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Ron Paul Texas two-step
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340
6/16/2007 12:42 PM
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CONSTITUTION: PROMOTE THE COMMON WELFARE
Any antidote for giveaway to people programs goes like this: DECENT PAYING JOBS!
A slogan which seems to give mainstream business-management a bad case of the hives.
No jobs, no public assistance = INSTANT NO AMERICA.
I mean instant, as in burn-baby-burn.
Idealism is idealism, Constitutional or otherwise. The real deal is fought in the alleys which I am sure the good Dr. Paul is about to find out.
Yank public assistance overnight, won't work.
Send 40,000,000 illegals back to Mex, won't work
PERIOD
So what's the plan, Dan?
If I were out on the streets now, which I'm not. I'd organize all the common folk into one big honkin UNION.
Yea, a union. Only way to prevent cultural cannibalism. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 12:49 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Did I mention union? Attaboy Kento.
Neocon “Scholars” Call for Dismembering Bill of Rights
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
One more time: UNION complete with Mexicans who seem to know how to do the streets. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 191784
6/16/2007 12:49 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
If you want big government, unions, and a welfare state, why don't you move to China? |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 12:56 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
If you want big government, unions, and a welfare state, why don't you move to China? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 191784
Sorry, I remember the days when the Union went face to face with bigshot government goons. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 12:59 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
These Neocon mobsters are so bad that I really doubt Ron Paul will make it through scrimmage line. |
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Claycat
User ID: 252813
6/16/2007 1:14 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Kent, I was watching Bill Moyers last night, and he had a man by the name of Stern on. He is the head of the SEIU, and they are gaining a lot of power. It seemed very promising. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252084
6/16/2007 1:21 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
America is bankrupt - insolvent.
Whatever public welfare programs are currently being instituted are done so via loans from non-US entities.
What you're asking is for is a continuation of this debt nightmare that is is only being sustained through warmongering and threats by the US Fed because those YOU support sold the US people out to slave labour, both domestic and overseas years ago. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252084
6/16/2007 1:23 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
PERIOD
So what's the plan, Dan?
If I were out on the streets now, which I'm not. I'd organize all the common folk into one big honkin UNION.
Yea, a union. Only way to prevent cultural cannibalism. Quoting: Emperor Kenton 213340
Where were you a decade ago?
That's right - you didn't give a fuck because there was no Ron Paul threatening to cave the illusion in. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 1:37 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Kent, I was watching Bill Moyers last night, and he had a man by the name of Stern on. He is the head of the SEIU, and they are gaining a lot of power. It seemed very promising. Quoting: Claycat 252813
International Justice Day: Janitors and Security Officers Stand for Justice
[link to www.seiu.org]
Effective. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252824
6/16/2007 1:37 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
CONSTITUTION: PROMOTE THE COMMON WELFARE
Any antidote for giveaway to people programs goes like this: DECENT PAYING JOBS!
A slogan which seems to give mainstream business-management a bad case of the hives.
No jobs, no public assistance = INSTANT NO AMERICA.
I mean instant, as in burn-baby-burn.
Idealism is idealism, Constitutional or otherwise. The real deal is fought in the alleys which I am sure the good Dr. Paul is about to find out.
Yank public assistance overnight, won't work.
Send 40,000,000 illegals back to Mex, won't work
PERIOD
So what's the plan, Dan?
If I were out on the streets now, which I'm not. I'd organize all the common folk into one big honkin UNION.
Yea, a union. Only way to prevent cultural cannibalism. Quoting: Emperor Kenton 213340
You definitely work for obama |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 1:39 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
That's right - you didn't give a fuck because there was no Ron Paul threatening to cave the illusion in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252084
Which illusion is that?
America? The body that the Neocons are caving in? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 1:44 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
You definitely work for obama Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252824
Who knows, as yet to commit. I want to see solutions from RP.
"to Promote the General Welfare" <<Constitutional.
