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2007 Rapture - Shocking Evidence for the Timing of the Christian 'Rapture' found in Revelation 14

 
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Well, good. Now I know when to miss it. I don't really trust that anyway. Especially considering there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations.

That and time was counted differently in those days.
Besides, there are some people who believe that the rapture includes actually dying physically not "ascending" as Jesus once did.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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I'll be glad when you fundies leave.


Best of luck.
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Well, good. Now I know when to miss it. I don't really trust that anyway. Especially considering there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations.

That and time was counted differently in those days.
Besides, there are some people who believe that the rapture includes actually dying physically not "ascending" as Jesus once did.
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You know, speaking without actually knowing for sure can lead one into trouble, especially with God. Ever read Job?
Can you prove that "there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations"?
If not, are you not a false prophet?
You speak of all this bubbly feel-good love and how love pleases God, but have you ever thought that God cares about truth also? Satan is the father of lies and if you are spreading them and in a "system (LDS)" of lies, does that make your father Satan?
You have a good heart and I hope that one day you will find "truth".
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Well, good. Now I know when to miss it. I don't really trust that anyway. Especially considering there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations.

That and time was counted differently in those days.
Besides, there are some people who believe that the rapture includes actually dying physically not "ascending" as Jesus once did.



You know, speaking without actually knowing for sure can lead one into trouble, especially with God. Ever read Job?
Can you prove that "there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations"?
If not, are you not a false prophet?
You speak of all this bubbly feel-good love and how love pleases God, but have you ever thought that God cares about truth also? Satan is the father of lies and if you are spreading them and in a "system (LDS)" of lies, does that make your father Satan?
You have a good heart and I hope that one day you will find "truth".
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Now you are sounding just like me! I have been sharing this info for years how false prophets and the churchosity that goes on in this world.
I understand what S B is saying. For an example , is there unicorns written of in the manuscripts? Nope, but it is in the bible.
Easter, is that correct in Act. 2 ? Nope, it's Passover, Not Easter. Easter belongs to Satan, better said "Astoroth or Astorath>
I think my friend that is where S B was coming from.
blessings to all
PS I went to the sight that was posted and read. Not too sure where this person gets his idea's from, but several things are incorrect.
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There is no rapture mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

ESPECIALLY Rev. 14.
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Well, good. Now I know when to miss it. I don't really trust that anyway. Especially considering there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations.

That and time was counted differently in those days.
Besides, there are some people who believe that the rapture includes actually dying physically not "ascending" as Jesus once did.



You know, speaking without actually knowing for sure can lead one into trouble, especially with God. Ever read Job?
Can you prove that "there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations"?
If not, are you not a false prophet?
You speak of all this bubbly feel-good love and how love pleases God, but have you ever thought that God cares about truth also? Satan is the father of lies and if you are spreading them and in a "system (LDS)" of lies, does that make your father Satan?
You have a good heart and I hope that one day you will find "truth".
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Truth is not within religion or written down in books by the faulty hand of man. The truth comes from speaking with God and listening to Jesus and not ignoring the Holy Spirit which resides in the metaphorical heart.

That is the source of all universal truth.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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Praise The Holy Of Holy:1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:--The dead in Christ arose after Crucifiction ::Eze 37:13 And ye shall know that am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up, out of your graves,:Luk 20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.:::Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Mat 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. :::
AND THE RAPTURE HAS TAKEN PLACE EVERYDAY SINCE!
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent the body, and to be present with the Lord.Praise the Holy of Holy:amen
As we die the soul passes to Christ without going to the grave thus the rapture has taken place every day !Praise The Lamb:Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Those that died before tribulation::Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. THEN THOSE THAT DIED DURING TRIBULATION!!Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Praise The Lamb:Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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I really dislike the habit of taking sentences from various books and stringing them together to make a conclusion.

In kind it would be to take the collected works of Shakespeare and cobbling together a play using a paragraph from one play, strung together with another play and so on.

It could be called a "Shakespearean work" However William himself would not have written it that way.

Each and every verse of the bible is in a Chapter and in a Book. Each book was written by an individual in a time removed from the other books. The later ones are based (loosely at times) on earlier works so yes they agree on many points.

However for us to understand the meaning of the words we must keep them in context, we must NOT take bits and pieces and string them together to make new concepts.

There is no "Rapture" There is instead a great falling away from the True Church - and none of the organized Christian churches are the True Church - they are abominations, defiled organizations that abuse the Bible and the Word and teach falsely many, many things.

