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Anonymous Coward User ID: 160259 Netherlands 06/20/2007 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is already a new protocol that can help tackle the problem of capacity. It's called FAST protocol and you can download a complete DVD movie in 5 secs with that protocol. The beauty of that protocol is that it can be implemented on the current infrastructure without changing (much of the) hardware. In essence, the protocol is much more optimal than protocols currently used so that it can utilize existing infrastructure much better. The protocol has been invented by professors at Caltech and is now sold at a company called fastsoft. [link to www.fastsoft.com] |
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WhiteCosmicWizard User ID: 99906 Australia 06/20/2007 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i doubt it. With hard-drives, processing and communication speeds increasing more and more each year an 'internet overload' is highly unlikely. For example, there is a new type of internet connection being released soon which is going to be 80 times faster than the current highest speed internet (saw an article on it but dont have the link). If a backbone link or major router failed, it wouldn't be the end of the internet, the links would be fixed and it would be back up and running again. The information isn't lost because it is all held on computers not on the communication lines themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 227259 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In one day, YouTube sends data equivalent to 75 billion e-mails; so it's clearly very different," said Phil Smith, head of technology and corporate marketing at Cisco Systems. Quoting: Sigma"The network is growing up, is starting to get more capacity than it ever had, but it is a challenge. "Video is real-time, it needs to not have mistakes or errors. E-mail can be a little slow. You wouldn't notice if it was 11 seconds rather than 10, but you would notice that on a video." "Back in the days of the dotcom boom in the late 90s, billions of dollars were invested around the world in laying cables," said net expert Bill Thompson. "If we take a backbone link across the Atlantic, there're billions of bits of data arriving every second and it's all got to go to different destinations," explained Mr Thompson. "The router sits at the end of that very high speed link and decides where each small piece of data has to go. That's not a difficult computational task, but it has to make millions of decisions a second." The manufacturer of most of the world's routers is Cisco. When I pushed them on the subject of router overload, they were understandably confident. "Routers have come a long way since they started," said Mr Smith. "The routers we're talking about now can handle 92 terabits per second. "We have enough capacity to do that and drive a billion phone calls from those same people who are playing a video game at the same time they're having a text chat." Reads like a press release designed to keep a company in the focus (Cisco) but getting someone on the inside to say something terribly fabulous and controversial enough to attract the attention of publishers looking to fill up a bit of space so that they can in turn justify to their advertisers that they are indeed providing unique and relevant content. The equipment will be upgraded as and when required. In the 90s there was a big scare about running out of IP addresses and a whole proposal to go IPv6 was introduced ... and then some clever clogs came up with a solution. As routers fizzle up and die they'll be replaced with cheaper routers from China that can handle high volumes and have perhaps additional "features" for things we never knew we needed ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254220 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pay for 8mbit, and 4GB download a month. I get 2.6 Mbit at non peak times if im lucky. Every day at about 4.30 when most users log on,the total bandwidth drops to 512kbit or 246kbit. And get this, download programs like Bittorrent and Limewire, work at high speed during non peak hours, then as soon as peak time comes, they band width shape them programs to 12Kbytes a sec up and down. Just for them specific progs, even nano torrent when encrypted they fucking detect it and limit me. That is how BT intend to handle the increased useage, not by connecting users to the backbone with fibre, but by taking away their bandwidth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254220 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BT fucking bandwidth shape me every day. and its not the service i pay the premium for! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254220I pay for 8mbit, and 4GB download a month. I get 2.6 Mbit at non peak times if im lucky. Every day at about 4.30 when most users log on,the total bandwidth drops to 512kbit or 246kbit. And get this, download programs like Bittorrent and Limewire, work at high speed during non peak hours, then as soon as peak time comes, they band width shape them programs to 12Kbytes a sec up and down. Just for them specific progs, even nano torrent when encrypted they fucking detect it and limit me. That is how BT intend to handle the increased useage, not by connecting users to the backbone with fibre, but by taking away their bandwidth. 