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Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52612
8/7/2008 3:34 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Ok ok I downloaded the stuff with loads of doses and guess which one I did first.....DMT
funny as hell
Will try the peyote or lsd tomorrow...
I wish I found this sooner... |
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Angel of Arts
User ID: 471757
8/7/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Ok ok I downloaded the stuff with loads of doses and guess which one I did first.....DMT
funny as hell
Will try the peyote or lsd tomorrow...
I wish I found this sooner... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52612
I actually have 2 real peyote plants!!! I would be scared to use them(roots) internally though I would not want to trip so bad where I ended up crazy...but it is cool to actually own 2 of these plants(cactus) they are illegal alot of places though and mine were shipped from England and are 3 years old and they bloom 1 little flower in the middle every now and then....... |
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Angel of Arts
User ID: 471757
8/7/2008 4:56 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Ok ok I downloaded the stuff with loads of doses and guess which one I did first.....DMT
funny as hell
Will try the peyote or lsd tomorrow...
I wish I found this sooner... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52612
I forgot to say that I have "GATE OF HADES" from I-Doser... that is a crazy strange one.... but its 200 bucks!!! but I love this one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480622
8/7/2008 5:15 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
It's been four days since the onset of the overdose symptoms. I am far too drained to swim or walk. When I do I get over stimulated, full of energy, then the rushes start again, the convulsions, and weakness and exhaustion take over. Quoting: Agnes 260394
Geez, I have pretty much all these symptoms except the convulsions and have never gotten anywhere near brainwave entrainment programs, maybe it's HAARP and we're all being brainwave entrained ? |
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db
User ID: 481137
8/8/2008 2:15 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Which Dose were you listening to? |
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*************
User ID: 471757
8/8/2008 2:54 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Which Dose were you listening to? Quoting: db 481137
the 5HTP dose.............................. |
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Whee! 8D 
Devil's advocate
User ID: 479803
8/8/2008 3:14 PM
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I-Doser Quoting: Agnes 260148
There is the problem.
Try
[link to www.transparentcorp.com]
Instead. I-Dozer is bullshit.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!] |
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Whee! 8D
Devil's advocate
User ID: 479803
8/8/2008 3:17 PM
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I want to share a horrific experience that should serve as a warning to anyone using or considering using binaural beat brainwave entrainment.
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end. I ended up the other night with convulsions that are still keep coming back. I am still tripping. My pupils are still dialated. I was unable to control the projections from my subconscious (those images and thoughts you see and get while falling asleep) for some time. I keep getting these terrible rushes through my nervous system, and it's not relenting. I am experiencing tremors, sleep disturbances, exhaustion, inability to sleep, mood swings, scattered mind, auditory distortions, hypnogogic hallucinations, and sheer terror. I was extremely scared that I would die.
I issued a warning to the I-Doser forum and it was deleted. I posted another warning and soon after it too was deleted and I was banned. This, needless to point out, is highly suspect. I am still not sure what will happen to my brain and body, if there will be permanent damage, and if I will ever feel quite right again. Quoting: Agnes 260148
Isn't there a kind of eraser with idozer?
Maybe you should try it.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508596
9/22/2008 6:27 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
go to the hospital? |
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Ange
User ID: 540724
11/2/2008 7:44 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Agnes, thank you for the warning. Sounds like you want us to learn from your experience that that too much of good thing really can be bad for us. A couple of days ago, I ordered Holosync's brainwave entrainment system. It hasn't arrived yet, but when it does, I will be careful not to overdo it. I think they recommend 1 hour per day. I'll stick with that. Thanks for again for caring enough to post a warning for those who are willing to heed. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 540757
11/2/2008 9:02 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I've always had FUN with I-Doser. After a half hour of listening to 'lucid dreams' I felt so drunk afterwards I could barely walk straight!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 540757
11/2/2008 9:11 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Another time I had I-Doser playing when I went off to sleep. Next thing I knew I was flying or orbiting like an astronaut around the world, and I still remember the AMAZING vivid colors of the landscapes below. It was just beyond REAL !!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 556560
11/22/2008 3:34 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
OK I'm starting to feel better today.
