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I met Hitler in 1967

 
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it's true what they say.. the truth really is stranger than fiction.
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I wish more people would divulge their fascinating secrets before they pass over.
Regarding Hitler, he hated his own race. Nothing could have motivated him so much except something he was trying to murder internally, his own flesh. I know many Jewish race-deniers. They're obsessed with hatred for themselves.
I believe, if there is a God, he surely gave Hitler the amazing power to erect a nation founded on hatred which smites the whole world yet today with unparalleled hatred which is his Legacy/nightmare.
But again, if you go to Israel, you won't find a nicer place filled with nicer people and a more beautiful land. Everything about Hitler, the jewish people and Israel is surreal.
Hitler will go down in history as an important figure such as Caesar or Jesus Christ or Napoleon.
But through all those deaths and world tumult, God's work was done by a most vile man, the creation of a lightening rod nation that would fulfill the end times prophecies. Whomever this God really is, he sure likes a bath in blood from us humans.
I believe you OP. Why not. Of course what you're telling us is the truth. Thanks for your story.
Are you afraid to pass over? How long do you have? What do you think you'll find on the other side?
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Israel is the light unto the nations.

God has already shown us what happens when you blame the jewish people for your own problems. He doesn't show us something twice.
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On the outskirts of Ascension, Paraguay.

I was working as a junior rep for an oil company at the time and I was on leave for two weeks, just bumming around Uruguay and Paraguay, and one of the guys I knew at Procter & Gamble said I should come up and meet him at this dinner party they were having and prepare to have my mind blown.

Hitler was one of the nicest guys I ever met. He was very frail at the time but his English and his manners were perfect. He kept asking me about my favorite hobby (photography) and he said he would give me an old Leica he had, which he would send on to me at my main address in Montevideo. Never arrived though.

I have no idea when he died. 1970 in Argentina, rumor has it.

Thought you might like to know .... Just an oldie on his way out with cancer making a small internet confession before the curtain drops. :-)
 Quoting: Nym 246272


Wake up. Hitler was already terminally ill in 1945. Without morphium he could not even get up in the morning.
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Novo livro sobre fuga de Hitler para América do Sul é plágio, garante jornalista argentino

De acordo com jornalista Abel Basti, livro recém-lançado por dois autores britânicos é uma compilação não-autorizada de seus livros

20/10/2011

Marcelo Netto Rodrigues
de São Paulo

Livro de autor britânico é acusado de plágio por jornalista argentino que pesquisa sobre a fuga de Hitler há 20 anos

O livro “Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler”, dos britânicos Gerrard Williams e Simon Dunstan, lançado no início deste mês, é um plágio. “Trata-se de uma cópia dos meus livros 'Hitler en Argentina' (2006) e 'El exílio de Hitler' (2010)”, denuncia Abel Basti, jornalista argentino que há 20 anos investiga a fuga de Hitler, de seu bunker em Berlim, em 1945, e a sua estadia por mais 25 anos na América do Sul.

“Eles [os autores] vieram até a Argentina e levaram os meus dados. Eu lhes dei acesso a testemunhas e a documentos”, recorda Basti ao explicar que Gerrard Williams assinou um contrato com ele em 2007 – que acabou rescendido em 2009 – para a produção de um livro e de um filme.

“Eu já havia entregado a Williams toda a investigação publicada em meus livros, quando num determinado momento, ele me informou que a crise econômica de 2008 tinha afetado o projeto e que o mesmo não teria como ter uma continuidade porque os investidores haviam desistido. E agora, ele publica um livro junto com Dunstan, assumindo como se fossem deles as minhas investigações.”

Como os livros de Basti até o momento só foram publicados em espanhol e alemão (apesar do interesse de editoras brasileiras em publicá-los também em português), o plágio tende a passar desapercebido aos leitores de língua inglesa. “Nesse sentido, abri um processo por plágio contra a editora do livro, a Sterling Publishing, e em breve intimarei os dois autores britânicos.”

