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The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan? And wouldn't these be hybrids? And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel? Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.

Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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They were all destroyed in the flood.
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serpent seed is false teaching
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The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

“Yes. They are later called Kenites – son’s of Cain.”



Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan?

“It is possible but the Bible does address this.”

And wouldn't these be hybrids?

“There were hybrids (Nephilim) from the moment children were born of these unions.”


And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel?

“Well, Yes and No. Satan was not a fallen angel as the others were. He was a cherub, and they are somewhat different than angels. But yes, Cain was a ‘hybrid’ and though the Bible does not say, there is historical evidence that Cain was very large. Do a search on ‘sargon the magnificent’. Or better yet, buy the book by that name.”


Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

“I would not call fallen angels ‘extraterrestrial’. It puts a connotation on them that is not right.”

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

“Nephilim was the offspring of any union between the fallen angels and human women. Period.”

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.


Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

“Hope this helps”.
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false teachings never make sense
be glad of that
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why don't you post the exact scripture
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nothing far from the true...
ENKI= Our Creator the serpent is his symbol (used now for medicine)
Enlil= God the one who hate us.. the one who lie to us... the one wanted to destroy us.. the one who rise this madness on the world and the one who was so upset the serpent help us that trow us out of paradise and create an artificial adversity between the Serpent and his descendant's and Eve and its descendants...
History has been writing for the ones in power... and you can not say that the good guys are in power.
All religions lie they where only created to manipulate us.
  Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Nephilim means "fallen angels" Go to www.shepherdschapel.com and go to the library and you can get all the info you need on that subject and much more
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Nephilim means "fallen angels" Go to www.shepherdschapel.com and go to the library and you can get all the info you need on that subject and much more
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Since when does shepherd's chapel have a library?

When I go there - I can't find one.


Please post a 'library' link.
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They were all destroyed in the flood.
[link to www.biblelight.net]
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Praise The Holy Of Holy ::They showed up again in the land God promised the Jews::Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. :::: David killed one called Goliath who had 4 brothers:: Buffalo Bill had an entry about one the Indians knew of , they had his bones and said he could catch buffalo bare handed!! I could get a little carried away telling you they are still trying to mate! Praise The Lamb: Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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They were all destroyed in the flood.
[link to www.biblelight.net]

Praise The Holy Of Holy ::They showed up again in the land God promised the Jews::Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. :::: David killed one called Goliath who had 4 brothers:: Buffalo Bill had an entry about one the Indians knew of , they had his bones and said he could catch buffalo bare handed!! I could get a little carried away telling you they are still trying to mate! Praise The Lamb: Amen
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preflood man lived longer and was probably larger, so, I don't think giant doesn't always mean nephilim.

Gen.6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

These giants are from the sons of God or the Fallen Angels.
It says before and after the flood.
Whatever was done in the garden was mostly destroyed in the flood except for Noah and his pure generations.
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adam was about 9 feet tall
and he was no alien hybrid
stop with the nonsense
it's not biblical
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Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of reknown.

I don't think they were ever completely vanquished. Giant skeletons have been found on every continent. There is reason to believe they live in underground caverns. They exist on the Solomon Islands.

[link to www.thesolomongiants.com]

[link to www.omniology.com]

[link to members.xoom.virgilio.it]

[link to www.genesispark.com]

[link to www.stevequayle.com]

[link to www.s8int.com]

[link to www.anomalies-unlimited.com]

[link to members.xoom.virgilio.it]
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All of the above have some truth embedded.



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you guys
there is no serpent seed
it's only fallen humanity
and their demons which they host
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The teaching that the serpent impregnated Eve is not real solid, to say the least. It sounds like who(m)ever came up with this assumed that the seed of the serpent which God mentioned must have sprung forth immediately, instead of later via the Genesis 6 account.
One of the webpages on which I read some of this stuff also claimed that human beings were never meant to have sex, and that we were supposed to procreate by *speaking* our descendents into existence.

Here's a pretty good site with nephilim info. . .

[link to alienresistance.org]
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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[link to urbanlegends.about.com]
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Thanks for the reply. Yes it did help. I completly forgot that Satan/Lucifer was an anointed cherub and not an angel. Re: the Kenites...I've read of this several places. But I think I recall this teaching is somehow racist (for lack of a better term at the moment). Wouldn't it say that everyone born of the line of Cain came from Satan? That doesn't seem right, but I suppose it is. However, I do believe the bloodline is the reason for God ordering the killing of so many people and animals in the OT. The Book of Enoch also mentions the seed of Cain in 22:7.....till his (Cain's)seed is destroyed from the face of the Earth and his seed is annihilated from amongst the seed of men. I have come to see why there is so much focus on blood in the OT. I will google sargon the mag. Thanks again for the info. Such a fascinating subject.

The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

“Yes. They are later called Kenites – son’s of Cain.”



Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan?

“It is possible but the Bible does address this.”

And wouldn't these be hybrids?

