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Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal status

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PACNWguy Subscriber
User ID: 60206
United States
5/17/2007 6:50 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Remember who is in control of the house and the senate before you go off blaming Bush again.

:border:
OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY

"I inherated and I am Great!"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 219684
United States
5/17/2007 6:54 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

234670;,what do you mean to their level? you wish you can speak more than one language, we thought that everybody in the world need to speak english, we travel and we want to be serve and speak in english,we were full of it and we treat people like garbage,payback baby.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74029
United States
5/17/2007 6:55 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

it has nothing to do with race/racism those that say it is are to ignorant to realize that only parasites act this way

instead of giving them amnesty give them an ultimatium register to become a citizen or give their asses a shove out the proverbial door 30-60 days tops

americans you have no voice you never did and you never will
Wraith
User ID: 235274
United States
5/17/2007 6:55 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Remember who is in control of the house and the senate before you go off blaming Bush again.

:border:
 Quoting: PACNWguy


1rof1
That pretty much says it all. Maybe the password should be cheap labor?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147938
United States
5/17/2007 6:58 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

For once, I agree with PNACguy

I wrote about US senators a couple of nights ago. I'm going to AGAIN. I got auto response replies from all but one (Sherrod Brown, Dem. Ohio). Here is what his office wrote (notice the busllshit):

"Thank you for contacting me about my views on the current immigration proposals being considered by Congress.

I have supported legislation to curb illegal immigration by increasing criminal penalties for alien smuggling and document fraud, eliminating the use of government documents that are easily forged, and doubling the number of border patrol guards. Better enforcement and tougher penalties for both undocumented immigrants and their lawbreaking employers are the way to fight unauthorized employment, and employment opportunities are what drive illegal immigration.

Unless we fix the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and enforce our own labor laws, we will continue to debate how high the fence should be and how many agents should guard our border – with no real solution in sight. In 1994, the U.S. signed NAFTA, which promised, among other things, to help create a thriving middle class in Mexico. At that time there were 3 million undocumented workers in the U.S.; today there are more than 11 million. In Mexico, 9 million more live in poverty than when NAFTA was enacted. NAFTA has failed the U.S. and Mexico. By creating an atmosphere where Mexican citizens feel they have no chance of a successful life in Mexico, these ill-conceived trade agreements increase the number of illegal immigrants coming into our country.

In addition to addressing the forces that are compelling illegal immigration, we must take action to bring illegal immigrants out of the shadows. While I do not support amnesty and have serious concerns about guest worker programs, I do believe our nation should consider establishing a process by which illegal immigrants can eventually earn citizenship.

The solution to our immigration problem will not be a simple one, as many things in our country need to be fixed to stop illegal immigration. It is time to take a common sense approach to immigration reform. Thank you again for contacting me.


Sincerely,
Sherrod Brown"

MY REPLY:

"This country already takes im more LEGAL immigrants than the entire
world COMBINED. We do not need any more "guest workers". We had a green
card system that worked just fine. ALL illegals need to LEAVE.

There is no such thing as an "undocumented immigrant". These are ILLEGAL
ALIENS, who have broken our laws, and invaded our country. Any other
language is Orwellian-speak. Is someone selling oxycontin, on the
street, an "undocumented pharmacist"? Cut the BS.

Article IV Section 4 US Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a
Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against
Invasion

You took and oath to protect and defend the Constitution. You betray the
American people by doing the bidding of illegal alien criminals and the
businesses who hire them. We The People do not want to support Mexico or
it's citizens. No amnesty, no "comprehensive immigration reform", no
compromises, NO KIDDING. We EXPECT you to uphold your oath of office,
and your duty to US citizens. DO NOT PASS THIS LEGISLATION."



PLEASE WRITE EVERY US SENATOR [link to www.senate.gov]

It might take a couple of hours, but it's our country on the line (not to mention our economy).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 98686
United States
5/17/2007 6:58 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

sample letter to congress/senate...


I now hear that the Senate has approved a new deal for immigration “reform” that will legalize millions of illegal immigrants. As I have written before, I do not approve of legalizing people who have entered the US by criminal means. These immigrants are stressing our criminal justice and health care system to the breaking point. Further, every child they have here will be a legal US citizen…. Equal in rights to my own children!!! Their population will grow geometrically as they do not practice birth control. First 20 million, Then 80 million then 320 million!!! It is already crowded in our cities. I implore you… take immediate action to defeat this legislation and save our country!!!

