Hi Earth Daughter.... yes, I have also had enough of hearing from these naysayers.
It is fine for people to have their opinion about something, and to say [ONCE] that they will not participate. But once is more than enough.
Amethyst and Dilatoriness - I now notice - have posted the same fear-filled messages on several of these Fire the Grid threads. I have already confronted them both on the Nesara thread..... with no sign of any capitulation.
It is SO disappointing that they can't keep their opinions to themselves. They are making a real mess [at least locally] of what could be a turning point in humanity's evolution. At least, that this what they appear to be trying to do.
The fact that they feel compelled to spread their venom across this entire board says a great deal about who and what they really are.
Sad, but true.
This is such a disappointing response. Filled with self righteous judgement.
Thanks for the eye opener.
Why the urgent need to condemn us?
Why the moral pressure on us?
Why are we not allowed to raise our opinions?
Just ask yourself these questions ...
The more I see such posts the more suspicious the whole thing is getting for me ... it just shows the old way of draconic laws behind.
And thanks ED!!!
Quoting: Dilatoriness
Thank you Boa2 and ED.
There should never be censorship of thoughts that do not match someone else's. Disagreement is one thing, condemnation another.
It is not a Lightworker's Path to decide for others.
Navigator* User ID: 195939 Canada 7/14/2007 4:03 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
What is wrong with you people? Are You spiritually blind? - Are you not just a bunch of New-Age/Pagan witches conspiring with demonic spirits?
Surely this is another sign of the End-Times, and surely God will not hold back His Wrath much longer!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266285
The Kitos Will Fracture
by Amitakh Stanford
(republished from the Nara site)
19th July 2006
The Lone Star Nation State fires its cannons of terror,
Many will watch as it spews venom at its enemies.
The Eagle's encouragement fuels the Lone Star Nation State's terror,
But - the kitos will fracture.
The Lone Star State of Texas and the Lone Star Nation State
Are linked for gain and greed.
For three months the Lone Star Nation State will gain weight,
But - it will then grow lean.
The supporting eagles will circle threateningly for a spell,
And then take flight.
Their abandonment of the Lone Star Nation State will leave it vulnerable,
And it will perish in its own blood.
The sound of great thunder will rock the sky and Earth,
No longer will the Eastern Dragon fear the Eagle.
Contradictions everywhere,
The world in chaos - no man's land.
Many await the wrath of God
To be meted out by Jesus.
The True God has no vengeance
And Jesus is here as an act of Love.
The Middle East is foretold to be Armageddon
But it is not.
Armageddon is not a place,
It is the symbolic battle between the Christ Energy and the Anti-Christ Energy.
Satan's Three Horsemen of the Apocalypse
Will soon ride and spread their terror.
Jesus will watch, waiting to retrieve his own from Satan's grasp.
It will be Christ's Final Victory.
I have read all the “Fire the Grid” threads and here is what I feel about it.
Things are changing very fast on the Earth and in people’s consciousness, as they must. More people than ever are aware of the power we each have through communications like “The Master Key,” “A Course in Miracles,” “The Secret,” and “Unlocking Reality,” to name just a few.
Millions of people are reading advanced spiritual teachings by Eckhart Tolle, the Conservations with God books, Ken Wilber, etc. This is not the old fear-based religious stuff of the past.
The Mayan calendar suggests and intense acceleration of transformation through the next 5 or 6 years. As I understand it, the current period in this Mayan “week” is about uncovering what is hidden. Many of us are experiencing this acceleration as a reality, not a belief.
I have been trying to connect the dots.
Please don’t get hung up on terms like “fire the grid” or the personality of Shelly Yates. This is not about her or the terminology.
Consider the idea or concept with an open mind. We each have the power of our focused mind, like a magnifying glass can focus the sunlight into an intense point of energy. Most of us do not focus our minds; our minds tend to be pretty undisciplined. The best way to find this out for yourself is to try meditation. Mediators observe the random, ruminative, compulsive nature of thinking.
This focusing of our mind is what the meaning of “Faith” is. This work is a concentration of Attention with Earnest Desire, Confident Expectation, and Firm Demand. This is not for the selfish or lazy or distracted. It is not for ego. Faith is not an intellectual belief system, as many may think today.