They teach the false religion, have perverted the Law, have persecuted God's one and only chosen people, the Jews. They have defiled the Name of Our Lord by adopting his name for their organizations calling themselves Christians when there is nothing Christ-like about them.

I left the ministry when the Truth was revealed to me about just how perverted and wrong the modern "Christian" religions truly are.

Rapture Theory is a perversion, it is a false theory that leads billions astray, leads them down the path to hell, leads them to believe a thing which is not so.

There will be a falling away from God, there will be a False Religion - These are already in place and very few individuals remain who actually follow the Word of God. Modern Christianity is not.

To give you an idea of the Truth:

Please go to: [link to carnael.googlepages.com]

Read about the False Religion, Read about the (un)Holy Bible.

[link to carnael.googlepages.com]

and

[link to carnael.googlepages.com]

Followed by bible Abuse:

[link to carnael.googlepages.com]
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Just out of curiosity, how many times per year does the rapture take place.

It seems to happen at least twice a year for the last 25 years.

I just need to know how to schedule my day.
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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the counter-reformation came up with a false doctrine to counter these accusation called "futurism" in a nutshell here's futurism:

-The Jews returned to Israel that started some countdown where a temple will be built that the antichrist will seat and be evil culminating in seven year tribulation and armageddon-

ALL the above is futurism and false, any preacher, especially documentary propagators, promoting it knows better and is working for the vatican.

The antichrist is alive and seated in the temple of God already. The temple of God can in no way be in the state of Isreal for Jews that deny Christ.

The seven year, 70th week was after week #69 that started when Jesus was baptized and continued for 3 1/2 years where his ministery was cut off in the middle when he was crusified and died for the sins of man.
1. What is Historicism?

The Historicism is the historical interpretation of many of the prophecies in the book of Revelation, particularly regarding Antichrist. The Anti-Christ, Man of Sin, or Mystery of Iniquity is the system of Papacy. The Reformers had the historical interpretation of the Antichrist. Historicism has no "gap" between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9. The Prince being cut off in the midst of the week is Christ, the Messiah, who died in the midst of the 70th week of favor to natural Israel at the first advent. Historicism treats Revelation as a Book of signs and symbols.

2. What is Futurism?

The Futurist view of Revelation interprets the prophecies of Antichrist as a future literal man who deceives the world. The Futurist view interprets Revelation literally, not symbolically. There is a "gap" of over 2400 years between the 69th week and 70th week of Daniel 9. The Prince is the Man of Sin, Antichrist. The Futurist view was introduced by the Jesuits to counter the Reformation view of Papacy.
www.revelation-today.com/A6Ribera.htm
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Just out of curiosity, how many times per year does the rapture take place.

It seems to happen at least twice a year for the last 25 years.

I just need to know how to schedule my day.
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Happens to each saved person who dies:: About 30% af all deaths if you use statistics on near death experiences praise The Lamb: Amen 2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent the body, and to be present with the Lord.Praise the Holy of Holy:amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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I really dislike the habit of taking sentences from various books and stringing them together to make a conclusion.

In kind it would be to take the collected works of Shakespeare and cobbling together a play using a paragraph from one play, strung together with another play and so on.

It could be called a "Shakespearean work" However William himself would not have written it that way.

Each and every verse of the bible is in a Chapter and in a Book. Each book was written by an individual in a time removed from the other books. The later ones are based (loosely at times) on earlier works so yes they agree on many points.

However for us to understand the meaning of the words we must keep them in context, we must NOT take bits and pieces and string them together to make new concepts.

There is no "Rapture" There is instead a great falling away from the True Church - and none of the organized Christian churches are the True Church - they are abominations, defiled organizations that abuse the Bible and the Word and teach falsely many, many things.

They teach the false religion, have perverted the Law, have persecuted God's one and only chosen people, the Jews. They have defiled the Name of Our Lord by adopting his name for their organizations calling themselves Christians when there is nothing Christ-like about them.

I left the ministry when the Truth was revealed to me about just how perverted and wrong the modern "Christian" religions truly are.

Rapture Theory is a perversion, it is a false theory that leads billions astray, leads them down the path to hell, leads them to believe a thing which is not so.

There will be a falling away from God, there will be a False Religion - These are already in place and very few individuals remain who actually follow the Word of God. Modern Christianity is not.

