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I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?

 
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
So you don't go for the hybrid offspring of fallen angels and human women explanation for Genesis 6? Just curious.
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Apparently you misunderstood me. I don't doubt it at all, for me, its a rock solid fact. What I DONT believe is that they still exist today, I'm quite certain they all died in the flood, but they left over "knowledge" which later cultures found and built up cults around.

I personally think that this account is the most solid, and provides for the arrival-of-aliens scenario that's been gradually unfolding for some time. When those jugheads step forward and claim to be our glorious creators, there's gonna be a monumental backlash among the church people of the world, believers or not.
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This is oh-so-true. Yet there will be two "waves" of the invasion, and I am not certain if the first wave really qualify as E.T.s, I believe strongly that they will be genetically modified humans, and they serve The Big Lie. The "monumental backlash among the church people of the world, believers or not" you speak of is exactly the mechanisation employed to rip out traditional beliefs from the minds of mankind. Basically, it will have the same effect of the "shattering" of a personality in mind-control. They will wreak havoc over society, and kill many. Classic UFO-invasion scenario, yet it is really perpetrated by TPTB, and not by some malevolent ETs. To top it off, TPTB will produce "the Ark of Hope" which will "save" us from their pets and we'll all be led to believe they saved us. Just like when the Mengele killed every other child in the cages and told the last one "I love you". The people left will be putty in their hands. And in the moment that they call out "peace and security" - comes the second "wave", the forces of YHWH under guidance of Jesus, and they will annihalate the initiators of the first.

Thats the scenario.. watch it unfold..
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan? And wouldn't these be hybrids? And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel? Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.

Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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You went the serpent seed tecahing.......'nuf said.
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
The serpent seed teaching says that Eve had sex with Satan and from this union Cain was born. That would mean that the descendants of Cain are are all descendants of Satan. Correct?

Then there's Gen.6 which states the sons of God had sex with the daughters of man. (my wording). Wouldn't this be saying the fallen angels had sex with at least some of the descendants of Satan? And wouldn't these be hybrids? And if the Nephilim came from this union of the sons of God and daughters of man, then wouldn't Cain also have been a Nephilim (giant/hybrid) since Satan was/is also a fallen angel? Although I personally believe in an extraterrestrial involvment here, I've left it out for now as I'm confused enough.

I guess what I'm wondering is exactly where did the Nephilim come from in the union if the hybrid daughters of man were Satan's descendants? Which bloodline produced the Nephilim? Son's of God/fallen angels or hybrid seed line of Cain/daughters of man?

Can anyone help me get a grasp on this? Although I lean toward believing the serpent seed teaching, I'm confused with the sons of God/fallen angels having relations with Satan hybrids/daughters of man.

Did any of that make sense? aghhhhh. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 236253

Go back to the bible starting at Genesis , read the script and translate the first five books with the original Hebrew.,after you are done , reposst your question, if there is still a question.
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Christ tells a parable about the good seed and the bad seed called the wheat and the tares. He said (of the bad seed) "...and he that sowed it was the devil"
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Yes, but clearly Jesus' statement is clearly in a spiritual context, Jesus' didn't "sow" his seed physically either. There is no "bloodline of Jesus" as the Liars would have us believe. That lie was "sown" by satanic elements in the church. Follow the "lies thread" over the ages and you will see that it was predominantly spread by pedophiles in the church - definately not the good guys.
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Questions answered..nuf said!



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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Go back to the bible starting at Genesis , read the script and translate the first five books with the original Hebrew.,after you are done , reposst your question, if there is still a question.
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=)) simple yet effective post =))

But seriously, people here rely far too much on secondary or tertiary sources for their belief system.

Gods word only gets tainted when its filtered through the philosophies of men. Like Paul said in 1. Corinthians 10:21, "YOU cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; YOU cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons." However, many have done just that.

Jesus said John 17:3 "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ"

Knowing these things, ask yourself; at who's table am I dining, and who's knowledge am I taking up?

We were warned of "the deep things of Satan" by Jesus through John in Revelation 2:24:

"However, I say to the rest of YOU who are in Thy·a·ti´ra, all those who do not have this teaching, the very ones who did not get to know the “deep things of Satan,” as they say: I am not putting upon YOU any other burden."