So far although RP on the surface Constitutionally-correct, I'm not sure I see his plan--a bit of an idealist it seems, well, airhead. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252084
6/16/2007 1:46 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
That's right - you didn't give a fuck because there was no Ron Paul threatening to cave the illusion in.
Which illusion is that?
America? The body that the Neocons are caving in? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 213340
The illusion that the US isn't being fleeced by individuals falsely claiming to collect money from citizens in the form of taxes for their GENERAL WELFARE.
The illusion that the US Government is so far in debt that it is literally impossible for it to pay the money back - you know, like those Third World nations Bono prattles on about from his tax haven in the Netherlands?
The US Government is in the same boat. The only reason it continues to float is because everyone holding their IOU's is being held to ransom. Not for very much longer though.
Where will you be, Steadman, when the walls of "reality" come crashing down around the American people shortly?
Who will you blame?
Ron Paul? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147938
6/16/2007 1:54 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
You definitely work for obama
Who knows, as yet to commit. I want to see solutions from RP.
"to Promote the General Welfare" <<Constitutional.
So far although RP on the surface Constitutionally-correct, I'm not sure I see his plan--a bit of an idealist it seems, well, airhead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 213340
Ron Paul is not for you. You're, obviously a socialist/communist. That's your right, but it's antithetical to the republic established by the Constitution. And, your obsession with the preamble, while ignoring the actual body of the Constituion, and your obtuseness over the term "general welfare", exemplifies your lack of education on the Constitution, or your agenda against it. If you prefer a communist or socialist government, you should move to a country which is consistant with your ideals. |
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Mickeyblue
User ID: 170038
6/16/2007 2:04 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
It is not quite as simple as it seems what he is saying. First of all he wants to get the federal government out of states issues, to return to the states those things which belong to them to handle. Years ago when this new direction was navigated, the turning over to the feds the monies for schools and all other states things, our representative who was a Democrat told his constituents this would be a very bad deal,and it has been as it has taken from the states their tax payer dollars and then the feds mandate what you need to conform to to have their piecemeal returned under their dictates. You can read his position on this and other issues at any number of places on the interent and then decide how you feel about being on the government tit which is telling uss they will take care of us from cradle to grave, but this gloved hand is not kind nor generous. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 2:13 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Where will you be, Steadman, when the walls of "reality" come crashing down around the American people shortly?
Who will you blame?
Ron Paul? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252084
I am SPECIFICALLY displeased with that Brat-dink Bush and his pack of thugs.
But if as you say it is coming down well then it is coming down...
Where will you be? If you still have remaining perks best not flash them around-- not anywhere near downtown America or any other satellite spa. An island? Bad idea.
I'm an old man, where I will be not a big deal....probably in the streets where I've been before.
Will I survive? Probably not, and in the larger sense definitely not. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252841
6/16/2007 2:15 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
If you want big government, unions, and a welfare state, why don't you move to China? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 191784
And why don't you move to...oops, Nazi Germany already went down in flames. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 2:17 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
It is not quite as simple as it seems what he is saying. First of all he wants to get the federal government out of states issues, to return to the states those things which belong to them to handle. Years ago when this new direction was navigated, the turning over to the feds the monies for schools and all other states things, our representative who was a Democrat told his constituents this would be a very bad deal,and it has been as it has taken from the states their tax payer dollars and then the feds mandate what you need to conform to to have their piecemeal returned under their dictates. You can read his position on this and other issues at any number of places on the interent and then decide how you feel about being on the government tit which is telling uss they will take care of us from cradle to grave, but this gloved hand is not kind nor generous. Quoting: Mickeyblue 170038
Thank You, excellent post at issue |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 147938
6/16/2007 2:20 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
BTW, I saw a speech that Ron Paul gave, where he talked about the dependent class of people we have in the US, and how no abrupt changes can be made. He fully understands that we have genuinely dependent people, and institutionalized poverty. RP and his supporters are looking for a course of correction, and a return to freedom, not jerking the rug out from under anyone, or punishing the little guy. We ARE the little guys, and the corporatocracy hates Ron Paul. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 2:21 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Mickeyblue But then what is RP's strategy?
