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I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?

 
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I think originally Shem meant "sky chamber" and was also used in place of name. It's interesting that shem in chinese means mountain. Shem was also used in place of descendent in the bible. Could Shem have been used, also in place of elevated soul? To see someone's Shem was to see something about that person.


here could equally well reflect either his or the orthodox interpretation.

Genesis 11:2-8 4

And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plane in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said to one another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name [shem], lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

Again, although he uses a different translation of the Bible, there is nothing wrong with Sitchin’s quoting here. However he stresses the impact the actions of mankind had on the gods, especially their fear that 'nothing will be restrained from them', and goes on to suggest that the building of a shem would have prevented mankind’s being 'scattered abroad' because, as their population increased and they spread out, a 'sky-vehicle' would have allowed them to stay in contact with one another. Although there are undoubtedly enigmatic aspects to this piece of biblical text, I would suggest that it is far simpler and more reasonable to suggest that mankind might wish to build an impressive tower to make a lasting reputation for itself.

Isiah 56:5 5

Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place [yad] and a name [shem] BETTER THAN OF SONS AND DAUGHTERS: I WILL GIVE THEM AN EVERLASTING NAME [shem], THAT SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF.

This is our first example of Sitchin foreshortening a quote to lose the context. As soon as one reinstates the remainder of the verse, we must ask why god would wish to provide a 'space-vehicle' 'better than that of sons and daughters'? Unless rampant material one-upmanship had already infiltrated biblical society, his interpretation makes no sense whatever, and - far more disturbing - this could not have been anything other than entirely obvious to him when he selected the extract.

Gilgamesh and the Land of the Living, lines 4-7 6

'Enkidu BRICK AND STAMP HAVE NOT YET BROUGHT FORTH THE FATED END,

I would enter the land, would set up my name [shem],

In its places where names [shems] have been raised up, I would raise up my name [shem],

IN ITS PLACES WHERE NAMES [shems] HAVE NOT BEEN RAISED UP, I WOULD RAISE UP THE NAMES [shems] OF THE GODS.'

Taken from one of the original Sumerian Gilgamesh texts and not the composite Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh (which does not contain this passage), this extract finds Sitchin on highly selective form once again. When the missing bulk of the first line is reinstated (at least Sitchin gives us a clue by providing an ellipsis to indicate something has been left out), we can immediately see the connection with 'brick and stamp', that is monument building and printing - the conventional method of preserving one’s name. Then, with the reinstatement of the last line, it appears more likely that Gilgamesh is being mindful to respect the reputations of the gods than deciding when to use his own rocket as against theirs.

Hymn to Inanna 7

I cannot find this extract per se in Jacobsen’s composite version of the Inanna hymns, so the following is Sitchin’s version:

Lady of Heaven:

She puts on the Garment of Heaven;

She valiantly ascends towards Heaven.

Over all the peopled lands she flies in her mu.

Lady, who in her mu to the heights of Heaven joyfully wings.

Over all the resting places she flies in her mu.

However Jacobsen’s version does contain multiple references to Inanna as the Evening and Morning Star (Venus) which involve her 'lighting up', 'stepping up onto', and 'wandering in' the sky. Consequently it is possible that Sitchin has provided his own interpretation of one of these passages - and if so it may be as inventive as many of his other extracts. Since as usual he provides no reference as to his source, it is impossible to comment further.

Gudea Temple Inscriptions

Again the following extract, being so short, is hard to trace in Jacobsen’s translation; this is Sitchin’s version:8

Its mu shall hug the lands from horizon to horizon.

One passage towards the end of Jacobsen’s version reads as follows: 'He (Ninurta) has indeed established your (Gudea’s) name from the south to the north'.9 However it is hard to identify this as the same passage with any certainty, and further comment is useless without a proper source reference.

Adapa, Tablet II, lines 57-59

In this case Sitchin himself does not quote an extract proper, merely reporting that 'An demanded to know who had provided Adapa with a shem with which to reach the heavenly location'.10 I have found two translations of this text, the first by Alexander Heidel and the second by Stephanie Dalley. To place the extract in context, An wants to know why Adapa has been allowed to visit heaven (per Heidel’s translation), or alternatively how he obtained the powers to 'stop the south wind' (per Dalley’s translation). Dealing with each in turn:11

'Why has Enki revealed to an impure man

The heart of heaven and earth?

He has made him strong and has made him a name.'

This older translation appears to support Sitchin in as much as it contains the word name at the end, but that is about all. Meanwhile Dalley’s more recent translation bears little resemblance to this older version, and does not even contain the idea of a reputation or name:12

'Why did Enki disclose to wretched mankind

The ways of heaven and earth,

Give them a heavy heart?

It was he who did it!'

Unless progress on the translation of this Akkadian text has gone backwards in recent years, or another set of tablets entirely was used by Heidel, we can assume the later translation is the more accurate - and once again it does little to support Sitchin’s interpretation.

Epic of Etana, Tablet II, last column 13

This extract sees Etana asking the god Shamash (Utu) to help him obtain the plant of birth:

'O Lord, let the word go forth from your mouth

And give me the plant of birth,

Show me the plant of birth!

Remove my shame and provide me with a son [shem]!'