“There were hybrids (Nephilim) from the moment children were born of these unions.”


And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel?

“Well, Yes and No. Satan was not a fallen angel as the others were. He was a cherub, and they are somewhat different than angels. But yes, Cain was a ‘hybrid’ and though the Bible does not say, there is historical evidence that Cain was very large. Do a search on ‘sargon the magnificent’. Or better yet, buy the book by that name.”


Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

“I would not call fallen angels ‘extraterrestrial’. It puts a connotation on them that is not right.”

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

“Nephilim was the offspring of any union between the fallen angels and human women. Period.”

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.


Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

“Hope this helps”.
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nothing far from the true...
ENKI= Our Creator the serpent is his symbol (used now for medicine)
Enlil= God the one who hate us.. the one who lie to us... the one wanted to destroy us.. the one who rise this madness on the world and the one who was so upset the serpent help us that trow us out of paradise and create an artificial adversity between the Serpent and his descendant's and Eve and its descendants...
History has been writing for the ones in power... and you can not say that the good guys are in power.
All religions lie they where only created to manipulate us.
 Quoting: féru.
I don't do religion. And I do now and will then follow Jesus/Yahshua or whatever name you give him. I need to spend more time studying the Sumerian history on Enki and Enlil. Isn't it possible they were counterfeits of the Truth? Then again just like the worship of Mary coming down from the worship of Semeramus (sp?) wife of Nimrod, perhaps the many creation and flood stories are all interpretations of the same flood. As for the good guys being in power...no they are not. I love this subject. Thanks for the reply.
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They were all destroyed in the flood.
[link to www.biblelight.net]

Praise The Holy Of Holy ::They showed up again in the land God promised the Jews::Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. :::: David killed one called Goliath who had 4 brothers:: Buffalo Bill had an entry about one the Indians knew of , they had his bones and said he could catch buffalo bare handed!! I could get a little carried away telling you they are still trying to mate! Praise The Lamb: Amen
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Thanks wing-ed...you beat me to this one. Didn't know about the Buffalo Bill story. Imagine the size of those hands.
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Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of reknown.

I don't think they were ever completely vanquished. Giant skeletons have been found on every continent. There is reason to believe they live in underground caverns. They exist on the Solomon Islands.

[link to www.thesolomongiants.com]

[link to www.omniology.com]

[link to members.xoom.virgilio.it]

[link to www.genesispark.com]

[link to www.stevequayle.com]

[link to www.s8int.com]

[link to www.anomalies-unlimited.com]

[link to members.xoom.virgilio.it]
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Thanks for the links...wow. I've read about them living underground and have seen some of the pictures. Some of them were HUGE...like 30ft. tall. I wonder how big those fallen angels were.
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The teaching that the serpent impregnated Eve is not real solid, to say the least. It sounds like who(m)ever came up with this assumed that the seed of the serpent which God mentioned must have sprung forth immediately, instead of later via the Genesis 6 account.
One of the webpages on which I read some of this stuff also claimed that human beings were never meant to have sex, and that we were supposed to procreate by *speaking* our descendents into existence.

Here's a pretty good site with nephilim info. . .

[link to alienresistance.org]
 Quoting: MuadDib987
It is a great site. I have one of their no aliens stickers on my car window. I think I'll read their information on this subject again. And as always, eat the meat and spit out the bones. Thanks for caring enough to give the link. Be blessed.
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Not that this has anything to do with the bible but I thought it was interesting and somewhat relevant...

Australian Aborigines have stories of a time when giants walked the earth.

These giants are depicted in rock paintings as half human half animal, and associated stories tell of their movements and actions which helped shape the earth into form.
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According to Jewish tradition, Noah's wife was a descendent of Cain. If somehow true, it would likely indicate that Cain was 100% human; otherwise we would *all* be considered the "seed of the serpent" through her.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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They were all destroyed in the flood.
[link to www.biblelight.net]

Praise The Holy Of Holy ::They showed up again in the land God promised the Jews::Num 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. :::: David killed one called Goliath who had 4 brothers:: Buffalo Bill had an entry about one the Indians knew of , they had his bones and said he could catch buffalo bare handed!! I could get a little carried away telling you they are still trying to mate! Praise The Lamb: Amen
 Quoting: wing-ed


Yes Wing-ed, they still seek bodies to experience the pleasures through. I'm still wondering why the Sanhedrin council chose to leave out the books of Enoch and Jasher--even though they are mentioned in the bible.

"Is not this written in the Book of Jasher?"
Joshua 13

"Behold it is written in the Book of Jasher."
II Samuel 18
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The Jesus was a continuator of the opposition to the Satan but so cleverly he was cheated like also you on one hand the master of this world is pressing the Jesus for life and on second "now a master of this world will approach but it has nothing to do with me ( to me )" a Jesus is saying .

in the end as the master of this world does it have something against the Jesus whether there is no?

the fact is that :

The real Jesus can see only on the cross that he was cheated, its withstanding of the word are: (supposedly) " somehow you left me ? " , however no longer a Jesus is rising from the dead but he/she is appearing for Visnu- JHWH pupils.


