Salman Rushdie to be knighted - Iran to go mental --UPDATED | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 245332 United States 06/17/2007 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | INSULTING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BY HONORING A MAN THAT INFERRED THAT MUHAMMED AND SATAN HAVE A SIMILAR HERITAGE IS ONLY, 'STIRRING THE POT' AS SOMEONE HERE SAID. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2298 United States 06/17/2007 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE CORRECT WAY TO DEAL WITH RELIGIONS IS TO EDUCATE WITH THE MOST ADVANCED KNOWLDGE POSSIBLE. WHEN YOU SEE ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE, REMEMBER AND REPEAT IT TO ALL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245332INSULTING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BY HONORING A MAN THAT INFERRED THAT MUHAMMED AND SATAN HAVE A SIMILAR HERITAGE IS ONLY, 'STIRRING THE POT' AS SOMEONE HERE SAID. Why shouldn't religious people be insulted or criticized if someone wants to. Are they off-limits for some reason? I don't see why they should be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 252084 Australia 06/17/2007 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE CORRECT WAY TO DEAL WITH RELIGIONS IS TO EDUCATE WITH THE MOST ADVANCED KNOWLDGE POSSIBLE. WHEN YOU SEE ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE, REMEMBER AND REPEAT IT TO ALL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2298INSULTING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BY HONORING A MAN THAT INFERRED THAT MUHAMMED AND SATAN HAVE A SIMILAR HERITAGE IS ONLY, 'STIRRING THE POT' AS SOMEONE HERE SAID. Why shouldn't religious people be insulted or criticized if someone wants to. Are they off-limits for some reason? I don't see why they should be. I agree with Salman's book and his right to publish it without threat of violence. Is it worthy of a fucking knighthood though other than to keep inter-ethnic tension in the UK high? DEFINITELY NOT. Jews bring them in - force everyone to unreseverdly accept them as equals, then stir the nest by doing. Read the Talmud. All their justification for causing social upheaval, death and destruction to Christians in particular is there. No conspiracy whatsoever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 132975 United Kingdom 06/17/2007 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess a fatwa calling for the Queen's head is in order... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22138I doubt very much whether even the most rabid Islamo-nut would dare to lay a fatwa on any member of the Royal Family. Our nuclear subs would go into action! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 253382 Czechia 06/17/2007 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE CORRECT WAY TO DEAL WITH RELIGIONS IS TO EDUCATE WITH THE MOST ADVANCED KNOWLDGE POSSIBLE. WHEN YOU SEE ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE, REMEMBER AND REPEAT IT TO ALL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2298INSULTING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BY HONORING A MAN THAT INFERRED THAT MUHAMMED AND SATAN HAVE A SIMILAR HERITAGE IS ONLY, 'STIRRING THE POT' AS SOMEONE HERE SAID. Why shouldn't religious people be insulted or criticized if someone wants to. Are they off-limits for some reason? I don't see why they should be. WHY SHOULDN'T RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BE INSULTED? NO ONE IS OFF LIMITS BUT WE ALL KNOW WHY PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE INSULTED. IT TENDS TO SHUT THE INSULTED UP BUT ANY FUTURE COMMUNICATION IS DESTROYED. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU LEAD WITH BETTER KNOWLEDGE, YOU HAVE A CHANCE OF THEM LEARNING SOMETHING AND THEY MAY BECOME AGREEABLE. THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BETTER KNOWLEDGE OR QUICKLY FORGET ANY BETTER KNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU HEAR IT, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FORCED TO RESORT TO INSULTS. |
Grizzled Old Goat (OP) User ID: 253430 Canada 06/17/2007 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mullahs up the ante on Rushdie fatwa.. NGO to Award $150,000 to Executor of Salman Rushdie Iran Gov't news agency.. [link to www.farsnews.com] TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- An Iranian Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) announced that it would pay a $150,000 prize to anyone who could put into effect a death sentence decree issued by the Late Founder of the Islamic Republic, Imam Khomeini, against Salman Rushdie for blasphemy. Secretary General of the Headquarters for Honoring the Martyrs of Islam World Movement Forouz Raja'ee-Far told FNA here on Sunday that his headquarters had announced in 2004 that it would pay $100,000 to anyone who could put into effect Imam Khomeini's verdict and that after 3 years it has now raised the prize to $150,000. Indian-born British author Salman Rushdie crushed Muslims' sentiments and beliefs and sparked protests in Muslim countries around the world with his book The Satanic Verses. In 1989 the late Founder of the Islamic Republic Imam Khomeini issued a verdict of death sentence against him for blasphemy. The move by the Iranian NGO follows a recent controversial move by the British Queen who awarded Rushdie with a knighthood. Raja'ee-Far reminded that many world Muslims have voiced preparedness to exercise Imam Khomeini's verdict since it was issued in 1989. "And that's why Salman Rushdie has been living with continued nightmares during all these 18 years," he continued. The NGO secretary general also added, "According to Imam Khomeini's verdict, it is an obligation for all Muslims to kill Salman Rushdie even if he repents from the bottom of his heart and becomes the pious man of the time." "Also according to Imam's verdict, if a non-Muslim person can find and execute Rushdie sooner than Muslims, it will be an obligation for Muslims to provide such a person with whatever he wants as his payment or prize," he reminded. Earlier on Sunday, Iranian foreign ministry lambasted Britain for having awarded Salman Rushdie with a knighthood, saying the measure reveals the anti-Islam stances of the senior British officials. "This move will certainly place the British officials and statesmen against the Islamic societies," Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Seyed Mohammad Ali Hosseini told reporters during his weekly press conference here in Tehran today. "This action displays that insults to Islamic sanctities is not a haphazard move and that it is a pre-planned movement guided and supported by certain western countries," he continued. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 132975 United Kingdom 06/17/2007 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How would you feel if she knighted David Duke? Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatSame shit really... Utter nonsense - Rushdie was criticising his OWN culture. Duke reserves his hatreds for the "others".. Good point, GOG. Rushdie is nothing, if not a comedian and ironicist! |
