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I think there's something else living in my home
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2XSecretAgent
User ID: 164883
 United States
6/27/2007 3:26 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
OP - I've smudged many homes and it works.
First open the windows and doors in your home and walk through your house demanding all entities that are there for harm to leave and make a lot of noise while you do it. Announce firmly that your home will only be for good. Walk through your house in a clockwise direction while doing this. Then walk through it again with burning sage, again demanding all things of harm must leave. Then walk through and close all the windows and doors. Once the house is closed, walk through the house once again, announcing that your house will be protected and sprinkle salt water - using ocean salt if possible in the water, at all entrances to your home, the doorways and windows.
Then put objects of beauty in all rooms, and especially in the area that is troubling you.
My email is in my signature, contact me if you want more help. Let me know how it goes.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 189402
United States
6/27/2007 3:29 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
No more a judgement than a statement. If you told me you had dropped a can of tuna on you and all the cats in the neighborhood kept following you around and you couldnt understand why.
Same idea.
The cats just smelled the tuna on you....no religiousness involved.
Same idea with the demons....they have caught your "aroma". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258077
United States
6/27/2007 3:34 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
I'll be honest about something I don't usually mention.
I'm a little bit afraid of the Lord's Prayer.
That part about "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"... I'm not a very forgiving person - I don't seek revenge, but if you truly offend me, I'll ignore you for a long, long time.
I really don't want that kind of treatment from God.
I want God to be better than me, to forgive me for being a jerk and allow me compassion and understanding so that I can evolve into being a better person.
That Lord's Prayer Catch-22 worries me.
. Quoting: op 258032
Here you go OP, this is another Lord's Prayer. It resonates with me much more than the one we've all been taught.
The Lord's Prayer
Translated from Aramaic into English
Rather than from Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English
O cosmic Birther of all radiance and vibration
soften the ground of our being and carve out a space
within us where Your Presence can abide.
Fill us with your creativity so that we may be empowered
to bear the fruit of Your mission.
Let each of our actions bear fruit in accordance with our desire.
Endow us with the wisdom to produce
and share what each being needs to grow and flourish.
Untie the tangled threads of destiny that bind us,
as we release others from the entanglement of past mistakes.
Do not let us be seduced by that which would divert us from our true purpose, but illuminate the opportunities of the present moment.
For You are the round and the fruitful vision, the birth-power and fulfillment, as all is gathered and made whole once again.
Here is my advice regarding the strong energy in your home:
1.) Accept that we are living in a dimension of mulitple layered energy. Like one single radio station on the FM dial.
2.) Imagine a pin hole in the dimension where your refridgerator once stood.
3.) As soon as you feel the energy wave again, immediately command it back through the pin hole and mentally watch the pin hole close behind "it".
3.) Paint the corner a soothing color that compliments your kitchen. Any color will do, so long as it is appealing to your senses.
4.) Hang a new light from the ceiling in the center of this 3ft space.
5.) Place a small, tall, circle table (like you would see in a bistro or bar) under the light. Place a nice arrangement of flowers or potted plant in the middle of the table.
6.) Decorate the table with a photo or two or a framed poem (perhaps the new Lord's Prayer!)
7.) Mentally thank your family for divining such a wonderful gift.
8.) Ask a few friends or family members over to check out your re-model progress. Especially show them this new spot in your kitchen. Let them give it their energy of admiration and love. Do not tell anyone about the energy you once experience.
9.) Enjoy your new space daily.
10.) Be thankful these problems are taken care of so easily. |
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Phoenix 2012  
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User ID: 208157
United States
6/27/2007 3:36 PM
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No more a judgement than a statement. If you told me you had dropped a can of tuna on you and all the cats in the neighborhood kept following you around and you couldnt understand why.
Same idea.
The cats just smelled the tuna on you....no religiousness involved.
Same idea with the demons....they have caught your "aroma". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 189402
Wow that's a perfect analogy! Maybe I will go to church next Sunday and ask Jesus into my heart so I don't ever drop a can of tuna and have cats follow me. Hell maybe the church I go to will try to get GWB in for just one more term!
<sarcastic look>
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32062
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6/27/2007 3:38 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Demonic spirit? Does this mean that my old bed had a demon sleeping with me in it, because I had nightmares every single night when I slept on that bed.. had to throw it out.
Seriously.. was it a demon? :O
These "spirits" are not the innocent poltergeists as some would have you believe. In fact, they will say anything to get you to let them stay and will invite friends with them. Think about it, these dark entities (demons) have been disembodied for who knows how long and savor watching humans eat, sleep, make love, kill, etc. The thing they enjoy even more is to gain access to a human body with which to experience the pleasures. Once they get in they are most reluctant to leave and will make you do things you never thought possible. As silly as some here make it sound the only way to get rid of these spirits permanently is to take authority over/rebuke them in the name of Jesus:
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Be careful OP! They are on their mission! Bring another into their fold of deceit! I have seen this so many times.