The vibrational frequency of our mind is quickened when the mind is continuously concentrated in a given direction. This is an even, unbroken flow of attention that is not brought about by effort. True concentration is to be so interested and engrossed in one thing that we are not conscious of anything else.
The idea, and then the action, of combining the energy of our attention in united focus is an extremely powerful one.
Jesus said “Where two or more are gathered together,” and “May they be one.” He said that those who really believed would do the same works as he did and even greater works.
If this Fire the Grid event is a true positive spiritual opportunity, I am sure that the opposition to it would be furious, due to the shift that many are resisting.
Here on Godlike Productions there is a strong focus on doom, but perhaps the wrong type of doom. It is an internal doom, not an external doom. It is the time of transformation, which involves an ending. The caterpillar is doomed. The ego is doomed and if all you know of yourself is ego, then a great doom it is, much to be feared and resisted.
Some people see this as new age demonic deception. There have been two streams in spiritual philosophy over the ages, the ascenders and the descenders. The descenders emphasize the holiness of the earth, the body, and in general the manifest world, including pleasure. The ascenders emphasize spirit vs. the flesh. The Gnostics are ascenders; Witches are descenders. The differences are most apparent around the issue of sexuality.
The fact is both are right; we no longer need this false dichotomy. It is the integration of both the ascenders and the descenders that we need. The east and the west coming together. The female and the male coming together. Recognizing and honoring the holiness (oneness) of all that it is, both manifest and unmanifest. “Come together, right now.”
It says in the Bible that when God made the Universe, they saw it as “good.”
I for one will set my alarm and participate on July 17th at 3:11 AM for one hour and send out as much love and positive energy as I can. This is really a no-brainer and the resistance I’ve read, the arguments against it, demonstrate why we have the society we do. We must grow up or self-destruct, and there are many indications that we do not have a lot of time.
Come together people.
Tansau User ID: 261300 United States 7/14/2007 4:59 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Ditto One! "Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.
PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood" - Ahim-sa
"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam
"You're on Earth for a reason. Live It best you can" Div
del re User ID: 103745 Austria 7/14/2007 5:53 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
There is no "my" God, "your" God - we don't each have our own God - there is only one God.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266285
Wrong (for me), the God someones worship in Old Testament is not the God Jesus talks about in Gospels. The Old Testament one is Wrath and Hate. The Jesus one is a loving Father. And probably some speeches of Jesus were distorted when he was saying where we can find this Father: inside us (that I interpret as we are Gods in school, I know christians don't like this thinking).
The Bible was wrote probably by channelers as we name them today. Some channelers distort the received info, and some channelers just don't connect with spiritual beings but some lower ones with totalitarians points of view or worst. You just need read and discern what you feel is right for you.
The "wrath god" judging you when you are dead is: yourself!!!
When you are dead you FEEL all the pain you caused on others. After you FEEL all the pain you judge different than you judge here when you don't feel the pain you cause but only observes it. When you FEEL you are in a hurry to try to avoid this.
Pretty interesting, this hole thing. Will there be any changes after this date, I men changes that we all will see in our real world?
Quoting: del re 103745
I hope to see some news about scandals affecting some in governments, some news about new science discoveries to avoid pollution, etc. I hope to see good news. Science is going to give us very good news, this is channeled info I believe in.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 266419 New Zealand 7/14/2007 7:11 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Pretty interesting, this hole thing. Will there be any changes after this date, I men changes that we all will see in our real world?
Quoting: del re 103745
According to Shelley nothing big will happen. It will only change be a subtle change in perceptions. More sensitive people may experience more dramatic effects.
Either way it will facilitate in changing peoples outlook for the better, eventually.
It's a START basically.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 266058 United States 7/14/2007 7:14 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Pretty interesting, this hole thing. Will there be any changes after this date, I men changes that we all will see in our real world?
According to Shelley nothing big will happen. It will only change be a subtle change in perceptions. More sensitive people may experience more dramatic effects.
Either way it will facilitate in changing peoples outlook for the better, eventually.