Sitchin’s extract is sufficiently close in this case for it to be clear that the word he suggests is shem in the original is here translated by Dalley as 'son', which is slightly confusing. Nevertheless, although she does not say as much her translation would appear to use the phrase 'plant of birth' as a sign that Etana is infertile, in which case it would be quite understandable that he would want to change the situation and establish a lasting reputation by way of offspring. Despite the fuss that is sometimes made about Etana's subsequent description of how the earth gets smaller and smaller as he ascends towards heaven on the back of an eagle, this is separate and in any case only common sense, so once again Sitchin's interpretation appears by far the less likely and obvious.

Anzu, Tablet I, column 3 14

Here, while Enlil is taking a bath, the evil god Anzu steals the 'Tablet of Destinies':

He gained the Tablet of Destinies for himself,

Took away the Enlil-power. Rites were abandoned,

Anzu flew off and went into hiding.

Again Sitchin does not quote here, simply suggesting that 'Anzu fled in his mu (translated "name", but indicating a flying machine.)' There is no direct mention of 'name' in Dalley’s translation as above, and since this is undoubtedly the same passage one may possibly conclude that here she has taken the word mu as a verbal prefix. It would appear therefore that once again Sitchin is on weak ground.

Epic of Creation, Tablet VI, lines 57-62

Dalley’s translation reveals how, after Marduk has vanquished Tiamat and asked Enki to create man, Babylon is constructed (originally by the Anunnaki themselves):15

'Create Babylon, whose construction you requested!

Let its mud bricks be moulded, and build high the shrine!'

The Anunnaki began shovelling.

For a whole year they made bricks for it.

When the second year arrived,

They had raised the top of Esagila in front of the Abzu.

Meanwhile Sitchin translates the word Babili (Babylon) as 'gateway of the gods' to arrive at the following translation of the first two lines of the same passage: 16

Construct the Gateway of the Gods

Let its brickwork be fashioned. Its shem shall be in the designated place.

He goes on to use the subsequent lines to argue that this mirrors the subsequent attempt by mankind to build a stage tower for launching rockets at the same site in the biblical Babel story (see above). However, once again we can see that the context is far more likely to refer to the construction as being something to enhance or revere 'names' and 'reputations'.

Untraceable Passages

I have been unable to trace translations of the texts from which the final two extracts used by Sitchin are taken. The first, supposedly from a Hymn to Ishkur, apparently contains the line: 'Thy mu is radiant, it reaches heaven's zenith'.17 The second, taken from what Sitchin describes loosely as a Poem to Ninhursag, supposedly contains detailed descriptions of the Great Pyramid of Giza, including the lines: 'House which is great landmark for the lofty shem', and 'Mother of the shems am I'.18 Unfortunately neither of these texts is mentioned by Kramer, Jacobsen or Dalley in their major works which I have used as my main sources throughout.

Conclusion

We can see that much of Sitchin’s textual 'evidence' in support of his claim that the words shem and mu refer to 'sky-vehicles' is badly referenced and, to say the least, somewhat creatively interpreted. His tendency in certain cases to leave out surrounding lines which would render his interpretations impossible in the context rings alarm bells which should put any reader on their guard, even if they do not intrinsically discount the possibility of flesh and blood gods with advanced technology.
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The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan? And wouldn't these be hybrids? And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel? Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.

Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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First off, Cain was a human, son of Adam and Eve. Satan had nothing to do with his birth. (Period)

The Nephilim were a product of Angels, or better said demons, since they decided to follow Satan instead of YHWH, and humans. There are two "theories" to this, it does'nt matter what you choose to believe, it has no real effect on the whole; either they were immaterial beings that "materialized" and were then able to copulate with human women, or they were material beings, (i.e. "extraterrestials").

But they all died in the great flood, no exceptions.

Apparently they did, however, leave clues behind which post-deluvian cultures re-discovered and interpreted in many different ways, creating numerous cults that guard these revelations jealously to this day.
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The grand assembly of the annunaki created first man (or adam) with a mix of human/annunaki dna. The bloodline goes down through jesus. see Laurence Gardner.
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Jesus son of Enki. Jesus will came back to intall the kingdom of His Father... so we live in the kingdom of somebody else...

also it is stated that Enki use his own sperm in the creation, so yes we all are his sons
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why don't you post the exact scripture
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hi

The Bible contains tales of greed, murder, and genocide on behalf of a god who lusted after worship, power and influence. You want the exact scripture. Here it is and it is not your average watered down Sunday School interpretation.

(Genesis 1:1 to 25) It is obvious if you read these scriptures carefully that the Creator God of the Universe in the opening passages is not the same as the god who genetic manipulated the genes of mankind to create man in his own image, male and female created he them. Gen. 1:27

Gen 1:26,27 And the physical gods said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...   so the gods created man in his own image in the image of the gods created he him; male and female created he them:"    

Gen. 5:1 &2 "...in the likeness of god made he him, male and female created he them..."

Gen. 1:28 "Mankind is told to REPLENISH the earth". ie; not the first time it had been populated.

Gen. 2:11 & 12 These gods wanted gold. Gen 2:15 And slaves to work the garden. "... the whole land of Havilah where there is GOLD.  AND THE GOLD of that land is good..."    What would a simple farmer who had not yet gained knowledge want with gold?  Were the slaves also placed in the mines to dig gold for their masters?

