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Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens

 
PACNWguy
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Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
So often, we get caught up in a debate over political semantics and end up ignoring the hard-shell realities of what we're talking about.

According to ImmigrationCounters.com, here are some of the realities that Flake-Gutierrez Bill would airbrush out of the picture:


Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645

Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006
$22,213,001,672.00

Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996 - $397,450,739,563.00

Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools
3,958,789

Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996:
$13, 965,063,431.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated
332,594

Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001
$1,398,127,429.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives
642,799

Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens
9,872,838


Figures can trick your eyes. Take particular note that items 2,3,5, and 7 reflect BILLION not millions of dollars -- and that item 3 exceeds one-third of a TRILLION dollars.

Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of Illegals entering this country!!


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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
"Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645"

Are you fucking high?

Try 40-50 million. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of these genetic throwbacks with their stumpy little legs pushing a carriage full of ministumpies.

20 million

ROFLMAO
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06/13/2007 12:33 PM
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
if you want to be even more shocked
check out how much money WalMart has funneled to China in the last 10 years
these are dollars we will never see again
just what does China buy from us?
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06/13/2007 12:34 PM
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
other than land, of course
China is probably buying our land with their WalMart profits
what a scam
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
wtf


How about a

REAL SHOCKER,


US taxpayers fork over $5 Billion in welfare to Israel.


That doesn't include the war's of aggression waged at their behest either.



wtf
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
wtf


How about a

REAL SHOCKER,


US taxpayers fork over $5 Billion in welfare to Israel.


That doesn't include the war's of aggression waged at their behest either.



wtf
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That's not so bad when u consider they loan some of it back to us, at interest.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Thanks to RAYGUN and W-BUSH ! REAGAN RAISED TAXES 14% TO 15% for 33'500 tax bracket /Then over doubled FICA tax leaving the 30'000 tax payer paying 25% more!The guy making 1'000'000 got 380'000 more back ! CUT N RUN IN LEBANON ! SAVINGS & LOAN SCANDAL (FRED THOMPSON) 87 STOCK MARKET CRASH ! MORE ADM> CROOKS JAILED THAN EVER ! NATIONAL DEBT. WENT FROM UNDER 1 TRIL. to almost 4 TRIL. ! (BUT HE SAID TEAR DOWN THAT WALL) WHAT HAS (W) DONE? WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS ANOTHER ACTOR LIKE RONNIE TO LEAD OUR NATION !
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Wow, every once in a while, PNACdewd is right about something.

But his "Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country: 20,807,645" cracks me up.

I don't think anyone could come within 10,000,000 of the real figure.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Thanks to RAYGUN and W-BUSH ! REAGAN RAISED TAXES 14% TO 15% for 33'500 tax bracket /Then over doubled FICA tax leaving the 30'000 tax payer paying 25% more!The guy making 1'000'000 got 380'000 more back ! CUT N RUN IN LEBANON ! SAVINGS & LOAN SCANDAL (FRED THOMPSON) 87 STOCK MARKET CRASH ! MORE ADM> CROOKS JAILED THAN EVER ! NATIONAL DEBT. WENT FROM UNDER 1 TRIL. to almost 4 TRIL. ! (BUT HE SAID TEAR DOWN THAT WALL) WHAT HAS (W) DONE? WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS ANOTHER ACTOR LIKE RONNIE TO LEAD OUR NATION !
 Quoting: LogDog 231877

YEP!!! WE NEED ANOTHER RONNIE THOUGH!! GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!! ( bwa ha ha! i love hijacking threads!)
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Thanks to RAYGUN and W-BUSH ! REAGAN RAISED TAXES 14% TO 15% for 33'500 tax bracket /Then over doubled FICA tax leaving the 30'000 tax payer paying 25% more!The guy making 1'000'000 got 380'000 more back ! CUT N RUN IN LEBANON ! SAVINGS & LOAN SCANDAL (FRED THOMPSON) 87 STOCK MARKET CRASH ! MORE ADM> CROOKS JAILED THAN EVER ! NATIONAL DEBT. WENT FROM UNDER 1 TRIL. to almost 4 TRIL. ! (BUT HE SAID TEAR DOWN THAT WALL) WHAT HAS (W) DONE? WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS ANOTHER ACTOR LIKE RONNIE TO LEAD OUR NATION !