Believe who you want OP, but you asked for advice and were told what you were dealing with. And speaking of "folds of deceit" why do you think that entity is trying to be cozy with you and this Phoenix character wants you to proceed as if nothing is happening? Religion (or better yet, dead religion) is the enemy Phoenix speaks of and I agree, you should be wary of anyone coaxing you to join their church or organization. |
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 3:42 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Phoenix - this morning I threw away a can of tuna from the old refrigerator. I think I bought it back in 2004.
Anyway - the tuna analogy is good - I threw the tuna away because I knew the cats were coming. |
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edgar celadus
User ID: 115284
United States
6/27/2007 3:47 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Thats funny, because I talk to dead spirits all the time and I've never had a problem with them. Especially after I started training myself and my nervous instincts to become accustomed to their presence. Most of you people should try walking through a cemetery in total darkness or through the woods by yourself. And watch your belief about the existence of "demonic entities" change. The average person will have a nervous breakdown while attempting this.
In other words, if you are scared by them, they will also seem scary in return. but this is not their intentions whatsoever. |
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Phoenix 2012
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User ID: 208157
United States
6/27/2007 3:49 PM
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Phoenix - this morning I threw away a can of tuna from the old refrigerator. I think I bought it back in 2004.
Anyway - the tuna analogy is good - I threw the tuna away because I knew the cats were coming. Quoting: op 258032
It's the Tuna! ..lol
Like the poster said above you have heard all sides of the argument now you have to decide.
Embrace the being and find out what it wants, Or call a priest to your home to extricate this beast. Or light bushes on fire in your home to smoke it out.
I love life!
Sell the house and let the next occupants deal with it?
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Phoenix 2012
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6/27/2007 3:50 PM
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Thats funny, because I talk to dead spirits all the time and I've never had a problem with them. Especially after I started training myself and my nervous instincts to become accustomed to their presence. Most of you people should try walking through a cemetery in total darkness or through the woods by yourself. And watch your belief about the existence of "demonic entities" change. The average person will have a nervous breakdown while attempting this.
In other words, if you are scared by them, they will also seem scary in return. but this is not their intentions whatsoever. Quoting: edgar celadus 115284
Right on Edgar, another day we see eye to eye my friend.
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
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6/27/2007 3:57 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Honestly, every single one of you has shown me a piece of truth.
A couple of you seem to be peeking through my windows, but nonetheless...
I don't feel judged. I'm being taught something.
I do wonder if my past is still lurks as a malignant force, my entire family was unhinged so there has to be some residue. I just realized I'm trying to heal myself by trying to heal my home. Maybe I'm only covering up the damage in both cases.
I don't know if that's where this thing comes from or not.
Like I said, maybe it's part of me, but if so - it's not a part of me I want to keep. |
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Skeptical Texan
User ID: 9482
United States
6/27/2007 4:00 PM
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I'm shocked nobody has recommend cleansing with lamb's blood yet. |
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Phoenix 2012
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6/27/2007 4:01 PM
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No one else has said it so I will.
What if it is a Alien being from another galaxy here to warn you of impending doom. It was upset when you removed the fridge as he thinks you will need it and a good stock of food soon?
You never know in situations like this!
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2XSecretAgent
User ID: 164883
United States
6/27/2007 4:02 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Honestly, every single one of you has shown me a piece of truth.
A couple of you seem to be peeking through my windows, but nonetheless...
I don't feel judged. I'm being taught something.
I do wonder if my past is still lurks as a malignant force, my entire family was unhinged so there has to be some residue. I just realized I'm trying to heal myself by trying to heal my home. Maybe I'm only covering up the damage in both cases.
I don't know if that's where this thing comes from or not.
Like I said, maybe it's part of me, but if so - it's not a part of me I want to keep. Quoting: op 258032
OP - that's one reason I use the approach I suggested. Not all spirits are harmful, even if they make us uncomfortable. By claiming your home as a place for good, the "things" that need to leave will, and those that can live peacefully with you will stay. Having good spirits in your home can be positive, if you get used to them and not be afraid of the them!
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 4:15 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
2XSA, thank you too.
I don't have sage but my neighbor keeps a few bundles because she thinks it hampers the abductions.