Gen 2:15 And the physical gods "took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."    i.e.: they were SLAVES because they were forbidden equality by being denied knowledge.

Gen. 2:12 "... the tree of knowledge, thou shalt not eat..."     Exactly the way slaves in the US South were treated with the threat of death for any who learned to read.

Gen 3:22 Who was this god talking to when he said, “...the man has become one of US...” The so called sin of Adam and Eve was that of the gods and blamed on the humans.

Gen 3:21 "...the physical gods made coats of skins, and clothed them."    Is this how Cain later learned how to "Kill"?

Gen. 4. The story of Cain and Abel is further proof that these were physical gods. Although Adam and Eve had been cast out of the garden of Eden they and their children continued to work as slaves for the gods who still hung around. Abel was a keeper of sheep and Cain was a tiller of the ground. If they were only doing this for themselves then why would a Spiritual God have more respect for a roast leg of lamb than for a platter of vegetables? Who taught these simple farmers to kill?

Gen 6:2 "That the sons of the gods saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:4 "And the sons of the gods came into the daughters of men, and they bare children of them..."     Further proof that the gods were physical and genetically compatible!

Gen. 6:4 The term Nefilim which is translated as "giants" actually means "They Who Came Down"

Gen 6:6 And it repented the lord that he had made man on the earth and it grieved him at his heart. And the lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth..." This is a humanoid type expression and feelings, not that of a Creator God of the Universe

There is plenty more evidence in the Bible that the War god reigned over the earth even after the flood and still does. Read it with opened eyes. If you want chapter and verse, I can give it to you.


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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan? And wouldn't these be hybrids? And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel? Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.

Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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AC it made a lot of sense hf I did a search under 'Eve / Satan' and it pulled up more sites than I expected. I separated each Study so it would with a space between, easier on your eyes. Yep, this will keep you busy, lol



eve and satan site:www.biblestudysite.com - Google Search

1. Bible Questions Answered; page #4
"It was then Eve that satan used to deceived Adam. ... Eve did it for him after she herself sinned. The serpent (satan) wanted to place his seed in the womb ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers4.htm

2. Bible Questions Answered; page #9
"If Eve's sin was sex with Satan, what exactly was Adam's sin again. ... Far more than sex was being engaged in between satan, Eve, and Adam in the Garden of ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers9.htm

3. The Serpent of Genesis 3
"When Satan is spoken of as a "serpent", it is the figure Hypocatastasis (see ... of Satan (that old serpent) who "beguiled Eve" (2Corinthians 11:3,14). ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/19.htm

4. apocrypha
"Satan, through his evil influences has from the very beginning attempted to corrupt the ... and the woman (Eve) as well as Adam believed satan over God. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/apocrypha.htm

5. lineage
"Satan will come to this earth first claiming to be the True Messiah prior .... son) Fraternal twin #1 (different fathers) Conceived [Gen 3:6] Eve said: "The ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/lineage.htm

6. Bible Questions Answered; page #12
"The whole world is beguiled by antichrist (satan) just as Eve was beguiled by the serpent (satan) in the Garden with the lie: “Ye shall not surely die” (Gen ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers12.htm

7. high
"And 4000 years later, from Eve, umbilical cord through umbilical cord would be ... was a corruption of God’s Old Testament religion and the work of satan. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/migrationmap.htm

8. Bible Q & A's - Christian Bible Answers
"Eve's twins by impregnation of the serpent (satan) and then Adam is found later, in corrupted form, in the Greek Mythologies · What is Hell? Is it the end? ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers.htm

9. sower
"Seth was Eve's third son, but only Adams second son. For Cain's father was the serpent, whom is none other than satan himself fulfilling one of his many ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/sower.htm

10. Bible Questions Answered; page #8
"Nick, WHEN satan had sex with EVE, he was a spirit angel, and EVE was of flesh, WHY wasn't CAIN, his offspring, a giant then?? Did CAIN know his father was ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers8.htm

11. Tabernacle Study Expose' - New Age Doctrine
"Satan, as the serpent, used the promise of 'enlightenment' to destroy Eve, then he used the fallen and beguiled Eve to destroy Adam. That is how satan ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/tabstud.htm

12. Once saved, always saved - Are you so sure?
"This is how satan deceived Eve. Please don't write to me to ask who these people are, if you have to ask then you know and don't want to admit it to ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/saved.htm

13. parables
"... Moses was born in approximately 1571 BC and Adam and Eve were from 4004 BC. .... Satan will tell people that he is Jesus who has come to rapture them ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/parables.htm

14. Bible Questions Answered; page #7
"Eve was Cain's mother but the serpent in the Garden (satan) was Cain's father. We have an in-depth Bible study that fully documents this if you have not ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers7.htm

15. The Unforgivable Sin
"So satan told Eve that she and Adam could be as gods, and satan himself wants to be God, why then would it be a mystery that his own in these end-times also ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/unforgivablesin.htm

16. Bible Q & A's - Christian Bible Answers, page #26
"I don't understand how satan could have possibly impregnated Eve since he's an angel. However, I did look up the Hebrew, which would make sense. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers26.htm

