I have questions on the serpent seed teaching and the Nephilim. Can you help?

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the Aramaic Targum pseudo-Jonathan, on
Genesis 4:1: “ And Adam knew that his wife Eve had conceived from Sammael the
Angel (of death) and she became pregnant and bore Cain. And he was like those
on high and not like those below. And she said: ‘ I have got a man from the angel
of the LORD ’ .”


The Palestinian Targum to Genesis 4:1: “ And Adam knew his wife Eve, who
had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Cain; and she said, I have
acquired a man, the angel of the Lord ...”


In another Rabbinic work: Pirke de Rabbi Eliezer, 21: “ And she saw that his
likeness was not of earthly beings, but of the heavenly beings, and she
prophesied and said: I have gotten a man from the Lord.”


Read the .pdf file at the above link for more info, including understanding context.

The "Giants" were just the big tribe of the Rephaim- just big people- which were exterminated eventually by the Ammonites. Not Nephilim.

There is NO CREDIBLE BIBLE TRANSLATION that even remotely hints that Satan and Eve had a child.

I enjoy seeing people like you around, cheers!

someone correctly reminded me that Satan was a Cherub (annointed Cherub) and not an angel. I had forgotten that fact. If angel means messenger could a Cherub be also an angel? Humm...maybe not? No matter. Whatever he is, he's a creep that's gonna'get his due. And soon I hope. I'm not at all familiar with the Aramaic Targum... Guess I have something new to Google. Sure are some knowledgable people here on GLP...I love it!!! Thanks a bunch for the post. Blessings to ya.

HI AC 187192. I really love GLP'ers. I'm continually amazed at how many in the know truth seekers there are on GLP. And so many are super intelligent. Thank you for your kind words. Cyber friends are so cool. What goes around comes around and you undoubtably have some blessings coming your way. I hope there's a bunch. ttyl...

I just read the link you gave. WOW it's great. I printed it out to take it to bed and read again before I fall asleep. Sometimes things stick in my brain better when I do this. I wish I new Hebrew. Like when you see the word translated another. There's two different words in the Hebrew for another. There's another of the same kind and another of a different kind. Just that one word misinterpreted can do so much to the meaning of a whole passage of scripture. Although I too am guilty of taking scripture out of context, I try not to and like those who also tear things apart and keep things in context..even context of the whole bible. Well, I must sleep. It's been raining a nice steady shower here in Colo. Spgs. for several hours. I love the sound of rain when there's no thunder. My dog likes the no thunder part. ttyl. Take care. A better world is coming. Maranantha.

Seeing as how the aristocracy of Israel rose up in defiance of YHWH as early as Solomonic times, it is hard to accept almost anything thereafter as being "untainted". It only got worse after the destruction of the temple by Babylon. The only exception IMO. is the NT, which clearly reflects the same position as the OT, in defiance of the ruling class and lying and conniving pharisees, sadducees and essenes. I believe that, try as they could, they were and are unable to delete the critical portions of the Bible that support the fundamental core truth, otherwise there would certainly be no mention of the sins of Israel and its blatant deviance from true worship. No wonder the catholic church made reading the Bible a crime.

Thus, all Apokryphons are in effect, teachings of the devil or at best, embellishments of biblical history or flattery of various personages (such as the "lost books of Daniel"). Many contain clear contradictions to OT as well as NT teaching, are even innerly inconsitent (such as Jesus Ben Sirach for example), or overtly promote witchcraft (such as Tobit). The only, somewhat "useful" writings are the Maccabees, and only in moderation and a good grain of salt.

Although there may be a little truth in post-first temple rabbinic literature, since a lie is better sold with true elements than outright, they clearly consist predominantly of counter OT dogma and elements of hellenistic, egyptian or babylonian philosophy, especially in regards to discrepancies between the biblical notions of the soul, life after death, "hell", spritism and idolatry- and their teachings, just to name a few. The esoteric teachings of the Kaballah and Talmud, for example, relect without a shadow of a doubt an unholy union between Egyptian, Babylonian and the then-emerging all powerful jewish mystism which controlled pretty much everything thereafter.

