10:15 PM
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Malu, I am sure you have looked at a map and seen how we have surrounded nations in the region. What many people do not see when looking at the same map is how we can be cut off.
Imagine what happens to our troops in Afghanistan if Pakistan changes sides. Imagine the exits to the Persian Gulf.
Look at the map with a pessismistic eye,and tell me what you see. I don't think India is afraid of Pakistan and vice versa,they have kissed and made up. Even the Indian President is a muslim.
Mushareff is on very thin ice,and so are we.
"Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war"
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When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.
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malu
User ID: 206474
5/12/2007 10:19 PM
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you are preaching to the choir dervish! i have had a bad feeling about this for years,, kind of changes the outlook on iran as well! i bet putin just said "check"
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/12/2007 10:23 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
This is the most urgent, important post I've read here.The stakes are high. Very high for the U.S. in particular. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 234928
5/12/2007 10:30 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
Tough position for Musharraf, if he squeezes the people any harder they will snap, and if he conceeds to them, the American administration will bust his nuts...
Rock and a hard place, but this is what I knew would happen if the U.S tried to get a foothold in Muslim countries...The Paki's know Musharraf is a U.S stooge, but with the U.S active in the reason these people are not only mad, but fighting mad...
I expect radicals to become more radical by the day, the hornets will eventually stir and the whole thing could fall apart...
Something to watch... |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/12/2007 10:35 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
Violence Leaves 27 Dead in Pakistan as Political Crises Worsens
By Benjamin Sand
Islamabad
12 May 2007
At least 27 people have been killed in clashes between pro- and anti-government activists in Pakistan's largest city, Karachi. VOA correspondent Benjamin Sand reports from Islamabad the widespread violence represents a major challenge to President Pervez Musharraf's authority.
Supporters of opposition chant slogans against Pakistan's President Gen. Pervez Musharraf upon arrival of Pakistan's suspended Chief Justice at Karachi airport on Saturday
Supporters of opposition chant slogans against Pakistan's President Gen. Pervez Musharraf upon arrival of Pakistan's suspended Chief Justice at Karachi airport on Saturday
Terrified residents took shelter Saturday as gunfire and other violence swept through the southern port city of Karachi.
Police and witnesses say the fighting began Saturday morning.
Thousands of pro-government activists roamed the city streets as opposition groups attempted to gather to support the country's suspended chief justice, Iftakhar Mohammed Chaudhry.
Pakistani television showed people marching through Karachi streets carrying handguns, assault rifles and flags of a pro-government party. Scores of vehicles were set on fire.
Talat Hussain is the news director for Pakistan's Aaj Television network. Speaking by phone from Karachi he says pro-government gunmen attacked the network's offices after it showed live footage of the violence outside. "This is like a battlefield. There is no law enforcement in sight and bullets are flying all around," he said.
Officials say more than 15,000 police and para-military forces were deployed throughout the city.
The former chief justice spent most of the day stranded inside Karachi's main airport and was ultimately forced to cancel plans to address his supporters.
Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf addressed his own political rally in Islamabad Saturday night, several hours after the situation in Karachi appeared to be improving.
He says he will not impose any emergency restrictions on the country. He says there is no need to take such extreme measures and the country's democracy will continue its course. He said national elections will be held later this year.
Pakistan Musharraf suspended Chaudhry on March 9 over unspecified allegations that he abused his authority.
The move sparked protests around the country and remains one of greatest political crises President Musharraf has faced since he seized power in a 1999 military coup.
His critics say Mr. Musharraf only removed the judge to gain control over the country's judiciary ahead of those planned national elections.
He is expected to seek another five-year presidential term while also remaining the country's military chief, a move his critics say is unconstitutional and subject to challenge in the country's high court.
Opposition parties are demanding the judge either be reinstated or that Mr. Musharraf resign from office.
Neither side has made any move toward compromise and the political standoff shows no signs of lessening.
