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The Cross, Ancient Symbolism and What it Means As it Pertains to the “11” Phenomenon

 
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The Cross, Ancient Symbolism and What it Means
As it Pertains to the “11” Phenomenon


Have you ever read a book on ancient symbolism? If not, you should, as contained therein are the vast majority of answers offered as to the thinking of men since the beginning of time. If you have not, I suggest the book “Symbols, Sex and the Stars” by Ernest Busenbark sold on Jordan Maxwell’s site.

It’s an older book, printed around 1949, in which the author takes the time to educate the reader as to his findings in regard to the many ancient societies, their symbols and how they viewed them. Now, although I do not agree with many of the conclusions drawn by the author as to the “whys” of the adoptions of these symbols, the author nonetheless does a stellar job of informing the reader as to their findings at the many dig sites over the decades.

Keeping these things in mind as they pertain to my understanding of the ancient Hebrew texts along with the Kolbrin and other associated ancient writings, I will now make an attempt to explain the usage of these symbols as they relate to some of the pertinent issues surrounding the more prominent in today’s society.

And since I am not writing yet another book of the entirety of this topic I am offering some personal insight as to what I personally see as “making sense” in regard to how they are used in some of the ancient images and why they would be used that way today.

So, having said all that, let’s start with the basics, 0 and 1, or 0 and I if you prefer.

Now 0 is kind of simple and IMO states the ongoing cycle of life as well the eternal non-cycle in regard to the presentation of that which greatly concerns spirits, bodies. As you will notice, the whole meme of eternal life has never concerned itself with spirits as they have always been the assumed constant eternal entity, whether they spend their time embodied in the bliss of heaven or non-bodied torments of hell. (depending upon whom you care to listen to) So, let’s all face facts, when it comes to bodies, mortal or eternal, I think we can all come to grips as from whence they come, right?

Now, interestingly, that brings us to the symbol 1, and in many ways that’s where many accounts diverge and the “11” phenomenon begins. For example, let’s take the number “10”. We could say that this symbol represents the side by side forces of male and female, and in that we would be correct. And as many know who have taken the time to look, there are more manifestations of this notion than can be contained in a single book.

But, here’s where “mystery” begins as “1” also denotes the complete man/woman, regardless of gender. For how else does one denote the “complete” man/woman but with the singular expression of completeness, “1”? One……cannot. (a little Saxon humor)

So, having said that, then what exactly might “11” mean in the big scheme of things? Well, depending upon whom you might care to listen to there are many views as to such. The Occult crowd considers this number to be “bad”, or “infernal”, the number of the “dead”. But then again, since that crowd is nothing more than a sock puppet crowd for their “god” Lucifer (hey, call bad boy what you like, K?), then one can reasonably expect such ruminations to reflect the “wisdom” of that same “god”.

What we DO know, is that indeed the Occult crowd DOES have a really BIG issue with “11” as they openly proved such with their world wide open sacrificial show on 9/11 in which the largest “sacrifice” “11” in the world was brought to the ground in flames. But, as many have wondered, why? What exactly IS their beef with this symbol? Or more pointedly, what is their “gods” beef with this symbol? And THAT, is the purpose of this writing.

Let’s take a look at another nifty all pervasive utility of these two “1s”, the cross (Tau), T

Have you ever wondered what in the world the Tau is all about? I know I have over the years, especially after finally figuring out that the whole “Jesus the Christ” and dying on crosses is nothing more than mythological conjecture fabricated by the Occultist crowd as exoteric lying to keep the masses in line. With that in mind then, what exactly do the images of the “Christ prior” to Jesus (one of 50 over the millennia) Quetzalcoatl, then mean where he is shown donning a “white robe” embossed with multitudes of “red crosses” or “red Taus”?

In straight Gnostic fashion, this symbolically then is supposed to denote white, the color of maleness and purity blazoned with red penises. Now, the stories allege that indeed Quetzalcoatl was homosexual (as is Lucifer), but IMO, this in no way tells the story of what is being said with such. You see, from Lucifer’s perspective, there’s a real POWER reason behind what is being said with this and that image is more about those looking upon this image than about who the image is upon, if you get my drift.

So, to put this all in perspective, let’s make this short and sweet, namely, the Occultists LOVE this:

“T” (the crossing of two “1s”, i.e. the “crossing” or dividing/conquering of Twin Flame sets)

While DESPISING this:

“11” (the side by side standing of two “1s”, i.e. Twin Flame sets)

And likewise, this constant 11:11 imaging that everyone is seeing is being driven by the dramatic increase of the presence of such Twin Flame types into this arena although obviously rarely seen.

Therefore, IMO, the reason for the great open world wide sacrifice on 9/11, (9 being the very forces bringing Twin Flames to fruition) was to throw a wrench into the phenomenon which they knew was rising.

