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Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists

Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

Zionism and Anti-Semitism

We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide.

The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!

Jews are enjoined by their religious laws to be loyal to the country of which they are citizens. Ever since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously loyal to the countries we reside in.

One of the great biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled; verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish morality throughout our history to this very day.

Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine.

They deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by those who, misusing the name of Israel our forefather, have substituted the ideal of chauvinist nationalism for the eternal values of the Torah, the eternal divinely bestowed inheritance of the Jewish people.

It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree.

Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation.

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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Rabbi Avigdor Miller

Excerpt from his book, "Sing, You Righteous":

"Actually, the State of Israel solves nothing. All "problems" remain the same, and new ones are created.

For example:

1) The Arabian lands have been rendered uninhabitable for Jews;

2) constant wars with neighbors must be waged, incurring huge military expenditures and loss of many lives, in addition to constant peril;

3) it has exacerbated Jew-hatred in the nations, due to Arab influence and also to embroilment with the foreign policy of the nations;

4) and the proponents of the State of Israel – attempt to kindle a fire under the Jews in all lands in order to make their position untenable so that they emigrate to augment the population of the new State.

(For example, Ben Gurion's statement in the N.Y. Times 4/22/1963. "Jews are in truth a separate element in the midst of the peoples among whom they live an element that cannot be completely absorbed by any nation. for this reason no nation can calmly tolerate it in its midst")."

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Is there an "ex-Jews against the Talmud" group?

Until there is, Jews will remain a problem to non-Jews whether they are in Israel or not.
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About True Torah Jews Against Zionism

True Torah Jews is a non-profit organization formed by a group of religious Orthodox Jews dedicated to informing the world and the American public and politicians in particular, that the idealogy of Zionism is in total opposition to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

True Torah Jews
Brooklyn, NY 11211

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About True Torah Jews Against Zionism

True Torah Jews is a non-profit organization formed by a group of religious Orthodox Jews dedicated to informing the world and the American public and politicians in particular, that the idealogy of Zionism is in total opposition to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

True Torah Jews
Brooklyn, NY 11211

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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How can a "Jew" reject Judaic Law as represented by the Talmud and still call themselves a Jew?

It's like a Christian rejecting Christ yet still calling themself a Christian.
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About True Torah Jews Against Zionism

True Torah Jews is a non-profit organization formed by a group of religious Orthodox Jews dedicated to informing the world and the American public and politicians in particular, that the idealogy of Zionism is in total opposition to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

True Torah Jews
Brooklyn, NY 11211

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]


How can a "Jew" reject Judaic Law as represented by the Talmud and still call themselves a Jew?

It's like a Christian rejecting Christ yet still calling themself a Christian.
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"For decades renowned Rabbinical leaders and scholars have opposed the creation of a "Jewish State", supporting their opposition with words of the scriptures and of the Torah, as being diametrically opposed to the ideology of Judaism. We have provided many such quotations for the inquiring website visitor who is seeking such information."

For specific quotations, there's a link: [link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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About True Torah Jews Against Zionism

True Torah Jews is a non-profit organization formed by a group of religious Orthodox Jews dedicated to informing the world and the American public and politicians in particular, that the idealogy of Zionism is in total opposition to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

True Torah Jews
Brooklyn, NY 11211

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]


How can a "Jew" reject Judaic Law as represented by the Talmud and still call themselves a Jew?

It's like a Christian rejecting Christ yet still calling themself a Christian.

"For decades renowned Rabbinical leaders and scholars have opposed the creation of a "Jewish State", supporting their opposition with words of the scriptures and of the Torah, as being diametrically opposed to the ideology of Judaism. We have provided many such quotations for the inquiring website visitor who is seeking such information."

For specific quotations, there's a link: [link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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You haven't answered the question.

How can a "Jew" reject Judaic Law as represented by the Talmud and still call themselves a Jew?