17. Scriptural Evidences That Christians Shall Die In The Great ...
"System of antichrist: This is the system which satan shall employ in his ...... yes, even beginning with Eve in the Garden, satan's first assault on the ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/tribdie.htm

18. Bible Questions & Answers (page #41) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"And as many of you know, but most other Christians do not; satan, as the serpent, impregnated Eve and she bore Cain. See our: What was the Real sin in the ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers41.htm

19. qtarc3
"Then from that man Adam God made Eve. So as we see, they were both in that ... was a corruption of God’s Old Testament religion and the work of satan. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/qtarc3.htm

20. Bible Questions Answered; page #1
"Genesis 3:15 is where God tells the serpent (satan) that the seed (Jesus) of the woman (Eve) shall crush his (the serpents) head. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers1.htm

21. news4
"preaching: "the knot of Eve's disobedience was untied by Mary's .... The verse is prophetically speaking of Christ's victory over Satan, not Mary's. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/news4.htm

22. Watchmen Bible Study Group Christian Bible Studies
"3 And there came out of the smoke locusts [locust army-satan's evil angels] .... As was Adam and Eve;. Genesis 2:24-25 24 Therefore shall a man leave his ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/thedead.htm

23. history
"The antichrist (satan) will claim to be the True Messiah and deceive the world. .... to establish himself on the throne, on the eve of the battle of Milvain ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/history.htm

24. Watchmen Bible Study Group. Christian Bible Studies On-Line.
"Satan/antichrist comes in the Fifth Trump. Also, more on the Rapture ...... Who were the OTHER TREES in the Garden of Eden , that Adam & Eve could PARTAKE ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/

25. Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion
"... down five-pointed star is well known to all occultists as their symbol of Satan. .... In the year 1844, on the eve of the Jewish Revolution of 1848, ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/plez.htm

26. The New World Order; What is it, When Did it Begin, is it in place ...
"It is a difficult thing to unite the world, and even satan must work within ... Adam and Eve, whom God Himself formed and placed in paradise on earth in the ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/nwo.htm

27. ccvvmal
"And no,Cain's father was not Adam, but it was satan as the serpent in the ... that all the peoples of the earth descended from one pair, Adam and Eve. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/ccvvmal.htm

28. belief
"Adam and Eve were not the first two people on the earth, ... Satan plants or influences many in this world, and they go about doing his business very well ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/belief.htm

29. Bible Questions & Answers (page #61) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"Hello; The Serpent (satan) is Cain's father, and yes he did have sexual intercourse with Eve. But you won't learn that in most of today's watered-down, ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers61.htm

30. Bible Questions & Answers (page #60) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"And why not; where else would we expect to find satan working but in ... Satan is leavening the scholar field, and poor uninformed Christians might give ear ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers60.htm

31. Bible Questions Answered; page #13
"Were there others besides satan, and is it still being protected now? ... Satan massed one-third of all souls created to attempt a takeover in Heaven. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers13.htm

32. "The 'World' in a Quote" Proof of a Worldwide Conspiracy.
"... and this MILITATES AGAINST ADAM AND EVE and other myths of alleged history. ..... INTEREST IS THE INVENTION OF SATAN! The people have an instinct which ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/conspiracyproofs.htm

33. Bible Questions Answered; page #16
"For instance, Anu, Ea and Murdoch are ancient Babylonian ‘dieties,’ but they are simply the corrupted form of Adam (Anu), Eve (Ea), and satan (Murdoch). ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers16.htm

34. Christian Bible questions & answers page 18
"Satan used Eve to deceive and lead astray Adam, who at the first remained obedient to the Lord. 1 Tim 2:12-15 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers18.htm

35. Bible Questions & Answers (page #50) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"I find the thoughts on Satan and Eve fascinating! The question that comes to mind about Satan being the tree of good and evil is confusing because Jehovah ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers50.htm

36. News & Current Events with Christian endtime-Commentary (Pg #13)
"... of Masonic Jewish thugs—inspired by Satan, funded by Illuminati bigwigs, ... Ruth loved Naomi as Adam loved Eve The same Hebrew word that is used in ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/news13.htm

37. Bible Questions & Answers (page #40) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"That is why we are not to speak directly to an evil spirit or to satan, ... They wanted a carnal religious experience, and satan gave them quite a show. ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers40.htm

38. Bible Questions & Answers (page #47) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"This is their plan for the entire world; a world that they then will hand over to their god satan (antichrist). Remember, to the hard-core International ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers47.htm

39. Audios/Videos & Special Studies Of Interest To Watchmen
"Further, satan is to be the antichrist (though there are many antichrists today, ... 7 And it was given [by antichrist/satan] unto him [the NWO] to make war ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/audio-visual.htm

40. Continuation Of Latest Additions To The Site
""And I will put enmity between thee [the serpent (satan)] and the woman [Eve], and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/new-add.htm

41. Bible Questions & Answers (page #53) - Watchmen Bible Study Group
"But as you are noticing, satan is also in the information game―false information. ... which was really Adam's blood by God's taking Eve from Adam), ..."
www.biblestudysite.com/answers53.htm

42. Bible Q & A's - Christian Bible Answers, page 28
"2 Male and female created he them (God formed- yatsar, Adam and Eve not ... They shall build the Temple below that satan (as the antichrist) shall sit in. ..."
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[But they all died in the great flood, no exceptions.


