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The Coming Military Draft American Men and Women age 18-42

 
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The Coming Military Draft Will Mean Compulsory Induction of
American Men and Women age 18-42

From Ken Adachi
[link to educate-yourself.org]
January 10, 2007

I posted a new addition to www.educate-yourself.org in February of 2004 titled the Military Draft and stated in the very first sentence of my commentary that a renewed military draft was coming soon and that the age of compulsory service would be extended from its former limit of 26 years, up to 42 years of age (initially decided to be 44 years, but then changed to 42 years), and will include BOTH men and women. I wish I had kept the chiding and derogatory e-mails that I had gotten from a dozen or so people who were so upset and outraged that I should suggest such a thing, as there was "no chance", they said, of bringing back the draft "because it wasn't needed or necessary." How "irresponsible" it was of me to create such "alarm" and "needlessly scare" people. I "should be ashamed of myself" was the typical sign off (in case any of those original chiders might be reading these words, this would be a good time to send me a note of apology-if you retain a sense of responsibility, that is).

I will post in another article the entire draft bill that was put forward by House of Rockefeller representative Congressman Charles Rangle (D-NY) , a proud member of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission since 1990, but in the paragraph below, note that the Rangle/ (House of Rockefeller) bill states in plain English that the new draft will "require all persons" between the age of 18 and 42 years to perform "national service" in either the uniformed military or civilian service sector. That means that all American women will now be drafted right along with men, irrespective of whether they are mothers, housewives, office workers, burger flippers, college students, or recent high school graduates.

Never in the 231 year history of the United States of America has the government ever attempted to require compulsory military service of women, yet this new draft bill does precisely that.

When and where, my fellow Americans, did we have a national debate about this incredible and fundamental change to the requirements of a military draft?

When did the American PEOPLE agree that their daughter and wives would now be drafted into the military?

The debate, of course, never took place and the American people had not been given the opportunity to voice their approval or opposition to this profound change. The wording for the bill was worked out by unseen NWO minions, unconcerned about the will of the American people and then quietly inserted within the body of this proposed "legislation" introduced into the House by an obedient Trilateral servant of the One World government Machiavellians.

It's one thing for a woman to decide to join the Military Meat Grinder of her own volition, but it's an entirely different story to have the women of this country inducted into compulsory military service. I realize that government apologists and brain washed flag wavers will retort that only men engage in hand to hand combat, but realize that the lines are evaporating and that woman are now functioning as combat pilots, etc. American service women are also dying and becoming severely injured (physically and psychologically) in Iraq and in Afghanistan because that's what happens when you find yourself in a no-holds-barred war zone.

If you are a mother or father under 42 years of age, it's entirely possible that you and your children will be drafted into the military.

We used to have a national slogan that reminded us that "The Family that Prays Together, Stays Together" Now, we're going to have to re-arrange that a bit to accomodate the new imperative. How about "The Family that Gets Drafted Together, Disintegrates Together"?

It's time to organize on the local level and initiate Recall and Impeachment drives against those legislators, like Rangle, who are frontline warriors for the Destroy America/ One World government House of Rockefeller planners. ..Ken Adachi


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The Universal National Service Act of 2007 (HR.393)
[link to thomas.loc.gov]

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 10, 2007

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make permanent the favorable treatment afforded combat pay under the earned income tax credit, and for other purposes.

Full text of Rangle's draft bill found here along with a great article by Michael Chossudovsky
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]

[link to www.libertyforum.org]
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this passes...

i don't think they have enough prisons to house everyone..
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The bill needs to give priority conscriptment to spawn of chickenhawks.
Give the parents of such spawn a meager tax break and long lines will form to sign on the dotted line.
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they will LITERALLY have to kill me first.
im deadly serious.

force ME to go to war?
i wont allow it to happen to me or my family.

im sure im not the only one who feels a draft is completely wrong and evil.
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they will LITERALLY have to kill me first.
im deadly serious.

force ME to go to war?
i wont allow it to happen to me or my family.

im sure im not the only one who feels a draft is completely wrong and evil.
 Quoting: robin


I’d serve my country if anyone ever tried invading, no question, you really have little choice it that circumstance… but that is never going to happen. For ships full of Chinese soldiers to cross the required oceans … ha, sub’s, carrier battle groups, and long range stand-off weapons would send them to the bottom of the ocean before they get anywhere near shore. Unless someone allowed it to happen, it could not happen.