Having said that, it would be wise to drop the "serpent seed teaching" as a teaching of the serpent.

slight correction:

There is of course a "serpent seed" teaching in the Bible, yet it is, from what the Bible provides, simply the following;
There are people who choose to follow the true God (seeds of the "Woman" - God's organisation [Careful! Woman is NOT Babylon the Great!]) and those that would rather follow Satan (Seeds of the serpent - Satan's organisation). The choice is always open, and has absolutely nothing to do with bloodlines, color, racial origin or whatever, whatsoever.

So you don't go for the hybrid offspring of fallen angels and human women explanation for Genesis 6? Just curious. I personally think that this account is the most solid, and provides for the arrival-of-aliens scenario that's been gradually unfolding for some time. When those jugheads step forward and claim to be our glorious creators, there's gonna be a monumental backlash among the church people of the world, believers or not.

OH no! That is a total joke! he line of seth is a complete misinterpitation of the biblical text. It means what it says and says what it means. PERIOD. LOOK, some weird things went on back then. Satan had been told by GOD that he would bring a "kinsman redeemer to kill him and restore ther universe in the garden. Satan knew from then on, that he had a limited amount of time to get rid of the blodline line of Adam and Eve. The best way to do this if you are a "super angel" is to apparently corrupt the actual blood of every person so that it just by mere statistics could not bring about the Messiah. GET IT?

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User ID: 236253
Could you please give me your overview of the Nephilim and what you think is going to happen in the near future in regards to this?
Also do you think that there are currently hybrids among us?
Also what of the abductions and hybrid experiments that seem to be going on with all these people that have been put through every Psychiatric test known to man?
Please give me your total thoughts. I would love to read them!

User ID: 249326
6/13/2007 1:00 PM
TO AC 249326
Same questions for you as well!!!


OH no! That is a total joke! he line of seth is a complete misinterpitation of the biblical text. It means what it says and says what it means. PERIOD. LOOK, some weird things went on back then. Satan had been told by GOD that he would bring a "kinsman redeemer to kill him and restore ther universe in the garden. Satan knew from then on, that he had a limited amount of time to get rid of the blodline line of Adam and Eve. The best way to do this if you are a "super angel" is to apparently corrupt the actual blood of every person so that it just by mere statistics could not bring about the Messiah. GET IT?

It is prophesied that one like to David will sit on the throne in Jeruselem. I would rather imagine that DNA for ID purposes is designed to find out the ancestral Hebrew bloodline that will bring this to pass, and attempt to eradicate it.

Many Hebrews believed in Christ as the Messiah after the Apostles told them, and they became known as Christians, intermarrying with Greek Christians; therefore, the need for DNA testing. Just one of my thoughts. :)
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That is a positive thought i will admit. But i dont think thats what we are talking about. The Nephilim were a union(more genetics than sex i think) between evil "fallen angel" and human women. Genesis also eludes to these evil angels messing around with animal DNA as well.
My only question for some posting is do they (posters) think that there are hybrid "nephilim" walking around today in society?

"My only question for some posting is do they (posters) think that there are hybrid "nephilim" walking around today in society?"

I think that question has more or less been answered in a sense, like in the last days, it will be like before the flood. There has been way too much interest in genetics, cloning, DNA, etc., so that I think there are "hybrid 'nephilim' walking among us today, but mostly sit in seats of governments.

What comes to mind is that the King of England was forced to relinquish his throne because he married a 'commoner', not one of "them", descendants of the nephalim.