To give you an idea of the Truth:

Please go to: [link to carnael.googlepages.com]

Read about the False Religion, Read about the (un)Holy Bible.

[link to carnael.googlepages.com]

and

[link to carnael.googlepages.com]

Followed by bible Abuse:

[link to carnael.googlepages.com]
 Quoting: Wraithwynd



You know I got thrown off of another sight for almost saying the same words you used here on GLP.
When you go against a "rapture" believer, you instantly become their enemies.
Nice to know another person bringing forth that truth, that spiritual truth. Many will never see that truth, and hang onto a lie foretold by God that He would send a strong delusion to the world. The falling away has already started.

blessings to all
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Rapture Theory is a perversion, it is a false theory that leads billions astray, leads them down the path to hell, leads them to believe a thing which is not so.


 Quoting: Wraithwynd


You, and others, wallow in your ignorance.

Rapiemur = Rapture

The word "rapiemur" IS in the Bible - the Latin Vulgate Bible. It EVEN SOUNDS like "rapture"....

[link to www.biblebell.org]

"deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis
in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus"

* Fact #4 - In the early days of the church, the Roman Empire ruled much of the civilized world. The Empire's principle language was Latin. Accordingly, in 382 AD the great scholar Jerome began translating the Bible into the Latin language. It took him 25 years. The result was the Vulgate Bible.
* Fact #5 - In the Vulgate Bible, the Greek word HARPAZO in 1 Thes 4.17 was translated into the Latin word RAPIEMUR. It is from rapiemur that we get the word Rapture.
* Fact #6 - Thus, "Rapture" has the literal meaning of being caught up or snatched away.
* Fact #7 - When Jesus returns in the clouds (soon!) He will rapture His people -- living and dead -- right up into the clouds to be with Him always. Halleluyah!

THERE IT IS....

IN THE BIBLE, LIKE YOU SAID IT WASN'T...


BUT, FEEL FREE TO KEEP ON LYING.

IT'S WHAT YOU DO BEST.
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Yes, Christians, please wait to be raptured. Do no work on improving your quality of life, or those around you. Dont bother with soul searching or true understanding of yourself. Don't even bother trying to understand, be able to identify with, nor seek Unity with God. Just sit there and wait for rapture, dont change a single thing about what your thinking or how you are living, just sit there and wait. God, in his infinate wisdom, will descend upon you and lift you to Godliness without any effort or understanding required on your part. Keep waiting.

For the rest, just become in tune...its easier than it sounds.

And I just wanted to know if it was just me, or does everyone see that avatar of ANY winged post, and skip the whole thing? Sometimes I wonder if that guy has anything important to say, but I must admit, his "Praise the holiest of holy...." introduction just bugs me...WHY, pray tell, does an OMNIPOTENT , OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT entity NEED praise from any single thing in this universe (which is just a manifestation od said being). The answer: The Creator needs not your praise nor blind worship. The Creator needs you to WAKE THE ______ UP!! And understand your role as co creator of the universe around you.

Or Wait....its up to you. In the end, we'll meet again, friends, in the end.
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Rapture Theory is a perversion, it is a false theory that leads billions astray, leads them down the path to hell, leads them to believe a thing which is not so.




You, and others, wallow in your ignorance.

Rapiemur = Rapture

The word "rapiemur" IS in the Bible - the Latin Vulgate Bible. It EVEN SOUNDS like "rapture"....

[link to www.biblebell.org]

"deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis
in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus"

* Fact #4 - In the early days of the church, the Roman Empire ruled much of the civilized world. The Empire's principle language was Latin. Accordingly, in 382 AD the great scholar Jerome began translating the Bible into the Latin language. It took him 25 years. The result was the Vulgate Bible.
* Fact #5 - In the Vulgate Bible, the Greek word HARPAZO in 1 Thes 4.17 was translated into the Latin word RAPIEMUR. It is from rapiemur that we get the word Rapture.
* Fact #6 - Thus, "Rapture" has the literal meaning of being caught up or snatched away.
* Fact #7 - When Jesus returns in the clouds (soon!) He will rapture His people -- living and dead -- right up into the clouds to be with Him always. Halleluyah!

THERE IT IS....

IN THE BIBLE, LIKE YOU SAID IT WASN'T...


BUT, FEEL FREE TO KEEP ON LYING.