But how do you explain the scriptures after the flood, where there is mention of giants, and Sons of God?

How about the way this whole scene finalizes out? Is it not true, God's Word, stating that in the last days it will be like in the days of Noah? What does That, mean to you? Do you not think mankind is living now, like back in those days?
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serpent seed is false teaching
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My friend, where did Goliath come from? Did someone just hach that giant?

Serpent seed is true. Christ taught it also, but your eyes are closed to it because of you pastors teachings..

And there were giants in those days and also after that.
Does not that bible say that in Gen. chapter 6?
Sure does..

I guess you never read the book of Enoch!

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The second influx of the fallen angels you see written in Gen. 14:5. Look up the name Rephaims in Ashteroth.
Rephaims came from one of most wicked angels that came to earth and his name was Rapha.

Here is why the fallen angels came down.
Satan made an effort to try and pollute the blood line of Adam and Eve to virgin Mary.
Next the bad boy fallen angels came down in Gen. to carry that effort on.
It happened many times, over and over.
Today we still have that Cain seed line called Kenites and they rule the world today.

If you pay attention to Gen. 15:19-21, these are the tribes stemming from the fallen angels. All of these tribes kept mixing with the fallen angels.
I have much more I could validate, but not the time right now.
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My friend, where did Goliath come from? Did someone just hach that giant?

Serpent seed is true. Christ taught it also, but your eyes are closed to it because of you pastors teachings..

And there were giants in those days and also after that.
Does not that bible say that in Gen. chapter 6?
Sure does..

I guess you never read the book of Enoch!

blessings to all
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I agree with you, but there is officially no book of Enoch in the bible. I've spoken with several pastors on why Enoch and Jasher (Jasher speaks of ancient weaponry) were convieniently "left out" of the bible and the concensus is that the Sanhedrin council (the same guys who conspired to kill Jesus) left them out for a reason. When I asked what reason they said it wasn't important, but I thought to myself "now if there are books in the bible that speak about making weapons and an ongoing hybridization program by evil angels/aliens why would God NOT want us to know about it...unless there are men who stand to gain from us being ignorant?"
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My friend, where did Goliath come from? Did someone just hach that giant?

Serpent seed is true. Christ taught it also, but your eyes are closed to it because of you pastors teachings..

And there were giants in those days and also after that.
Does not that bible say that in Gen. chapter 6?
Sure does..

I guess you never read the book of Enoch!

blessings to all


I agree with you, but there is officially no book of Enoch in the bible. I've spoken with several pastors on why Enoch and Jasher (Jasher speaks of ancient weaponry) were convieniently "left out" of the bible and the concensus is that the Sanhedrin council (the same guys who conspired to kill Jesus) left them out for a reason. When I asked what reason they said it wasn't important, but I thought to myself "now if there are books in the bible that speak about making weapons and an ongoing hybridization program by evil angels/aliens why would God NOT want us to know about it...unless there are men who stand to gain from us being ignorant?"
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The Nephilim DID live on after the flod just like the qoute says. Period. There are a ton of reference as to there tribes which have also been shown in this thread. Also, Joshua was told to wipe out entire peoples (nephilim) by God! Sounds like genocide! Yep it was! They had a gene pool problem back then (as Missler would say) Here are some of the most authentic pictures ive ever seen of the real Nephilim.
[link to www.burlingtonnews.net]
These people existed long before indo-europeans came to the Americas. And NO i dont mean Columbus. Anyone who believes that lie is just lost.
Remember that these photos do not tell you exactly where they are! Thats because our Gov. does not want you to see them! This burial chamber was found on private land THANK GOD!!!!
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The second influx of the fallen angels you see written in Gen. 14:5. Look up the name Rephaims in Ashteroth.
Rephaims came from one of most wicked angels that came to earth and his name was Rapha.

Here is why the fallen angels came down.
Satan made an effort to try and pollute the blood line of Adam and Eve to virgin Mary.
Next the bad boy fallen angels came down in Gen. to carry that effort on.
It happened many times, over and over.
Today we still have that Cain seed line called Kenites and they rule the world today.

If you pay attention to Gen. 15:19-21, these are the tribes stemming from the fallen angels. All of these tribes kept mixing with the fallen angels.
I have much more I could validate, but not the time right now.
Blessings to all
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Here is another website which is really cool which goes into everything from the beginnig in terms of giants all the way through all of the empires all the way up to the middle ages. The site is put together really well and has a TON of INFO!!!
[link to www.mysteriousworld.com]

It can be a little hard to navigate but there is alot to read so be prepared for like a week of reading time!!
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My friend, where did Goliath come from? Did someone just hach that giant?

Serpent seed is true. Christ taught it also, but your eyes are closed to it because of you pastors teachings..

And there were giants in those days and also after that.
Does not that bible say that in Gen. chapter 6?
Sure does..