Beyond the theory. He is now elected to the Presidency. What does he do?
Does he have that touch where you yank the tablecloth and the dinnerware remains? |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/16/2007 2:23 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
BTW, I saw a speech that Ron Paul gave, where he talked about the dependent class of people we have in the US, and how no abrupt changes can be made. He fully understands that we have genuinely dependent people, and institutionalized poverty. RP and his supporters are looking for a course of correction, and a return to freedom, not jerking the rug out from under anyone, or punishing the little guy. We ARE the little guys, and the corporatocracy hates Ron Paul. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147938
Thanks, wonder about this course? It will take immense charisma for starters. |
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Mickeyblue
User ID: 170038
6/16/2007 2:29 PM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
No! He does not and that is not a part of anyone's intentions, the disruption would be immediate,swiftly ending in utter chaos. If you ,providing there is sufficient interest, want to have a better grasp, read all of what he says, review what he has consistantly voted in behalf of and remarks dealing with how he arrived at a vote for or nay and you might find his temperment, his manner in dealing realistically with challenges.
Thanks EK for kind remarks. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/17/2007 9:24 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
BTW, I saw a speech that Ron Paul gave, where he talked about the dependent class of people we have in the US, and how no abrupt changes can be made. He fully understands that we have genuinely dependent people, and institutionalized poverty. RP and his supporters are looking for a course of correction, and a return to freedom, not jerking the rug out from under anyone, or punishing the little guy. We ARE the little guys, and the corporatocracy hates Ron Paul. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 147938
Having previously linked to many RP videos, I am now asking this specific question from my website:
"Dear RP, How do you intend to "promote the general Welfare?"
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
If you can recommend a video or interview towards as you say, "not jerking the rug out from under anyone, or punishing the little guy." I would love to view it and post it.
Genuinely for myself and others this is the big RP question. Many are very uneasy after the Neocon-effect to vote for another Republican regardless of what the the candidates say during the campaigns.
The trust is low. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 229073
6/17/2007 9:37 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Here is a blurb that I copied from another website concerning Ron Paul. Can any of these claims be substantiated?
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Sadly Ron Paul is my US Representative here in Galveston County TX - I have followed his long political career and IMO he is mostly on the kook fringe...
Certainly he spouts a few good ideas that most conservatives endorse however he is at heart a member of the "Libertarian Party" and previously ran for president years ago on their national platform
His only real claim to fame is that each year he introduces in the House a bill to legalize the growing of "Hemp" (i.e. marijuana) in the US - which is a key tenant of the Libertarian Party (i.e. legalize all illegal drugs)...
Paul also endorses the Libertarian position that demands that the US suspend all foreign military aid to Israel which ranges from 1 to 2 billion dollars annually...
Paul has also publically stated that the US should grant full constitutional rights (freedom) to the islamo-terrorists being held prisoner at GITMO in Cuba
He only switched over and called himself a "Rep" when he was unable to get elected to any office as an active member of the Libertarian Party...
The good news IMO is that he now has three opponents that are running against him for the local House of Rep seat from my district - |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252084
6/17/2007 9:40 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Paul also endorses the Libertarian position that demands that the US suspend all foreign military aid to Israel which ranges from 1 to 2 billion dollars annually... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 229073
WOW!
What
A
Kook.
You've convinced me. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252084
6/17/2007 9:46 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Where will you be, Steadman, when the walls of "reality" come crashing down around the American people shortly?
Who will you blame?
Ron Paul?
I am SPECIFICALLY displeased with that Brat-dink Bush and his pack of thugs.
But if as you say it is coming down well then it is coming down...
Where will you be? If you still have remaining perks best not flash them around-- not anywhere near downtown America or any other satellite spa. An island? Bad idea.
I'm an old man, where I will be not a big deal....probably in the streets where I've been before.