IT'S WHAT YOU DO BEST.
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Oh my 382 Jerome !
And I have a book too that I can sell you.
The word clouds in 1 Thes. does not mean we are going up into the air. It means large body of people. Prove that! Sure, Paul is the one who wrote that book and Paul had written the book of Hebrews. Heb. 12:1. Read it> It says we are a cloud of witness's. So how can a cloud be a witness? It can't. The word cloud is a street Greek slang word. Paul was a great Hebrew scholar, but lack greatly in the Greek language. The book of Jude verse 12 talks about those clouds that have not water. What clouds with no water. Gee how confussing that is. No again it is the same meaning, which is large body of people.
Since Jerome was not anointed by God, should I listen to his teachings and call it true? NO way!
No, the word "Rapture" is not in the manuscripts which was written long before Jerome was even born. So, you my friend can stand strong in knowing you put Jerome above the manuscripts and call it the real truth.
Sorry my friend, but Jerome made tons of mistakes, not just the rapture scenario too.
When you strip a rapture believer of his rapture cloth, they get bitter and nasty and call people names. And if you do not cow down to them, then you must be evil.
I guess in all your wisdom you never read Pauls second letter to the Thes. Go read 2 Thes. chapter 2, it start right off with the object and subject of gathering back to Christ. I bet you never had that pointed out to you before.
Paul says there that there will be a falling away first, which I believe is happening right now. And that the son of perdition will be revealed.
Gee, that has not happened yet. Who is the son of perdition? You got it, Satan himself, not some man from the EU either.
Now since Paul wrote both Thes. He also wrote 1 Corinthians 15:51 and 52. In 52 Paul tells us that we shall change at the twinkle of an eye. When? At the "LAST TRUMP". How many trumps are there my rapture believing friend? Duh I don't know cuz I am hooked on the word Rapture so much that the rest of Pauls words mean nothing to me. That is the mindset of rapture believers. We have 7 trumps. I can count from one to seven and know since first grade that 7 is the last trump and 1 is the first trump. Gee that was so hard wasn't it.

So you can take your Jerome and keep him, I will raise you to Pauls and call your bluff. Poker talk!
I still love you in the Lord, even if you love Jerome more than the Lord. The Lord himself told you to watch for Satan in Mark 13:14. Where is your teachers on that one...
blessings to all
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"The word "rapiemur" IS in the Bible - the Latin Vulgate Bible"

/snicker

Sorry, If I knew you were catholic I wouldn't have bothered.
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Yes, Christians, please wait to be raptured. Do no work on improving your quality of life, or those around you. Dont bother with soul searching or true understanding of yourself. Don't even bother trying to understand, be able to identify with, nor seek Unity with God. Just sit there and wait for rapture, dont change a single thing about what your thinking or how you are living, just sit there and wait. God, in his infinate wisdom, will descend upon you and lift you to Godliness without any effort or understanding required on your part. Keep waiting.

For the rest, just become in tune...its easier than it sounds.

And I just wanted to know if it was just me, or does everyone see that avatar of ANY winged post, and skip the whole thing? Sometimes I wonder if that guy has anything important to say, but I must admit, his "Praise the holiest of holy...." introduction just bugs me...WHY, pray tell, does an OMNIPOTENT , OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT entity NEED praise from any single thing in this universe (which is just a manifestation od said being). The answer: The Creator needs not your praise nor blind worship. The Creator needs you to WAKE THE ______ UP!! And understand your role as co creator of the universe around you.

Or Wait....its up to you. In the end, we'll meet again, friends, in the end.
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I find Wing-ed's "holiest of holies" quite endearing. I dont agree with everything he says, but he a very congenial person. I have never seen him insult another person or talk bad about them in anyway. He even has a great sense of humor.

And as for this rapture, if it does exist, not anyone who is "saved" is going. There are plenty of people who believe in God and Jesus and yet hate people who are not of the same faith, are not charitable, and are quite sour personality wise.

I'm quite certain God would not want these kinds of people hang around Him all day telling Him how right they were and how wrong and evil everyone else is.
It doesn't make for a good future god or goddess either.
God loves EVERYONE. Not just those who believe He exists or listen to His Son Jesus Christ. Everyone was created by God, everyone can progress and become like unto God and Jesus. And no one deserves to have a self riteous person taking the place of God and condemning them to hell.

