Lt Walter Haut's Notarized Affidavit - UFO and aliens at Roswell | |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This should be HUGE NEWS in the mainstream media, however they are unfortunately part of the continuing cover-up. Here at GLP most of us all ready know that aliens are visiting us and so it is old news. Notice how quite the debunkers are here about this story! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This should be HUGE NEWS in the mainstream media, however they are unfortunately part of the continuing cover-up. Here at GLP most of us all ready know that aliens are visiting us and so it is old news. Notice how quite the debunkers are here about this story! Quoting: Truth Seeker 170894Well the thing that caught my attention is that this guy is obviously not a publicity seeker. Also, it's firsthand information....he was there. He was the head of the disinformation effort and now we know the truth. So I'm pretty hard to convince about anything....I've been skeptical about the Roswell story for my whole life. This however makes me much less skeptical. It really is a huge revelation considering the source. |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This should be HUGE NEWS in the mainstream media, however they are unfortunately part of the continuing cover-up. Here at GLP most of us all ready know that aliens are visiting us and so it is old news. Notice how quite the debunkers are here about this story! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258514Well the thing that caught my attention is that this guy is obviously not a publicity seeker. Also, it's firsthand information....he was there. He was the head of the disinformation effort and now we know the truth. So I'm pretty hard to convince about anything....I've been skeptical about the Roswell story for my whole life. This however makes me much less skeptical. It really is a huge revelation considering the source. I was convinced when I saw Jesse Marcel Sr., the base intellegence officer, describe what he saw in a UFO special in the mid eighties. His son JM Junior also saw the unearthly stuff one night when Sr. brought it to the house and spread it on the floor. Col. Philip J. Corso also adds credence to the story in his book "The Day After Roswell". |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This should be HUGE NEWS in the mainstream media, however they are unfortunately part of the continuing cover-up. Here at GLP most of us all ready know that aliens are visiting us and so it is old news. Notice how quite the debunkers are here about this story! Quoting: Truth Seeker 170894Well the thing that caught my attention is that this guy is obviously not a publicity seeker. Also, it's firsthand information....he was there. He was the head of the disinformation effort and now we know the truth. So I'm pretty hard to convince about anything....I've been skeptical about the Roswell story for my whole life. This however makes me much less skeptical. It really is a huge revelation considering the source. I was convinced when I saw Jesse Marcel Sr., the base intellegence officer, describe what he saw in a UFO special in the mid eighties. His son JM Junior also saw the unearthly stuff one night when Sr. brought it to the house and spread it on the floor. Col. Philip J. Corso also adds credence to the story in his book "The Day After Roswell". Yeah I have watched all the Science/Discovery Channel shows about Roswell, and I have an engineering degree...there was always some lingering doubt however for one reason or another. I'm definitely a skeptic. Now however, the only thing lacking is physical evidence, and we may never see that because the governments and religions are concerned about a loss of power and influence if it is revealed that there is proof of extra terrestrial life with the means to get here. This revelation goes a long way to convince me that the Roswell stories are based in fact. |
OP User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This should be HUGE NEWS in the mainstream media, however they are unfortunately part of the continuing cover-up. Here at GLP most of us all ready know that aliens are visiting us and so it is old news. Notice how quite the debunkers are here about this story! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258514Well the thing that caught my attention is that this guy is obviously not a publicity seeker. Also, it's firsthand information....he was there. He was the head of the disinformation effort and now we know the truth. So I'm pretty hard to convince about anything....I've been skeptical about the Roswell story for my whole life. This however makes me much less skeptical. It really is a huge revelation considering the source. I was convinced when I saw Jesse Marcel Sr., the base intellegence officer, describe what he saw in a UFO special in the mid eighties. His son JM Junior also saw the unearthly stuff one night when Sr. brought it to the house and spread it on the floor. Col. Philip J. Corso also adds credence to the story in his book "The Day After Roswell". Yeah I have watched all the Science/Discovery Channel shows about Roswell, and I have an engineering degree...there was always some lingering doubt however for one reason or another. I'm definitely a skeptic. Now however, the only thing lacking is physical evidence, and we may never see that because the governments and religions are concerned about a loss of power and influence if it is revealed that there is proof of extra terrestrial life with the means to get here. This revelation goes a long way to convince me that the Roswell stories are based in fact. I have a masters in mathematics and have determined that the probability of Roswell being a real ET event is about 0.90 considering all the accumulated evidence. There has been disinfo that has unfortunately