It's a START basically.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266058
oops on the typo's ...but I think you get my point.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 195939 Canada 7/14/2007 7:36 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
after reading through the website of fire the grid and other references on the subject it seems to me that the reciever of the info is not unlike all others that receive this type of information from unseen beings.
at the time of the beginning of contact these people share the same traits described below.
they are greatest of complainers. dissatisfied with everything and blaming everybody else but themselves for it. (this is according to her own words).
they are atheists or at least dislike the idea of there existing a benevolent God because their perception of their lives is bleak, spiteful, and unthankful.(this according to her own words)
they are rebellious and willful. LOOKING OUT FOR THEMSELVES BEFORE OTHERS . This attitude is also reflected by what she has been told to CONTINUE to believe in. Self First.
they all make references to free uninhibited sex somewhere in their teachings. (this , again, in her words). I am making this out to be a necessarily 'bad' thing, but I am saying that it is a common thread in these types of scenarios.
they AVOID the mentioning of Jesus Christ , and if questioned, they refer to him as nothing but a man.
they make clear implications that the earth is sacred, but do not make references to God being sacred.
they state that the earth needs our help, but they do not make references to God assisting in helping the earth...very interesting, huh? In fact, these types EXCLUDE any sort of help EVER comming from the CREATOR of THE EARTH.
they refer to unseen guides that speak to them and these guides ALWAYS empathize with the pain and blame of the oracle.
I could go on and on about this...but I think you all get the picture.
I honestly find no fault with their path.
It simply is not mine.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6122 United States 7/15/2007 9:16 AM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Fire the grid is a very nice project ... but what concerns shally ... i don't believe her story , she maybe trying to send out positive message , but for the love of GOD , don't do that by lies , GOD said u shall not lie.
T-Bone User ID: 6122 United States 7/15/2007 1:13 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Fire the grid is a very nice project ... but what concerns shally ... i don't believe her story , she maybe trying to send out positive message , but for the love of GOD , don't do that by lies , GOD said u shall not lie.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266717
Just check it out. Choose for yourself.
"GOD said u shall not lie". Someone should Alert The Media!!!
Nth Degree User ID: 264834 United States 7/15/2007 1:56 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
The Kalahari Kung are a mostly hunter/gatherer tribe in Africa that use firewalking (walking on burning coals) as a healing ceremony on a regular basis.
However, if there's been an incident of ill will between tribal members it is believed that this ill will can spread like a cancer, deeply infecting not only the original parties but their families and eventually the tribe.
Living close to the land over eons the Kung know that this situation of fear and dissention, if allowed to continue, could destroy the tribe.
Using firewalking, they join their intention to raise the energy of the group and re-create harmony, brotherhood and a united intention for peace.
What rituals do WE have that raises energy (in a group setting) and creates a positive, united intention for peace?
Setting a time and intention to focus on peace is powerful as the Kung, and many other groups, have known for a long time.
It inspires fear because it's not usually part of our culture - except, perhaps, in sporting events, musical concerts and "revival" meetings - so it is unusual. Yet, bringing out the fear is one of it's purposes.
Still, it's the people taking responsibility for their desires to set a positive intention for the future. You wouldn't plan a trip without a positive intention to be prepared for travel and to arrive at your destination safely and without incident.
Perhaps one day we will see the wisdom in regularly raising energy and creating intention as a group; there is much to be learned from people living close to the earth and their emphasis on intimate, "tribal" living.
To join in group meditation or thoughts/feelings of peace can be a starting point in realizing that we have the actual power in the world; not the PTB, the corporations or politicians.
As we rise above fear, we see the truth; we create peace...
Earth Daughter Wide Awake User ID: 266824 United States 7/15/2007 2:03 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
The Kalahari Kung are a mostly hunter/gatherer tribe in Africa that use firewalking (walking on burning coals) as a healing ceremony on a regular basis.
However, if there's been an incident of ill will between tribal members it is believed that this ill will can spread like a cancer, deeply infecting not only the original parties but their families and eventually the tribe.
Living close to the land over eons the Kung know that this situation of fear and dissention, if allowed to continue, could destroy the tribe.
Using firewalking, they join their intention to raise the energy of the group and re-create harmony, brotherhood and a united intention for peace.
What rituals do WE have that raises energy (in a group setting) and creates a positive, united intention for peace?
Setting a time and intention to focus on peace is powerful as the Kung, and many other groups, have known for a long time.
It inspires fear because it's not usually part of our culture - except, perhaps, in sporting events, musical concerts and "revival" meetings - so it is unusual. Yet, bringing out the fear is one of it's purposes.
