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Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 168386 7/20/2007 10:22 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Just putting this tread to rest with this update, so everyone knows how the story ended. I'm dropping the subject now. Quoting: Agnes 269633
Glad to hear you're OK. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. |
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smile User ID: 457654 6/24/2008 7:15 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I want to share a horrific experience that should serve as a warning to anyone using or considering using binaural beat brainwave entrainment.
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end. I ended up the other night with convulsions that are still keep coming back. I am still tripping. My pupils are still dialated. I was unable to control the projections from my subconscious (those images and thoughts you see and get while falling asleep) for some time. I keep getting these terrible rushes through my nervous system, and it's not relenting. I am experiencing tremors, sleep disturbances, exhaustion, inability to sleep, mood swings, scattered mind, auditory distortions, hypnogogic hallucinations, and sheer terror. I was extremely scared that I would die.
I issued a warning to the I-Doser forum and it was deleted. I posted another warning and soon after it too was deleted and I was banned. This, needless to point out, is highly suspect. I am still not sure what will happen to my brain and body, if there will be permanent damage, and if I will ever feel quite right again. Quoting: Agnes 260148
Agnes, how long did it take for Jeremy Greene to respond to you. I'm suffering (I think) from side effects enduced by Holosync. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 460533 6/30/2008 2:57 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Okay, my advise would be to stop any brainwave entrainment practice if you don't enjoy the experience or if it irritates you. You should use this technology to learn to access states that helps you, and don't abuse ! |
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***** Mae User ID: 460502 6/30/2008 4:08 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | OP is obviously a drug case that also posts while drunk. I recognize the speech mannerisms, but I can't pin down who they are, just that they are an attention-whore drug case seeking attention. Google "histrionics". |
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***** Mae User ID: 460502 6/30/2008 4:12 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
No, I am not one of the mods.
I think this is a form of stimulant psychosis. Quoting: Agnes 260980
So do I. I think you're just a crystal meth tweaker that accidentally got drunk and needed to draw attention to yourself. I bet if I contacted the Holosync people they would know in two seconds what nutjob has been bugging them and has an axe to grind. |
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ACDC User ID: 433433 6/30/2008 4:15 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | I used (not abused) brain wave entrainment for about 12 months several years ago and found that it does work. However the states it creates are largely unsatisfying and artificial. I thought I could use it to supplement my normal buddhist samatha meditation (which I have done for thirty years). Absolutely no comparison! Samatha works at much deeper levels and is heaps more natural, gentle and satisfying overall. Agnes go and get proper instruction on meditation.. |
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***** Mae User ID: 460502 6/30/2008 4:16 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Oh Jeeze, now that I google "I-Dose" it seems obvious that this whole thread is just commercial stealth spam.
FWIW the progenitor of this concept was free, it was a DOS program called 'Digital Narcotics'. OP is a loser. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 459542 6/30/2008 4:17 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | This brainwave entertainment sounds like a cleverly disguised brainwashing program. MK-ULTRA right on your PC? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 460502 6/30/2008 4:19 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Oh Jeeze, now that I google "I-Dose" it seems obvious that this whole thread is just commercial stealth spam.
FWIW the progenitor of this concept was free, it was a DOS program called 'Digital Narcotics'. OP is a loser. Quoting: ***** Mae 460502
That should say "google "I-Doser"
find "Digital Narcotics" program instead, don't reward spammers.
OP is still a loser. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 241684 6/30/2008 4:22 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I want to share a horrific experience that should serve as a warning to anyone using or considering using binaural beat brainwave entrainment.
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end. I ended up the other night with convulsions that are still keep coming back. I am still tripping. My pupils are still dialated. I was unable to control the projections from my subconscious (those images and thoughts you see and get while falling asleep) for some time. I keep getting these terrible rushes through my nervous system, and it's not relenting. I am experiencing tremors, sleep disturbances, exhaustion, inability to sleep, mood swings, scattered mind, auditory distortions, hypnogogic hallucinations, and sheer terror. I was extremely scared that I would die.
I issued a warning to the I-Doser forum and it was deleted. I posted another warning and soon after it too was deleted and I was banned. This, needless to point out, is highly suspect. I am still not sure what will happen to my brain and body, if there will be permanent damage, and if I will ever feel quite right again. Quoting: Agnes 260148
Ordering the CD Idoser
It is way way beyond cheaper then bying my shrooms
thanks for the valuable information OP you are my hero! |
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Listen User ID: 425546 6/30/2008 4:31 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | to the OP. There are dangers with brain wave entrancement. It is better to break into these things carefully.