muddied the waters over the years but this last piece of evidence you have posted has raised the probability even closer to one IMHO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 243964 United States 07/02/2007 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a masters in mathematics and have determined that the probability of Roswell being a real ET event is about 0.90 considering all the accumulated evidence. There has been disinfo that has unfortunately muddied the waters over the years but this last piece of evidence you have posted has raised the probability even closer to one IMHO. Quoting: OP 170894Really? I have a Master's in Bullshit detection, and I have determined to a 98.73% certainty that you are completely full of it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This should be HUGE NEWS in the mainstream media, however they are unfortunately part of the continuing cover-up. Here at GLP most of us all ready know that aliens are visiting us and so it is old news. Notice how quite the debunkers are here about this story! Quoting: OP 170894Well the thing that caught my attention is that this guy is obviously not a publicity seeker. Also, it's firsthand information....he was there. He was the head of the disinformation effort and now we know the truth. So I'm pretty hard to convince about anything....I've been skeptical about the Roswell story for my whole life. This however makes me much less skeptical. It really is a huge revelation considering the source. I was convinced when I saw Jesse Marcel Sr., the base intellegence officer, describe what he saw in a UFO special in the mid eighties. His son JM Junior also saw the unearthly stuff one night when Sr. brought it to the house and spread it on the floor. Col. Philip J. Corso also adds credence to the story in his book "The Day After Roswell". Yeah I have watched all the Science/Discovery Channel shows about Roswell, and I have an engineering degree...there was always some lingering doubt however for one reason or another. I'm definitely a skeptic. Now however, the only thing lacking is physical evidence, and we may never see that because the governments and religions are concerned about a loss of power and influence if it is revealed that there is proof of extra terrestrial life with the means to get here. This revelation goes a long way to convince me that the Roswell stories are based in fact. I have a masters in mathematics and have determined that the probability of Roswell being a real ET event is about 0.90 considering all the accumulated evidence. There has been disinfo that has unfortunately muddied the waters over the years but this last piece of evidence you have posted has raised the probability even closer to one IMHO. I pretty much agree with that....but my original question is...if this is supposed to be a conspiracy forum, you would think this would be the biggest news in years...and yet there is very little attention paid to it relative to it's importance... I'm starting to think that most of the traffic here and other places are like sponsored entities, groups and organizations acting like individuals...at any rate, in my opinion this is possibly one of the biggest news items ever for the UFO researchers....probably as close to absolute proof as anyone is ever going to get since we know we won't see the physical evidence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 244976 United Kingdom 07/02/2007 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it did make one major UK paper, the Daily Mail. The did a two page centre spread on it on Saturday with a lengthy article by Nick Pope. Roswell officer's amazing deathbed admission raises possibility that aliens DID visit [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, it did make one major UK paper, the Daily Mail. The did a two page centre spread on it on Saturday with a lengthy article by Nick Pope. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 244976Roswell officer's amazing deathbed admission raises possibility that aliens DID visit [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] yes that's where I originally learned about it. No major coverage in the US corporate media whatsoever as far as I'm aware. I guess that shouldn't surprise me. I now get all my Paris Hilton news from the US and all my other information from news sources outside the US ! |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those who are the keepers and monitors of the UFO/alien cover-up will never legitimize the subject in a full blown disclosure but are allowing controlled leaks such as this. I believe they fear the masses will be shocked into disclosure by the occupants of the crafts themselves like almost happened in Phoenix AR. This is a huge story but most folks here have been sensitized to such things due to numerous hoaxes being perpetrated and exposed in this forum, e.g. Aussie Bloke. This story would have a larger effect if it was mainstream with emphasis instead of being found on the back pages of some obscure newspaper. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those who are the keepers and monitors of the UFO/alien cover-up will never legitimize the subject in a full blown disclosure but are allowing controlled leaks such as this. I believe they fear the masses will be shocked into disclosure by the occupants of the crafts themselves like almost happened in Phoenix AR. This is a huge story but most folks here have been sensitized to such things due to numerous hoaxes being perpetrated and exposed in this forum, e.g. Aussie Bloke. Quoting: Truth Seeker 170894This story would have a larger effect if it was mainstream with emphasis instead of being found on the back pages of some obscure newspaper. Well, the UK Daily Mail may be obscure for Americans, but it's a huge UK paper....definitely a mainstream read. It's being self censored by the corporate media in the US however. |