YEP!!! WE NEED ANOTHER RONNIE THOUGH!! GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!! ( bwa ha ha! i love hijacking threads!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647

reagan was, PNACguy's favorite president..........LOL
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Thanks to RAYGUN and W-BUSH ! REAGAN RAISED TAXES 14% TO 15% for 33'500 tax bracket /Then over doubled FICA tax leaving the 30'000 tax payer paying 25% more!The guy making 1'000'000 got 380'000 more back ! CUT N RUN IN LEBANON ! SAVINGS & LOAN SCANDAL (FRED THOMPSON) 87 STOCK MARKET CRASH ! MORE ADM> CROOKS JAILED THAN EVER ! NATIONAL DEBT. WENT FROM UNDER 1 TRIL. to almost 4 TRIL. ! (BUT HE SAID TEAR DOWN THAT WALL) WHAT HAS (W) DONE? WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS ANOTHER ACTOR LIKE RONNIE TO LEAD OUR NATION !

YEP!!! WE NEED ANOTHER RONNIE THOUGH!! GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!! ( bwa ha ha! i love hijacking threads!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647

RON PAUL AND SOME UNDERDOGS LOOK GREAT UP NEXT TO C.F.R. /TRI-LAT / AND THE REST OF THE GLOBALIST !
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
So often, we get caught up in a debate over political semantics and end up ignoring the hard-shell realities of what we're talking about.

According to ImmigrationCounters.com, here are some of the realities that Flake-Gutierrez Bill would airbrush out of the picture:


Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645

Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006
$22,213,001,672.00

Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996 - $397,450,739,563.00

Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools
3,958,789

Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996:
$13, 965,063,431.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated
332,594

Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001
$1,398,127,429.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives
642,799

Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens
9,872,838


Figures can trick your eyes. Take particular note that items 2,3,5, and 7 reflect BILLION not millions of dollars -- and that item 3 exceeds one-third of a TRILLION dollars.

Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of Illegals entering this country!!


:invasion2:
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so fucking what? At least you don't have to worry about them fucking up your precious country, as its already a total shit hole thanks to shit heels you.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Why don't you piss off & watch "24" you pathetic Jack Bauer impersonating douche.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
wtf


How about a

REAL SHOCKER,


US taxpayers fork over $5 Billion in welfare to Israel.


That doesn't include the war's of aggression waged at their behest either.



wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 251130
AND THATS JUST TO 22 FAMILIES ! 360,000 BILLION ON NATIONAL DEBT. BY TWO REPUKE PRESIDENTS! (A YEAR)
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
How about the trillions of dollars are nation shells out to the terror sponsoring countries of OPEC on an almost annual basis? And of course the money are gas tanks are sucking in are going to creat munitions against our own soldiers as well as our allies.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
I visited the 'ImmigrationCounters.com' source material and a cursory search revealed none of the figures the OP cites - in fact, the site is dedicated to assisting immigrants with a variety of services to obtaining citizenship.

As much as I agree with others posting on this thread... I'd like to know the TRUE source of the OP's stats so I can use them accurately.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Good post Pac, but there are more than 30 million illegals here.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
What about the trillions lost due to exporting our entire manufacturing base to china? I don't think there anywhere near 20,000,000 illegals in the US, mexicans yes but not illegals, all of the illegal stuff is to provide cheap labor to large corporations like fast food chains that could not exist if they paid a decent wage.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
What about the trillions lost due to exporting our entire manufacturing base to china? I don't think there anywhere near 20,000,000 illegals in the US, mexicans yes but not illegals, all of the illegal stuff is to provide cheap labor to large corporations like fast food chains that could not exist if they paid a decent wage.
 Quoting: Shiv 251297


iamwith

Lazy americans : they want cheap products and cheap labor and they hate illegals alliens and chinesse products.
rant
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Lazy americans : they want cheap products and cheap labor and they hate illegals alliens and chinesse products.
rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 211548

Nah, if we hated Chinese products, we couldn't buy anything!
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Acording to the Census there are 302 million "Americans".

42 million are "Hispanic" but that doesn't include anyone living in institutions (prison, etc) nor those WHO DO NOT RESPOND TO THE CENSUS, such as "illegals" or those who respond that the are "White" hispanics, like the guys on this search-

[link to images.google.com]

The Government claims that Hispanics represent 14.9% of the US
population which would be 45 million.

If the number were less 75 million total, I'd be shocked.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Wow, that's a level of racism I can barely fathom.

You are an Idiot.

"Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645"

Are you fucking high?

Try 40-50 million. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of these genetic throwbacks with their stumpy little legs pushing a carriage full of ministumpies.