To go to war in “the gap” … for some leeching MIC scumbag and his kiddy-fiddling banker buddy… never happen. I would kill to avoid going.

And women… yeah can you imagine giving your daughter over to the military…. Bawhahaha, if you know that I’d kill to avoid going myself imagine what I’d do to prevent a daughter from going…
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What would happen if everybody refuse to go???

Yes. Peace on earth.
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The bill needs to give priority conscriptment to spawn of chickenhawks.
Give the parents of such spawn a meager tax break and long lines will form to sign on the dotted line.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 240781

There is much truth to that. I am amazed that the most pro-war, pro-draft people are the parents of virtuous, peaceful, intelligent teenage sons. Do such parents realize the message they are sending to their fine children?
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How many of you remember the vietnam veterants???

I remember in the 80' seeing young veterants without legs or arms, Drunk or on the pill, selling flower in street corner down in Florida. I saw a generation of good man with no more faith in live. I saw vietnam veterants crying like babies at a convention down in Marathon. But none of you remember those years. You did'nt learn from the past. So let your children become the next wietnam veterans. And be blessed by god.
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Well, I did my part in 'Nam, not it's the turn of you babies to go fight while I cheer from the home front.
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Well, I did my part in 'Nam, now it's the turn of you babies to go fight while I cheer from the home front.
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Rangel is trying to make a point with this bill. He doesn't expect it to pass. This is the point he is trying to make:

The soldiers fighting the current war in Iraq are predominantly people from low income backgrounds. The children of wealthy people are not fighting the war. The children of wealthy people (and wealthy people in general) have not had to make sacrifices to fight the war in Iraq in particular, or the war on terrorism in general. The heavy lifting has been done by less priviledged people.

Thirty years from now, some man or woman is going to be running for President, and questions are going to be asked about why that person did not fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. That person is going to answer "I had other things to do at the time." (In case that doesn't sound familiar, that is exactly how Dick Cheyney answered a similar question about why he didn't server in Vietnam.)

Rangel's bill is intented to point out the disparity in sacrifice that is occurring in this country with regard to this war. Poor people are serving and dying - wealthy people are getting the benefits of tax breaks.
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Rangel is trying to make a point with this bill. He doesn't expect it to pass. This is the point he is trying to make:

The soldiers fighting the current war in Iraq are predominantly people from low income backgrounds. The children of wealthy people are not fighting the war. The children of wealthy people (and wealthy people in general) have not had to make sacrifices to fight the war in Iraq in particular, or the war on terrorism in general. The heavy lifting has been done by less priviledged people.

Thirty years from now, some man or woman is going to be running for President, and questions are going to be asked about why that person did not fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. That person is going to answer "I had other things to do at the time." (In case that doesn't sound familiar, that is exactly how Dick Cheyney answered a similar question about why he didn't server in Vietnam.)

Rangel's bill is intented to point out the disparity in sacrifice that is occurring in this country with regard to this war. Poor people are serving and dying - wealthy people are getting the benefits of tax breaks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373


You don't know anything. While the lowest enlisted ranks are full of people that might have been poor when they joined, the military members are not poor. Most join for the lifestyle, they like the idea of a structured environment, and the care that is given. ALL of the officer corp are college grads, many of the higher enlisted ranks have college grads or have attended college.

Rangel thinks that because the military has more blacks by percentage than the regular population, that means the military is taking advantage of the blacks. It's the other way around. Rangel and his people (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton) can't get anything for the blacks, so they join the military to have a more equal chance of making something out of themselves.

