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Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.

 
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05/18/2007 01:56 PM
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Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
I have had several cats over the last few years all have suddenly fell very very i'll, and subsequently died a few days later. The vet says its a very rare virus that was last seen in the 1980s. But i am very sceptical of this and i think its a cover for the fact that he dosent want to admit, which is that the cat was poisoned probably by a toxic plant.
Previous to this i had a cat that lived at the same house for 11 years so i know its not any plants from my house.
I will get to the point after this information.

Here are certain plants, trees and shrubs that can cause your cat to vomit, become dehydrated and have diarrhea. Sometimes when a cat ingests a toxic plant, they can foam at the mouth or have excessive drooling followed by a be needy to drink lots of water. Their mouth can become red and irritated. In extreme cases, a cat can fall into a coma and die.
Outdoor plants can also pose generally of the same risks and some of the indoor plants. Symptoms can include, but are not limited to diarrhea, vomiting, dehydration, pain, and weakness, breathing difficulties and seizures and convulsions. Some of these plants and shrubs include larkspur, skunkweed, daffodils, foxglove, castor bean, almond plants, wild cherry, English holly, spinach, rhubarb, Jasmine, and pigweed. Other plants that can cause your cat to experience hallucinations include marijuana, nutmeg, peyote, and morning glories.


I have a strong suspicion that sadistic self-centred miserable selfish grumpy old neighbours that think their precious garden is far too important for any cat to do its business in, purposely grow these toxic plants to poison the poor helpless cats.

Now were there is a will there is a way, i must think of a way to counter this problem, so that i can bring up my next cat in a safe environment.

I just cant think of what to do, other than issue threats or letters to all neighbours stating that if i find out they have been poisoning my cats, they will A will have the RSPCA around to investigate and B i will personally see to it that they are punished for their crime.


What else can i do to stop this heartless poisoning of domestic cats. its not just my cats that have such short life spans around here, its all of them. By the way the recent cats have died within their first few weeks of playing and doing their business outside after i trained them to stop using the litter tray.

Sadistic replies will be ignored, but if there are any cat lovers out there that can help please respond.
Thankyou.
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05/18/2007 02:08 PM
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
You don't have much of a case if your cat is in your neighbor's yard, eating the plants that are growing there.
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05/18/2007 02:10 PM
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
Keep it inside and teach it to use a litter box
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
"Other plants that can cause your cat to experience hallucinations include marijuana, nutmeg, peyote, and morning glories."

will write these down...for my cats of course...will do about anything to make them happy.

keep your cat(s) in your own yard to do their business in. you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
"Other plants that can cause your cat to experience hallucinations include marijuana, nutmeg, peyote, and morning glories."

will write these down...for my cats of course...will do about anything to make them happy.

keep your cat(s) in your own yard to do their business in. you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98835

A. its crule to confine cats to the house because they are naturally outdoor loving animals.

B. its preposterous to suggest that i could somehow confine my cats to my own yard as they can scale fences with ease etc.

C. Cats are one of the cleanest animals and the only thing thats happening to the neighbours precious flower bed is that its getting fertilized, not to mention that they also cover it back over with soil.


Punk ass bitch!
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keep your pets at your own house.

A. its crule to confine cats to the house because they are naturally outdoor loving animals.

B. its preposterous to suggest that i could somehow confine my cats to my own yard as they can scale fences with ease etc.

C. Cats are one of the cleanest animals and the only thing thats happening to the neighbours precious flower bed is that its getting fertilized, not to mention that they also cover it back over with soil.


Punk ass bitch!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238461

another whiner.
you want to be a good neighbor?
A. keep your cats in your house. keep your cats in your yard. it's up to you to figure out how to do it.
B. i'm sure as nice as your turd leavers cover up their crap...it's not a pleasant thing to reach into if you're working in your neighbors garden.
C. it's their flower garden and they probably do not like your dumb cats crap in it.
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Punk ass bitch!
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YOU sounds like an asshole.

I can't grow daffodils of spinach because YOU think YOUR cat should be able to shit in MY garden and it might eat something in MY yard that makes it sick?

Get a clue!
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
keep your pets at your own house.

A. its crule to confine cats to the house because they are naturally outdoor loving animals.

B. its preposterous to suggest that i could somehow confine my cats to my own yard as they can scale fences with ease etc.

C. Cats are one of the cleanest animals and the only thing thats happening to the neighbours precious flower bed is that its getting fertilized, not to mention that they also cover it back over with soil.


Punk ass bitch!

another whiner.
you want to be a good neighbor?
A. keep your cats in your house. keep your cats in your yard. it's up to you to figure out how to do it.
B. i'm sure as nice as your turd leavers cover up their crap...it's not a pleasant thing to reach into if you're working in your neighbors garden.
C. it's their flower garden and they probably do not like your dumb cats crap in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98835

what do you think fertilizer is made from???