If anyone here has researched as long and adamantly as I have, digging deep into the bowels of history, you know exactly what he means with "I am not putting upon YOU any other burden". There are many things I wish I would not know that weigh heavily upon my mind.

The warnings to the early congregations back then are just as applicable to the followers of Christ today. Fear of the future and hate of the perpetrators of our misère are a natural by-product of pondering such studies. I almost went crazy learning the dark paths taken by men in history in "Pan's Labyrinth". No kidding. The only thing that kept me sane was realizing that I must concentrate on "the good news" of the coming kingdom, and stop digging ever deeper into matters for which Satan and his minions were -and still are- responsible.

Instead, "..Let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near." (Hebrews 10:24-25)
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Hi AC 236253. I think the Nephilim could be hybrids from fallen angels. Personally, I believe there is somekind of extraterristrial connection. I can't say exactly where they come from, but something is going in the skys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 236253


Agreed.

These "craft" have been seen for hundreds if not for thousands of years. And I think something big is in the near future. Perhaps it is some celestrial event or perhaps the return of Yahshua.
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Agreed, I think both celestial and "the return".

Whatever happens that is large enough to bring chaos to this planet, I believe will involve beings from other worlds. As for the whole abduction of humans, why not believe it? At least I don't doubt it.
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As far as the "abductions" are concerned, I'm quite certain that humans using this tech. are responsible. In the first recorded abduction, of Betty and Barney Hill, under hypnosis they both spoke of "Nazis" first, and suddenly it was all "Aliens". I think MK-tech was not perfected until after.

I believe the bloodline could possibly have been watched closely enough to preserve it over thousands of years. In this country not as much significance is put on bloodlines as in some other places for example with the Scots and Irish or the English. I think the Arabs watch their "royal blood" closely too. I'd like to know if DNA shows these bloodlines other than just family history.
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Bloodlines, no doubt, but I don't think it has anything to do with Jesus and/or the Nephilim.

Just recently I fully and completely came to believe in shape shifting. Satan himself "appears" as an angel of light. I forget the exact bible verse, but there's enough in the bible about these beings changing or appearing as something different, that I believe it. I knew of the subject of repillians for 25 years and only came to believe it about 6 or so months ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 236253


I don't believe the shape-shifting bit.

I don't think anything could shock me when it happens. I don't play into their fear tactics anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 236253


Don't be too sure of yourself, take it as it comes! They WILL shit most of us, no doubt about it.

Putting all this aside, above all I believe the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the one true "God". Who or even perhaps what "God Is" , I have put my trust in this God to take care of me no matter what happens.
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Now that's the spirit. Know this though; "God" is a very generic term. He has a personal name, which was made secret by first the wayward Jews and after that, the Church. His name is YHWH, IEOVAH, Jehovah - and "means he causes to become"

I believe we're in for one helluva' ride. But I know I'll be ok. Beside, I also have food, water and five bibles. There's an old Arab proverb that says, " Trush in God, but tie up your camel." Thanks, Be blessed.
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"one helluva ride" is something I like to say myself. Brace for it, the shit will hit the fan sooner than we think. Best wishes to you, hope you make it through!
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Apparently you misunderstood me. I don't doubt it at all, for me, its a rock solid fact. What I DONT believe is that they still exist today, I'm quite certain they all died in the flood, but they left over "knowledge" which later cultures found and built up cults around.
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OK, got ya. I lost track of who'd said what after page 2.

Good thread.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Questions answered..nuf said!



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Who put you in charge? Or are you the god of GLP? The questions were not answered and thats ok. They're not easy questions or they wouldn't be asked on GLP. And if this thread upsests you so much, don't click on it. Geeesh
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
please do not use words like nigga when you want me to believe you are christ like. this word was offensive and should not have been said. God created, made and formed US ALL. Our father does not see us as being different and also there was no mention of color in Gen when God was working. He created man in his image and in his image he was created, made and form. From dust you were created and to dust you shall return. Also know that in the last and final kindom where God brings US ALL back to Our Creator color won't matter. I hope that you become enlightened with Truth so that you continue not to use such words in the manner in which you did in your teaching of Our Father the Christ. I Thank the Lord God Our Father who sits on high for his Grace and Mercy and for the power of Forgiveness. Peace be to you.
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
Forgive me if I missed anyone's answer to this, I will read the posts later tonight,

'...Apparently you misunderstood me. I don't doubt it at all, for me, its a rock solid fact. What I DONT believe is that they still exist today, I'm quite certain they all died in the flood, but they left over "knowledge" ...'