Only God, Christ, the Holy Ghost, and man hisself knows what's in his own soul. No one else. No one can judge another person because of that.
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Yes, Christians, please wait to be raptured. Do no work on improving your quality of life, or those around you. Dont bother with soul searching or true understanding of yourself. Don't even bother trying to understand, be able to identify with, nor seek Unity with God. Just sit there and wait for rapture, dont change a single thing about what your thinking or how you are living, just sit there and wait. God, in his infinate wisdom, will descend upon you and lift you to Godliness without any effort or understanding required on your part. Keep waiting.

For the rest, just become in tune...its easier than it sounds.

And I just wanted to know if it was just me, or does everyone see that avatar of ANY winged post, and skip the whole thing? Sometimes I wonder if that guy has anything important to say, but I must admit, his "Praise the holiest of holy...." introduction just bugs me...WHY, pray tell, does an OMNIPOTENT , OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT entity NEED praise from any single thing in this universe (which is just a manifestation od said being). The answer: The Creator needs not your praise nor blind worship. The Creator needs you to WAKE THE ______ UP!! And understand your role as co creator of the universe around you.

Or Wait....its up to you. In the end, we'll meet again, friends, in the end.


I find Wing-ed's "holiest of holies" quite endearing. I dont agree with everything he says, but he a very congenial person. I have never seen him insult another person or talk bad about them in anyway. He even has a great sense of humor.

And as for this rapture, if it does exist, not anyone who is "saved" is going. There are plenty of people who believe in God and Jesus and yet hate people who are not of the same faith, are not charitable, and are quite sour personality wise.

I'm quite certain God would not want these kinds of people hang around Him all day telling Him how right they were and how wrong and evil everyone else is.
It doesn't make for a good future god or goddess either.
God loves EVERYONE. Not just those who believe He exists or listen to His Son Jesus Christ. Everyone was created by God, everyone can progress and become like unto God and Jesus. And no one deserves to have a self riteous person taking the place of God and condemning them to hell.

Only God, Christ, the Holy Ghost, and man hisself knows what's in his own soul. No one else. No one can judge another person because of that.
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This is one of the reason I like reading your postings S B.
You're very honest and I can tell you love people.
Yes Winged is a very loving caring person and I am proud to know him personally, and his family, even if he lives far away from me.
blessings to all
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Well, good. Now I know when to miss it. I don't really trust that anyway. Especially considering there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations.

That and time was counted differently in those days.
Besides, there are some people who believe that the rapture includes actually dying physically not "ascending" as Jesus once did.
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says the Christian who doesn't believe the words and message of Jesus, who proclaims fault in the Bible,
but believes Joseph Smith and the Mormons.
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I'm quite certain God would not want these kinds of people hang around Him all day telling Him how right they were and how wrong and evil everyone else is.
 Quoting: SpectrumBlue

Oh, quite certain... Pot, kettle.
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06/19/2007 02:43 PM
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Yes, Christians, please wait to be raptured. Do no work on improving your quality of life, or those around you. Dont bother with soul searching or true understanding of yourself. Don't even bother trying to understand, be able to identify with, nor seek Unity with God. Just sit there and wait for rapture, dont change a single thing about what your thinking or how you are living, just sit there and wait. God, in his infinate wisdom, will descend upon you and lift you to Godliness without any effort or understanding required on your part. Keep waiting.
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Exactly... Some people can't wait for more Armagedda-Porn: filled with rapture for the righteous (however undefined), smiting for the evil-doers and unbelievers and general chaos and mayhem from an "angry and vengeful" god.

Sorry to say, though, estimates of Americans who believe in Armagedda-Porn is extremely high.

And so it begins...
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06/19/2007 02:47 PM
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Just out of curiosity, how many times per year does the rapture take place.

It seems to happen at least twice a year for the last 25 years.

I just need to know how to schedule my day.

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Happens to each saved person who dies:: About 30% af all deaths if you use statistics on near death experiences praise The Lamb: Amen 2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent the body, and to be present with the Lord.Praise the Holy of Holy:amen
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So what you're saying is Cain has been burning in hell thousands of years longer than Hitler and Stalin combined?
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Well, good. Now I know when to miss it. I don't really trust that anyway. Especially considering there are things edited and added and taken out all throughout the bible including revelations.

That and time was counted differently in those days.
Besides, there are some people who believe that the rapture includes actually dying physically not "ascending" as Jesus once did.

says the Christian who doesn't believe the words and message of Jesus, who proclaims fault in the Bible,
but believes Joseph Smith and the Mormons.
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I believe in Joseph Smith and the Mormons? Really? I actually never knew that. I just believe in certain ideals and there are some things in the church that coincide with my own personal beliefs that I had forged long before I was baptised.

