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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/12/2019 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) [link to www.ukrinform.net (secure)] Canadian MP: NATO submarines may ‘unexpectedly’ appear in Black Sea |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/12/2019 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) Moscow mulls revising Montreux Convention in response to NATO presence in Black Sea [link to www.ukrweekly.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/12/2019 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) HNMLS EVERTSEN (NETHERLANDS) LEAD SHIP OF NATO GROUP CONSTANTA, ROMANIA [link to www.marinevesseltraffic.com (secure)] THINK ABOUT THE DEPLOYMENT OF THOSE MISSILES TO ROMANIA THIS YEAR/SUMMER NATO GROUP IS UNDER ROMANIANS |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) Ukraine is set to build a military base on the Azov Sea and has sent more forces to the area to counter a worsening Russian threat Reuters 14:18 Ukraine's military staged air-defence drills on Saturday in the country's east, next to the sea of Azov. Military jets and helicopters took part in the exercises some 150 kilometres (93 miles) off the rebel-held Donetsk. 50% Continues at source: [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) No NATO country will taunt the Russians' in the Black Sea Latest update : 14/04/2019 Article text by Stéphanie TROUILLARD Washington is working on a plan to send new NATO ships to the Black Sea in response to the November armed clash between the Russian and Ukrainian navies off the annexed Crimean Peninsula. On April 3, the United States announced its intention to strengthen NATO's military presence in the Black Sea by sending new ships. "We will ensure that we have the capacity to deter a very aggressive Russia," said US Ambassador to NATO Kay Bailey Hutchison. She assured that the US proposal was aimed at "ensuring that there is a safe passage for Ukrainian ships through the Kerch Strait". This plan comes in the wake of the November naval incident between Ukraineand Russia when Russian coastguards boarded Ukrainian warships trying to enter the Sea of Azov through the Kerch Strait separating it from the Black Sea. Three people were injured in the incident and 24 Ukrainian sailors have since been taken prisoner. Is the situation in the Black Sea region getting worse? Quentin Lopinot, an associate researcher at the Washington-based think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies, believes the American initiative is primarily a response to the deteriorating situation in the Black Sea region: "Russia is on a mission to modernise its fleet and infrastructure there in a major way, and is marking its territory much more aggressively. Washington does not want to turn a blind eye to this development, fearing that Moscow will therefore succeed in controlling de facto, or dominating the Black Sea region. The challenge is therefore also to ensure that the Black Sea remains an international space, where ‘freedom of navigation’ is respected." Yves Boyer, an associate researcher at the Fondation pour la recherche stratégique (FRS), believes that it’s primarily a question of good communication. "We need to make announcements. The Americans want to reassure Bulgaria, Romania and Georgia. There’s also perhaps the idea of helping Ukrainian President Poroshenko, who is in a bad position before the second round of the presidential elections," he explains. Russia responded by indicating that it viewed the American plan "in a negative way". "We don't understand what they mean by this. The situation in the Kerch Strait and navigation there is well known," said Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov. Boyer believes Russia is within its rights to view the American plan as provocative: "It's like tickling a bear under its chin, thinking that it will impress him, but it’s completely ridiculous. The shore of the Sea of Azov is completely Russian. It's like telling Americans to stay out of business in the Gulf of Mexico.” 50% rule Continues at source: [link to www.france24.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) Russia to respond in kind to NATO plans in Black Sea — diplomat Russian Politics & DiplomacyApril 14, 1:14 Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko said that NATO's activities in the Black Sea only undermine regional stability MOSCOW, April 13. /TASS/. Russia closely follows NATO’s military planning in the Black Sea region and is set to respond in kind to the Alliance’s actions, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko told reporters on Saturday on the sidelines of the 27th Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy. "Definitely negative," he said when asked about Russia’s attitude to NATO’s increased activity in the Black Sea. 50% rule Continues at source: [link to tass.