[link to voanews.com] |
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malu
User ID: 206474
5/12/2007 10:36 PM
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Violent clashes hit Pakistan city
Karachi policeman amid debris after street violence
Roads were blocked by debris after violent clashes
Rival political groups have clashed in Karachi, killing some 34 people and injuring at least 120, in Pakistan's worst political violence in years.
BBC has some good updates
i have family coming tomorrow who are from India, I can't wait to talk to them about this, they still own a home there, and know pakistan well
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 227487
5/12/2007 10:37 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
I hope this piece of trash is hanged on TV for the sake of democracy, we don't care what american position it will lead to, democracy is more important. If you don't want to be killed by everyone, stop meddling and doing illegal wars. |
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King James
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5/12/2007 10:48 PM
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The MSM's silence on this speaks volumes. |
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malu
User ID: 206474
5/12/2007 10:49 PM
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I hope this piece of trash is hanged on TV for the sake of democracy, we don't care what american position it will lead to, democracy is more important. If you don't want to be killed by everyone, stop meddling and doing illegal wars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227487
but but, he's our boy!
i bet what's his name in afghanistan is shitting bricks right now!
all we ever gave a shit about is who is in control of the nukes, we had a special forces team on the ground during their rigged elections, just in case
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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malu
User ID: 206474
5/12/2007 10:51 PM
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the big news of the evening is going to come from india, be interesting to see what they do, i bet troops have been mobilized
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 227866
5/12/2007 10:55 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
yeah and if the whole thing gets ugly then it will be open season on EVERY single muslim in the rest of the world.
Yugoslavia aint nothing compared to what could happen the world over. |
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malu
User ID: 206474
5/12/2007 11:00 PM
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yeah and if the whole thing gets ugly then it will be open season on EVERY single muslim in the rest of the world.
Yugoslavia aint nothing compared to what could happen the world over. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 227866
ok, except for my inlaws, fair warning
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71498
5/12/2007 11:18 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
There probably is a plan for US military to go in Pakistan and secure nukes if things looked dire. It would be on the "request" of Musharraf |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/12/2007 11:19 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
Pakistan have a defense authorization act too? |
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malu
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5/12/2007 11:20 PM
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There probably is a plan for US military to go in Pakistan and secure nukes if things looked dire. It would be on the "request" of Musharraf Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71498
yep, we already rehearsed it more than once,, wish i could find that, but i am ready for bed, be interesting to see how this turns out by morning
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 196275
5/12/2007 11:26 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
I wonder if Bush can pronounce Musharraf?
Who the hell on the US side is responsible for the strategy in this region....and don't say busch |
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malu
User ID: 206474
5/12/2007 11:27 PM
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I wonder if Bush can pronounce Musharraf?
Who the hell on the US side is responsible for the strategy in this region....and don't say busch Quoting: Anonymous Coward 196275
PNAC
and dumbsfield
keep ur eye on india tonight, i am tellin ya
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Fool
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5/12/2007 11:34 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
No one would let Pakistan change... no one... not only india, everyone in the region and the world would do whatever it takes
oh that'd be interesting... full out war if anything happens to pakistan
israel would probably be shitting its pants because then it wouldn't be "they'll soon make nukes" it'll be... "they have nukes" |
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malu
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5/12/2007 11:36 PM
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No one would let Pakistan change... no one... not only india, everyone in the region and the world would do whatever it takes
oh that'd be interesting... full out war if anything happens to pakistan
israel would probably be shitting its pants because then it wouldn't be "they'll soon make nukes" it'll be... "they have nukes" Quoting: Fool 235802
true, but israel has 500 to pakistans 3-4 nukes
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking." |
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Fool
User ID: 235802
5/12/2007 11:40 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
true, but israel has 500 to pakistans 3-4 nukes Quoting: malu
Yes... but 3-4 nukes is more than enough to create a lot of problems
also i thought they had the capability to make 3-4 nukes per year... not just 3-4 nukes total... at least the plutonium they need? I think it's plutonium lol |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/12/2007 11:44 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
No one would let Pakistan change... no one... not only india, everyone in the region and the world would do whatever it takes
oh that'd be interesting... full out war if anything happens to pakistan
israel would probably be shitting its pants because then it wouldn't be "they'll soon make nukes" it'll be... "they have nukes"
true, but israel has 500 to pakistans 3-4 nukes Quoting: malu
Sorry but that's not accurate.
