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Not a Sheople (OP) User ID: 79075 United States 07/04/2007 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not pray to God for anything for yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 261212Pray for for some one else. It works. Preempting free will. Simply wrong from a moral perspective. Who are you to tell me what to do with my life?(metaphorically speaking) "You direct the will upon the mind, and use it in determining what you shall believe, what you shall think, and to what you shall give your attention." |
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Not a Sheople (OP) User ID: 79075 United States 07/04/2007 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prayer does work. Quoting: silver 160240Then perhaps you can explain this [link to whywontgodhealamputees.com] Please try to use a different argument than those already dispelled in the article. "You direct the will upon the mind, and use it in determining what you shall believe, what you shall think, and to what you shall give your attention." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 258514 United States 07/04/2007 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prayer does work. Quoting: Not a SheopleThen perhaps you can explain this [link to whywontgodhealamputees.com] Please try to use a different argument than those already dispelled in the article. the problem with "the believers" is that they operate not on facts or logic, but on "belief" which has been drilled into their brains usually since birth...based on something a cult leader told them was true..."so just believe brother". |
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Passer-by User ID: 261323 Gibraltar 07/04/2007 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When I was young, I used to pray for a bicycle. Quoting: Who CaresThen I realized God didn't work that way. So I stole one and asked him to forgive me." George Carlin Poor George. Devil got him real bad, and used him as his mouth-piece, mixing truth (the state of the world) with lies (about God), in order to deceive people. A clear example of what happens without God's Protection. Prayer helps to protect from sin. Humans, non-spiritual humans, "pray" for human things, for their bodies, for material success, etc. That's not how it works. Prayer (communication with God) is vital to help keep you from sinning, and to receive Guidance from Him. Yanno, human bodies die. No amount of prayer is going to change that. Focus on the real you (the Being part of the human+Being), and other Beings (your brothers and sisters, i.e. everyone), and you will see how it works. "TRUE PRAYER When we pray in the correct way, we are not asking God to do something, God is inspiring us to act in His place to enact His Will on Earth. We are intended to be the emissaries of the Divine on this planet. True prayer is the method, the visualization, that God expects us to use in discerning His Will and implementing it in the physical dimension twenty-four hours every day. His Kingdom come, His Will be done, on Earth, as it is in Heaven. Amen." [link to thewayhomeorfacethefire.net] Peace. |
Passer-by User ID: 261323 Gibraltar 07/04/2007 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then perhaps you can explain this [link to whywontgodhealamputees.com] Quoting: Not a SheoplePlease try to use a different argument than those already dispelled in the article. Humanists (those who has been deceived by Satan into believing they are only human, just like he did with Adam and Eve) have serious trouble comprehending why, obviously. Become your real self (be born again from above), and you will see things in a different light. It's all about the Being. Not the human that will perish. Suffering is good for the soul. If it weren't, God would not allow it. The human's suffering is used as a mould, to shape the soul within. It's that simple. Carry on searching, instead of pronouncing. Satan is deceiving you. Tricky bugger that he is. Love. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 258514 United States 07/04/2007 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then perhaps you can explain this [link to whywontgodhealamputees.com] Quoting: Passer-by 261323Please try to use a different argument than those already dispelled in the article. Humanists (those who has been deceived by Satan into believing they are only human, just like he did with Adam and Eve) have serious trouble comprehending why, obviously. Become your real self (be born again from above), and you will see things in a different light. It's all about the Being. Not the human that will perish. Suffering is good for the soul. If it weren't, God would not allow it. The human's suffering is used as a mould, to shape the soul within. It's that simple. Carry on searching, instead of pronouncing. Satan is deceiving you. Tricky bugger that he is. Love. not to overly complicate things for your simple freaking mind....but there are 72 organized religions on the planet today. That means the followers of 71 are praying to the wrong god. Are you sure you picked the right one? If so, how because everyone thinks they picked the right one. |
COSSACK47 User ID: 257440 United Kingdom 07/04/2007 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A cursory glance at a newspaper should be enough to convince you that god will always let you down [especially if you`re an innocent child or even a "god - fearing" adult]. Personally , the older I get the more convinced I am that if indeed Jesus Christ was "god" , then the crucufixion was quite deserved - as an atonement [to man!] for the god-made misery of the earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 258514 United States 07/04/2007 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A cursory glance at a newspaper should be enough to convince you that god will always let you down [especially if you`re an innocent child or even a "god - fearing" adult]. Quoting: COSSACK47 257440Personally , the older I get the more convinced I am that if indeed Jesus Christ was "god" , then the crucufixion was quite deserved - as an atonement [to man!] for the god-made misery of the earth. yeah I hear what