We're all screwed up over here. |
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some bloke in england
User ID: 258106
 United Kingdom
6/27/2007 4:23 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Offer the poor soul a cuppa tea.. or maybe you could charge it'rent..!' make some cash. My Nana always recommended having a cat in the house to ward off spirits & thoruoughly clean the offending area with vinegar. You can always 'freeze' the spirit by spraying liquid nitrogen at it, then take it out the door. I've experienced 'phsyical' ghosts, but they were no bother to me at all.. one was even mischevious.. but she was cool.. They just need assurance/love.. maybe they don't know they're dead yet, or maybe they're buried somewhere & want you to find their remains. Did she crawl outta the telly by any chance..? There are ways of moving them on using natural remedies, but I've forgotten them now. Try cleaning with vinegar then.. Good luck..! I'm no religeous or jesus freak, like you Americans are.., but didn't the geezer on the cross mention sommat about the dead rising up?! Some ghosts have more life in them than the 'living,' I think, they have more spirit in them. We've got loads n loads of ghosts here, but be careful of the angry ones, they can give you nightmares..! |
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 4:24 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
2XSA
The other day a friend was telling me about an apparently terrifying (in appearance) ancient god that was benevolent toward humans if they did not fear the god. But if they felt fear, the god would destroy the human.
Same thing but different... |
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 4:27 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Jeeze.
What if it's my mother... |
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2XSecretAgent
User ID: 164883
United States
6/27/2007 4:31 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
2XSA
The other day a friend was telling me about an apparently terrifying (in appearance) ancient god that was benevolent toward humans if they did not fear the god. But if they felt fear, the god would destroy the human.
Same thing but different... Quoting: op 258032
I do think fear feeds negative energy.
Even a dog will react in a negative way to someone who is acting fearful.
I have found being confident and firm is good. Talk to whatever is there and tell it to stay off of you. Don't show fear. It's your house and you have your own power.
After smudging my current home - and I swear this is a true story - I had done just as I described, inviting friends to participate that I knew would bring good healthy energy into my home. I repeatedly claimed that nothing that was harmful could stay or come back into my home.
My sister, who is living here with me, and I both had unusual experiences with our cell phones. Both of us had people who had come into our lives begin claiming they were calling us but there was no evidence that they were. Nothing on caller ID. The phones weren't ringing. There were no missed calls. Nothing. If we were not in our home, the calls from these people would go through. But not in our home. And just from these people. In both instances, they were people who did not need to be in our lives.
I am convinced the protection I had established in my home was keeping ALL negative out, even phone calls from negative people.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 178529
United States
6/27/2007 4:40 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Just some random thoughts...
First of all, op...are there any power lines or transformers nearby? The kind of energy manifestations you describe usually result around powerful electrical perturbances.
Another thing I know all too well of...if you are connecting to the internet from the house and within the field of disturbance, it's possible that this energy spilled out onto this thread when you first posted. Yes, too bad for all of us who responded. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 4:44 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
2XSA, ever notice how the people who make you sick inside are the ones who can't seem to get enough of you?
Like vampires.
I'm considering sage in bulk. |
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2XSecretAgent
User ID: 164883
United States
6/27/2007 4:50 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
2XSA, ever notice how the people who make you sick inside are the ones who can't seem to get enough of you?
Like vampires.
I'm considering sage in bulk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258032
I put sage oil in my bathwater!
I pay attention to my gut instincts about people. For the most part I am right. When I'm wrong, it's in trusting someone I should not. But I've never had a negative feeling about someone and later came to discover they are trustworthy. I do think there is a battle of psychic energy always going on in the world. Surround yourself with beauty and good people. It helps.
And if it IS your mom's spirit - do you and her have unfinished business?
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 4:52 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Just some random thoughts...
First of all, op...are there any power lines or transformers nearby? The kind of energy manifestations you describe usually result around powerful electrical perturbances.
Another thing I know all too well of...if you are connecting to the internet from the house and within the field of disturbance, it's possible that this energy spilled out onto this thread when you first posted. Yes, too bad for all of us who responded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 178529
Well, there are black rubber-coated lines running into the house, that's how I get electricity, right? Transformers, no.
And that's a disturbing thought, I certainly hope not. |
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 4:58 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
And if it IS your mom's spirit - do you and her have unfinished business? Quoting: 2XSecretAgent
Yes on both sides.
It would take 12 more lifetimes to finish it all. |
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2XSecretAgent
User ID: 164883
United States
6/27/2007 5:16 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
And if it IS your mom's spirit - do you and her have unfinished business?
Yes on both sides.
It would take 12 more lifetimes to finish it all. Quoting: op 258032
Did she scare you when she was alive?
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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op
User ID: 258032 (OP)
United States
6/27/2007 5:28 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
That's funny, you know she scared the living hell out of me.
For different reasons at different stages in my life, but yes, I was afraid of my mother.
And you know, she despised it when things would change. And I'm changing her house. And I've been throwing things away.
And we never said goodbye before she died.