Still, it's the people taking responsibility for their desires to set a positive intention for the future. You wouldn't plan a trip without a positive intention to be prepared for travel and to arrive at your destination safely and without incident.
Perhaps one day we will see the wisdom in regularly raising energy and creating intention as a group; there is much to be learned from people living close to the earth and their emphasis on intimate, "tribal" living.
To join in group meditation or thoughts/feelings of peace can be a starting point in realizing that we have the actual power in the world; not the PTB, the corporations or politicians.
As we rise above fear, we see the truth; we create peace...
Quoting: Nth Degree
Beautifully said!
Nth Degree User ID: 264834 United States 7/15/2007 2:23 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
In 1993 a group of scientists led by John Hagelin conducted an experiment in which several thousand people in Washington D.C. would meditate together twice a day for almost 2 months. This was correlated with a highly significant reduction in crime in the city.
Neale Walsch author of Conversations with God is supporting her, as well as over 10 million people all over the world.
Ten MILLION Gullible fools, from the looks of it, the vid started a fire in the GLP woodwork and they're all run'
out like cockroaches.
This must be the NWO religion they have been warning us about. All the hidden NWO agents support this thing. LOL It is sad though how they can keep using human emotions to enslave humans. Everyone says I'm against the NWO but when this woman says the only way to save the world in love is to create a NWO they are all for it. Very strange. Another thing we need to be tribal and get back to our rituals? Okay does that mean we start ritually killing each other in public again?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 259755
I'm really not sure what to make of all of this. I'm a bit slow on the uptake, so just watched these videos today out of sheer curiosity of what all of these "Fire the Grid" threads were about. After watching the videos, I too was struck by her sincerity, but what struck me as a bit odd, was the fact that...here she is recounting a very emotionally charged time in her life involving the near death of her and her son, and not one tear? Not even so much as getting a bit choked up or a pause in her speach? I don't know about the rest of you, but when I talk about something that happened to me in my life involving deep trauma such as this, I have a tough time talking about it.
This asside, as a believer, I too am concerned about her push to include all religions. Don't get me wrong...it's not so much that she didn't exclude these religion, but more to the point, she didn't seem to include Christ. And the Bible only seemed to be thrown in as an after thought. We are warned about false teachers and prophets in the last days, and we are told that we will know them by their denile of Jesus Christ. She seems to make a big to do about her Atheism, even AFTER this experience. I don't know about you guys, but even if I was an Atheist, were I to have an experience like this, I believe that I would come out of it with a whole new look at a belief in God and some inner truth about His son wouldn't you? I guess it depends on what we believe?
On the some-what possitive side of things, her message does sound like one of love and light. But as another poster already mentioned. Satan DOES mascarade as an angel of "light."
I also couldn't help but think of her timing for this message, as well as the time frame of one hour for this meditation experiment. It really brought to mind the part in Revelation before the final plagues are unleashed upon the earth about there being silence in Heaven for 1 HOUR.
Never the less, regardless of how I felt about this whole thing, I did think that for better or for worse, history was about to be made in two days time and everyone should know what is about to take place being that this is a global effort. So I copy pasted the link into an e'mail and sent it to everyone in my address list. With the following message attached:
Ok, I don’t normally get ‘involved’ with stuff like this, but I felt compelled to get ‘involved’ with this one. The reasons for the quotes around involve, come from not really knowing where I stand with this. All I know is that I felt compelled to get this word out to all whom I know, so I thought I’d start with my e’mail address book.
The following link is to a “You Tube” series of videos. There are approx. 6 videos at the time this was mailed out to you, and they are each approx. 9 minutes in length. You’ll need to set aside about an hour to watch the whole thing. While that may seem like a lot of your time, if you’re like me, after watching the first 9 minute segment, you will be surprised that 9 minutes have actually passed! This series of videos is about an ordinary women who tells the very captivating story and testimony of her life. By ordinary, I mean there is nothing about her outwardly or physical appearance that really jumps out at you. She could be your next store neighbor, or someone you’d pass by in a grocery store. In other words, just one of us average people;)
That is all I’m going to tell you about the video, but suffice it to say that she has gained world wide attention and it sounds like many different people from all walks of life and various locations around the globe are on board with what she talks about. The reason I felt compelled to forward this to you guys, is because I feel that history is about to be made, either for the good or the bad depending on your take of what she has started. So if nothing else, I felt that everyone should be awake and aware to what is about to take place in only a couple of days. After the video’s be sure to scroll down and check out the comments from across the globe about what she is doing and about to do.