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77026479 Canada 04/14/2019 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) [link to www.ukrinform.net (secure)] Quoting: Adytum Canadian MP: NATO submarines may ‘unexpectedly’ appear in Black Sea Testing stealth tech? stealth? they would need a transporter its a closd body of water |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) [link to www.ukrinform.net (secure)] Quoting: Adytum Canadian MP: NATO submarines may ‘unexpectedly’ appear in Black Sea Testing stealth tech? stealth? they would need a transporter its a closd body of water It's basically just an extra large bathtub. Exactly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77465188 Turkey 04/14/2019 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) [link to www.ukrinform.net (secure)] Quoting: Adytum Canadian MP: NATO submarines may ‘unexpectedly’ appear in Black Sea Testing stealth tech? I guess that's what they are hoping. Can we trust the Turks though? We have to give them notice of transits into the Black Sea by Treaty. :Edogan gollum: Turks are on Russia's side. Turkey has seen who's their friend and who's not on the day after 15/7/2016. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) [link to www.ukrinform.net (secure)] Quoting: Adytum Canadian MP: NATO submarines may ‘unexpectedly’ appear in Black Sea Testing stealth tech? I guess that's what they are hoping. Can we trust the Turks though? We have to give them notice of transits into the Black Sea by Treaty. :Edogan gollum: Turks are on Russia's side. Turkey has seen who's their friend and who's not on the day after 15/7/2016. You traitors threatened us in Syria. Why don't you have some balls and pull out of NATO? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77465188 Turkey 04/14/2019 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) I guess that's what they are hoping. Can we trust the Turks though? We have to give them notice of transits into the Black Sea by Treaty. :Edogan gollum: Turks are on Russia's side. Turkey has seen who's their friend and who's not on the day after 15/7/2016. You traitors threatened us in Syria. Why don't you have some balls and pull out of NATO? Oh really? How have we threatened you? Sooner or later, Turkey will pull out of NATO and be part of Eastern Bloc |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72342558 Canada 04/14/2019 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) Canadian MP calls for more subs. Quoting: Adytum Russians call for revising Montreaux treaty. Russian exercises and NATO exercises taking place. Russian exercises involve A50's, S400 systems, TU-160's, SU-27SM etc. That Canadian MP is of Ukrainian ancestry. Probably his granpa was a Nazi collaborator during WW2 and Ukrainian Bandera follower. That MP is one of thirteen Canadians banned from traveling to Russia under retaliatory sanctions imposed by Russian President Vladimir Putin in March 2014. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) ... Quoting: Adytum I guess that's what they are hoping. Can we trust the Turks though? We have to give them notice of transits into the Black Sea by Treaty. :Edogan gollum: Turks are on Russia's side. Turkey has seen who's their friend and who's not on the day after 15/7/2016. You traitors threatened us in Syria. Why don't you have some balls and pull out of NATO? Oh really? How have we threatened you? Sooner or later, Turkey will pull out of NATO and be part of Eastern Bloc You guys threatened our troops embedded with Syrian opposition troops. If you don't know what your gangsters in Ankara are up to... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72342558 Canada 04/14/2019 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77465188 Turks are on Russia's side. Turkey has seen who's their friend and who's not on the day after 15/7/2016. You traitors threatened us in Syria. Why don't you have some balls and pull out of NATO? Oh really? How have we threatened you? Sooner or later, Turkey will pull out of NATO and be part of Eastern Bloc You guys threatened our troops embedded with Syrian opposition troops. If you don't know what your gangsters in Ankara are up to... Why won't you embed 'your troops' in Israel? They would feel safe then. What I know Assad never asked 'your troops' to enter Syrian territory. Am I right? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 04/14/2019 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Things becoming more interesting in the Black Sea. (Update 5/20: US Vehicle Transport ship in port in N. GREECE) ... Quoting: Adytum You traitors threatened us in Syria. Why don't you have some balls and pull out of NATO? Oh really? How have we threatened you? Sooner or later, Turkey will pull out of NATO and be part of Eastern Bloc You guys threatened our troops embedded with Syrian opposition troops. If you don't know what your gangsters in Ankara are up to... Why won't you embed 'your troops' in Israel? They would feel safe then. What I know Assad never asked 'your troops' to enter Syrian territory. Am I right? Did he ever invite Turkish troops? |