They have no right to poison animals and such poisoning will be taken very seriously by the animal protection RSPCA!

you just the example of the miserable old fucks that think their precious garden is more important than animals such as cats.

Punk ass bitch mother fucker.
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Punk ass bitch!


YOU sounds like an asshole.

I can't grow daffodils of spinach because YOU think YOUR cat should be able to shit in MY garden and it might eat something in MY yard that makes it sick?

Get a clue!
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i'll shove daffodildows of spinach up your ass! bitch!
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
"Other plants that can cause your cat to experience hallucinations include marijuana, nutmeg, peyote, and morning glories."

will write these down...for my cats of course...will do about anything to make them happy.

keep your cat(s) in your own yard to do their business in. you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house.

A. its crule to confine cats to the house because they are naturally outdoor loving animals.

B. its preposterous to suggest that i could somehow confine my cats to my own yard as they can scale fences with ease etc.

C. Cats are one of the cleanest animals and the only thing thats happening to the neighbours precious flower bed is that its getting fertilized, not to mention that they also cover it back over with soil.


Punk ass bitch!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238461


It is a lot more cruel to let a cat roam outside and be a victim of other animals, or run over by a car or abused by idiots in the neighborhood or suffering from the effects of weather. I have 4 very happy healthy cats who are indoor animals and they love it just fine.

Stop being such an idiot and clean up your language.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
My cat tried the outdoors once and hated it.
I agree that cats do like to cat around outside. Especially Toms.

It's the nature of the cat.

If the cities had a real problems with it then there would be cat's on leash laws. But as far as that goes, there's only the spay and neuter your cat law.

If any neighbors have problems with a cat eating the prize gardenias, then take it up with the owner and don't kill the animal.

And if the cat is crapping or pissing in the garden then if it's neutered or spayed, be happy, your plants will grow brilliantly and you'll have some pretty little mushrooms to add to that.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
i rove cat. my restaraunt serve kitty to arr our customer. your kitty in my spinach i put your kitty on my prate.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
"Other plants that can cause your cat to experience hallucinations include marijuana, nutmeg, peyote, and morning glories."

will write these down...for my cats of course...will do about anything to make them happy.

keep your cat(s) in your own yard to do their business in. you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house.

A. its crule to confine cats to the house because they are naturally outdoor loving animals.

B. its preposterous to suggest that i could somehow confine my cats to my own yard as they can scale fences with ease etc.

C. Cats are one of the cleanest animals and the only thing thats happening to the neighbours precious flower bed is that its getting fertilized, not to mention that they also cover it back over with soil.


Punk ass bitch!


It is a lot more cruel to let a cat roam outside and be a victim of other animals, or run over by a car or abused by idiots in the neighborhood or suffering from the effects of weather. I have 4 very happy healthy cats who are indoor animals and they love it just fine.

Stop being such an idiot and clean up your language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225554

Get real, i feel sorry for your cats not being allowed in their natural habitat. suffering the effects of weather, geeze what next.
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05/18/2007 02:36 PM
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
another whiner.
you want to be a good neighbor?
A. keep your cats in your house. keep your cats in your yard. it's up to you to figure out how to do it.
B. i'm sure as nice as your turd leavers cover up their crap...it's not a pleasant thing to reach into if you're working in your neighbors garden.
C. it's their flower garden and they probably do not like your dumb cats crap in it.

what do you think fertilizer is made from???

They have no right to poison animals and such poisoning will be taken very seriously by the animal protection RSPCA!

you just the example of the miserable old fucks that think their precious garden is more important than animals such as cats.

Punk ass bitch mother fucker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238461

fertilizer is made from "sterilized" compose/soil. not some mangy cats crap.

they have a right to grow whatever they want (long as it's legal) in their gardens and you don't have the power to change that.

i'm not miserable, nor old and love animals. have a few cats myself (if you'd have not been so rude you may have noticed) so know what a good neighbor should do with their cats.

love you too sweety.
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05/18/2007 02:40 PM
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
I think it is not plants. It is Aspirin wrapped in chicken or other cat food. Most plants are not eaten by my cats anyway? Could your cats have been poisened op?
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"you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house."

yea riiight, like that comment of yours was not supposed to wind me up.
sod off.