There ARE other forces at work and brainwave entrancement is one way to get to YOU. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 471757 7/22/2008 9:43 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Agnes what I-doser did you use to make you freak out so bad? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 471757 7/22/2008 9:43 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Agnes what I-doser did you use to make you freak out so bad? |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 7/28/2008 12:17 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Hay I just wanted to say I have been using I-doser for several weeks and especially the 5HTP and it just makes me sleepy. The Quick Happy Dose will make you ALERT!! and you will feel it working through your body (of course through your brain to get the sensations).. I also went to the Hemi-Sync website and bought the "GATEWAY" hemi-sync cd it actually has 6 waves and comes with 3 cd's each 1 hour long and costs 99.00 with tax it's 109.00... this is cool stuff and it works... you do have auditory experiences and out of body projection and it seems to heighten ALL SENSES!! you know things are there when you cannot see them.... it's really strange how our brains work and we only use 30% or less of our brains so messing with the other percentage will bring big shock to your mind... also I suggest buying "KUNDALINI the AWAKENING it opens up all CHAKRAS and you experience stuff that does not seem possible.. you must be careful when opening up all chakrasbecause once there open there IS NO TURNING BACK!!! for those of you who freak out easily... this is a cd you play with headphones as well as the hemi-sync gateway experience.  |
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illusi0n User ID: 472453 7/28/2008 3:38 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Try taking .5-1 mg of melatonin every night for awhile
before you goto sleep
as this will help to put all of your sensors,
glands.. back in working mode; the pineal
gland is the regulator of all glands and pretty
much everything that goes on in the body
it's the conductor of all in there... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 475010 7/28/2008 6:38 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Could be the crack modified the original executable in an unexpected way causing your problem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 475013 7/28/2008 7:20 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | Agnes,
It seems that you are seiure prone. Do you have similar problems when you watch TV for a while.
This music is created to relax you.
There are all sorts of brainwave entrainment programs available. Some of them are designed to wake you up.
There are also programs that you can set to various sound frequencies for various purposes.
I have hemi-sync tapes, have listened to them often and have no problems. Actually I don't even have the effect they claim to give you. Its nice music, and I daydream a bit. Maybe that is what it is supposed to do. Pleasant day dreams by the way. |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Just putting this tread to rest with this update, so everyone knows how the story ended. I'm dropping the subject now.
Glad to hear you're OK. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168386
Agnes... Hi its Angel of Arts(Lori) you need to read my new threads I posted today you will find them very helpful (I think) please read what I have to say.... look for today's date which is 8.5.08 just in case you don't see this for a few days.... |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 1:37 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Hay I just wanted to say I have been using I-doser for several weeks and especially the 5HTP and it just makes me sleepy. The Quick Happy Dose will make you ALERT!! and you will feel it working through your body (of course through your brain to get the sensations).. I also went to the Hemi-Sync website and bought the "GATEWAY" hemi-sync cd it actually has 6 waves and comes with 3 cd's each 1 hour long and costs 99.00 with tax it's 109.00... this is cool stuff and it works... you do have auditory experiences and out of body projection and it seems to heighten ALL SENSES!! you know things are there when you cannot see them.... it's really strange how our brains work and we only use 30% or less of our brains so messing with the other percentage will bring big shock to your mind... also I suggest buying "KUNDALINI the AWAKENING it opens up all CHAKRAS and you experience stuff that does not seem possible.. you must be careful when opening up all chakrasbecause once there open there IS NO TURNING BACK!!! for those of you who freak out easily... this is a cd you play with headphones as well as the hemi-sync gateway experience.  Quoting: Angel of Arts 471757
I have got 2 new cd's that everyone might like they are:::
BMV Quantum Subliminal Mystic Visionary Seer..and the other is::: The Mysterious Mind Meditation.. both of the cd's are binaural beats, music, with ULTRASONIC subliminal messaging they do work I have been using them now for 2 weeks....
I posted a new thread earlier but cannot find it and the damn thing is SOOOO LONG!!! I hate to have to type what I wrote again but I know it will be helpful so I guess I will have to type it again anyway....