you're saying. It took me a while to begin to question it all...but throughout my whole life, as much bad stuff happened to the god fearers as the heathens.... So if their god is real...he is one sick fucking bastard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 139684 Canada 07/04/2007 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to video.google.com] Quoting: Not a SheopleI don't think it proves there is no god as I think we simply don't understand creation. It does however make a good point about prayer. My opinion is that most prayer attempts to preempt free will (This will require some deep contemplative thought)and thus does not work. true prayer seeks to align us with the reality of God anything out of alignment with God is not going to do very well |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 139684 Canada 07/04/2007 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prayer does work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258514Then perhaps you can explain this [link to whywontgodhealamputees.com] Please try to use a different argument than those already dispelled in the article. the problem with "the believers" is that they operate not on facts or logic, but on "belief" which has been drilled into their brains usually since birth...based on something a cult leader told them was true..."so just believe brother". you can't convince us that prayer has no value in our lives |
Passer-by User ID: 261323 Gibraltar 07/04/2007 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not to overly complicate things for your simple freaking mind....but there are 72 organized religions on the planet today. That means the followers of 71 are praying to the wrong god. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258514Are you sure you picked the right one? If so, how because everyone thinks they picked the right one. Shame you decided to jump onto another train of thought Satan has fed you, instead of stopping, taking stock, and choosing, with your freewill, to pick up your search for the truth again, instead of remaining halted in your tracks by the lie you believe in (that there is no God). An indication of how you are being played with (lied to) is that the voice you are listening to in your mind (Satan's voice) has told you I'm a member of an organised religion. I'm not. Love. |
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féru. User ID: 261032 Mexico 07/04/2007 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 258514 United States 07/04/2007 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i see we have the fundamentalist satanists at glp today Quoting: Anonymous Coward 139684why do they preach their hate here? maybe it's to counter the religious war the Armageddon cheerleaders promote. Praise the holy of holy and all that bullshit. Leave me out of your freaking religious wars. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 94447 United States 07/04/2007 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i see we have the fundamentalist satanists at glp today Quoting: Anonymous Coward 139684why do they preach their hate here? Ya gotta love the Christians, if you don't believe then you're a satanist or you have been deceived by Satan. It's too bad that MOST Christians have had that stuff hammered into their brains since a very young age. Most of the rest had it introduced into their lives during a traumatic event in their life when they were longing for help. Kind of like a cult. Get them when they are weak. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 91876 United States 07/04/2007 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prayer works Quoting: fugggg-it 257467When you truely need it, prayer works. OK we'll just take your word for it. Just because you had a coincidence in your life don't mean it was a response to prayer. Lets see if we can get a worlwide prayer group to get god to regrow a limb on some deserving person. Bet all my money on it not happening...EVER. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6122 United States 07/04/2007 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK we'll just take your word for it. Just because you had a coincidence in your life don't mean it was a response to prayer. Lets see if we can get a worlwide prayer group to get god to regrow a limb on some deserving person. Bet all my money on it not happening...EVER. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 91876What a sad, sorry excuse for an existence you have. |
Kanandaa User ID: 21159 Canada 07/04/2007 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like anything, prayer works when used properly with wisdom and understanding. In fact, it can be said that any words/thoughts/actions used in a manner that denote a desired outcome are a prayer, meaning everyone prays whether they think they do or not. If You are speaking of a desire to the outside world, You are speaking to God since God is within/as that outside world; if You are speaking to Your Self only, You are still speaking to God since God is within/as You: God is All That Is. Move into harmony with Divine Will/purpose and You will find much more ability to consciously affect Your experience as You would pray for it to be affected. In Service To And As Our Highest Light, Love And Law, Thank You God, Much Love And Blessings To All That Is, :D Danny/Kanandaa |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 91876 United States 07/04/2007 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a sad, sorry excuse for an existence you have. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6122Why, because I don't beleive that god, jesus, allah, mohammad, lucifer, satan, or any other non-existant entity is going to help me, do my bidding, answer my prayers, deceive me into believing something, etc. etc. etc... I do know that my decisions control my world and I live with the consequences of those decisions. I don't rely on some entity to save me or change my life. I do it. So no one but me is responsible for the good the bad ond the ugly in my life. Not god, not satan, just me. Try it you might find personal responsibility very satisfying. Nah, not likely. |
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