So, dipshit, stop talking out of your ass. I was in the USAF for 10 years, my son was a tanker in the Army, my daughter is currently serving in the Marines. We are ALL college grads, and not poor. We do it out of a sense of loyalty for our country, and a desire to serve.

Now, bite me.
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Loyalty for our country???????
Desire to serve = desire to kill
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Loyalty for our country???????
Desire to serve = desire to kill
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I know, these are concepts that you are incapable of understanding. Don't worry though, there are others that do, and they will handle to burden for you. That's the "serve" part, something else you don't get.
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serving in this so called war is still voluntary......it doesnt have anything to do with rich or poor..you want to do something constructive? call the president and tell him we want out of this "game"
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serving in this so called war is still voluntary......it doesnt have anything to do with rich or poor..you want to do something constructive? call the president and tell him we want out of this "game"
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See, if you really understood what is at stake here, you wouldn't call it a game.
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they will LITERALLY have to kill me first.
im deadly serious.

force ME to go to war?
i wont allow it to happen to me or my family.

im sure im not the only one who feels a draft is completely wrong and evil.
 Quoting: robin



Same here.
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I got it long time ago. I did my military service but I did'nt went crasy with it. And I did'nt let them brainwashe me. If you realy want to serve. Get rid of your stupid president and by the way save your kids.
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they will LITERALLY have to kill me first.
im deadly serious.

force ME to go to war?
i wont allow it to happen to me or my family.

im sure im not the only one who feels a draft is completely wrong and evil.
 Quoting: robin


Not me.

I would enlist, take the free training and the rifle, let them ship me over there and do one of two things...

I would wait until my battalion was sleeping, suit up and wipe as many of them out as possible before they killed me.

Or I would wait until I was close enough to the enemy to turncoat and join forces with them against my own country.

It's the only way I could live with myself.

What we are doing is wrong, and democracy is gone now...(if we ever really had it)...and I am coming to realize that WE are "the bad guys"...

WE are the terrorists.

I will not fight on the same side as terrorists.
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669

You are a real patriot. Good for you. This country need more peoples like you.
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People should be willing and proud to serve their country, their people and their constitution.

But that does not include the 'government', corporate interests or 'foreign' interests.
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Rangel is trying to make a point with this bill. He doesn't expect it to pass. This is the point he is trying to make:

The soldiers fighting the current war in Iraq are predominantly people from low income backgrounds. The children of wealthy people are not fighting the war. The children of wealthy people (and wealthy people in general) have not had to make sacrifices to fight the war in Iraq in particular, or the war on terrorism in general. The heavy lifting has been done by less priviledged people.

Thirty years from now, some man or woman is going to be running for President, and questions are going to be asked about why that person did not fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. That person is going to answer "I had other things to do at the time." (In case that doesn't sound familiar, that is exactly how Dick Cheyney answered a similar question about why he didn't server in Vietnam.)

Rangel's bill is intented to point out the disparity in sacrifice that is occurring in this country with regard to this war. Poor people are serving and dying - wealthy people are getting the benefits of tax breaks.


You don't know anything. While the lowest enlisted ranks are full of people that might have been poor when they joined, the military members are not poor. Most join for the lifestyle, they like the idea of a structured environment, and the care that is given. ALL of the officer corp are college grads, many of the higher enlisted ranks have college grads or have attended college.

Rangel thinks that because the military has more blacks by percentage than the regular population, that means the military is taking advantage of the blacks. It's the other way around. Rangel and his people (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton) can't get anything for the blacks, so they join the military to have a more equal chance of making something out of themselves.

So, dipshit, stop talking out of your ass. I was in the USAF for 10 years, my son was a tanker in the Army, my daughter is currently serving in the Marines. We are ALL college grads, and not poor. We do it out of a sense of loyalty for our country, and a desire to serve.

Now, bite me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 240104


Your claims would be a lot more credible if you used civil language.