First of to tell you about "me" I am a swimsuit model and I do magazine layouts and t.v. and I also am a member of:::
O.T.O(ORDO TEMPLI ORIENTIS) but I practice alone at home 4 nights a week doing EXTREME ritual magick.. which means my mind and body have to be in tune altogether.... No ONE should ever F*&*&*ck around and abuse binaural beats because once you open up full Kundalini THERE IS NO CLOSING IT!! it STAYS OPEN AND THATS THAT!!! it will mimic chronic fatique syndrom, depression, ADD and all sorts of other illnesses tat will be misdiagnosed by doctors and will lock you up in a mental institution if your not careful.. They will load you up with meds YOU DON'T need and will never work because you don't have any illness they think you have.. They will diagnose phycosis and all sorts of B.S. because they won't be able to pinpoint what the true cause is.. AND BELIEVE ME! there are spiritual forces that are aware of you tapping into higher conciousnessand just because you might not believe in demonic entities does not mean they are not there THEY DO BELIEVE IN US!!! TRUST WHAT I AM SAYING I invoke these entities doing my rituals... so if you abuse the binaural beats and any other brain entrainment you are opening yourself wide open to things you will not comprehend... I get scared all the time but I only use them when needed (cd's)Just imagine if I showed up for a shoot with dilated eyes!! and freakin out on stuff no one else could see!! I WOULD LOSE MY JOB!!.. you must ahve respect for unknown realities.. Our reality and what we see is so miniscule its like a spec of dust compared to whats really there in our unseen world.. opening our minds to greater knowledge comes with a greater price to pay but KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! so you must be able to enjoy that power and not lose your mind at the same time...
Agnus.. whomever told you to smoke weed...DON'T DO IT!!! it will only fog your mind and won't let it heal... Listen to the cd's I listed and you can drink a glass of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay which is a dry white wine and only 12 dollars a bottle and only if you are 21!!!! years old or older and drink the glass while relaxing and sitting down to listen to your cd's to help you calm your mind..You do not want sweet wine because of the sugar in it and it will give you a bad headach afterwards because of this... so only get dry white wines and red's have alot of histimines in them which will cause stuffy nose and headache while relaxing to these cd's (or any other's you choose)..
Remember do not EVER repeatedly listen to binaurals hours on end Agnes because if you do become crazy you would be better off on an island eating bananas and coconuts if you are sane enough to be able to open them!!!! then having to go to a mental hospital... and POSSESSION IS REAL!! folks.. it does happen and the symptoms you explained could very well be possession whether no one wants to believe it or not... and it is not FUN! and it takes a long time to get over and sometimes you never get over it.....EVER!!!!!!!!!!!
believe what I am saying for your own sake.... I do know.
Angel of Arts(Lori)
any questions I will be glad to answer and also EVERYONE..check out the website MIND CONTROL 101 you will get free PDF'S on all mind control stuff!!!!!! it is priceless info!!! you get new PDF'S sent to your e-mail address every day or so with EXACT INSTRUCTIONS!!! |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 1:44 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
to the OP. There are dangers with brain wave entrancement. It is better to break into these things carefully.
There ARE other forces at work and brainwave entrancement is one way to get to YOU. Quoting: Listen 425546
Hi! I just wanted to ask you a question about when you say there ARE forces out there and using brain entrainment is one way to get to you...
How do you know this??? I do know this can happen but I would like to know what has made you believe this as well...
just curious.. |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 1:49 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Agnes what I-doser did you use to make you freak out so bad? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471757
SHE USED the 5HTP that I have been listening to with the
I-DOSER its an anti depressent listed as Moderate strength
Angel of Arts |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 1:52 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Agnes what I-doser did you use to make you freak out so bad?
SHE USED the 5HTP that I have been listening to with the
I-DOSER its an anti depressent listed as Moderate strength
Angel of Arts Quoting: Angel of Arts 471757
I HAVE NEVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH I-DOSER BEFORE but I do not listen for hours straight at a time either... how does someone have that much time on their hands??? I would not know. |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I want to share a horrific experience that should serve as a warning to anyone using or considering using binaural beat brainwave entrainment.
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end. I ended up the other night with convulsions that are still keep coming back. I am still tripping. My pupils are still dialated. I was unable to control the projections from my subconscious (those images and thoughts you see and get while falling asleep) for some time. I keep getting these terrible rushes through my nervous system, and it's not relenting. I am experiencing tremors, sleep disturbances, exhaustion, inability to sleep, mood swings, scattered mind, auditory distortions, hypnogogic hallucinations, and sheer terror. I was extremely scared that I would die.
I issued a warning to the I-Doser forum and it was deleted. I posted another warning and soon after it too was deleted and I was banned. This, needless to point out, is highly suspect. I am still not sure what will happen to my brain and body, if there will be permanent damage, and if I will ever feel quite right again.
