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THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN CONTINUES - AL-QUEDA LINKED TO OPERATIONS FROM IRAN - FRONT STORY DRUDGE.

 
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Al-Qaeda linked to operations from Iran

By Stephen Fidler in London

Published: July 6 2007 22:04 | Last updated: July 6 2007 22:04

Evidence that Iranian territory is being used as a base by al-Qaeda to help in terrorist operations in Iraq and elsewhere is growing, say western officials.

It is not clear how much the al-Qaeda operation, described by one official as a money and communications hub, is being tolerated or encouraged by the Iranian government, they said.

The group’s operatives, who link the al-Qaeda leadership in Pakistan with their disciples in Iraq, the Levant and North Africa, move with relative freedom in the country, they said.

The officials said the creation of some kind of al-Qaeda hub in Iran appears to be separate from the group of seven senior al-Qaeda figures, including Saad bin Laden, son of the group’s figurehead, that Iran is said to have detained since 2002.

A senior US official said the information had produced different assessments. “The most conservative, cautious intelligence assessment is that [the Iranian authorities] are turning a blind eye. But there are a lot of doubts about that,” he said.

“They are benefiting from the mayhem that AQ is carrying out. They don’t have to deal with al-Qaeda to benefit.”

Yet while Tehran might be content with the pressure al-Qaeda is placing on the US occupation in Iraq, Iran, as a state based on Shia Islam surrounded by mainly Sunni countries, has long been wary of al-Qaeda’s fierce brand of Sunni Islam.

A former Iranian official said Iran feared al-Qaeda and did not want to distract it from Iraq, dismissing any idea that Iran was supplying it with weapons. “Our relationship with al-Qaeda, at an intelligence level, can be said to be successful as long as they are at a distance,” he said.

Analysts say several Sunni extremist groups, some presumed linked to al-Qaeda and from various ethnic groups including Kurds, are in Iran. US-led military action in Iraq has led some to seek refuge over the border.

In the past, Tehran has also been a target of al-Qaeda attacks. A militant Sunni group based in Pakistan and possibly linked to al-Qaeda was suspected of the 1994 bombing of the shrine of the seventh Shia Imam, Reza, in Mashhad, killing 26 people.

Iran has also shown growing concern over Jundullah, a radical Sunni group from the restive south-east area of Balucestan that has carried out violent attacks in recent years.

Three years ago, Pakistani officials said members of al-Qaeda had begun leaving Pakistan’s border region close to Afghanistan and heading for Iraq. Of the routes used, going overland via Iran was the easiest. That traffic might have increased as links between al-Qaeda and its Iraq offshoot intensify.

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I was wondering when this was going to start...
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So it cannot be true and is a smear?

What a good deal for Iran and AQ.
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Oh no they di-in't!
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“They are benefiting from the mayhem that AQ is carrying out. They don’t have to deal with al-Qaeda to benefit.”


 Quoting: FIFTH INSTAR


This is my favorite...

So now you don't have to work with al-qaeda to be working with al-qaeda, you just have to BENIFIT from al-qaeda to be working with al-qaeda.

Sometimes you just have to laugh at the sillyness of it all.
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So it cannot be true and is a smear?

What a good deal for Iran and AQ.
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No I think it's a smear because they produce ZERO evidence, and say things like what I quoted above to justify saying so...

That's just not good enough for me.

I mean if I took everything that the media says at face value, then I would agree with you that it is true, and not just a lame smear, but fortunately I rarely take anything at face value.
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FIFTH:

WE THE PEOPLE don't trust Cheney and Bush, and certain groups of people know it, so the pressure is on. The White House is in trouble, and the pressure is being built up for the USA to attack Iran before Bush's House-of-Cards crumbles. Israel needs this. The NEOCONS need this.

I see another False Flag attack coming -- intended to rally WE THE PEOPLE. I wonder if BushCheney has considered that if there was such an attack, a large group of WE THE PEOPLE would rise up against those whose job it was to defend us?

That makes it sticky, because the people who are pushing for an attack on Iran don't give a damn about the United States of America and what happens to her leaders and her people. They are only interested in destroying Iran.
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Its a weird situation FIFTH, if true the Iranians are playing with fire, AQ are Sunni and hate the Iranian Shia and would turn on them in a New York minute. Look what AQ is doing in Iraq, targeting the Shia. