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People need to at least stand up on this issue!!!!! C'mmon folks....your government claims the right to INJECT ANYTHING THEY WANT INTO YOU, YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR PETS....that really pisses me off!!!!

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"Nothing is so firmly believed as that of which we know least."—Montaigne.

"The 'victory over epidemics' was not won by medical science or by doctors--and certainly not by vaccines.....the decline...has been the result of technical, social and hygienic improvements and especially of improved nutrition. Here the role of the potato...deserves special mention.....Consider carefully whether you want to let yourself or your children undergo the dangerous, controversial, ineffective and no longer necessary procedure called vaccination, because the claim that vaccinations are the cause for the decline of infectious diseases is utter nonsense."--The Vaccination Nonsense (2004 Lectures)---Dr. med. G. Buchwald ISBN 3-8334-2508-3 page 108.

The vaccination myth is the most widespread superstition modern medicine has managed to impose, but, being by the same token the most profitable, it will prove to be also one of the most enduring, though there was never the slightest of scientific evidence upholding it. Suffice it to say now that the various epidemics have experienced in all countries the same natural evolution of growth, decline, and eventual disappearance, whether vaccination or other therapies had been introduced or not. The only demonstrable effects were the widespread damages caused by the various vaccinations, none excluded. Most pediatricians we know in Italy and France do not vaccinate their own children, although they cannot refuse to vaccinate their clients' children, if they want to retain their union licence to practice........
So it can safely be predicted that the advertised belief in the alleged blessings of vaccination will be among the last deadly rites of Modern Medicine to go, because it is far too profitable to the medical combine to be allowed to go without a bitter struggle, of which the beginnings can increasingly be seen today, but which will certainly drag on into the coming century. It is indeed so profitable - to Industry and State - that it is incentivated by being offered, or imposed, in many cases free of charge. But in truth, who gets the bill? The taxpayer, of course. Preface by Hans Ruesch to 1000 Doctors (and many more) Against Vivisection

If you think you need a medical education to form an opinion on the merits of vaccination, ask yourself, who created and keeps that belief going?

1. The Great Question. Why would Medical doctors reject vaccination? It is a well kept secret that medical doctors have been the greatest vaccination critics, there were 14 medical people on the board of the The National Anti-Vaccination League in 1936, and after a 100 years or so of smallpox vaccination, why, and this is one vaccinators can't answer, did a notable scientist of his day, Wallace, and many notable medical doctors Pearce, Collins, Creighton, Crookshank, Hadwen, Beddow Bayly, turn against their profession's holy creed, and become anti-vaccine? Perhaps they liked being persecuted, they tried to silence Hadwen by charging him with manslaughter. [See: Rex versus Hadwen manslaughter charge]. Ask yourself why someone, (eg Dr Mendelsohn), who was raised on vaccination would become a critic or opponent of vaccination?

"Historically, doctors who have dared to change things significantly have been ostracized and have had to sacrifice their careers in order to hold to their ideas. Few doctors are willing to do either."--Robert Mendelsohn, MD (Confessions p 129)

"The greatest threat of childhood diseases lies in the dangerous and ineffectual efforts made to prevent them through mass immunization.....There is no convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease."--Dr Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.

"forced me to look into the question of vaccination further, and the further I looked the more shocked I became. I found that the whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors are convinced that they are useful, but if you look at the proper statistics and study the instances of these diseases you will realize that this is not so."--Dr Kalokerinos MD (International Vaccine Newsletter June 1995)

Today you can see what happens to Whistleblowers and witness the smearing of Dr Wakefield, also The Dr Jane Donegan, "Witch Hunt".

In the field of cancer the last 100 years is littered with the persecution of Allopaths who went against orthodoxy and used non-Allopathic medicine. [See: The Cancer Conspiracy]

[See: Medical doctors on vaccination quotes]

Also a very revealing 2001 interview of an ex-vaccine researcher Jon Rappoport interview

[See Rationalization for why most medical doctors believe in vaccination.]

2. Statistics. It is a well kept secret that vaccination can be taken apart and disposed of (to paraphrase William White) purely by the Government's very own statistics

"The subject of Vaccination, ... is, fortunately, one on which anyone capable of appreciating figures can form a sound opinion." M. BEDDOW BAYLY M.R.C.S., L.R.C.P.

a. Death rate decline. Believe it or not, there isn't any evidence that vaccination reduced the death rate for any disease.

"Nearly 90% of the total decline in the death rate in children between 1860 and 1965 due to whooping cough, scarlet fever, diphtheria and measles occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread immunization against diphtheria" (Powles, 1973)."---Second Thought About Disease by Drs Kalokerinos & Dettman 1977.

"The greatest threat of childhood diseases lies in the dangerous and ineffectual efforts made to prevent them through mass immunization.....There is no convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease."--Dr Robert Mendelsohn MD

Measles deaths had declined by 99.4% before vaccination! Vaccination is being sold as the main factor in reducing measles deaths--hands up all those who thought vaccination was the main, or only factor, in the reduction of measles deaths.

Right here you can forget anything else about vaccination and ask yourself, where is the benefit? Take a long time to think about that one. And save yourself reading any further.

b. Then you can look at the statistics regarding complete vaccine failure, eg Smallpox statistics (or in quotes) Diptheria Typhoid Tuberculosis (TB) Tetanus Mumps.

c. Smallpox case mortality statistics, where case mortality (death rate per cases of smallpox) ranged from as much as 26.8% in Japan where revaccination was enforced to 1.26 (averaging 5.1) under the Leicester Method where vaccination was rejected in favour of sanitation, and 0% under homeopathic care.

d. Spread smallpox and other diseases. While there is plenty of evidence smallpox vaccination increased the incidence, and spread smallpox along with syphilis, leprosy, death, Erysipelas, and TB/consumption etc around the world.

"Smallpox was on the way out, indeed epidemics disappeared decades before the WHO decided to conduct the final "eradication" campaign. It is also well-documented that the largest epidemics occurred in the most highly vaccinated populations, while whose who were unvaccinated, did not have the same epidemics. "--Dr. Viera Scheibner

"We also hear of the noble work of Father Damien among the lepers of Hawaii, but we are not told that there was not one leper in the whole of the Hawaiian Islands before the noble work of Jenner reached them. By the nineties, 10 per cent of the natives were lepers."---Lionel Dole

Also, you can see the huge increase in child deaths when the vaccine years were compared with the non-vaccine years in Leicester:

"Whereas in the high vaccination period of 1866-72 there were 107 deaths per thousand living at that age, now there are only 34 per thousand, being a decrease of 73 per thousand, or a saving of 68 per cent. This represents a saving of over 2,200 lives each year of children living under five."---- LEICESTER: SANITATION versus VACCINATION BY J.T. BIGGS J.P.

At a rough guess you could deduce that smallpox vaccination was killing over 20,000 children under 5 years old every year, at the height of compulsory vaccination in England, which was why Dr W. J. Collins (who used to be a Public Vaccinator for 20 years) made the following comments:

"I have no faith in vaccination; nay, I look upon it with the greatest possible disgust, and firmly believe that it is often the medium of conveying many filthy and loathsome diseases from one child to another, and no protection whatever against small pox. Indeed, I consider we are now living in the JENNERIAN epoch for the slaughter of innocents, and the unthinking portion of the adult population."---W. J. COLLINS, M.D., B.S., B.Sc. (Lond.) M.R.C.S 1883

[See: "The Leicester Method" by J.T. Biggs for the Leicester expose.]
[See: Vaccine "lymph" and disease spread for the disease holocaust from smallpox vaccination, and wonder how anyone today can believe in something so primitive.]

e. The USA is 24th in infant death rate statistics, surely another telling indication of the dire effects of compulsory vaccination: Infant death rate (under 1 year old)

"The seldom publicized history of the pertussis vaccine in Sweden, gives an entirely different point of view from that of the US public health service. Sweden banned the pertussis vaccine in 1979, and yet Sweden now has the second lowest infant mortality rate in the world, whereas the United States ranks a very poor 20th or lower."--Harold Buttram

f. There has been a vast increase in other diseases after the introduction of vaccination: Autism increase Disease increase Disease incidence

Now 1 in 100 children have autism, 1 in 5 asthma, 1 in 10 dyslexia, 1 in 20 Attention-deficit disorder, Epilepsy 5-8 per 1000, Cerebral Palsy (1 in 400 to 1 in 166), an epidemic of Type 2 diabetes-----and the number one suspect is vaccination. The Government/Vaccine Industry is going to carry on vaccinating, covering up, and claiming vaccines are safe, until every other child has a vaccine induced disease, so only parent awareness is going to stop that.

"The use of Hib vaccines has displaced Hemophilus as a cause of disease and death, but other organisms like the far more serious, and more untreatable pneumococcus or other bacterial meningitis types have risen to take the place of Hib as causes of meningitis."---Hilary Butler

"Instead of epidemics of measles and polio, we have epidemics of chronic autoimmune and neurological disease: In the last 20 years rates of asthma and attention-deficit disorder have doubled, diabetes and learning disabilities have tripled, chronic arthritis now affects nearly one in five Americans and autism has increased by 300 percent or more in many states."----Barbara Loe Fisher

"We are in the midst of an international epidemic. Those responsible for investigating and dealing with this epidemic have failed. Among the reasons for this failure is the fact that they are faced with the prospect that they themselves may be responsible for the epidemic. Therefore, in their efforts to exonerate themselves they are an impediment to progress. I believe that public health officials know there is a problem; they are, however, willing to deny the problem and accept the loss of an unknown number of children on the basis that the success of public health policy - mandatory vaccination - by necessity involves sacrifice. Neither I, nor my colleagues subscribe to the belief that any child is expendable. History has encountered and dealt with such beliefs. You, the parent's and children, are the source of the inspiration and strength for our endeavours; our quest for truth through science - a science that is compassionate, uncompromising and uncompromised. I do not mean to stir you to mutiny, but be assured that armed with this science it is in your power to force this issue, in your pediatricians office, in Congress, in the Law Courts. Keep faith with your instincts - they have served you well."---Andy Wakefield (April 22, 2002 "POWER of ONE - IDEA" Rally, Washington DC)

While everyone just gets sicker and sicker:

"I've been practicing for 40 years, and in the past 10 years the children have been sicker than ever."--Dr Doris J.Rapp, pediatric allergist.

"Nearly half of Americans suffer at least one chronic disease, everything from allergies to heart disease - 20 million more than doctors had anticipated this year, researchers say. "--Media

g. or any evidence vaccination eliminated any disease such as polio:

"That the polio virus is the sole cause of polio is accepted by most people as gospel, and that the Salk and Sabin vaccines eradicated polio in the western world is etched into our collective consciousness as the major medical miracle of our time. But the history of polio and its vaccines is shrouded in a murky mist of politico/scientific manipulation, altered statistics, redefinition and reclassification of the disease, increased cases of vaccine induced paralytic polio, and monkey viruses transmitted by contaminated vaccines to millions of people worldwide."---Edda West

"The vaccination programs are irrelevant to the decline of polio, while pesticides correlate perfectly with polio. The unfunded, ostracized theory of poison causality far exceeds all other theories in simplicity, exactitude, and directness regarding correlations within all data areas: dosage, physiology, etiology, epidemiology, economics, and politics."--Jim West

They knew:

"The National Foundation For Infantile Paralysis (NFIP) used the "The March Of Dimes" to fund its polio research which lead to the Salk vaccine field trials in 1954. The Director Of Polio Research was Dr. Henry Kumm...He had spent 23 years on the staff of the Rockefeller Foundation for Medical Research before joining the NFIP in July, 1951...During World War II he had served as civilian consultant to the Surgeon General of the U.S. Army in Italy, directing field studies for the use of DDT against malarial mosquitoes in the marshes near Rome and Naples."--Jim West

At this point we hear "iron lungs". You should know the main reason kids ended up with bulbar polio and in iron lungs was due to vaccinators fad for removing tonsils:

"Dr. R. V. Southcott (Med. Jour. .Aust. 1953. ii. 281) believes that a child whose tonsils were removed at the usual age of 5-7 yrs suffers trauma to the nerves of the pharynx which increases susceptibility to bulbar poliomyelitis for at least ten years. In an outbreak in South Australia in 1947-48 he found that in 35 out of 39 cases of bulbar poliomyelitis the patient had been tonsillectomised."--M. Meadow Bayly, M.R.C.S.

and medical injections:

"I made the comment to the doctors that poliomyelitis, as a clinical entity was vary rare prior to the compulsory vaccination law around 1874. I said that my gut said that there was a link, because up until that time polio had floated around happily giving everyone natural immunity with just the very odd, amazingly rare clinical presentation. After 1874, there was an explosion in paralysis, and all the things so emotional shown in old news reels. And more people got paralytic polio with the use of the toxin anti-toxin diphtheria horse serum in the 1890’s."--Hilary Butler

"Provocation polio. That is the truth about those outbreaks of polio. And I offer a well considered personal opinion that polio is a man made disease."—Viera Scheibner.