Your individual circumstance does not affect the validity of Rangel's reasoning. No doubt there are some wealthy people in the military. But it is very unlikely that the child of a wealthy person will join the military. (College education has nothing to do with the argument.)

You may be familiar with the situation in the military, but I am (I think) a lot more familiar with the attitudes of wealthy people than you are. I work with them every day, and the possiblity of their children having to serve in the military never crosses their minds.

That may seem fair to you, but it doesn't seem fair to me. In addition, we would be a lot less likely to get ourselves involved in senseless wars (which seems to be the case with Iraq) if the children of the campaign donors were being put at risk.
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Fuck the draft.

If they come to grab Americans to fight the New World Orders wars, defenders of this republic will send back a volley of hot lead at the jackbooted thugs regardless of what uniform they're wearing; local cops, U.S. Military or U.N Troops.

DRAFT = SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION

militia
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Fuck the draft.

If they come to grab Americans to fight the New World Orders wars, defenders of this republic will send back a volley of hot lead at the jackbooted thugs regardless of what uniform they're wearing; local cops, U.S. Military or U.N Troops.

DRAFT = SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION

militia
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You might not want to do your share, but I think that the situation would end up like it was in the 60s - most people would grumble, some people would protest, all but a few would serve.

In my view, one thing is certain - with a draft, the war in Iraq would be over a lot sooner.
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Will NEVER happen...
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Will NEVER happen...
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That is obvious. If the volunteer military can't do the job, the job will change.
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they will LITERALLY have to kill me first.
im deadly serious.

force ME to go to war?
i wont allow it to happen to me or my family.

im sure im not the only one who feels a draft is completely wrong and evil.



Same here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 191784


It is slavery, plain and simple
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They need those illegals to build the N. American Union infrastructure because all young men and women will be gone. Welcome to fascism.
Well America, are you pissed off enough yet?
Turn off your T.V.'s, throw away the bottle of prozac and get busy.
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PS... OP, you might add that 'cost of the war' is already being paid by the same americans who both fight on the front lines of the war and the burger flipper... who by the way might actually do better with a M16 carbine then a grease gun... ha ha, but seriously the real problem is EVERY american will be paying lots of money towards the military expenses forever, (at least while living and then 'W's' taxes will revert back to older rates and crush the remaining middle class heros who are too old to fight... why do you think gasoline prices are soo high?? The lion share of the price sits in the TAX catagory... guess where your tax money goes?? yup, you guessed it, to buy more bullets and weapons to kill ....
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you military hero’s *cough* wanna see how the flags laugh at you behind your back?

Here watch Tommy “I’m a fucking tool” Barrrrrrnet talking about, no make that laughing about, NEVER bringing the troops home.

Goes something like “when the folks back home ask ‘when are we bringing the boys home?’ we tell them, NEVER!” … and then they all laugh and laugh.

This cunt, ‘cause that’s what it is, offers up his nine year old son to the marines—and in jest or not, that is a real funny joke.

[link to video.google.com]

grab the four parts… part 2 seems to be lurking on page two for me. Watch this shit, see how straight up this guy is… dumb as two short ones, but still, he tires I guess.
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Rangel is trying to make a point with this bill. He doesn't expect it to pass. This is the point he is trying to make:

The soldiers fighting the current war in Iraq are predominantly people from low income backgrounds. The children of wealthy people are not fighting the war. The children of wealthy people (and wealthy people in general) have not had to make sacrifices to fight the war in Iraq in particular, or the war on terrorism in general. The heavy lifting has been done by less priviledged people.

Thirty years from now, some man or woman is going to be running for President, and questions are going to be asked about why that person did not fight in Iraq or Afghanistan. That person is going to answer "I had other things to do at the time." (In case that doesn't sound familiar, that is exactly how Dick Cheyney answered a similar question about why he didn't server in Vietnam.)

Rangel's bill is intented to point out the disparity in sacrifice that is occurring in this country with regard to this war. Poor people are serving and dying - wealthy people are getting the benefits of tax breaks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373


EXACTLY!

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