BadMatt User ID: 94097 United States 07/02/2007 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Source: [link to roswellproof.homestead.com] AFFIDAVIT: 2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT DATE: December 26, 2002 WITNESS: Chris Xxxxxx NOTARY: Beverlee Morgan (1) My name is Walter G. Haut (2) I was born on June 2, 1922 (3) My address is 1405 W. 7th Street, Roswell, NM 88203 (4) I am retired. (5) In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer. I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town. (6) I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7. I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate. (7) By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell. I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more. (8) On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m. Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC [Counterintelligence Corp] Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard's boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. Dubose were also in attendance. The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell. A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town. Samples of wreckage were passed around the table. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life. Pieces which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion. No one was able to identify the crash debris. (9) One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery. Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated from his bosses at the Pentagon. Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed. I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished. (10) At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters. I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch. (11) By the time the news release hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world. Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col Blanchard suggested that I go home and "hide out." (12) Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84 [AKA Hangar P-3], a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac. Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside. Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg shape. Lighting was poor, but its surface did appear metallic. No windows, portholes, wings, tail section, or landing gear were visible. (13) Also from a distance, I was able to see a couple of bodies under a canvas tarpaulin. Only the heads extended beyond the covering, and I was not able to make out any features. The heads did appear larger than normal and the contour of the canvas suggested the size of a 10 year old child. At a later date in Blanchard's office, he would extend his arm about 4 feet above the floor to indicate the height. (14) I was informed of a temporary morgue set up to accommodate the recovered bodies. (15) I was informed that the wreckage was not "hot" (radioactive). (16) Upon his return from Fort Worth, Major Marcel described to me taking pieces of the wreckage to Gen. Ramey's office and after returning from a map room, finding the remains of a weather balloon and radar kite substituted while he was out of the room. Marcel was very upset over this situation. We would not discuss it again. (17) I would be allowed to make at least one visit to one of the recovery sites during the military cleanup. I would return to the base with some of the wreckage which I would display in my office. (18) I was aware two separate teams would return to each site months later for periodic searches for any remaining evidence. (19) I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space. (20) I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: Walter G. Haut December 26, 2002 Signature witnessed by: Chris Xxxxxxx |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a fellow officer I believe this and He had nothing to gain by lying. I know how the military works and you need wings to fly above their bullshit sometimes. Quoting: monadnockyeah I agree. This guy was a stand up officer, sworn to tow the party line until he died...but he wanted the world to know the truth after his death. He had nothing to gain by this statement. It totally passes the smell test for me and I'm a pretty hard core skeptic. |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a fellow officer I believe this and He had nothing to gain by lying. I know how the military works and you need wings to fly above their bullshit sometimes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258514yeah I agree. This guy was a stand up officer, sworn to tow the party line until he died...but he wanted the world to know the truth after his death. He had nothing to gain by this statement. It totally passes the smell test for me and I'm a pretty hard core skeptic. Notice how the debunkers are NOT touching this thread! The silence is deafening. |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a fellow officer I believe this and He had nothing to gain by lying. I know how the military works and you need wings to fly above their bullshit sometimes. Quoting: Truth Seeker 170894yeah I agree. This guy was a stand up officer, sworn to tow the party line until he died...but he wanted the world to know the truth after his death. He had nothing to gain by this statement. It totally passes the smell test for me and I'm a pretty hard core skeptic. Notice how the debunkers are NOT touching this thread! The silence is deafening. Case in point!