40!gb per month sorry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254220 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i doubt it. Quoting: WhiteCosmicWizardWith hard-drives, processing and communication speeds increasing more and more each year an 'internet overload' is highly unlikely. For example, there is a new type of internet connection being released soon which is going to be 80 times faster than the current highest speed internet (saw an article on it but dont have the link). If a backbone link or major router failed, it wouldn't be the end of the internet, the links would be fixed and it would be back up and running again. The information isn't lost because it is all held on computers not on the communication lines themselves. come and live here and you will experience internet overload daily!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 227259 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BT fucking bandwidth shape me every day. and its not the service i pay the premium for! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254220I pay for 8mbit, and 4GB download a month. I get 2.6 Mbit at non peak times if im lucky. Every day at about 4.30 when most users log on,the total bandwidth drops to 512kbit or 246kbit. And get this, download programs like Bittorrent and Limewire, work at high speed during non peak hours, then as soon as peak time comes, they band width shape them programs to 12Kbytes a sec up and down. Just for them specific progs, even nano torrent when encrypted they fucking detect it and limit me. That is how BT intend to handle the increased useage, not by connecting users to the backbone with fibre, but by taking away their bandwidth. 40!gb per month sorry. Fucking love bandwidth capping - not. You either get mediocre service or No service. South Africa's Monopolistic Telkom (which ironically enough translates directly as Count Sperm) have capping ... and when you've used your limit you get shoved onto the links that just don't connect anywhere. Not even small text sites ... you go from full to nothing. The problem with BT is they are generally crap as a rule. The other day, just to get my phone line connected, I sat on hold for over an hour. The first half an hour sent me through to the wrong department, and then I waited another half an hour for the other department and I was given an option after half an hour to leave a message and have someone call me back ... through my laughter and tears I stayed on the line and spoke to an "operator" before the other poor fuckers who diligently left their details. This has nothing really to do with the backbone of the internet. Fact of the matter is there are so many customers that corporations no longer have to provide fair and decent service. ... Unrelated to the argument about the web collapsing under its own weight. Its about Business having to catch up with the techies now ... where in the past everything has been about the business. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 254220 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | humm. Well i guess your right. But ive tried other ISPs and they can offer not better, on the infrastructure i have(copper phone line and a local exchange that is in another town. BT has so many customers, it must be making billions upon billions thru internet subscriptions. But they should have a responsibility to upgrade the infrastructure, and that INCLUDES!!! the connections from the homes to the back bone 1.e. replacing that stupid 30 year old copper phone line, and building an exchange in my village! BT you have the fucking money so do something, or say goodbye to your subscriber'S!!! we dont like being bandwidth shaped and no bandwidth everyday when ppl get home from work and log on to youtube and fileshares. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 227259 United Kingdom 06/20/2007 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | humm. Well i guess your right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254220But ive tried other ISPs and they can offer not better, on the infrastructure i have(copper phone line and a local exchange that is in another town. BT has so many customers, it must be making billions upon billions thru internet subscriptions. But they should have a responsibility to upgrade the infrastructure, and that INCLUDES!!! the connections from the homes to the back bone 1.e. replacing that stupid 30 year old copper phone line, and building an exchange in my village! BT you have the fucking money so do something, or say goodbye to your subscriber'S!!! we dont like being bandwidth shaped and no bandwidth everyday when ppl get home from work and log on to youtube and fileshares. I hear you loud and clear. But do they give a crap? They're being funded by business and you can bet your mother's wedding ring that the service they give to business and the benefits of bandwidth and decent equipment is all being directed at business ... and justifiably so because that's where the big moola comes from. As I said there are millions of little tiny home users and they account for a fraction of BT's business. Face it you always have to have a BT connection even if you don't use them as a service provider ... And its not just BT ... its general business practise in the world. Consumers consume, some complain - but that process is taxing and really hardly worth the effort. Which is why Something will eventually give way .... and then all the little confused people will go ... "er um duh!" I feel your pain. This gets me right up the hole in my bum and really really hurts! |
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