Jesus was send to to the Earth to make change of the pole .

the next God step in his plans is change of the pole in the 2012 .

our God even try to use many peoples to make it happen .

I know how it work and what for is is made .

his name is Accuser

be cerfull .


the proof to this is :

because Satan showed to Jesus how powerfull He is that He is master of this word and all people are over his controle , Jesus was beliwing that this word is his word and it is why jesus was beliwing that one day it end in the fall down of the throne of the master of this word .

do you see any proof here or not ?

Im with him Im with Jesus of Nazareth and on his side because I saw not only methods which are in use by ASatan God of this word but also Im with thous Jews who was against him .

why ?

becauce He is using terror of the victim .

mean : you can not be against him whatever He can do for anyone .

it is why Im against him .

the next proof to this is :

Jews told to Jesus : Master how you can say to the bad spirits and devils to go away ? this mean you must be a King to this bad spirits and devils .

Jesus said no , because Kingdom can not be separated becauce this Kingdom which is divided will fall down .

Yes and it is wht jesus was thinking from the other reason .

but the truth is exactly this what jews told to Jesus

and more what i will tell to you know will be a big riddle , yes big riddle .

Why Satan and his demons are called opposer to Jesus and they carried his orders out ?

and :

why you and all was newer thinking about this before .

How opposer can carried orders out .

it is paradox .

But the truth story of Jesus Christ begin now in the spiritual word .

and in the word between this two words mean the earth and the spiritual word .

the only message which one was passed to us from this word between this two words is cross upsidedown

It is the truth about why and whoat for jesus was used .

and it is also why jesus can not be back to the earth .

even inside the church ?


even inside the church .

but now they will tell :

No . we have contact with Jesus inside the church only you dont know about this .

and I will tell to them

what you will hear on your ears go to the roof and tell to the whole town from your roof .


Satan for example is a proof :

and you will ask me what the proof can be satan

and you will tell me that you dont know

and I will tell you what proof satan is

Satan is a proof that if angels will make a riot inside the spiritual church against God , God will make that this angel who was between this angels together with this angels who made this riot against him will be called on the earth that He is this one who is making all evil bad things on this planet .

and all people on the Earth will be telling about him that He is this one who is making this here on this planet .

can you remember ewerything what I said ?

watch your life now

but the worst stanic scoff is that :

Jesus died on the cross for our sins .


In Poland for example war against christians and catholick church is that big now that eweryonce scoff on the interent from christains from catholicks form Pope and from catcholicks radio .

but no one is telling that Satan is inside this peoples .


when my friend christian was tortured by ASatan ewery day and went to the church to ask catcholick priests for a help they put him on their car and they took him to the mental hospital because Vatican enforced such an act in about 1998.
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Sargon the Great.

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'they are the mighty ones of eternity the people of the shem'.what is,'the shem'
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'they are the mighty ones of eternity the people of the shem'.what is,'the shem'
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The Shem is a Hebrew letter which contains the name of God. It's a deep study. The Bible speaks of the Name of God being written on the land of Israel. There are three main valleys that run through Israel with a mountain range across or at the top. If you look at a map (maybe a topo map) you can see these. The way they are laid out form the Shem or Divine Name of God. Now for Satan's counterfeit...the Freemasons have laid out Wash.DC to form their symbols of the pentagram and owl. I'll find the link to the Wash. DC symbols. I had this site saved on the Shem.

[link to www.hermeticgoldendawn.org]
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'they are the mighty ones of eternity the people of the shem'.what is,'the shem'
The Shem is a Hebrew letter which contains the name of God. It's a deep study. The Bible speaks of the Name of God being written on the land of Israel. There are three main valleys that run through Israel with a mountain range across or at the top. If you look at a map (maybe a topo map) you can see these. The way they are laid out form the Shem or Divine Name of God. Now for Satan's counterfeit...the Freemasons have laid out Wash.DC to form their symbols of the pentagram and owl. I'll find the link to the Wash. DC symbols. I had this site saved on the Shem.

[link to www.hermeticgoldendawn.org]
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Site showing Freemason Layout of Washington DC....Satan's counterfeit to the Shem written on the land of Israel.

[link to www.geocities.com]
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nothing far from the true...
ENKI= Our Creator the serpent is his symbol (used now for medicine)
Enlil= God the one who hate us.. the one who lie to us... the one wanted to destroy us.. the one who rise this madness on the world and the one who was so upset the serpent help us that trow us out of paradise and create an artificial adversity between the Serpent and his descendant's and Eve and its descendants...
History has been writing for the ones in power... and you can not say that the good guys are in power.
All religions lie they where only created to manipulate us.
 Quoting: féru.



100 percent correct.

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