“Grey Wolf” refaz o mesmo argumento que Basti defende há anos: o de que Hitler teria chegado à costa da Patagônia argentina após semanas de viagem dentro de um submarino, e de lá teria se refugiado na estância “San Ramón”, no sopé dos Andes, próximo a Bariloche. Os britânicos “inovam” apenas quando apresentam uma data exata da morte do Führer, aos 73 anos (refutada por Basti e por outros pesquisadores): 13 de fevereiro de 1962. E ao falarem da existência de duas filhas dele com Eva Braun (e não de um menino e uma menina como sustenta o jornalista argentino).

Aqui neste link (em inglês) é possível encontrar o processo que Abel Basti move contra os autores britânicos: [link to www.barilochenazi.com.ar]

Nada (nem tão) novo no front
Apesar do alvoroço em torno do lançamento desse novo livro, a tese de que Adolf Hitler não se suicidou em 30 de abril de 1945 no seu bunker em Berlim não é nova. Nunca houve um corpo reconhecido oficialmente como sendo o de Hitler (apenas os de inúmeros sósias deixados para trás pelos próprios hierarcas nazistas, além do fragmento de um crânio que acaba de se descobrir não ser dele). Mais do que isso, documentos e jornais da época registram que Stálin sabia que o Führer havia escapado e “teria se refugiado na Espanha ou na Argentina”, literalmente de acordo com as suas palavras.

Fora isso, o serviço de inteligência dos Estados Unidos também tinha (tem) ciência da fuga, tanto é que o FBI possui informes sobre as andanças de Hitler até 1971. Por sua vez, a própria Alemanha só veio a considerar Hitler morto em 1955, dez anos após o seu suposto suicídio. Comenta-se até mesmo que Israel e o seu serviço secreto, o Mossad, assim como o Centro Wiesenthal, também tinham conhecimento do escape, mas que por serem todos financiados pelos Estados Unidos (que teriam traído os soviéticos e acobertado a fuga de Hitler em troca de cientistas capazes de transformar a bomba atômica uma realidade) não tinham muito o que fazer.

DNA
O fato é que desde 2009, a história que sempre é contada como piada ganhou contornos reais graças aos avanços da ciência e a um documentário do Discovery Channel. Um exame de DNA constatou que o fragmento de crânio mantido por anos escondido pelos soviéticos como sendo uma das únicas provas irrefutáveis do cadáver de Hitler mostrou-se ser o crânio de uma jovem mulher.



Capa do livro de Basti publicado em 2010

Desde então, o assunto tem sido levado a sério e as portas que podem levar à constatação de que o mundo foi enganado por mais de 60 anos estão escancaradas. Como analisa Basti: “Há 20 anos, quando comecei a investigar o assunto, me chamavam de louco. Agora, as coisas estão mais fáceis. Mais cedo ou mais tarde a verdade virá à tona ou por meio de documentos oficiais que comecem a ser desclassificados ou por meio de descendentes de pessoas que sabem de toda a história, mas que por fama ou em busca de dinheiro vão começar a falar, mostrar fotografias. Digo isso porque verdades como essas normalmente só aparecem depois que as pessoas envolvidas já estão mortas”.

Terra brasilis
Nos livros de Basti publicados até o momento, o Brasil é citado em poucos trechos, como quando Hitler teria visitado o país por várias vezes para ouvir uma pianista tcheca que ele apreciava muito. Ou quando, de acordo com um informe do FBI, ele esteve com Eva Braun no Rio Grande do Sul, em 1947, em um balneário chamado Casino, perto da cidade de Rio Grande.

Para preencher essa lacuna, planeja-se a publicação de seus livros em português, com um capítulo sobre o Brasil, já que novos testemunhos afirmam que Hitler também teria vivido por dez anos no Sul do país, com o anuência do governo de Getúlio Vargas e de Eurico Gaspar Dutra. Há inclusive um testemunho sobre a presença dele em Curitiba, em 1948.