20 million

ROFLMAO
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if you want to be even more shocked
check out how much money WalMart has funneled to China in the last 10 years
these are dollars we will never see again
just what does China buy from us?
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not a fucking thing of any consequence
I say burn all of your bridges while you still have control of the flame
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Read what our dick head mayor said below about illegals being arrested.
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165 Arrested In Immigration Sting

PORTLAND - Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials arrested 165 people Tuesday after raiding three locations looking for undocumented workers.

American Staffing Resources is a contract company that provides staffing service for fruit and vegetable processing plant, Fresh Del Monte.

ICE officials raided the ASR office on North Lombard, their satellite office inside Fresh Del Monte and Fresh Del Monte itself. It was at these locations where officials arrested three managers for knowingly hiring undocumented workers and supplying them with false documentation.

The investigation began six months ago after officials received tips. Investigators then sent in an undercover informant posing as someone looking for employment at Fresh Del Monte.

He was told by an ASR representative that a fake social security card would be O.K., as long as it looked like an official government document.

Officials say up to 90 employees had fraudulent or forged social security cards, some of which displayed the real social security of juveniles, the elderly or people who have died. Fake green cards were issued as well.

All but 30 of the 165 people taken into custody will be transported to a federal facility in Tacoma, Wash. Those 30 were released for health reasons or to care for dependents, but they too face a federal immigration judge.

Portland Mayor Tom Potter says he's unhappy with how the raids were carried out.

He released this statement: "I am angered by this morning's arrest by federal officers of approximately 150 Portland residents who were working at a local produce company. I certainly understand why federal officials executed criminal warrants against three individuals who stole and sold Social Security numbers. But to go after local workers who are here to support their families while filling the demands of local businesses for their labor is bad policy."

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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Wow, that's a level of racism I can barely fathom.

You are an Idiot.


"Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645"

Are you fucking high?

Try 40-50 million. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of these genetic throwbacks with their stumpy little legs pushing a carriage full of ministumpies.

20 million

ROFLMAO

 Quoting: Reflecting Pool 104063


And yet I stand by it.

Isn't that refreshing?
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
Wish I could post pics.

I guess you'll have to click to get an eyeful of this mamasita

[link to mooreslore.corante.com]
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
The Us is going down from the exporting of jobs and debt, the media is trying to push it off on the "illegals" and might get a race war out of it at the same time, because most people are dumb enough to believe the whole immigration scam.
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
remember that the man waging a "clash of civilizations" war on behest of interests not of the people, is opening up the borders.the death of the republic is in its last act. evil men at this moment are initiating the "self prophesy" of confrontation with russia,resulting in a atomic war that will destroy the northmans law inspired culture in the americas.these illegal masses will act as a fifth column.the grand experiment will disolve with the elite safe in europe.time is short, the self prophesy must coincide with a natural global disaster, such magnitude that the masses will beleive it is divine intervention
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
I welcome my Latino brothers and sisters with open arms!

Their form of invasion is far more gentle than that of Israel of 1948 or the US of 2003.

Remember, they didn't just trek up from Mexico City to infiltrate our country. We lured them to within 75 miles of their border to work in our border factories, when it was fashionable.

Along comes China willing to labor for even less so we start closing the the border factories. What are these folks suppost to do? Trek back to M.C., the world's most populous city or go the 75 miles to the US of A?

They are ready to be legitimized and start paying into our SS Ponzi Scheme (some do already) and if we can stop these $500,000,000,000 wars, SS may even be there for you and me!
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Damn illegal aliens! They come here, abduct us, have their way with us, do horrible things to us with anal probes and then expect us to turn the other way and not talk about it. Typical! alien16 ufo56 alien03 alien11 alienship
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Re: Some interesting eye opening stats on illegal aliens
I welcome my Latino brothers and sisters with open arms!

Their form of invasion is far more gentle than that of Israel of 1948 or the US of 2003.

Remember, they didn't just trek up from Mexico City to infiltrate our country. We lured them to within 75 miles of their border to work in our border factories, when it was fashionable.

Along comes China willing to labor for even less so we start closing the the border factories. What are these folks suppost to do? Trek back to M.C., the world's most populous city or go the 75 miles to the US of A?

They are ready to be legitimized and start paying into our SS Ponzi Scheme (some do already) and if we can stop these $500,000,000,000 wars, SS may even be there for you and me!
 Quoting: ButchHowdy



Look, Carlos, Juan or Armando, as the case may be:

We don't give a SHIT if they are "ready to be legitimized".

They are CRIMINALS who invaded our country, use false ID's , act irresponsibly, steal our cars, burglarize our homes, and we need to eliminate this infestation.

Short of shooting them, which I do not recommend at this time, we need to arrest them, jail them for six months, and then DEPORT them. This includes YOU also.

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