Silly judgemental human. Of course I can't say anything is for certain, and I can't truly believe everything about Joseph Smith or everything that my religion tells me. They don't really know, and neither do I. They can't answer all my questions, but neither can the bible, the book of mormon, the doctrine and covenants, pearl of great price, the torah, the catholic catachysms nor any other book written and edited by man.

The only ones who CAN answer my questions are God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. The creators and grand designers of this universe.

You cannot judge someone based on their religion. You do not know their seperate thought, beliefs, nor doubts. You do not know what's truly in their soul. I learned this long ago. It's time you learned also.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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06/19/2007 02:52 PM
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Also, how are we going to come out of the graves and meet Jesus in the clouds at his return?

1Thes.4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
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06/19/2007 02:55 PM
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Joseph Smith and the Mormons

If that isn't a band name already I'm calling dibs on it.
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Joseph Smith and the Mormons

If that isn't a band name already I'm calling dibs on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254063


You could change your name to Joseph Nigel Smithy and add a mormon bassist and rhythm guitarist. The rest could be Hari Krishna devotees and zoroastrians(sp?). I don't know why I picked those two but it seemed weird and nifty at the same time. The Krishnans could play the tamborine and the Zoroatrians could play the drums while you play lead guitar.

Woooo!!!!
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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Also, how are we going to come out of the graves and meet Jesus in the clouds at his return?

1Thes.4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254226

The dead in Christ means they are already with Christ. The trump is the last trump spoken of by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:51-52.

Dead in Christ are those who walked with the Lord in believing apon Him while in the flesh, died in the flesh and rose into their spiritual bodies.
I wish Christians would get this straight in their minds, that when you die you will not lay in some whole in the ground. You go instantly to back to God. In your spiritual body you will look just like you look in the flesh, not some ball of light either.

Read Eccl. chapter 12 and pay attention to verse's 6 and 7.

That chapter for those who cannot understand it is talking about our bodies and how we get old and what happens to us after death.
For those who stuggle with that chapter I will get you started by sharing this.
Windows is your eyes
Keepers of the house is your body
grinders are your teeth
doors shut is your voice box giving away to age
Music brought low is your hearing going
almond tree is your hair color turning gray
grasshopper is your legs , plus the weight of a grasshopper
silver cord is your inner spirit (I know some will have something differant to say for that, but it will stand)
and the spirit, you, your inner self will go back to God.
blessings to all
Little Star

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So I read all that was on that sight given by OP.
I am still waiting for this:

Shocking Evidence!

blessings to all
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06/19/2007 07:23 PM
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"The word "rapiemur" IS in the Bible - the Latin Vulgate Bible"

/snicker

Sorry, If I knew you were catholic I wouldn't have bothered.
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I'm not Catholic. So, "snicker" right back to you.
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Who is the son of perdition? You got it, Satan himself, not some man from the EU either.


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Daniel told us that the man of perdition, the antichrist, will come to power with just a few votes.

He has been in your face since Decemder 2000. He came to power to rule Babylon with just five votes from the supreme court of satan's freakmasons. You know him as Bushpig. The dog of dogs, who started ww3 with invasion of Afghanistan that leads to a nuclear holocaust. satan is his master. Bush is in the power and Spirit of satan, but he is not satan. The two witnesses are in the power and Spirit of Elijah, but they are not Elijah.
God chose Bush to be the antichrist because of the sins of his fathers, mainly his grandfathre, presscock Bush and his father, mass murderer and Hitler supporter, george dumbfeck Bush.

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Now since Paul wrote both Thes. He also wrote 1 Corinthians 15:51 and 52. In 52 Paul tells us that we shall change at the twinkle of an eye. When? At the "LAST TRUMP". How many trumps are there my rapture believing friend? Duh I don't know cuz I am hooked on the word Rapture so much that the rest of Pauls words mean nothing to me. That is the mindset of rapture believers. We have 7 trumps. I can count from one to seven and know since first grade that 7 is the last trump and 1 is the first trump. Gee that was so hard wasn't it.

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At this time the Seven Spirits and the two witnesses have the call. When the two witnesses are slain, then God sends his seven Angels. This is when the first trumpet sounds. This is still three years away..


There is no rapture. Your just gunna feckon die in Bushes ww3 and the seven Angels really kicking some arse.

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