I guess you never read the book of Enoch!

blessings to all


I agree with you, but there is officially no book of Enoch in the bible. I've spoken with several pastors on why Enoch and Jasher (Jasher speaks of ancient weaponry) were convieniently "left out" of the bible and the concensus is that the Sanhedrin council (the same guys who conspired to kill Jesus) left them out for a reason. When I asked what reason they said it wasn't important, but I thought to myself "now if there are books in the bible that speak about making weapons and an ongoing hybridization program by evil angels/aliens why would God NOT want us to know about it...unless there are men who stand to gain from us being ignorant?"
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The book of Enoch is around. It was not cannonized.

Read Jude verse 6. That came from the book of Enoch.
Read Jude14, that also came from the book of Enoch.
Many other quotes too> in your bible.
God had Enoch brought up to Him and He spoke with Enoch. He then sent Enoch back to talk to those fallen angels. Enoch told them that they were going to be destroyed by God. And it happened.
Cain's family rules the world today. Christ spoke of them too, yet churches ovoid the scripture like it's a pleg!
Read John chapter 8:37-44. Watch what Christ says to those Kenites there in verse 44. "Ye are of your father the "devil" (Now watch the Christiosity's come out and say that is spiritual.) Gee, father, hum. I think I know what a father is, I have a real one. Devil, hum, I bet that is the same serpent in the garden, the devil. And I bet that the words in Hebrew 2:14 says that Christ came to defeat the devil. I bet also that the same devil in Heb. 2:14 is the same one Christ was speaking of in John 8:44. Any takers that they are not the same?
The Kenites put Christ on the cross, NOT THE JEWS as the evil ones want you to think...
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The second influx of the fallen angels you see written in Gen. 14:5. Look up the name Rephaims in Ashteroth.
Rephaims came from one of most wicked angels that came to earth and his name was Rapha.

Here is why the fallen angels came down.
Satan made an effort to try and pollute the blood line of Adam and Eve to virgin Mary.
Next the bad boy fallen angels came down in Gen. to carry that effort on.
It happened many times, over and over.
Today we still have that Cain seed line called Kenites and they rule the world today.

If you pay attention to Gen. 15:19-21, these are the tribes stemming from the fallen angels. All of these tribes kept mixing with the fallen angels.
I have much more I could validate, but not the time right now.
Blessings to all

Here is another website which is really cool which goes into everything from the beginnig in terms of giants all the way through all of the empires all the way up to the middle ages. The site is put together really well and has a TON of INFO!!!
[link to www.mysteriousworld.com]

It can be a little hard to navigate but there is alot to read so be prepared for like a week of reading time!!
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My bad....here is the start to the aticles
Follow from part 1 on to part 2 and so on...
like i said it can be a little hard to navigate.
[link to www.mysteriousworld.com]
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My friend, where did Goliath come from? Did someone just hach that giant?

Serpent seed is true. Christ taught it also, but your eyes are closed to it because of you pastors teachings..

And there were giants in those days and also after that.
Does not that bible say that in Gen. chapter 6?
Sure does..

I guess you never read the book of Enoch!

blessings to all


I agree with you, but there is officially no book of Enoch in the bible. I've spoken with several pastors on why Enoch and Jasher (Jasher speaks of ancient weaponry) were convieniently "left out" of the bible and the concensus is that the Sanhedrin council (the same guys who conspired to kill Jesus) left them out for a reason. When I asked what reason they said it wasn't important, but I thought to myself "now if there are books in the bible that speak about making weapons and an ongoing hybridization program by evil angels/aliens why would God NOT want us to know about it...unless there are men who stand to gain from us being ignorant?"



The book of Enoch is around. It was not cannonized.

Read Jude verse 6. That came from the book of Enoch.
Read Jude14, that also came from the book of Enoch.
Many other quotes too> in your bible.
God had Enoch brought up to Him and He spoke with Enoch. He then sent Enoch back to talk to those fallen angels. Enoch told them that they were going to be destroyed by God. And it happened.
Cain's family rules the world today. Christ spoke of them too, yet churches ovoid the scripture like it's a pleg!
Read John chapter 8:37-44. Watch what Christ says to those Kenites there in verse 44. "Ye are of your father the "devil" (Now watch the Christiosity's come out and say that is spiritual.) Gee, father, hum. I think I know what a father is, I have a real one. Devil, hum, I bet that is the same serpent in the garden, the devil. And I bet that the words in Hebrew 2:14 says that Christ came to defeat the devil. I bet also that the same devil in Heb. 2:14 is the same one Christ was speaking of in John 8:44. Any takers that they are not the same?
The Kenites put Christ on the cross, NOT THE JEWS as the evil ones want you to think...
blessings to all
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NICE!! You hit it on the head!!! Also notice how many times during this "stand off" that Jesus says to them that they are the "sons of the devil" Jesus goes waaaaaayy out of his way to make this clear to everyone listening. (Or reading it!)Now i am not sure if ALL of them were literally son of the devil in the flesh, but there is waaayy more than just meets the eye in this scripture!
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But they all died in the great flood, no exceptions.
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Believe what you must, but the Bible simply proves you wrong and it's been pointed out in this thread.
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The Kenites put Christ on the cross, NOT THE JEWS as the evil ones want you to think...
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So Caiaphas, as a member of the Council of Sanhedrin, had nothing to do with the death (and resurrection) of Jesus?
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But they all died in the great flood, no exceptions.