[See: Provocation polio]

and if you wondered where "polio" went to then you may glean some idea from this :

"In June of 1959...all non-paralytic cases of poliomyelitis were to be henceforth recorded as 'meningitis, viral or aseptic,' a disease which itself only became reportable in 1952 (Canada)."--Catherine Diodati MA (Immunization History, Ethics, Law and Health p116)

[See: Hiding polio]

or the slightest evidence vaccination eliminated smallpox

"It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated." Dr Glen Dettman.

Even their chief smallpox expert admitted as much recently:

"If people are worried about endemic smallpox, it disappeared from this country not because of our mass herd immunity. It disappeared because of our economic development. And that's why it disappeared from Europe and many other countries, and it will not be sustained here, even if there were several importations, I'm sure. It's not from universal vaccination."----Dr. Mack (emphasis added)

In fact smallpox vaccination could be considered a rather effective biowarfare tool. They are still at it in Africa with the OPV vaccine

"Society is being weeded out right now, as minority species are being eliminated very specifically by biological germ warfare and other tactics meant to insure the elimination of those less genetically favourable...Our food is being tampered with, by the insertion of food additives and substances like aspartame. ....They view this as a massive genetic cleanup."--Thanks for the Memories: The Memoirs of Bob Hope's and Henry Kissinger's mind control slave by Brice Taylor p281

while ignoring for 200 years the real causes of smallpox------ sanitation and poverty:

"Sanitation did for Prussia what 35 years of compulsory vaccination was unable to accomplish. At the present time in Prussia small-pox is almost extinct. (Cheers.) It is not that people ‘are being vaccinated more; they are vaccinated less."----Dr Hadwen MD (The Case Against Vaccination ---an address at Gloucester on Saturday, January 25th, 1896, during the Gloucester Smallpox Epidemic)

"Perhaps the greatest evil of immunization lies in its diversion of public attention from true methods of disease prevention. It encourages public authorities to permit all kinds of sanitary defects and social problems to remain undressed, particularly in schools. It ignores the part played by food and sunlight and many other factors in the maintenance of health. It exaggerates the risk of diphtheria and works upon the fear of parents. The more it is supported by public authorities, the more will its dangers and disadvantages be concealed or denied." M. Meadow Bayly, M.R.C.S., 1944

[see: Smallpox conditions & prevention: Bedbugs Nutrition/diet Overcrowding Sanitation
[see: Nutrition & infection quotes]

3. The disease dangers have been exaggerated and fear propagated to sell the vaccination and pharmaceutical/allopathic medical paradigm.

4. The very popular 'vaccines are safe' lie [see:'Safe' vaccine lie];

"The conclusion time and time again is that the (MMR) vaccine is safe." Dr Elizabeth Miller Public Health Laboratory Service, 22 January, 2001

Industry quotes re: the "safe" MMR

The vaccines aren't safe unless you stretch the definition of "safe" to include death, numerous diseases, and serious brain damage! Breastfeeding is "safe".

"AT LEAST 26 families claim their children died as a result of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella jab, the Sunday Express can reveal. In some cases the Government has awarded parents up to £100,000 under its 1979 Vaccine Damage Payment Act. In others, post mortem reports concluded the jab was the most likely cause of death. Despite this, the Department of Health insists no child has ever died from MMR."--Media

They lie all the time.

5. Governments (and the mainstream media) are run by the Corporations, for the Corporations, so don't expect much light from that direction. It doesn't take much research to see the Elite control governments and make their money through their monopoly Corporations. This is Fascism according to Mussolini, it certainly feels like it.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power."--Benito Mussolini

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06/10/2007 11:54 PM
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Thanks for the good post, Let's talk it up!. I've already passed it on.
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06/11/2007 01:41 AM
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I KNEW THAT...yes I did...but I still HAD to get my kids their shots or they couldn't go to school

I home schooled my kids !

One vaccinated her kids...they all three have ADD (slightly)

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06/11/2007 03:35 AM
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I don't see what the holocaust has to do with a vaccination.
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06/11/2007 03:44 AM
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I wouldn't even vaccinate my dog with that poison least of all my kids.

Good post OP.
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