Outra informação que o livro trará diz respeito à data de morte de Hitler. Diferentemente do que afirmam os autores britânicos de que o Führer morreu em 1962 e do que sustenta Mariano Llano, jornalista paraguaio especialista na presença de nazistas na América do Sul, de que a sua morte teria ocorrido em 1974, a edição brasileira do livro de Basti, acrescida desse capítulo sobre o Brasil, trará em detalhes o depoimento de uma nova testemunha que garante que Hitler morreu, aos 81 anos, em 5 de fevereiro de 1971 (exatamente o ano em que o FBI encerrou o “caso Hitler”), e que seu corpo foi enterrado numa cripta subterrânea, em um bunker construído em um país sul-americano.

A hipótese da morte em 1971 torna-se bastante crível já que desconhecendo essa informação, no início deste ano, um famoso ator uruguaio, Carlos Perciavalle, disse em uma entrevista a uma rádio que ao chegar a um jantar em Bariloche, em 1970, junto com outra atriz uruguaia, China Zorrilla, encontrou Adolf Hitler entre os convidados. E que soubera mais tarde que Hitler estava naquela época vivendo seis meses na Argentina e seis meses no Chile.

Vale ressaltar que Bariloche (onde reside Abel Basti) fica apenas a 13 horas por terra da Colônia Dignidade, um agrupamento declaradamente nazista fundado em 1961, no Chile. Pesa ainda contra a data de morte oferecida pelos autores britânicos o testemunho de um ex-funcionário de uma empresa de petróleo que afirma ter participado de um jantar com a presença de Hitler, em 1967, nos arredores da capital do Paraguai, Assunção – algo que, segundo ele, já não surpreendia ninguém pois a cúpula militar do governo paraguaio, liderado pelo ditador Alfredo Strossner (filho de um alemão da Baviera, Estado colado à cidade austríaca natal de Hitler), e os latifundiários daquele país tinham o Führer como convidado de honra em várias ocasiões análogas.

Quem estiver interessado no tema ou quiser contribuir com dados ou informações sobre a vida de Hitler depois da guerra no Brasil ou em outro país, é possível visitar a página mantida por Basti, www.hitlerargentina.com.ar . O jornalista lembra que grande parte de suas investigações surge da interação com leitores que se comunicam com ele.

Neste link é possível ver o documentário sobre o crânio da Discovery Channel em inglês:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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On the outskirts of Ascension, Paraguay.

I was working as a junior rep for an oil company at the time and I was on leave for two weeks, just bumming around Uruguay and Paraguay, and one of the guys I knew at Procter & Gamble said I should come up and meet him at this dinner party they were having and prepare to have my mind blown.

Hitler was one of the nicest guys I ever met. He was very frail at the time but his English and his manners were perfect. He kept asking me about my favorite hobby (photography) and he said he would give me an old Leica he had, which he would send on to me at my main address in Montevideo. Never arrived though.

I have no idea when he died. 1970 in Argentina, rumor has it.

Thought you might like to know .... Just an oldie on his way out with cancer making a small internet confession before the curtain drops. :-)
 Quoting: Nym 246272


Wake up. Hitler was already terminally ill in 1945. Without morphium he could not even get up in the morning.
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


There were a lot of nazis in Paraguay at that time and Hitler could have been one of them.

But I too am very skeptical that he would have lived that long.
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...Hitler was one of the nicest guys I ever met...
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I don’t have even a slightest doubt you really met him; he was reknown by his kindness compassion and modesty.

bushhitler
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I saw Hitler yesterday at Lidl
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op, have you noticed how angela merkel's facial features are strikingly similar to adolph's?
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bump for intrigue.
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Adolf Hitler died in 1945.

Maybe this guy in 1967 was a lookalike or relative.
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Easily possible, the believe any sort of mainstream history at face value (such as he commit suicide in the bunker) is like believing every man in prison when he says "I'm innocent." Too many motives to believe the stories at face value.


Therefore, if the rest of mainstream history is any indicator its more likely he DID NOT commit suicide.

Additionally, all throughout history overthrown leaders have been allowed to live in exile, like European Kings, or Napoleon, etc. Many of the people we think have been killed in recent times, likely were not, such as Saddam, and perhaps even Ghadaffi (especially since it was a fake death photo they released). Once these pawns have played their parts, there's no real use in killing them, they can be shipped off to live their lives after completing their mission and playing their role in the movie of life.