The following was taken from a website that is no longer up and running. Gee, I wonder why! I was able to save two pages off the site before it disappeared:

"THE CONNECTION

"The Nefilim, we are told, ... needed an intermediary between themselves and the masses of humans. They were, they decided, to be gods -- ELU in Akkadian, meaning "lofty ones." As a bridge between themselves as lords and Mankind, they introduced "King-ship" on Earth: appointing a human ruler who would assure Mankind's service to the Gods and channel the teachings and laws of the Gods to the people.
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The concept of King-ship is one of the real secrets of the ancients. It is an important factor in considering the Benjaminite story. It is an important factor in the story of Israel. It is an important factor in the Grail traditions. It is an important factor in the Merovingian and related bloodlines. And, we shall see, it is a very important factor with regard to Freemasonry in general, and the AASR in particular.
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We have quoted this much, since it details the beginnings of Kingship on this planet. Long before Egypt, long before China, long before Israel, and other ancient civilizations -- SUMER was the forerunner. It is worth mentioning too, at this point, that the one Organization today that acts according to the rules of King-ship, as given to us by the Nephilim, is Freemasonry. Perhaps not the typical parade-bound Shriner in the small car, but the rituals and symbols of the Craft degrees, and the function of the officers in a Lodge pertain to the ancient tradition of Kingship. To be Master of the Lodge is to be a King, if even for but a year.

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"What, then, does the term NEFILIM mean? Stemming from the Semitic root NFL ('to be cast down'), it means exactly what it says: It means THOSE WHO WERE CAST DOWN UPON EARTH!

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"Malbim, a noted Jewish biblical commentator of the nineteenth century recognized these ancient roots and explained that 'in ancient times the rulers of countries were the sons of the deities who arrived upon the Earth from the Heavens, and ruled the Earth, and married wives from among the daughters of Man; and their offspring included heroes and mighty ones, princes and sovereigns.' These stories, Malbim said, were of the pagan gods, 'sons of the deities, who in earliest times fell down from the Heavens upon the Earth...that's why they called themselves 'Nefilim', i.e., Those Who Fell Down.'"

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I. CONCLUSION.
THIS, THEN, amounts to a Secret. A Royal Secret. No doubt why many occultists have occupied themselves with genealogy and similar antiquarian interests. We, too, find that the study of the Holy Doctrine involves the study of Genealogy. The history of the Authentic Tradition involves bloodlines, just like families possess

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Great post! I am very interested in this theory that there ARE people walking among us that are Nephilim.
It raises sooooo many questions.
In Hebrews Paul,(if he wrote Hebrews) says that we entertain angels unawares. He never mentions if they are good or evil!
Next Question: What about the alien connection? This abduction phenom that is eveywhere. Many people believe it has to do with the "LIE" paul speaks about. The one that people buy totally.

The only two churches Christ was pleased with in Revelation chapters 2 and 3 were the ones who taught the difference between the good "seed" and the bad "seed" Those who say they are from judea but lie... also those that hold the key of David the "Truth"

Jesus addressed these offspring Kenites in John 8:44 He said "You are of your father the devil..." and for forth
If you recall in Gen chapter 6 it says "and after that" which implies a second inflex could be where the MAyan's got their intelligence these beings (fallen ones) would know how to build a perimid etc.

Remember Paul warns us to keep our heads covered (with Christ) because of the angels... their coming back on the toe of Michael's boot (Archangel) after war in heaven (Rev)
Satan and his angels "But woe to you on earth as he knows he has a short time.

As it was in the day of Noah...

I have to say I personally do lean toward the serpent seed teaching. However, I have learned to not be too adament on any subject. Learning is an ongoing project I love. Your post and ones like it do give me more to think about. Thank you for keeping me questioning all things. Blessings.

The word serpent in Hebrew is "nashash" which means "glorious shining angel"

The word tree when referring to fruit trees that they were allowed to eat is the Hebrew word "ets" which means, "tree, hence wood"

When referring to the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil this word tree is the Hebrew word "atash" which means spine, backbone.

Neither shall you touch it, lest you die. This word tough is the Hebrew word "naga" which means "to lie with a woman"

In verse 15 God told them He would put enmity between her Eve's seed and his (Satan's) seed. This word seed in the Hebrew means "sperma"

Paul would address this in the New Testament when he said to not be "beguiled" as Eve was... the Greek word for Beguiled means sperma.

The word Adam in Gen chapter one is Hebrew "Adam" without the article and particle making it "mankind" all races

The word Adam in chapter 2 is Eth Ha Adam which means in the Hebrew "this man Adam" signifying a specific man.