Sterilized compost. lol whatever next, you really are a moron!
do you realize what is sprayed onto the crops that goes into a vast majority of foods that you eat???
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
I think it is not plants. It is Aspirin wrapped in chicken or other cat food. Most plants are not eaten by my cats anyway? Could your cats have been poisened op?
 Quoting: Super Structure nli 238614

yes quite possibly. Because the geriatrics's think their precious garden is too important. Theres no neighbours that would poison the cats for any other reason. just their pathetic gardens, and as if a cat can do harm to a garden, they live in harmony with it.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
Euthanize the cats and self.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
I think it is not plants. It is Aspirin wrapped in chicken or other cat food. Most plants are not eaten by my cats anyway? Could your cats have been poisened op?

yes quite possibly. Because the geriatrics's think their precious garden is too important. Theres no neighbours that would poison the cats for any other reason. just their pathetic gardens, and as if a cat can do harm to a garden, they live in harmony with it.
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If you have any clues as to who is killing your pets you should report them as it is illegal. RSPCA if you are in UK? Not sure in USA
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
"you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house."

yea riiight, like that comment of yours was not supposed to wind me up.
sod off.

Sterilized compost. lol whatever next, you really are a moron!
do you realize what is sprayed onto the crops that goes into a vast majority of foods that you eat???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238461

you wind yourself up. i can do nothing to you that you do not allow yourself.
make my own compost and that goes into the foods i eat as i grow my own.
compost heats to such a temperature that bad junk is burned off and only the very best of nature's resources remains. good compost...that means...no cat or dog crap allowed.

can't say what goes into what you eat.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
yes quite possibly. Because the geriatrics's think their precious garden is too important. Theres no neighbours that would poison the cats for any other reason. just their pathetic gardens, and as if a cat can do harm to a garden, they live in harmony with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238461

what part don't you get about keeping your bloody cats in your own yard and out of your neighbors gardens?
if your bloody cats die...you've none but yourself to blame you know. letting them crap all over your neighbors flowerbeds.

did you tell your neighbor which plants could kill your cats? if you did you're not real bright there and if not you cannot put blame on them.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
"you're an impolite/uncaring neighbor and you should be glad you're not mine.

keep your pets at your own house."

yea riiight, like that comment of yours was not supposed to wind me up.
sod off.

Sterilized compost. lol whatever next, you really are a moron!
do you realize what is sprayed onto the crops that goes into a vast majority of foods that you eat???

you wind yourself up. i can do nothing to you that you do not allow yourself.
make my own compost and that goes into the foods i eat as i grow my own.
compost heats to such a temperature that bad junk is burned off and only the very best of nature's resources remains. good compost...that means...no cat or dog crap allowed.

can't say what goes into what you eat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 98835

you don't understand. you can spray your garden with pig shit and elephant dung if you want, the food will still be completely edible, it does not affect it, its nothing but carbon and minerals broken down by bacteria.
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Iím not sure if thereís much use trying to get through to a self-centered, selfish, irresponsible, moronic pet owner such as yourself but Iím going to give it my best. Let me know if Iím going too fast for you.

First and foremost, nobody else loves your cat as much as you do and how dare you expect them to and how dare you assume they donít mind caring for them just because you donít feel like it. Pet owners always say their pets are as important to them as their children or any other family member. Just for fun letís pretend weíre talking about your 2-year-old daughter.

In the event you are unaware, there are people in the world who like to hurt children and do very bad things to them. Thereís no explaining this behavior and it canít be changed. And short of incarceration or death it cannot be stopped. Itís always happened and itís always going to happen.

This fact puts the burden on YOU to be responsible. Thatís a no-brainer and something you should already know unless youíre only two years old yourself and if thatís the case, youíre a pretty good typist for a two-year-old. Lifeís rough, get a helmet.

Do you simply shoo your children out the door every day because caring for them yourself is just too much trouble? Do you hope they can find something to eat or drink in the event you canít locate them when you have to leave the house? Are you proud they shit all over the neighborhood? I suppose that would certainly save on diapers and the nasty task of changing them yourself. Lazy asshole. Would you be okay with other people allowing their children to shit in your fridge? How delightful a world that would be.

Do you even worry they could be hit by a vehicle, raped or murdered? Apparently not or you would not be practicing this behavior. If your child was constantly in my yard behaving in a less than sociable acceptable manner youíre damn right I would be at your door with said child by the collar wondering who the hell is responsible for raising such a barbarian. When that didnít work (knowing full well it wouldnít if the child was doing this in the first place) I would then be forced to go to the authorities. Then you could go cry to the media or another forum wondering why they got taken away from you or even worse had their life taken from them.