I don't know... |
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~ Allie
User ID: 222969
United States
6/27/2007 5:31 PM
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“but I live alone” and others going through that which is similar ~
Interesting share! I’m glad you were so comfortable.
=)! I agree with trying to talk to that which you are feeling. Perhaps it is getting the same strange feeling from you?
If you walked into your room and a person was standing there, thinking it was his or her room, you'd probably both freak out, right?
Look at war, fights, arguments... everyone just has a viewpoint. There aren’t good guys and there aren’t bad guys… not fully. We can perceive someone that way, but if we opened our perspective a little maybe this would shed some different light on that person. If we looked into why that person felt like they did, what their motivations were and how their life was up to the point their perspective developed, can you consider that maybe that person isn’t evil. People are people. Everyone has a little good and a little bad.
Full-Evil beings don’t exist. Full-Loving beings don’t exist. We’re all a mix. There is a balance in recognizing this. A wolf isn’t evil for hunting down a bunny and a man isn’t evil because he killed some. I know the later comes out as bizarre to say to most. The point here is that the actions are perceived as evil because of the perspective the judger possesses. Opening ones view to understanding the motivations behind the actions can change one’s perspective, therein change one’s feelings about those being judged.
Furthermore, to just assume the entity is evil, perhaps because it is different, do you really feel that is right? These kind of interactions are increasing. How many times do we have to go through trying to hurt or suppress that which is different than us? How many times does history have to repeat itself until we realize this change in perspective needs to begin within?
If you are in that entity’s (perhaps vibrating at a different frequency then you so it is not as clear to you as these words are clearly seen) space and it really does feel as you do, do you hope it is trying to rid or cover you up? Perhaps this really is a chance for interaction. There could be something to learn from this, truly. It really can be a gift to be given a situation where one is able to radically change ones perspective to that which is more open.
I used to fear entities I felt in my space. I pushed away and hid them, just to find out later that the feelings I had were entirely based on my current perspective. Once I opened up they were willing to open up. It is been a very joyous interaction.
If I were you, I would give it a try =).
Much Love to you! I do hope you make the best choice for all involved =)!
O,
~ Allie
P.S. If it is a part of you then thats really something. I'd still encourage, in this case, to try to interact with the projected part of yourself. =D!
P.S.S. I don't support murder, but I don't think a person who has murdered is fully evil just because of one act. If this hit home, naturally, it would be harder to be open in this manner.
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2XSecretAgent
User ID: 164883
United States
6/27/2007 5:36 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
That's funny, you know she scared the living hell out of me.
For different reasons at different stages in my life, but yes, I was afraid of my mother.
And you know, she despised it when things would change. And I'm changing her house. And I've been throwing things away.
And we never said goodbye before she died.
I don't know... Quoting: op 258032
Maybe you should try to talk to her. Tell her good-bye. Even if it's not what you felt in the house, it could do some good.
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 191988
United States
6/27/2007 5:38 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
OP, the sage clears the negative vibe. The Lord's Prayer is you admittance that you need God. It's thanks and gratitude itself.
I don't ascribe to any religion. I used to be Wiccan for many years, but I think I outgrew it. However, i learned a lot. The thing bothering you could even be a thought form, or a leftover psychic anger. It's all energy and you're just tipping the energy into your favor.
I say ignore Phoenix, even though his intentions are good. It is your house and you are being attacked. No being alive or disincarnate has the right to attack you make you uncomfortable or invade your personal space. Take it back. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 189402
United States
6/27/2007 5:41 PM | | Re: I think there's something else living in my home | Quote |
Interesting that it was tuna you threw away this morning.... |
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~ Allie
User ID: 222969
United States
6/27/2007 5:48 PM
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OP, the sage clears the negative vibe. The Lord's Prayer is you admittance that you need God. It's thanks and gratitude itself.
I don't ascribe to any religion. I used to be Wiccan for many years, but I think I outgrew it. However, i learned a lot. The thing bothering you could even be a thought form, or a leftover psychic anger. It's all energy and you're just tipping the energy into your favor.
I say ignore Phoenix, even though his intentions are good. It is your house and you are being attacked. No being alive or disincarnate has the right to attack you make you uncomfortable or invade your personal space. Take it back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 191988
AC 191988 ~
Interesting view :). No being does have the right to take another's energy, but energy cannot be taken without being given. I also suggest that the "OP" takes back his or her energy =) (though I personally feel energy is infinite, which explains my second to last sentence following)!
Do you believe things vibrate at different levels? Wouldn't a thought form have to vibrate at a different level by its very nature. Do you know more on "though forms", which you could share here?
Thank you for your perspective!
Gratitude and thanks are beautiful things, as is God. I personally believe God is entirely within. What do you feel God is?
Love,
O,
~ Allie
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