Believe what you must, but the Bible simply proves you wrong and it's been pointed out in this thread.
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And I agree with what you just said also.

The weak minded Christian has to have the bible explained to them because they are plain lazy. We see it here on glp everyday.

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If you want the whole story you will have to go to the Book of Enoch. Enoch describes the reasons for the flood, and who and what the angels, Nephalim/giants are.

Starting on [link to carnael.googlepages.com] There are 5 pages that contain a list of books that were supposed to be in the bible - such as books mentioned in the existing bible but are not found included in the works, books written by well known characters of the bible, and it all starts off with a brief history of how we came to have the bible we have today.

[link to carnael.googlepages.com] has several books From Enoch.

The ones linked to on those pages are:

Enoch, Secrets of

Enoch (Slavonic Book of the Secrets of Enoch)

Enoch (Another Version)

Enoch And The Watchers

Giants, The Book of, (Attributed to Enoch)
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"Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV).
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The Kenites put Christ on the cross, NOT THE JEWS as the evil ones want you to think...
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So Caiaphas, as a member of the Council of Sanhedrin, had nothing to do with the death (and resurrection) of Jesus?
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Did Caiaphas have anything to do with Christ's death?
YOu tell me if he did. Sounds to like you already have it all made up in your mind that what I said was incorrect. That is okay by me. I have tons of hours on this subject alone.

Here is the kicker for those who do not know.
Cain and Able were twins, but in differant sacks! Plus the manuscripts says they were.. King James says it differantly.
Smiling knowing many do not know this...
blessings to all
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If you want the whole story you will have to go to the Book of Enoch. Enoch describes the reasons for the flood, and who and what the angels, Nephalim/giants are.

Starting on [link to carnael.googlepages.com] There are 5 pages that contain a list of books that were supposed to be in the bible - such as books mentioned in the existing bible but are not found included in the works, books written by well known characters of the bible, and it all starts off with a brief history of how we came to have the bible we have today.

[link to carnael.googlepages.com] has several books From Enoch.

The ones linked to on those pages are:

Enoch, Secrets of

Enoch (Slavonic Book of the Secrets of Enoch)

Enoch (Another Version)

Enoch And The Watchers

Giants, The Book of, (Attributed to Enoch)
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I was just about to post that info. You beat me too it.

Thanks for the input. Great subject...
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Did Caiaphas have anything to do with Christ's death?
YOu tell me if he did. Sounds to like you already have it all made up in your mind that what I said was incorrect. That is okay by me. I have tons of hours on this subject alone.

Here is the kicker for those who do not know.
Cain and Able were twins, but in differant sacks! Plus the manuscripts says they were.. King James says it differantly.
Smiling knowing many do not know this...
blessings to all
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As you wish but Matthew, and not myself, is the one who said it:

"57 Those who had arrested Jesus took him to Caiaphas, the high priest, where the teachers of the law and the elders had assembled.

58 But Peter followed him at a distance, right up to the courtyard of the high priest. He entered and sat down with the guards to see the outcome.

59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death.

60 But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward

61 and declared, "This fellow said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.' "

62 Then the high priest (Caiaphas) stood up and said to Jesus, "Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?"

63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest (Caiaphas) said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."

64 "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

65 Then the high priest (Caiaphas) tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy.

66 What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered."

And as far as Cain and Abel, can you provide a source for your claim please?
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Did Caiaphas have anything to do with Christ's death?
YOu tell me if he did. Sounds to like you already have it all made up in your mind that what I said was incorrect. That is okay by me. I have tons of hours on this subject alone.

Here is the kicker for those who do not know.
Cain and Able were twins, but in differant sacks! Plus the manuscripts says they were.. King James says it differantly.
Smiling knowing many do not know this...
blessings to all


As you wish but Matthew, and not myself, is the one who said it:

"57 Those who had arrested Jesus took him to Caiaphas, the high priest, where the teachers of the law and the elders had assembled.

58 But Peter followed him at a distance, right up to the courtyard of the high priest. He entered and sat down with the guards to see the outcome.

59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death.

60 But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward

61 and declared, "This fellow said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.' "

62 Then the high priest (Caiaphas) stood up and said to Jesus, "Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?"

63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest (Caiaphas) said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."

64 "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

65 Then the high priest (Caiaphas) tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy.

66 What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered."

And as far as Cain and Abel, can you provide a source for your claim please?
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Have you found out what Caiaphas real gene line is?

Now about Cain and Able.
Gen. 3 God talks to the serpent. Who is the serpent? Serpent is one of the devils many names. Gen. 3:13 and 14. God told the serpent (devil) that he has cursed Satan for doing what he did, so much so, that God said he would put enmity between Satan (that is what the thee represents) and the woman. Between Satan's seed and Eve's seed. What is a seed when we speak of humans? How about children, offspring.
In Gen. 4:2 "And she(Eve) again (king James verse, but the manuscripts says continued in labor). There is my proof. If you cannot read the manuscripts, go find a trusted person that can read it for you. There you will find that Cain and Able are twins.
Now Also, if you go in Gen. 4 you will see that Cain is not, I repeat, IS NOT in the seed line of Adam. EVer wonder why? Well you just got told why!
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Did Caiaphas have anything to do with Christ's death?
YOu tell me if he did. Sounds to like you already have it all made up in your mind that what I said was incorrect. That is okay by me. I have tons of hours on this subject alone.