The bloodline that ambilical cord to ambilical cord Christ would come through which is the one Satan wanted to pervert and Noah's was the only pedigree out of this particular lenage that that did not mate with the Nephilim (fallen angels)

Christ tells a parable about the good seed and the bad seed called the wheat and the tares. He said (of the bad seed) "...and he that sowed it was the devil"

Hi AC 236253. I think the Nephilim could be hybrids from fallen angels. Personally, I believe there is somekind of extraterristrial connection. I can't say exactly where they come from, but something is going in the skys. These "craft" have been seen for hundreds if not for thousands of years. And I think something big is in the near future. Perhaps it is some celestrial event or perhaps the return of Yahshua. Whatever happens that is large enough to bring chaos to this planet, I believe will involve beings from other worlds. As for the whole abduction of humans, why not believe it? At least I don't doubt it.

I believe the bloodline could possibly have been watched closely enough to preserve it over thousands of years. In this country not as much significance is put on bloodlines as in some other places for example with the Scots and Irish or the English. I think the Arabs watch their "royal blood" closely too. I'd like to know if DNA shows these bloodlines other than just family history. Just recently I fully and completely came to believe in shape shifting. Satan himself "appears" as an angel of light. I forget the exact bible verse, but there's enough in the bible about these beings changing or appearing as something different, that I believe it. I knew of the subject of repillians for 25 years and only came to believe it about 6 or so months ago. I don't think anything could shock me when it happens. I don't play into their fear tactics anymore. Putting all this aside, above all I believe the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the one true "God". Who or even perhaps what "God Is" , I have put my trust in this God to take care of me no matter what happens. I believe we're in for one helluva' ride. But I know I'll be ok. Beside, I also have food, water and five bibles. There's an old Arab proverb that says, " Trush in God, but tie up your camel." Thanks, Be blessed.

236253: I struggled with shape shifters too, I think most likely. Cathy O'brian talks about seeing Bush Sr shape-shift in front of her when she was a mind controlled sex slave for the whitehouse

She thought it was a hologram he somehow made happen but I think it's possible it could be the real deal... I was told Bush is not their birth name was German name Schraff or something like that.

Hi...great subject. It's hard to believe that people like Bush could be a shifter. I tend to think he's just a puppet. Or he's a smart shape shifting reptillian that's one hell of an actor at being really stupid. BUT, with some of the knowledge I have gained on the et presence and ufos, I would not doubt he could be a shifter. There are some crafty beings out there. Time will tell. But when it all comes down, so to say, it may not even matter. There's a quote from Hamlet that goes, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than dreampt of in your philosophy.". I think that says it all. Keep lookin' up. But don't breath the air...lol.

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User ID: 236253
6/13/2007 8:05 PM

"I knew of the subject of repillians for 25 years and only came to believe it about 6 or so months ago. I don't think anything could shock me when it happens. I don't play into their fear tactics anymore. Putting all this aside, above all I believe the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the one true "God". Who or even perhaps what "God Is" , I have put my trust in this God to take care of me no matter what happens. I believe we're in for one helluva' ride. But I know I'll be ok. Beside, I also have food, water and five bibles. There's an old Arab proverb that says, " Trush in God, but tie up your camel." Thanks, Be blessed."

The best way to tie up our camels is to know the tactics of our vilest enemy! As in war, we must have awareness of who he is. One tactic is the use of the human mind, the other is the use of psychobabble. The following website is not for the fainthearted. Only those who trust in God, holding to goodness and moral standards can withstand the wiles of the ancient serpent. Blessings upon you, also, AC 236253!

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"One tactic is the use of the human mind, the other is the use of psychobabble."

Uh, my choice of words got all tangled up with what I had in mind. Actually, one tactic is the use of suseptible human resources, such as amoral men in places of power. The other is psycobabble for the masses, used for purposes of propaganda (conditioning) and doing the dirty work of the reptilians, such as performing atrocities against our fellow man. They know just how to push our buttons!

It is encouraging to read posts here at GLP, seeing that we are not so fooled any more with lies from those we once trusted to keep vigilance over this country. They just couldn't say NO!
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