- [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a fellow officer I believe this and He had nothing to gain by lying. I know how the military works and you need wings to fly above their bullshit sometimes. Quoting: Truth Seeker 170894yeah I agree. This guy was a stand up officer, sworn to tow the party line until he died...but he wanted the world to know the truth after his death. He had nothing to gain by this statement. It totally passes the smell test for me and I'm a pretty hard core skeptic. Notice how the debunkers are NOT touching this thread! The silence is deafening. If we lived in a Democracy, there would be open debate in the media about this new revelation and we might finally get to the bottom of exactly what happened there and see the evidence Haut is talking about. I've gotten to the point where I think the Government lies about just about everything (the result of being told a lot of things that were proven to be lies). They lie whenever it's convenient...and the corporate media is their unquestioning lap dog. You would think that people truly interested in government conspiracies would be all over this revelation however. It certainly caused me to think differently about Roswell. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 239052 Canada 07/02/2007 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pretty much agree with that....but my original question is...if this is supposed to be a conspiracy forum, you would think this would be the biggest news in years...and yet there is very little attention paid to it relative to it's importance... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258514I'm starting to think that most of the traffic here and other places are like sponsored entities, groups and organizations acting like individuals...at any rate, in my opinion this is possibly one of the biggest news items ever for the UFO researchers....probably as close to absolute proof as anyone is ever going to get since we know we won't see the physical evidence. And nwo you see what scares the "them" most is the fact that almost everyone is reacting with "Yeah, big news. So what? I thought it was real anyway." |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe there are "UFO investigators" out there, i.e. Stanton Friedman et al, who will gloss over this like he glossed over and vilified Col. Corso's disclosure regarding Roswell because keeping the mystery alive is their bread and butter. This story adds to the long list of military and non- military eyewitnesses to the Roswell event of 1947. I believe there is enough evidence to prove in a court of law that something other-worldly crashed in New Mexico 60 years ago. Until the media is filled with THE press conference held by the president disclosing the ET presence there will always be enough plausible deniability to satisfy the sleeping masses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 260466 United States 07/02/2007 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FOXNEWS is now reporting on it; [link to www.foxnews.com] Although I don't give FOXNEWS much credence over their pro-Iraq war, pro-"Al-CIAeda is going to kill us all propaganda", their coverage of this story is showing that the story is breaking in the mainstream media. |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google "Nick Redfern" and Roswell Quoting: Anonymous Coward 150446Don't be a numbnuts. There's no such thing as Aliens you dumb ass cow rapists. Your comment aptly demonstrates your IQ of 27. Thanks for clearing that up. Don't you just love it when some redneck in his trailer sits there at his computer and types something like" there aint no damn aliens" believing that that somehow makes his pronouncement true! Larry the cable guy has too many relatives posting here at GLP me thinks! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 258514 United States 07/02/2007 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google "Nick Redfern" and Roswell Quoting: Truth Seeker 170894Don't be a numbnuts. There's no such thing as Aliens you dumb ass cow rapists. Your comment aptly demonstrates your IQ of 27. Thanks for clearing that up. Don't you just love it when some redneck in his trailer sits there at his computer and types something like" there aint no damn aliens" believing that that somehow makes his pronouncement true! Larry the cable guy has too many relatives posting here at GLP me thinks! hillbillies aside...one of the interesting things about Haut is that he had been interviewed previously...while alive and always stuck to the party line. Now in the affadavit he claims in no uncertain terms that he personally saw the craft and the aliens...that's pretty hard hitting. So the only lingering doubt I could have would be that his notarized affadavit could have somehow been forged...and there are just not enough details publicly available at this point to know if that could have been possible. |
Truth Seeker User ID: 170894 United States 07/02/2007 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real Audio of Dennis discussing the location of Roswell and its surroundings... [link to www.truthseekeratroswell.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 260479 United States 07/02/2007 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FOXNEWS is now reporting on it; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 260466[link to www.foxnews.com] Although I don't give FOXNEWS much credence over their pro-Iraq war, pro-"Al-CIAeda is going to kill us all propaganda", their coverage of this story is showing that the story is breaking in the mainstream media. Don't bash fox news, they always cover conspiracies and alien storys... UFOS and the like... alot more than the other news networks... they also always have breaking news way before the others... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
Emperor Kenton User ID: 255028 United States 07/02/2007 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my mind this is not nearly as shocking as the fact that earth does not really belong to the Milky Way. [link to viewzone.com] I fact humans don't come from...here. |