YES, THEY STILL EXISTED AFTER THE FLOOD, they came down, descended, at the location called Jordan.

Which means, if I remember correctly, 'Place of Descent', or 'Descent' of the bad angels, sons of God, (Yah) who gave up their first estate, left heaven's duties for which they were made, and came down to mate with human women.

They have been doing that continually.

Yes, they did give humanity knowledge.

In religion, philosophy, beauty, health, herbs, science, medicine.

but they were not ended by the flood, only the bad humans and bad human hybrids (reprobate) were destroyed. Because if they had not been wiped out, the world would have been so evil and so vile, that the plan of Yah could not have been carried out. (purging the world of evil was necessary at that time to stop the fast spread of Satan worship/Solar Deity/Planetary Spirit worship.)

It was almost totally corrupt.

But then, they started doing it again, after the flood.
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Re: I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?
"Bloodlines, no doubt, but I don't think it has anything to do with Jesus and/or the Nephilim.


"Just recently I fully and completely came to believe in shape shifting. Satan himself "appears" as an angel of light. I forget the exact bible verse, but there's enough in the bible about these beings changing or appearing as something different, that I believe it. I knew of the subject of repillians for 25 years and only came to believe it about 6 or so months ago."



"I don't believe the shape-shifting bit."


but they can do that. Not all of humans do, and not all spirits can, or do, but many can and do.



You are right about Satan appearing as beautiful when he wants to. That is how he appeared to Eve, handsome, alluring, sensual, charismatic, etc.

so what is preventing him from doing it now? Nothing, and in the Bible it says he does, and his demonic hordes can too.
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How do you think the devil gets the whole world to worship him?

Not by exposing his real nature, real character, and real goal.

By manifesting as an angel of LIght, TRUTH, LOVE AND BEAUTY, MERCY, COMPASSION.

MOST OF ALL, LOVE.

Beware of this, be prepared for that tool, and his supernatural powers of awesomeness. Be ready to feel SUCH LOVE, SUCH WARMTH, SUCH BRILLIANT RESCUE from him/them/her
that you are filled with gratefulness and will WANT TO GO WITH THEM AND BELIEVE THEIR STATEMENTS.

JUST DON'T DO IT, JUST SAY NO.
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Yeah i dont see anything about them being twins, or that Satan had sex with Eve. Nowhere.
I also note that later if you look at Cains children, they have the name of GOD in there names! Which would lead one to consider that Cain learned his lesson! Yeah, he murdered his brother and was left with a mark for it, but he went on with his life got married and named his kids after GOD!!

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It doesn't outwardly say they had sex but there are a lot of verses that hint at it.

The curse of the serpent is a sign...

3:15 Curse are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. And I will put enmity between YOU AND THE WOMAN AND BETWEEN YOUR OFFSPRING AND HERS.

Part of God's curse on the woman is that she desire her husband and that he rule over her. (3:16)

To Adam God says that the ground is cursed because of Adam and that Adam is dust and will return to dust, (forever being eaten by the serpent). (3:19)

Adam named his wife Eve because she would become THE MOTHER OF ALL THE LIVING. Both his children and the serpents. (3:20)

Genesis 4:1 is an interesting verse as it says Adam knew his wife and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain and she said "With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man" But this verse is often questioned on its translation. The Targum Pseudo-Jonathan translation says that Adam knew his wife desired the serpent, known as the Angel of Death. Eve seems thankful to God for "a man" however this is a deception, Cain is not "a man".

In Genesis 5 it mentions that God created human beings in his own likeness.

At 130 years Adam has a son in his own likeness and his name is Seth. It does not say Cain was his son nor does it say Cain was in his likeness. (5:3) Cain is never mentioned as being Adam's child and is left off of Adam's family line. (5:1 through 5:6)

In Genesis 6 it talks about human beings increasing in number and daughters being born to them. Adam and Even had many sons but the daughters didn't come till later.

The sons of God, the angels, went to the daughters of man and took them for their wives. These daughters probably weren't pure, they would have been children born of Eve but Eve's children would have already mixed with the fallen angels as the sons had wives and we do not know where the wives came from.