As well, the reason for all that “white purity” is about replacing the True developmental motives of God’s children here with that of “holiness”, the great neutralizer of spiritual development here on Earth. Holiness is like many of the desired attributes hoped to be properly balanced here within the framework of Earthly struggles, but as a whole focus, the same is like parking one’s tractor in a pristine garage in which to continually polish the same tractor while avoiding the fields as “bad”.

Therefore, with such in mind, the very wardrobe of Quetzalcoatl is in reality the ULTIMATE in spirit developmental blockage, the “crossing” of Twin Flame potentials, the “dividing and conquering” of the spirits of God’s children racked upon the impossible wholly unbalanced expectation of “holiness”, a fabricated torturous existence in which Real Love is continually neutralized with the purposed confusion of developing young spirits. THIS is what the new movie “The Fountain” is really about, the “Grigori”, the fallen who are being unwittingly held here by the very same “god” they venerate.

This same meme is plastered around the world as a subconscious driver utilized by both the governmental and religious flares of the fleur-de-lis proffered by the third, media.

So, from Lucifer’s perspective, the way to power was the same as the way to keep power, the constant separation of eternal Twin Flames and their consequent subservience to him here in confusion. Therein is the meaning of Babylon, the confusion and the cross which continue the rule of Lucifer.

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Hey!!!

Where's the Saxon fan club? hf
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So, having said that, then what exactly might “11” mean in the big scheme of things? Well, depending upon whom you might care to listen to there are many views as to such. The Occult crowd considers this number to be “bad”, or “infernal”, the number of the “dead”. But then again, since that crowd is nothing more than a sock puppet crowd for their “god” Lucifer (hey, call bad boy what you like, K?), then one can reasonably expect such ruminations to reflect the “wisdom” of that same “god”.


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Why do you suppose occultists fear the number 11? Do you think it's because it represents GOD or followers of GOD in some way?
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Neo was in room 11. I associated the number as meaning two opposed. Maybe not. The twin flame theory makes sense to me, although most people haven't been ready for that experience.
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Neo was in room 11. I associated the number as meaning two opposed. Maybe not. The twin flame theory makes sense to me, although most people haven't been ready for that experience.
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I tend to think of 11 as the number of the completion of a cycle and a signal
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great speculation indeed, thx Saxon
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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So, to put this all in perspective, let’s make this short and sweet, namely, the Occultists LOVE this:

“T” (the crossing of two “1s”, i.e. the “crossing” or dividing/conquering of Twin Flame sets)

While DESPISING this:

“11” (the side by side standing of two “1s”, i.e. Twin Flame sets)

And likewise, this constant 11:11 imaging that everyone is seeing is being driven by the dramatic increase of the presence of such Twin Flame types into this arena although obviously rarely seen.

Therefore, IMO, the reason for the great open world wide sacrifice on 9/11, (9 being the very forces bringing Twin Flames to fruition) was to throw a wrench into the phenomenon which they knew was rising.
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So WHY did they build them (WTC Towers) in the first place?
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So, having said that, then what exactly might “11” mean in the big scheme of things? Well, depending upon whom you might care to listen to there are many views as to such. The Occult crowd considers this number to be “bad”, or “infernal”, the number of the “dead”. But then again, since that crowd is nothing more than a sock puppet crowd for their “god” Lucifer (hey, call bad boy what you like, K?), then one can reasonably expect such ruminations to reflect the “wisdom” of that same “god”.





Why do you suppose occultists fear the number 11? Do you think it's because it represents GOD or followers of GOD in some way?
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Because "divide and conquer" is ultimately manifested between the eternal relationships of Twin Flames. It is THERE that the rebellion was originated.
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11 END PROGRAM 11
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Neo was in room 11. I associated the number as meaning two opposed. Maybe not. The twin flame theory makes sense to me, although most people haven't been ready for that experience.
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Very True as each of the "pillars" of the Twin Flame pair (Think Boaz and Jachin here as that is what is "captive" in the Roselyn Chapel in Scotland, held captive by the "twelve" pillars of their zodiac manipulations)must be fully developed to the status of the "1" prior to unification.

By definition, being this the spiritual day care that it is, most here are not even close to reaching this point of maturity.
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great speculation indeed, thx Saxon
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TY hf
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So, to put this all in perspective, let’s make this short and sweet, namely, the Occultists LOVE this:

“T” (the crossing of two “1s”, i.e. the “crossing” or dividing/conquering of Twin Flame sets)

While DESPISING this:

“11” (the side by side standing of two “1s”, i.e. Twin Flame sets)

And likewise, this constant 11:11 imaging that everyone is seeing is being driven by the dramatic increase of the presence of such Twin Flame types into this arena although obviously rarely seen.

Therefore, IMO, the reason for the great open world wide sacrifice on 9/11, (9 being the very forces bringing Twin Flames to fruition) was to throw a wrench into the phenomenon which they knew was rising.