Appetite is returning, stuff is not smelling gross anymore. Convulsions are easing and easier to control consciously. Hypnogogic hallucinations / subconscious projections still assaulting me but letting up. Waking trance (or what I think is waking trance) not as intense. Zombified feeling going away. Normalcy and mental clarity returning. Vile rushes up my spine and sensation of skin burning subsiding, too. Strobing / flashing vision going down. It comes and goes, but is better. Pupils still dilated like crazy.
Found someone who used to sell entrainment products but now crusades against them after suffering similar symptoms to mine (though to a lesser degree). He told me not to listen to it anymore, that I would probably have flashbacks for a while, and that the symptoms would ease and eventually go away. His name's Jeremy Greene and his warning page is here:
[ link to www.geocities.com]
This is no joke. This stuff CAN BE dangerous, and I'm SURE that not everyone whose had adverse affects was as stupid as me or was in poor health.
dude...maybe you just has mono.... |
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whateva
User ID: 87692
3/6/2009 4:38 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
You people are totally insane....
Just putting this tread to rest with this update, so everyone knows how the story ended. I'm dropping the subject now.
Glad to hear you're OK. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168386 |
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whateva
User ID: 87692
3/6/2009 4:39 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
You people are totally insane....glads
Just putting this tread to rest with this update, so everyone knows how the story ended. I'm dropping the subject now.
Glad to hear you're OK. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168386 |
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whateva
User ID: 87692
3/6/2009 4:40 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
You people are totally insane....your hanging out with demons, that HATE you.....dummies......
Just putting this tread to rest with this update, so everyone knows how the story ended. I'm dropping the subject now.
Glad to hear you're OK. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168386 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630788
3/8/2009 8:59 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Ok ok I downloaded the stuff with loads of doses and guess which one I did first.....DMT
funny as hell
Will try the peyote or lsd tomorrow...
I wish I found this sooner... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52612 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621621
3/8/2009 9:27 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I-Doser is pretty interesting and damn if it doesn't produce some interesting lingering effects. Sorry you had a bad trip. |
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me
User ID: 162525
3/8/2009 10:24 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I like binaurel beats. They have them on youtube. |
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Mud
User ID: 647100
3/31/2009 4:21 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
Agnes have you considered trying neurofeedback training? It works for epileptics who have similar symptoms to what you seem to be experiencing. |
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LightSeeker
User ID: 651476
4/6/2009 6:32 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I didn't read all of the posts but I did read the pages 1 and 2.
I listened to brainwave changing music myself with no side effects at all. When I downloaded them there was the an ebook about the good sides of it and also a warning stating that pregnant women shoudlnt listen since the music wasn't tested on them aswell as the maximum dose a day which was 1hour and not more.
My opinion is that our brain is regulating brainwave patterns based on the situation and time of day. When we listen to this music/program we forcefully change our brainwave state e.g. mood,feelings,state of mind,concentration. This seems to be a double-edged sword since you overdid it, it seems your brain is having problems in judging and applying the correct brainwave state you are in. There is no bad thing in having fear when faced 2 danger or being sleepy in the middle of the night.
I'm no expert but I suggest you:
1.visit your doctor and explain to him what you did.
2.Pray every day that the side effects disappear
3.Such injury is new 2 any specialist so show some patience
4.Everytime you have these side effects FIGHT with telling your brain what kind of situation you'r in and try 2 find working soultions yourself. |
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Claqra
User ID: 651487
4/6/2009 6:54 PM
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Thanks but you never said if your tried and what you exerinces were, i just bought peyote, i will update you guys if im not dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 239516
Quite safe to use. Personally this is my "chewing tobacco" of choice. And the nice thing is, since it comes from a living plant, it contains the living essence of that plant. Do use the buttons if they are thoroughly dry, and don't scrape anything out. Don't eat them fresh, as you will gross yourself out. Just put a button between cheek and gum, and nibble slowly and swallow until gone. One button can be put on each side of your mouth. No need to smoke pot and safe to use around heavy machinery, if all you are doing is watching from a safe distance. The really nice thing about this kind of experience is you personally can decide when the train is to stop, and when it can keep on going. |
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Minnie
User ID: 664336
4/25/2009 12:47 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I would advise extreme caution if you are considering using binaural technology like Holosync, especially if you suffer any mental illness. Whilst Centerpointe's (Holosync) advertising on line is always very persuasive and full of promises of success, the product is dangerous for people with more severe mental problems such as schizophrenia or bi-polar. Why? Because with Holosync and similar technologies, your brain is artificially stimulated to move to ever slower brain wave frequencies, similar to those attained in deep meditation by experienced meditators. The difference is that you have no control over this process and your mind is not involved, whereas traditional meditation requires an effort and a concentration of the mind. Why would this make a difference? Because your mind will only present to you stressful subconscious material that you can handle as it's prime function is your mental, emotional and physical safety. Steady, traditional meditation is a controlled process. Holosync and other binaural technologies are not. By forcing your brain waves into the frequencies of deep meditation without any control by you and without years of practice for that experience, you can literally open a Pandora's Box of repressed material without the safety of subconscious mind control. That is why so many letters from users reveal some very painful and stressful experiences. Should some of your repressed material be of a serious nature that has been causing severe mental problems you run the very real risk of exacerbating those problems leading to psychosis or worse. |
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The Peaceful Ghost
User ID: 722373
7/10/2009 3:34 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end.