I do not care if your corporate “masters” want cheap labor. One day these new “peasants” will tear down the gates of your “secure compounds” and drag you and your family into the streets….. of course me and my family will be gone long before then… as we cannot afford “Blackwater” security forces to watch our backs.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88541
United States
5/17/2007 7:11 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

In a few decades, the Spanish language will dominate the western hemisphere... judging by the hispanic birth rate. English will be the monority.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 200681
United States
5/17/2007 7:19 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Give the illegals a gun and a canteen and send them to Iraq to fight so that they can become an American Patriot!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 233486
United States
5/17/2007 7:24 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Whenever you see Republicans and Democrats working together on an issue that one or both of them would logically oppose, you know you are looking at an issue near and dear to the heart of the Illuminati.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147938
United States
5/17/2007 7:28 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

sample letter to congress/senate...


I now hear that the Senate has approved a new deal for immigration “reform” that will legalize millions of illegal immigrants. As I have written before, I do not approve of legalizing people who have entered the US by criminal means. These immigrants are stressing our criminal justice and health care system to the breaking point. Further, every child they have here will be a legal US citizen…. Equal in rights to my own children!!! Their population will grow geometrically as they do not practice birth control. First 20 million, Then 80 million then 320 million!!! It is already crowded in our cities. I implore you… take immediate action to defeat this legislation and save our country!!!

I do not care if your corporate “masters” want cheap labor. One day these new “peasants” will tear down the gates of your “secure compounds” and drag you and your family into the streets….. of course me and my family will be gone long before then… as we cannot afford “Blackwater” security forces to watch our backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98686


That is a freaking awsome letter! Next, send it (revised) to every house member.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147938
United States
5/17/2007 7:29 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Whenever you see Republicans and Democrats working together on an issue that one or both of them would logically oppose, you know you are looking at an issue near and dear to the heart of the Illuminati.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 233486


Two parties, ONE New World Order.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147938
United States
5/17/2007 7:30 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Give the illegals a gun and a canteen and send them to Iraq to fight so that they can become an American Patriot!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 200681


How about illegals staying here must all be sterilized
malu
User ID: 206474
United States
5/17/2007 7:35 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

after reading the bill, i came to the conclusion that if i were an illegal, i would give up hope of ever becoming a legal resident, who has five thousand dollars , especially when making minimum wages, and then you have to return to your native country , well that would suck, that is why they left in the first place
at first glance i was pissed at the headline, but i doubt that more than a few thousand will actually become legals under this bill
now, what are we going to do with the remaining millions and millions of illegals?
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
malu
User ID: 206474
United States
5/17/2007 7:40 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

after further reading, my initial instincts may have been correct, if it is, well, it is time for a civil war:

May 17th, 2007 - Washington, D.C. - Today, U.S. Senator DeMint made the following statement:

"I hope we don't take a thousand page bill written in secret and try to ram it through the Senate in a few days. This is a very important issue for America and we need time to debate it."

"But the little we do know about the bill is troubling. According to reports, the bill contains a new 'Z Visa' that allows those who entered our country illegally to stay here permanently without ever returning home. This rewards people who broke the law with permanent legal status, and puts them ahead of millions of law-abiding immigrants waiting to come to America. I don't care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty."
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 98686
United States
5/17/2007 7:43 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Every child they have while they are here, legally or illegally is now a new US citizen with rights equal to ours.... this is the real danger... we will be replaced by Mexicans, and these Mexicans will not be interested in maintaining our American values... just recreating a more properous Mexico here in our country....
mj-13
User ID: 238226
United States
5/17/2007 7:47 PM
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If all the talk of a new "American Union" is real, not to mention all of the legislative preparations for it like NAFTA and a "proposed" Amero currency, how is any of this a surprise? Eventually, the borders will cease to exist. Am I the only one out here that is seeing this picture unfold? Yeah, things are crazy and this sh*t is only going to get worse.
askakido nli
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 7:49 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Every child they have while they are here, legally or illegally is now a new US citizen with rights equal to ours.... this is the real danger... we will be replaced by Mexicans, and these Mexicans will not be interested in maintaining our American values... just recreating a more properous Mexico here in our country....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98686



If you have a problem with "Anchor Babies" as you seem to have, realize please that the "lovely" 14th Amendment would have to be repealed in order to change the Anchor Baby thing. This is a very important fact and concept that very few have spoken about, the 14th Amendment and the fact that it would have to be either repealed or itself amended. The point is that anyother way of changing this other than a Constitutional Amendment would itself be UnConstitutional.