It's like a Christian rejecting Christ yet still calling themself a Christian.
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258926, this is still not an answer to your question, but interesting nonetheless:

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Torah True Jews, Inc.
September 21, 2003


Dear Honorable President George W. Bush:


I am writing to you because of your deep and abiding interest in the suffering of the peoples of the Middle East and your desire to finally bring an end to all the bloodshed and violence there. We pray for peace and brotherhood.

However, I would like to respectfully bring to your attention that although you are aware that there are many Jews who support the State of Israel, what you may not have heard about is that there is a silent majority of Jews opposed to Zionism who remain ignored by the media, and who remain steadfast in loyalty to the teachings of our rabbis that the ideology of Zionism is in utter opposition to our religion. For more information there are a number of websites on the Internet that discuss this subject, e.g. www.jewsagainstzionism.com, which we know you will find most interesting as it includes historical documents and photographs relating to the long-time opposition of revered rabbis to Zionism.

Ever since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously loyal to the countries we reside in, and never seek to undertake to establish independent sovereignty in the Holy Land or anywhere throughout the world. One of the great biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled; verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish morality throughout our history to this very day.

The Zionist movement rejects all of the fundamental principles of our Torah and rabbis. Jews do not need a state of their own. The very establishment of a “Jewish” state is a grave violation of Jewish tradition and law.

Therefore they don’t represent the Jewish people in any way whatsoever. They have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people. Therefore, their words, declarations and actions are not in any way representative of the Jewish people. We deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by those who – misusing the name of Israel – have substituted the ideal of nationalism for the teachings of the holy Torah

Therefore, Mr. President, it is of the utmost urgency that the State of Israel should not be referred as a Jewish State, but as the Zionist State. The foundation of its existence is not Judaism, but the Zionist ideology. We are extremely concerned that referring to it as a “Jewish” state endangers the welfare of Jews worldwide by linking Jews and Judaism to the terrible actions of the Zionist State. The Zionist state with its supporters worldwide seeks to take all measures possible, including provoking hatred of Jews through Israeli policies, in order to convince Jews to move from their native countries to the State of Israel!! Indeed, hatred of Jews is the very lifeblood and oxygen of the Zionist movement and their state, which are stand in total opposition to Judaism.

We also feel great pain about the misplaced sympathy of Christian evangelicals for Zionism. If they knew the truth about Zionism they would not support the Zionist movement.

Throughout history when persecution resulted in expulsions, there were always other nations who opened their doors to the Jews, and were blessed by G-d for doing so. We believe that our country would even welcome those Jews who would wish to leave the State of Israel, and bring great blessings onto the United States.

Your good intentions and kind consideration in relation to Jews is greatly appreciated, but we strongly believe that G-d’s blessings upon the United States will grow if there is greater understanding and different policies in relation to this issue of the difference between Judaism and Zionism.

We await the days when all the world will recognize the sovereignty of the Creator, and the words of the prophet Isaiah will yet be fulfilled: "And they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. No nation will lift its sword against any other, nor will they learn warfare anymore."

The silent majority of American Jewry
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"Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine."

These are the chosen ones.

Once the zionists are wiped from the pages of time, peace will come to the region.
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258926, this is still not an answer to your question, but interesting nonetheless:

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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Thanks! hf
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258926, are we even sure that these folks "reject the Talmud"?
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Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews Join Demonstration to Denounce the Zionist State
June 10, 2007

A large delegation of Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews travelled to Washington, D.C. to join other protesters condemning the Zionist occupation of Jerusalem, the Holy Land, and Palestine.

Zionists have occupied Gaza and the West Bank for forty years and Palestine for fifty-nine years in the name of the so-called "State of Israel."

Torah Faithful Jews denounce the creation of a Zionist state as totally contrary to traditional Jewish beliefs and teachings.


Neturei Karta statement:
The 1967 War - An Act Against Judaism

On the occasion of forty long years of the occupation of Jerusalem and fifty nine years of the taking of the entire Palestine, the Jewish communities faithful to the teachings of the Almighty and the Torah, in their respective countries, gather to commemorate this anniversary as a time of sorrow and tragedy.