There's nothing wrong with any holosync, hemisync, bi-audio brainwave enhancement.
You can overdo drinking and start vomiting blood.
This doesn't mean we shouldn't drink a glass or two of red wine every few days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 87027
Damn right. Guys, this is screwing you because you cannot remain in one brainwave state for extended periods of time. And to that poor person losing it, I have the solution. You should have studied it before trying it. I am not using I-doser, but I am using other programs on my mp3 player for meditation. This is like some matrix bullshit where in the future drugs are electronically sent to you. It is dangerous if used improperly, but so is a gun. Now, I have studied the brain for my entire life, as well as altered states of consciousness and lucid dreaming. I have a solution to deprogram you if you are interested. WHat happened is you gamma waves have been jacked. I will discourse further if you wish, and I hope you come back to see this. I will be checking back to see. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 721821
7/10/2009 3:35 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 721821
7/10/2009 3:38 AM | |
roadboss
User ID: 736867
7/28/2009 4:08 PM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
agnes, in reply to your problem.i would suggest a session or two with neurofeedback. it will put your brain patterns back to normal levels.one such place is centerforbrain.com. i know quite a few people who has been there. hope this helps out.take care. |
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HockeyKidF12
User ID: 741037
8/3/2009 10:05 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
this dose really fucked me up last night, at first it was nothing and during the dose i really didn't feel anything except for my body heating up. It was very cold in my room but for some reason i was on fire. It was like sitting in a sauna. through like 20 min. of the dose it seemed like everything in my room got darker, and i still didn't really feel anything that would alter my mood. Near the end of the dose, when the noises got faster and higher pitched my breathing uncontrollably got faster and my heart was beating faster. It was like the very first time you get high. You panic! When the dose was over i began to feel a little fucked up and im still a little paranoid. I could hear every little crease in the house and it would scare me. Every light and thing scared me. I dont know if im skitso-franic but also this dose made me have a feeling like someone was lurking around me or stalking me. To this moment i have that feeling. Every little movement i see in my peripherals made me turn my head. I do not recommend this to everyone, especially to people easily scared. It makes your mind pull tricks on you! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 741069
8/3/2009 10:48 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
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User
User ID: 697809
8/3/2009 11:08 AM | | Re: Dangers of Brainwave Entrainment | Quote |
I overdid it with a program called I-Doser, for hours at a time, days on end.
There's nothing wrong with any holosync, hemisync, bi-audio brainwave enhancement.
You can overdo drinking and start vomiting blood.
This doesn't mean we shouldn't drink a glass or two of red wine every few days. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 87027
I've used Holosync for about a year now. I have always followed the directions on use, because I believe the warnings on over-use. Reading this post makes me glad I didn't disregard them!
Although I never went beyond the prescribed usage, while using the first level, I did use the program rigorously and push the usage to the max. Then I had a period of time that I discontinued use and looking back, I can see where the heavy usage was causing problems in my life.
I don't want to get into the "problems" here, because they will only become a topic of debate and I will end up having to justify things. However, I equate using Holosync to using weights to exercise. They both tear things down. And so that muscles or brain matter can rebuild stronger, rest is needed. Over use only inhibits the program.
I personally have received great benefit over time with brain entrainment and I think if used properly it can be helpful. I understand as one poster said, that this is SPAM, however, this can be used a honest feedback for someone looking in to this technology.
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