Will I survive? Probably not, and in the larger sense definitely not. Quoting: Emperor Kenton 213340
Exactly. You're an old man so don't give a fuck either way. Therefore you will gladly suck Federal Reserve/IRS/Jew dick for their spare change all the while skirting the issue that these people are the ones who have bankrupted the US. At the same time you pay out on the only one that wants to pull back the curtain to expose these evil figures to the deluded masses that have been pulling the levers all this time - Ron Paul. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/17/2007 9:58 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Paul also endorses the Libertarian position that demands that the US suspend all foreign military aid to Israel which ranges from 1 to 2 billion dollars annually... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 229073
Ok then this begs a wider although dogleg question:
If the the USA is friggin bankrupt why is any foreign aid being sent to anybody at all?
HUH?
I really don't understand Economics at all, it almost seems to be like a street corner shell game.
I am reading here:
History of economics
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
What a diverse hodgepodge deal!
and so far:
I really don't understand Economics at all, it almost seems to be like a street corner shell game. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/17/2007 10:13 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Exactly. You're an old man so don't give a fuck either way. Therefore you will gladly suck Federal Reserve/IRS/Jew dick for their spare change all the while skirting the issue that these people are the ones who have bankrupted the US. At the same time you pay out on the only one that wants to pull back the curtain to expose these evil figures to the deluded masses that have been pulling the levers all this time - Ron Paul. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 252084
see, this is another reason why I am painstakingly asking questions about RP.
Some of his supporters seem obsessed almost like Elvis groupies, or even worse, the same groupies that got the Brat elected in 2000.
Almost a religious zeal, "support Ron Paul or piss off the ghosts of Tom Jefferson and Jesus."
Well I am going off to read more about Economics Ron Paul, the Constitution and the source of the Constitution...
...such as the Constitution of the Iroquois Confederation where it all started.
[link to usinfo.state.gov] |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340 (OP)
6/17/2007 10:15 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 170016
6/17/2007 10:40 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
CONSTITUTION: PROMOTE THE COMMON WELFARE
Any antidote for giveaway to people programs goes like this: DECENT PAYING JOBS!
A slogan which seems to give mainstream business-management a bad case of the hives.
No jobs, no public assistance = INSTANT NO AMERICA.
I mean instant, as in burn-baby-burn.
Idealism is idealism, Constitutional or otherwise. The real deal is fought in the alleys which I am sure the good Dr. Paul is about to find out.
Yank public assistance overnight, won't work.
Send 40,000,000 illegals back to Mex, won't work
PERIOD
So what's the plan, Dan?
If I were out on the streets now, which I'm not. I'd organize all the common folk into one big honkin UNION.
Yea, a union. Only way to prevent cultural cannibalism. Quoting: Emperor Kenton 213340
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 252084
6/17/2007 11:52 AM | | Re: Ron Paul Texas two-step | Quote |
Exactly. You're an old man so don't give a fuck either way. Therefore you will gladly suck Federal Reserve/IRS/Jew dick for their spare change all the while skirting the issue that these people are the ones who have bankrupted the US. At the same time you pay out on the only one that wants to pull back the curtain to expose these evil figures to the deluded masses that have been pulling the levers all this time - Ron Paul.
see, this is another reason why I am painstakingly asking questions about RP.
Some of his supporters seem obsessed almost like Elvis groupies, or even worse, the same groupies that got the Brat elected in 2000.
Almost a religious zeal, "support Ron Paul or piss off the ghosts of Tom Jefferson and Jesus."
Well I am going off to read more about Economics Ron Paul, the Constitution and the source of the Constitution...
...such as the Constitution of the Iroquois Confederation where it all started.
[ link to usinfo.state.gov]
Put it this way:
If he's elected and reveals that he's a mason or supports open borders, globalisation, Amero, Zionism, AIPAC or the JDL then he's dogmeat.
How's that for blind faith and devotion? You'll find his supporters are of like mind.
You'll need to find another angle to target, Kent, to discredit Ron Paul and his supporters that DOESN'T smack of sheer desperation.
So far you've offered nothing but. |
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