Here is the kicker for those who do not know.
Cain and Able were twins, but in differant sacks! Plus the manuscripts says they were.. King James says it differantly.
Smiling knowing many do not know this...
blessings to all


As you wish but Matthew, and not myself, is the one who said it:

"57 Those who had arrested Jesus took him to Caiaphas, the high priest, where the teachers of the law and the elders had assembled.

58 But Peter followed him at a distance, right up to the courtyard of the high priest. He entered and sat down with the guards to see the outcome.

59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death.

60 But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward

61 and declared, "This fellow said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.' "

62 Then the high priest (Caiaphas) stood up and said to Jesus, "Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?"

63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest (Caiaphas) said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."

64 "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

65 Then the high priest (Caiaphas) tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy.

66 What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered."

And as far as Cain and Abel, can you provide a source for your claim please?



Have you found out what Caiaphas real gene line is?

Now about Cain and Able.
Gen. 3 God talks to the serpent. Who is the serpent? Serpent is one of the devils many names. Gen. 3:13 and 14. God told the serpent (devil) that he has cursed Satan for doing what he did, so much so, that God said he would put enmity between Satan (that is what the thee represents) and the woman. Between Satan's seed and Eve's seed. What is a seed when we speak of humans? How about children, offspring.
In Gen. 4:2 "And she(Eve) again (king James verse, but the manuscripts says continued in labor). There is my proof. If you cannot read the manuscripts, go find a trusted person that can read it for you. There you will find that Cain and Able are twins.
Now Also, if you go in Gen. 4 you will see that Cain is not, I repeat, IS NOT in the seed line of Adam. EVer wonder why? Well you just got told why!
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Caiaphas' lineage is not mentioned in the bible to the best of my knowledge, but perhaps may be mentioned elsewhere. As far as Cain and Abel, I see nothing that indicates Cain is not genetically related to Adam. Please correct the passages if they are wrong...but of course that would require you to travel back in time and document this. Blessings to you as well.

1 Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man." 2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

Genesis 4
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Yeah i dont see anything about them being twins, or that Satan had sex with Eve. Nowhere.
I also note that later if you look at Cains children, they have the name of GOD in there names! Which would lead one to consider that Cain learned his lesson! Yeah, he murdered his brother and was left with a mark for it, but he went on with his life got married and named his kids after GOD!!
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Yeah i dont see anything about them being twins, or that Satan had sex with Eve. Nowhere.
I also note that later if you look at Cains children, they have the name of GOD in there names! Which would lead one to consider that Cain learned his lesson! Yeah, he murdered his brother and was left with a mark for it, but he went on with his life got married and named his kids after GOD!!
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BTW Cains 1st son was Enoch! Who you are all refrencing.
5th generation was Mehujael the father of Methusael. Methusael means "man who is of God." An astounding change occurred in the fifth generation to Cain's descendants.
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Yeah i dont see anything about them being twins, or that Satan had sex with Eve. Nowhere.
I also note that later if you look at Cains children, they have the name of GOD in there names! Which would lead one to consider that Cain learned his lesson! Yeah, he murdered his brother and was left with a mark for it, but he went on with his life got married and named his kids after GOD!!
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Gen. chapter 5. Question: is Cain in that genration of Adam? NOPE and Cainan is not Cain.

Notice in Gen. chapter 4:17 that Cains family is there and his offspring? Notice how the names of some of them are like Adams?
Ever wonder why?
As far as EVe saying " God gave us a child" God gives all chidren to their parents. Gods plan was for us to "replenish he earth as written in Gen. 1:28.
God create Adam on the sixth day. And then God created Ha-Adam on the 8th day. Smiling knowing I just opened a can of worms for the unlearned.

If you cannot read the manuscripts you have to take the Word of someone who can read it. Don't take my word on anything I say, go do your own homework,and learn to read the manuscripts. The Massora clears this all up which is the foot notes of the manuscripts.
So we can debate all day long about the twins and even other things we talk about. Until you can read it for yourself in the manuscripts, you are at the mercy of someone who can.

That my friends is why I dove into the manuscripts because of all the false info in the world given by the churchosity groups.
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Yeah i dont see anything about them being twins, or that Satan had sex with Eve. Nowhere.
I also note that later if you look at Cains children, they have the name of GOD in there names! Which would lead one to consider that Cain learned his lesson! Yeah, he murdered his brother and was left with a mark for it, but he went on with his life got married and named his kids after GOD!!

BTW Cains 1st son was Enoch! Who you are all refrencing.
5th generation was Mehujael the father of Methusael. Methusael means "man who is of God." An astounding change occurred in the fifth generation to Cain's descendants.
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You just made a huge mistake I believe if I understand you correctly. The Enoch of Cain is not the same as the Enoch of Adam. This is the number one reason why Christians battle each other. They do not pay attention to who the seed line are.
Many even think Cannanites are Kenites. Many think Jethro is a Kenite because they read it to be Kenite when it really refers to the land in which Moses's father in law had lived.
Pay attention to how Cain gave the same names as Adam had done.
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