The reality of the "14th Nervous Breakdown" is beginning to break upon the shores of the US Citizen's consciousness.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88541
United States
5/17/2007 7:50 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Every child they have while they are here, legally or illegally is now a new US citizen with rights equal to ours.... this is the real danger... we will be replaced by Mexicans, and these Mexicans will not be interested in maintaining our American values... just recreating a more properous Mexico here in our country....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98686

Eventually, the US will drop down to about the level of Mexico... reaching that point will accelerate when they gain majority status and wield real political power.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 233959
United States
5/17/2007 7:50 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

burn the consulates down

comprende?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 233959
United States
5/17/2007 7:53 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

Bush is a traitor.

We have got to get these establishment morons out of there or this country will be completely wrecked:

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 90848

and Kennedy???
malu
User ID: 206474
United States
5/17/2007 7:53 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

If all the talk of a new "American Union" is real, not to mention all of the legislative preparations for it like NAFTA and a "proposed" Amero currency, how is any of this a surprise? Eventually, the borders will cease to exist. Am I the only one out here that is seeing this picture unfold? Yeah, things are crazy and this sh*t is only going to get worse.
 Quoting: mj-13



jesus christ! you are fucking right, this is all happening way to fast, talk about winning the battle without a shot being fired! well, i can't say what i really feel about this whole fucking mess, and i can't blame the illegals either, those bastards sold us out

i envision them, some rope, and light poles
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
askakido nli
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 7:56 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

after reading the bill, i came to the conclusion that if i were an illegal, i would give up hope of ever becoming a legal resident, who has five thousand dollars , especially when making minimum wages, and then you have to return to your native country , well that would suck, that is why they left in the first place at first glance i was pissed at the headline, but i doubt that more than a few thousand will actually become legals under this bill now, what are we going to do with the remaining millions and millions of illegals?
 Quoting: malu



Malu, I totally agree with you. This will simply drive a very high percentage of illegal aliens even deeper underground, it will greatly increase the amount of ID Thief as well as well as ID Fraud.

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Article IV Section 4 US Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, AND SHALL PROTECT EACH (STATE) AGAINST INVASION.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 232999
United States
5/17/2007 7:58 PM
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North American Inland Ports Network (NAIPN)

INTRODUCTION

NAIPN is a working group in North America's SuperCorridor Coalition (NASCO). NAIPN advocates the interests of Inland Ports along the Mid-Continent International Trade and Transportation Corridor (MCITTC) and supports NASCO's mission to strengthen the Secure, Multi-Modal Trade and Transportation System.

[link to www.nascocorridor.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 8:04 PM
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As soon as anyone has a text of this bill or "deal" please post it here or at least link here to the text of it, so we can all look at it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 8:10 PM
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Tancredo is on Paula Zahn CNN right now and is saying that the deal says the $5,000 fine + fee CAN BE WAIVED?

wtf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 8:10 PM
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Looks to me like Tancredo is definitely against this. And I know that Duncan Hunter is against it big time. Not all of the Republicans are on board with this, at least three GOP Presidential candidates are completely against this.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 8:13 PM
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There is currently NO CAP on H2A guest workers Visas, these are the ones that work in Agriculture, so the whole line about "no one to pick the grapes and produce and work in the fields" without this Deal or New Immigration bill is so much crap and "lipstick on a pig".

This deal has got to die and die a quick death.

And yes we can jail 12 million, we already have millions of US Citizens in jail....
malu
User ID: 206474
United States
5/17/2007 8:15 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

take a look:

[link to thomas.loc.gov]

i believe this is the latest version of the bill as it was agreed upon today
When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.

"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 211548
Mexico
5/17/2007 8:15 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES
PLEASE DRIVE CAREFULLY

GEORGE W. BUSH
PRESIDENT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 218511

WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES
PLEASE CAREFUL WITH RACIST , EVERY CORNER

GEORGE W. BUSH
PRESIDENT
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173374
United States
5/17/2007 8:19 PM
Re: Breaking: Deal Struck on Immigration Bill; millions of illegals will get legal statusQuote

take a look:

[link to thomas.loc.gov]

i believe this is the latest version of the bill as it was agreed upon today
 Quoting: malu


Erroring out on me, Malu.
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