Anti Zionist Orthodox Jews mourn the deportation, subjugation, and oppression of the Palestinian people.

More at NETUREI KARTA - International Jews United Against Zionism: [link to www.nkusa.org]
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In other words, it certainly seems plausible that a Jew may reject Zionism but not the Talmud, and even vice-versa.
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In other words, it certainly seems plausible that a Jew may reject Zionism but not the Talmud, and even vice-versa.
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Right - Zionism is a political movement - here's a definition from Wikipedia:

Zionism is an international political movement that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.[1] Formally organized in the late 19th century, the movement was successful in establishing the State of Israel in 1948, as the world's first and only modern Jewish State. It continues primarily as support for the state and government of Israel and its continuing status as a homeland for the Jewish people.[2]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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In other words, it certainly seems plausible that a Jew may reject Zionism but not the Talmud, and even vice-versa.
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Zionism is the symptom of the Talmudic disease.
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Unless you eliminate the cause of Zionism, which is the supremacist Talmud, it will continue to manifest in equally diabolical ways.
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And the folks behind the OP's site certainly don't "reject the Talmud":

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]

This page for example includes numerous references to the Talmud that speak against various aspects of Zionism:

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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Here's an older post from Rense.com that's still relevant:


"The rejection of Zionism is the only path to peace."

February 23, 2002

MONSEY, NY -- Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, spokesman for Neturei Karta International, announced this evening that the organization of anti - Zionist Jews will publicly burn the Israeli flag in a series of ceremonies around the world on "Purim" Tuesday, February 26.

"The Zionist experiment has reached its inevitable conclusion. Death tolls mount and no viable solution is in sight. Slowly the Jewish people are awakening to the reality of Zionism, its rejection of Torah views of exile and redemption, combined with its aggressive stance towards Gentiles in general and Palestinians in particular."

The Rabbi explained, "By burning the Israeli flag we are symbolically declaring that the Israeli state, contrary to its absurd claims, is not representative of the Jewish people. In fact, its denial of our faith and its brutalization of the Palestinian people, renders it antithetical to Judaism."

The timing of the flag burning is seen as particularly significant. "Tuesday is Purim, a holiday remembering the victory of faith over barbarism and good over evil, in ancient times. It is appropriate that we repudiate the contemporary heresy and violence of Zionism on this day," Rabbi Weiss added.

"Zionism refuses to accept our status as people in exile. This is metaphysical impudence. It is the task of world Jewry to remain patriotic citizens of the lands of their dispersion and pursue peace with all men. In the Holy Land, this means welcoming Palestinian sovereignty over the land. Accordingly, we will carry the Palestinian flag at the flag burnings."

"The rejection of Zionism is the only path to peace. We hope that many Jews will participate in this international event."

[link to www.rense.com]
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258926, So it the Talmud "good" in this respect or "evil"???
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Unless you eliminate the cause of Zionism, which is the supremacist Talmud, it will continue to manifest in equally diabolical ways.
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Do you have a link or quote that the Talmud justifies, initiates or supports Zionism?
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The only thing the Tal mud justifies is satanism.
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Well this IS interesting now isn't it?

... Clearly there are some passages in the Talmud that just don't seem right to us modern Goys - like the whole double standard of how Jews are allowed to deal with Gentiles vs. other Jews, the allowances for pedophilia (although probably no less common a mindset among other cultures at the time that those passages were written), etc. And yet if it *were* totally evil then certainly Zionism would be openly espoused instead of (apparently) generally cricized.

... Likewise, if the Talmud was such the evil racist book that many here proclaim it to be, then why isn't it followed wholeheartedly by Zionists? On the contrary, the most visible Zionists appear to be basically "atheist" in their outlook (and some claim Satanic in practice).

So it should be obvious that Zionism was not born from the Talmud, however strange that may seem to some folks here..
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Likewise is should be obvious that the Talmud is not totally racist or evil, but is just a product of its times, like most other human writings...
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Maybe instead of getting lost in all this we should just ask ourselves what can be done to fix this mess, instead of dwelling on how it got that way?