As for me? I’m still undecided about all of this and as a skeptical person, I so far, have only felt the need to get this word out. Do with the info. What you will, but I would very much appreciate any feed back that any of you would like to give me. My thoughts at this time are like road signs…”slow down and use caution before proceeding.”
Very Sincerely,
****** Remember...Real Truth Is Self Evident;)
Can't PM? Feel free to e'mail me at ldy_wolf@sbcglobal.net
Lady Wolf User ID: 257828 United States 7/15/2007 10:38 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Praise The Holy Of Holy ::: My son was telling me Dad did you know every other religion offers you a chance to become a God !! Even some so called Christian religions like the Mormons ! Even or own bible talks about an offer to be a God! I said wait a minute , there is no promise to be a God !! He said yes in Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. ::::I said your right there is a promise ye shall be as Gods!! ,from Satan! All these other religions offer Satan's destructive promise! My son said its like rat poison 99% corn but that 1% poison takes em to Hell! Praise the Lamb: Amen
Quoting: wing-ed
Wing-ed, that is a very good point, and I too get some bad vibes from all of this, but you made me think of another verse that says something to the effect of (and this is Jesus speaking I think?) Do you not know that you are gods? I think it's in the NT well...of course it would be, if it is Him actually speaking...What do you make of this? Remember...Real Truth Is Self Evident;)
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Lady Wolf User ID: 257828 United States 7/15/2007 11:08 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
did anyone happen to catch the significance of this women's last name? Yates. Ring a bell? Andrea Yates? Remember what she did? She was the women who drowned her 5 children in the bathtub. Same last name...same thing happening drowning or near drowning. Coincidence? Remember too, that Andrea Yates believed that God told her to murder her 5 children in order to save them. Could we have been given a clue in this story? I don't know, but I thought I would bring it up. Not saying that Shelly Yates is evil or anything, not enough evidence for that so far, just saying interesting coincidence? If you belive in coincidences that is. Remember...Real Truth Is Self Evident;)
Can't PM? Feel free to e'mail me at ldy_wolf@sbcglobal.net
Veritas User ID: 267098 Australia 7/15/2007 11:35 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
Hmmm. David Koresh and that Heaven's Gate guy also said they were in touch with light beings who gave them apocalyptic warnings about Earth and such. Not saying this woman is deluded or evil; she may be genuine. I will meditate anyway - because I meditate a lot so what the hell.
BTW, 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time is 9:11 pm on my computer clock here in Australia in the eastern time zone. Just a coincidence? Who knows?
Just a thought.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 265981 United States 7/15/2007 11:38 PM
Re: Video - Fire the Grid - July 17 2007 11:11 Greenwich Mean Time -- MUST SEE VIDEO~
did anyone happen to catch the significance of this women's last name? Yates. Ring a bell? Andrea Yates? Remember what she did? She was the women who drowned her 5 children in the bathtub. Same last name...same thing happening drowning or near drowning. Coincidence? Remember too, that Andrea Yates believed that God told her to murder her 5 children in order to save them. Could we have been given a clue in this story? I don't know, but I thought I would bring it up. Not saying that Shelly Yates is evil or anything, not enough evidence for that so far, just saying interesting coincidence? If you belive in coincidences that is.
Quoting: Lady Wolf
That is a good point. Let us also not forget that Shelley Yates is a product of sexual abuse as a child. She is an admitted athiest and never once has claimed (even after her and her son were saved) to belive in God. She belives beings are instructing her, but she doesn't belive there is a God. That is a very strong point to ponder on.
Here are some other RED FLAGS: the beings made her get a serpent tattoo; they can only contact her while she is in the tub (naked); they send her messages in music; Fire the Grid must begin at 11:11 GMT (a well known and used Illuminati symbol); she was on the verge of suicide when she wrecked, and if you all will remember in her story she said she felt the sudden NEED to drive to her friends house despite a horrible storm and flooding.
All of these things lead me to be extremely cautious and everyone else should to.
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