So WHY did they build them (WTC Towers) in the first place?
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For the same reason they raise sacrificial lambs.
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11 END PROGRAM 11
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Yes, end the Divine Program as ALL things are focused to those ends through the Children of our Creator.

For this reason is this "meme" hated and targeted to the point of being fully erased from all ancient texts with the exception of but a small few.
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you also need to look up #22 in the RUNES.. which the REPTILES FOLLOW..

however, there was a thread in here awhile ago that dealth with the PILLARS OF HERCULES.. REMEMBER?

as example one of my dragonslayers STUART was sent there.. from BRITAIN.. to GIBRALTOR

think kiddies

the family BLOODLINERS ARE WORKING THEIR RUNES>>>

ah ho WIO
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you also need to look up #22 in the RUNES.. which the REPTILES FOLLOW..

however, there was a thread in here awhile ago that dealth with the PILLARS OF HERCULES.. REMEMBER?

as example one of my dragonslayers STUART was sent there.. from BRITAIN.. to GIBRALTOR

think kiddies

the family BLOODLINERS ARE WORKING THEIR RUNES>>>

ah ho WIO
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True, but they fail to realize that they are now outside the "window" of effectiveness for the same.

They are now worshippers groveling at the feet of "gods" who have left them for their own ends. They are all about to discover WHY Real Love is so important.

It'll be a nice lesson for them all.
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Bump for the thinking.
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Bump for MORE thinking. hf
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And likewise, this constant 11:11 imaging that everyone is seeing is being driven by the dramatic increase of the presence of such Twin Flame types into this arena although obviously rarely seen.


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Here's where I beg to differ. People don't glance at the clock at 11:11 more than they do any other configuration of numbers on the clock. People only notice 11:11 because it's an easily-recognizable pattern which can't occur in any other way with the four digits on the clock (excepting military time, of course).

What I'm saying is that people look at the clock and see 7:54, 3:20, and 10:05 just as much as they see 11:11 but don't see any significance in it, unless any of those number combinations have a personal connection, such as if a person was born on October 5 he might be more cognizant of every time he sees the clock at 10:05.

Glancing at the clock is a completely random event and there is no significance whatsover to seeing 11:11


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God, according to the Bible created the world by sounding (speaking) it into existence. This can reasonably be considered to have been done with the musical notes do, re, mi, fa, sol, la. There are a certain number of vibrations for each note and the difference, as you go up the musical scale, is in multiples of 11.

I don't remember which is which without looking it up, but there are 11 vibrations between a certain two of the notes, then 22 vibrations between that and the next note, then 33, then 44, ...

Sunspot cycles are also 11 years apart, and one of the Mayan writers has it figured that astrological based birth forecasts should actually be based on time of conception, rather than birth, as being the proper "beginning" relative to the 11-year sunspot cycle.
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And likewise, this constant 11:11 imaging that everyone is seeing is being driven by the dramatic increase of the presence of such Twin Flame types into this arena although obviously rarely seen.




Here's where I beg to differ. People don't glance at the clock at 11:11 more than they do any other configuration of numbers on the clock. People only notice 11:11 because it's an easily-recognizable pattern which can't occur in any other way with the four digits on the clock (excepting military time, of course).

What I'm saying is that people look at the clock and see 7:54, 3:20, and 10:05 just as much as they see 11:11 but don't see any significance in it, unless any of those number combinations have a personal connection, such as if a person was born on October 5 he might be more cognizant of every time he sees the clock at 10:05.

Glancing at the clock is a completely random event and there is no significance whatsover to seeing 11:11


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robots connect with nothing... this is why the separation will occur shortly. People when seeing numbers of significance do not automatically see them on clocks. That said, it is not even like which you describe. People are prompted to look, it is like being tapped on the shoulder. If you don’t understand the feeling then you do not understand, simple really.
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God, according to the Bible created the world by sounding (speaking) it into existence. This can reasonably be considered to have been done with the musical notes do, re, mi, fa, sol, la. There are a certain number of vibrations for each note and the difference, as you go up the musical scale, is in multiples of 11.

I don't remember which is which without looking it up, but there are 11 vibrations between a certain two of the notes, then 22 vibrations between that and the next note, then 33, then 44, ...

Sunspot cycles are also 11 years apart, and one of the Mayan writers has it figured that astrological based birth forecasts should actually be based on time of conception, rather than birth, as being the proper "beginning" relative to the 11-year sunspot cycle.
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Wouldn't it be nice if the Bible were NOT but a FreeMasonic crafted Exoteric device for the enslavement of the masses?

Please, take that work with a LARGE grain of salt, K? hf
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this is a great thread and more are needed
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Nothing of what you wrote come from you, you're disillusioned and worship false beliefs, you will burn in hell for spreading satanic non-sense





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