Ordering the CD Idoser
It is way way beyond cheaper then bying my shrooms
thanks for the valuable information OP you are my hero! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 241684
SHE USED THE 5HTP!!! not the cd you order and is sent to your house.. this is a dose you purchase online and download it straight to your computer and listen to it with headphones.. USE THE SONY HEADPHONES that wrap around your ears because these let all the waves come through for the GREATEST effect in both ears |
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J3443-ONE User ID: 433480 8/5/2008 2:02 PM
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 2:03 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Agnes,
It seems that you are seiure prone. Do you have similar problems when you watch TV for a while.
This music is created to relax you.
There are all sorts of brainwave entrainment programs available. Some of them are designed to wake you up.
There are also programs that you can set to various sound frequencies for various purposes.
I have hemi-sync tapes, have listened to them often and have no problems. Actually I don't even have the effect they claim to give you. Its nice music, and I daydream a bit. Maybe that is what it is supposed to do. Pleasant day dreams by the way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475013
Hay you got to try the hemi-sync cd "Radiance" if you don't have it already it is great! and very pleasant to listen to you cannot hardly hear the binaurals coming through.. it's that good.. I have 3 more I just got in the mail yesterday and I will list them tomorrow because I don't remember the exact names to all 3... also go to BINAURAL-BEATS.COM!!!!!!! they have everything and also fo to:::::
UNEXPLAINABLE .COM they HAVE EVERY BINAURAL BEAT cd for EVERYTHING!!!! whatever you want to use it for there is a cd for it.... and you get FREE SAMPLES before you by so you can see the affects it has before you purchase... and you get free detailed info on how to meditate and HAVE OUTER BODY experiences and Lucid dreaming and Hypnosis..... |
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Angel of Arts User ID: 471757 8/5/2008 2:07 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
BE NICE!!! this is here to voice your opinion THATS ALL!! nothing more.... |
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ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 8/6/2008 8:00 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote | I have not had such an experience but those who investigate should use discretion.
I have used biofeedback for myself even in not using an subliminal but a GSR device and using my own mind/abilities to solicit response I desired.
Seems many who get into this forget the amount of work one generally completes before ethereal experiences disrupt us-knowing the lay of the land so to speak. One can achieve through meditation,NLP,subliminals,biofeedback, exercise(whirling dervishes),drumming, RESONANCE....or even others with hallucinogens like peyote,shrooms,???
Ultimately, if one is not ready to go to a certain level and they force it-it is DANGEROUS and can have miild to heavy consequences.
Like trying to put a heavier electrical load on a wire that cannot handle it
could cause damage
Like wanting to run before one can walk, or wanting to boat before one can swim-potentially opens the door to problems
Or another consideration:
It could be raising alarm so their CODEX ALIMENTARIUS is more easily passed-restricting health options and alternative options or choices, regulating even vitamin C
Just like all the crazy killers with guns...attempting to change gun laws could be anothers agenda
a diffrent spin??? |
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Winningjob  Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. User ID: 385114 8/6/2008 8:18 PM
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 477991 8/6/2008 10:01 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Agnes,
It seems that you are seiure prone. Do you have similar problems when you watch TV for a while.
This music is created to relax you.
There are all sorts of brainwave entrainment programs available. Some of them are designed to wake you up.
There are also programs that you can set to various sound frequencies for various purposes.
I have hemi-sync tapes, have listened to them often and have no problems. Actually I don't even have the effect they claim to give you. Its nice music, and I daydream a bit. Maybe that is what it is supposed to do. Pleasant day dreams by the way.
Hay you got to try the hemi-sync cd "Radiance" if you don't have it already it is great! and very pleasant to listen to you cannot hardly hear the binaurals coming through.. it's that good.. I have 3 more I just got in the mail yesterday and I will list them tomorrow because I don't remember the exact names to all 3... also go to BINAURAL-BEATS.COM!!!!!!! they have everything and also fo to:::::
UNEXPLAINABLE .COM they HAVE EVERY BINAURAL BEAT cd for EVERYTHING!!!! whatever you want to use it for there is a cd for it.... and you get FREE SAMPLES before you by so you can see the affects it has before you purchase... and you get free detailed info on how to meditate and HAVE OUTER BODY experiences and Lucid dreaming and Hypnosis..... Quoting: Angel of Arts 471757
ROFL, excellent spam! |
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