One branch of American Judaism (Reformed) seems to be more about that (although "True Torah Jews" may disagree...)
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The only thing the Tal mud justifies is satanism.
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I am very impressed with the way these orthodox Judaism groups promote peace and understanding above and beyond political, national and religious boundaries.

They've shown more courage, determination and integrity than most U.S. presidents, congress and both political parties.

Their statements have the strong ring of truth and honesty; and the truth will prevail.

Unfortunately, the above comment doesn't help us to sincerely and honestly separate the truth from propaganda. Attacking others is self-serving and undermines true discussion; unfortunately, it's used extensively on both sides of this debate...
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We don't really need Jews or the Talmud or anyone else telling us that Zionism is evil (although I'm glad they can see that).

We just need to use our God-given imagination and put ourselves in the shoes of the folks who are being displaced from their lands right now (no, not 2,000 years ago).

Would you want to wake up with a bulldozers knocking down your home?

Try following the Golden Rule of that famous Jew instead of just claiming some divine inheritance...
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OP, I agree. This focus on how evil things are (whether true or only perceived) will never do any good in the end.
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Maybe instead of getting lost in all this we should just ask ourselves what can be done to fix this mess, instead of dwelling on how it got that way?
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One of the main points of this thread is to reveal the hidden agenda of those who perceive "anti-semitism" lurking behind every corner and use blatant propaganda to support and defend aggressive Zionist policy and military actions.

In direct contradiction, the Orthodox Judaism groups mentioned above contend that Zionism, due to it's aggression, violence and imperialism, creates anti-semitism.

Zionist groups use the label, "anti-semite", against anyone who dares criticize or question Israel's actions - as though it were an attack against Judaism; thus deflecting real discussion.

Of course, the U.S. is just as responsible for Israeli actions because we've underwritten them and their military for over $1 trillion over the past several decades.

We can see how strong the Israeli lobby is just by noticing the frequent anti-muslim and pro-Zionist propaganda on GLP alone.

To solve a problem, first it must be defined. Unfortunately, the constant barrage of disinformation and propaganda from militant Zionists is preventing genuine discussion and communication from taking place.
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hi

Both Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 talk about those who say they are Jews and are not but are of the Synagogue of Satan.

The following is an interesting and enlightening read:

[link to www.rense.com]
The 'God' That Serves Elite Jews By Henry Makow PhD 2-18-7
If Communists considered religion "the opium of the masses," why didn't they include Judaism? I asked. Do Christians and Jews worship the same God? Is there an affinity between Communism and Judaism? Perhaps the Jewish elite has a different God? ( [link to www.savethemales.ca]

Who are the real chosen ones? It has nothing to do with race, religion or nationality. The chosen ones are those to love God and their neighbors and who do the works of God.  

This world is a kindergarten to prepare us for the next level. If we are a cancer in this sentient universe, we will be cut off.

Peace grouphug
If we do not live together in peace, we will die together in war.


"Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine."

These are the chosen ones.

Once the zionists are wiped from the pages of time, peace will come to the region.
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"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon.
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Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

Where a Jew Should Do Evil

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young

A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."

Jesus in the Talmud:

Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ

While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.

For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

End quote from [link to www.noahide.com]

[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared on their website at [link to www.noahide.com] on June 20, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].

Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."

Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."

In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).

"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.

"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.

"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.

"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.

Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books

Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.

Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud

Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. On one of his whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to her, crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the prostitute farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: "Just as this gas will never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to heaven."

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."

Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
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Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a synagogue, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the < [link to www.biblebelievers.org.au] Nidre>Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the Talmud teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the < [link to www.biblebelievers.org.au] 23a-23b>Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916. We are going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason.

-ex-Jew Benjamin Freedman, A REAL HERO.

These bigoted Orthodox Jewish supremacists on the other hand, are evil cunts not worthy even of our contempt.

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