mathetes User ID: 233081 United States 06/17/2007 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real Satanic verses: Muhammad basically said it was alright to worship idols and then changed his mind saying Satan made him say it!Al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat were some of the local idols worshiped in Mecca. Previously Muhammad had spoken against them in his monotheist preaching but now he recited that their "intercession is approved". When Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him ... Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion". (Ibn Ishaq, p. 166) This is when he (Muhammad) did not have much power, but things changed when his followers grew in strength! Satan ... put upon his (Muhammad's) tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq [4] whose intercession is approved". (Ibn Ishaq, pp. 165-166) Hence the Satanic verses For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Grizzled Old Goat (OP) User ID: 253430 Canada 06/17/2007 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real Satanic verses: Quoting: mathetesMuhammad basically said it was alright to worship idols and then changed his mind saying Satan made him say it!Al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat were some of the local idols worshiped in Mecca. Previously Muhammad had spoken against them in his monotheist preaching but now he recited that their "intercession is approved". When Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him ... Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion". (Ibn Ishaq, p. 166) This is when he (Muhammad) did not have much power, but things changed when his followers grew in strength! Satan ... put upon his (Muhammad's) tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq [4] whose intercession is approved". (Ibn Ishaq, pp. 165-166) Hence the Satanic verses According to David Hawkins - a giant among secular spiritual teachers - Muhammad was very spiritually advanced at the time of the writing of the Qu'ran - although not reaching the perfect enlightenment of Jesus, Buddha or Krishna. He was swallowed by the darker forces - thanks in part to his acceptance of his "godlike" status among his followers - leading to a fall in spiritual consciousness all the way down to a fully dualistic POV - which led to violence, conquest and the enduring suffering of the Muslim people, who are captured in a non-evolving religion. I tend to agree with his assessment.. [link to davidhawkins.info] |
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icey ice User ID: 253704 United States 06/18/2007 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I doubt very much whether even the most rabid Islamo-nut would dare to lay a fatwa on any member of the Royal Family. Our nuclear subs would go into action!" Now, not that I disagree with Mr. Rushdies freedom of speech against whoever hates it (including those book-banning israelites), but why do people care so much about the "royal" family? really? nuclear subs?? stop watching the tv, weirdo! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 253408 United Kingdom 06/18/2007 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real Satanic verses: Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatMuhammad basically said it was alright to worship idols and then changed his mind saying Satan made him say it!Al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat were some of the local idols worshiped in Mecca. Previously Muhammad had spoken against them in his monotheist preaching but now he recited that their "intercession is approved". When Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him ... Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion". (Ibn Ishaq, p. 166) This is when he (Muhammad) did not have much power, but things changed when his followers grew in strength! Satan ... put upon his (Muhammad's) tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq [4] whose intercession is approved". (Ibn Ishaq, pp. 165-166) Hence the Satanic verses According to David Hawkins - a giant among secular spiritual teachers - Muhammad was very spiritually advanced at the time of the writing of the Qu'ran - although not reaching the perfect enlightenment of Jesus, Buddha or Krishna. He was swallowed by the darker forces - thanks in part to his acceptance of his "godlike" status among his followers - leading to a fall in spiritual consciousness all the way down to a fully dualistic POV - which led to violence, conquest and the enduring suffering of the Muslim people, who are captured in a non-evolving religion. I tend to agree with his assessment.. [link to davidhawkins.info] Sounds like Judaism. |
jarha User ID: 109238 United States 06/18/2007 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real Satanic verses: Quoting: mathetesMuhammad basically said it was alright to worship idols and then changed his mind saying Satan made him say it!Al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat were some of the local idols worshiped in Mecca. Previously Muhammad had spoken against them in his monotheist preaching but now he recited that their "intercession is approved". When Quraysh heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they listened to him ... Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted at what had been said about their gods, saying, "Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid fashion". (Ibn Ishaq, p. 166) This is when he (Muhammad) did not have much power, but things changed when his followers grew in strength! Satan ... put upon his (Muhammad's) tongue "these are the exalted Gharaniq [4] whose intercession is approved". (Ibn Ishaq, pp. 165-166) Hence the Satanic verses Satan ... put upon his (Muhammad's) tongue AND THEY FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP "Iran has criticised the British government for its decision to give a knighthood to author Salman Rushdie." THOSE 'SATAN' WORSHIPERS THINK THEY CAN RULE WORLD |
jarha User ID: 109238 United States 06/18/2007 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the span of a decade, the Ayatollah Khomeini has twice challenged Western civilization's deepest norms. By permitting a seizure of the American embassy, in November 1979, he violated the most hallowed laws of Western diplomacy. In February 1989, he struck again, by calling for the murder of British novelist Salman Rushdie, and of his publishers. NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT AGAIN |