People like Hitler must be made to appear dead because of the people who hated / adored him. They have to move history forward and having some of these people openly alive still wouldn't allow history to move forward.

We all need to remember that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Hitler, whether we believe the holiecaust story or not, was fighting what he believed was a just war, and in wars there are casualties. Many people adore Roosevelt, even though in one decision he incinerated tens of thousands of people in the flash of a second, a literal HOLOCAUST. Oh, but adoring him is ok because hsitory was written by the west? Right..

The FBI even recently declassified that they had reports that hitler had fled to South America and had survived, so this story is really not that "out there" and seems to all line up fairly well.
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Good background information! Gotta love GLP!
Always in the eye of the storm!
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Oh,I am sure he was a real sweetheart!
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I met a guy at a nightclub in Philadelphia once who looked just like Albert Einstein. But that didn't make him Einstein.
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But was your "Einstein" feted like royalty?

Until the day I die, I'll always ask myself if it was for real or if the guy was a look-a-like, and I guess I'll never know the answer to that question.

The only thing I had to go on is intuition -- and, boy, were all my senses fully awake! I knew, immediately and without the slightest doubt that the gentleman who spoke to me and who squeezed my shoulder was Hitler. I can't prove it, and I never will. But I just knew it.
 Quoting: Nym 246272


This may look like one of the wilder claims on this site, but I believe you OP. To anyone saying he was a double, why would they do this?

As I've found most of the things I've learned to be false, it makes me re-think His-story. Thinking about how the Nazis were technologically advanced, it makes you wonder why we "actually" had to stop them.
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There were numerous well-funded nazi hunters that tracked down some high ranking nazis all over the world after the war, surely if he did survive it would be far too much of a big secret to share with just a casual visitor. Sounds like crap to me.
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Thanks OP.

This sounds genuine and feels very believable.

Cheers
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Figures.
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What REALLY makes me think this is BS, is that Hitler was NEVER a touchy-feely guy. How many times do you ever see him touch anyone in the old b & w films? Besides he had a disease even before he escaped Berlin which made him VERY shaky in the hands, that's why he kept his hands in his pockets in the later photos, and even held his left hand with his right so as to not reveal that he couldn't remain still. He was a sick man on lots of meds even at that time. I NEVER believed the hokey story about burning the bodies for a moment, even as a child. They would never have obscured the remains in that manner. He would have been a token prize.
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It's true. He played all the Hitler roles, in all the movies they made about Nazis. You were just fooled to think they were actors! He died recently though. That was him playing himself in Inglorious Bastards. They really shot him.
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Ya I met Hitler too in tel Aviv

We had a good old chat and laugh over McDonalds.

Fun y story though. As soon as we sat down he said "where's the forks?" I said "there wasn't any, you eat with your hands", he then said "where's the plates?" I replied "there's none you just est it on cardboard.

After a while he then said, "where's the napkins", I said "that there wasn't any and you just had to lick your fihpngers"

He then peered over at counter where the sign said "McDonalds". He tutted and said "McDonalds, thought so. Typical bloody Scotsman."

We laughed had some wine and performed buttsex in front of the log fire
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On the outskirts of Ascension, Paraguay.

I was working as a junior rep for an oil company at the time and I was on leave for two weeks, just bumming around Uruguay and Paraguay, and one of the guys I knew at Procter & Gamble said I should come up and meet him at this dinner party they were having and prepare to have my mind blown.

Hitler was one of the nicest guys I ever met. He was very frail at the time but his English and his manners were perfect. He kept asking me about my favorite hobby (photography) and he said he would give me an old Leica he had, which he would send on to me at my main address in Montevideo. Never arrived though.

I have no idea when he died. 1970 in Argentina, rumor has it.

Thought you might like to know .... Just an oldie on his way out with cancer making a small internet confession before the curtain drops. :-)
 Quoting: Nym 246272



Hello Nym, are you still around? I'm from Paraguay and I have a few questions for you. Thank you.
What?
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Book says Hitler was exiled to Argentina and surnamed Kirchner

[link to translate.google.com.pe]

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