Israel have approximately about 100-200 nukes.
[link to www.nti.org]
Pakistan have 30-50 ready-made nukes.
[link to www.nti.org]
The only other country that have more nukes than Israel is China.
[link to www.nti.org]
China is a much bigger threat to India than Pakistan. That's why China's helping Pakistan. |
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5/12/2007 11:45 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
Lets see, i suspect that if it comes down too it, that not only India has stake here, because apart from the US, both Russia and China have much interest and contact with Pakistan. |
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User ID: 235789
5/12/2007 11:49 PM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
So lets weigh the situation, do Russia or China, want another islamic regime/ Do they want another so called democracy? Does India want either? Musharraf + control and external stability for the time being IMO. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 227487
5/13/2007 12:17 AM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
China is not much helping Pakistan, they are helping India now... it's weird. Maybe China think that in the end India would side with China if it would come against Russia or the US... don't know. |
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mathetes
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5/13/2007 1:29 AM
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Imagine what happens to our troops in Afghanistan if Pakistan changes sides. Imagine the exits to the Persian Gulf. Quoting: Dervish
Pakistan changing sides? Whoever said they are on our side? Sure they give lip sevice because after 9-11 they feared our reaction, but look at the facts on the ground, they supported the Taliban before and still do!
"The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God.
The command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory.
John Quincy Adams |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/13/2007 1:36 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 227487
5/13/2007 2:10 AM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
Rectification, the ISI helped the Talibans, and it's a well know fact that the CIA is behind the ISI on a lot of cases. |
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A World Transformed (NCCCPC)
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5/13/2007 2:49 AM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
Pakistan is going to radical Islam. Al-Qaeda was founded in Pakistan. |
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Anonymous Coward
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5/13/2007 3:47 AM | | Re: Pakistan set to declare state of emergency | Quote |
When the day monkeys stop rulling mankind it's the day where we muslims are bound together once again, i know the history and it's intriques as well as my own hands.
what do you know about islamic spain? do you know what the muslims gave to europe DO you even know about the Islamic Spain- and what etiquette and elevation it brought to the rest of the world, you'r nothing but offspring of decivious and Treacherous peons from europe, who were granted mercy profit and protections, but deceived this great islamic state and conspired with one another to destroy the only civilization, islam chained the cultures of man, but christianity forced their own creed upon the people, islam connected and accepted all 3 monotheistic religions as one, Didt you know all the caliphs of spain where blue eyed white haired men, and when the rest of europes hyenas seeked protection and comfort from other intruders, the muslims sweet their blood to defend the rights of the unbeliver under islamic law. Once this grate ummah (nation) will get connected again. We Muslim whom have tryed, sectarism, democracy, communism, and false goverments, know's in our hearts and mind only islamic law rule us fair, and only islam will give guidance to success we are angry, tirred and hungry, The west has sewn its mortal fate, we shall gather we shall bring justice, and we shall bring security to the mothers and sisters of islam from you heretic and animalistic behaviour your porn soceity shall not infect us with it's parasites, youve slaughtered us, and taken our pride, now we will slaughter you and take you'r pride in islam it's an eye for an eye, and verily vengeance is legal, but forgiveness is greatest, but
the time of forgiveness is over and take heed blood shall be spilled, that is the sadness of you'r wrong doings, alot of the muslims are still peasents in their minds but a fare greater and cultivated and successful ppl are on the movement and knows and have the tools to remove you! with the will of god, victory has been promised by our beloved prophet, he said, there will be a time where the none belivers will flock around you as hyenas, and the muslims influence will be that of the foam of the occean, and victory shall come shortly after, everything that our beloved prophet has said has come to pass! |
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A World Transformed (NCCCPC)
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