Do us all a favor, donít have any children and donít get any more pets. You obviously just donít get it. And I would maybe calm down on the garden thing. When your local grocery store has nothing left but tainted and poisoned food you just may be needing those neighbors and their precious gardens. Personally Iíd let you starve.
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Re: Solution to stop people poisoning my cats with deadly garden plants.
yes quite possibly. Because the geriatrics's think their precious garden is too important. Theres no neighbours that would poison the cats for any other reason. just their pathetic gardens, and as if a cat can do harm to a garden, they live in harmony with it.

what part don't you get about keeping your bloody cats in your own yard and out of your neighbors gardens?
if your bloody cats die...you've none but yourself to blame you know. letting them crap all over your neighbors flowerbeds.

did you tell your neighbor which plants could kill your cats? if you did you're not real bright there and if not you cannot put blame on them.
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I think you are my neighbour! your going to pay for this. you poisoned my cats!
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The vet says its a very rare virus that was last seen in the 1980s. But i am very sceptical of this and i think its a cover for the fact that he dosent want to admit, which is that the cat was poisoned probably by a toxic plant.


Sadistic replies will be ignored, but if there are any cat lovers out there that can help please respond.
Thankyou.
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Why bother going to that vet if you don't believe what it says?
How about another opinion?

Assmuning your neigbors are poisoning your cat is pretty weak.

No need to be mean to people for pointing out the facts.

You can't be mad at people for planting spinach.
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no cat or dog crap allowed.



you don't understand. you can spray your garden with pig shit and elephant dung if you want, the food will still be completely edible, it does not affect it, its nothing but carbon and minerals broken down by bacteria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238461

you don't understand. when working in my garden(s) i will not allow any cat or dog crap.

tell you what. plant a bloody flower garden yourself and allow your cats to crap in it. see what you think about it the next time you need to run your hands through the garden or kneel in the crap. come back and complain then.

right o?
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I think the OP should be reported for being cruel to animals.
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I think you are my neighbour! your going to pay for this. you poisoned my cats!
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surely you're not making some sort of threat on the internet are you sweety? your neighbor calls you sweety too?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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"Do you simply shoo your children out the door every day because caring for them yourself is just too much trouble? Do you hope they can find something to eat or drink in the event you canít locate them when you have to leave the house? Are you proud they shit all over the neighborhood? I suppose that would certainly save on diapers and the nasty task of changing them yourself. Lazy asshole. Would you be okay with other people allowing their children to shit in your fridge? How delightful a world that would be."

you obviously don't have the slightest clue about the capabilities of a cat taking care of its self out here in the countryside, their is abundant food supply in the form of rabbits, mice, birds and insects, not to mention shelter and the fact that it can come inside for free cat food if it wants, they dont need somebody to take it round on a leash and wipe its ass, which im sure you would probably try and do.
Now as for the shitting, if it was a fucking dog that just takes a steaming turd in the middle of the patio and leaves it to fester then its an entirely different matter.
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Your cats eat plants? Other than catnip (catmint)and the occasional grass for helping to cough up furballs, I thought cats only eat meat.

No Dog or Cat Feces in the Garden
Keep dog and cat droppings out of your garden and compost pile. While many animal manures make valuable soil amendments, parasites carried in dog and cat feces can cause diseases in humans. (Their fleas also carry diseases harmful to humans)

Dog and cat droppings often contain roundworms and other parasitic nematodes. Gardeners can ingest roundworm eggs from soil contaminated with dog or cat feces. Contaminated soil often is carried to the mouth by dirty hands, especially among young children, or the edible parts of fruits and vegetables. Infection by just a few roundworms usually causes no problems, but more severe infections may cause fevers, bronchitis, asthma, or vision problems.

Another concern with cat feces is toxoplasmosis, a parasite that infects humans and other animals. Of all creatures, only cats are known to excrete oocysts--a form of the parasite that can survive in the environment for years and is resistant to most disinfectants.

Toxoplasmosis is a serious concern for pregnant women, persons with AIDS, and patients receiving immunosuppressive treatments. Most others who contract toxoplasmosis exhibit mild symptoms, such as headaches, muscle aches, swollen lymph nodes, or sore throats. Humans become infected with toxoplasmosis primarily by injesting contaminated food and water. Gardens are a secondary source of infection. Roundworms and toxoplasmosis need not deter you from gardening.

The following precautions will minimize your chances of contracting either:

Don't add dog or cat feces to your compost pile or garden soil.
Keep pets from using your vegetable garden as a toilet. Laying 1-inch mesh chicken fencing over the vegetable bed usually deters pets but allows vegetables to grow up through it.
Regularly clean up and dispose of dog and cat droppings.
Treat your dogs and cats for roundworms.
Never feed your cats uncooked meat or bones. Most cats become infected with toxoplasmosis by eating tissues of infected animals, including birds and small mammals.
Wash vegetables and fruits thoroughly before eating.
Wear gloves while gardening.
Wash your hands thoroughly after handling soil.
For more information about these diseases, contact your local health department.

Source: the Gardener, Vol 7 No. 2, Summer 1996, Van Bobbitt, community horticulture coordinator, WSU Puyallup

For further infomation contact your local Cooperative Extension Office.

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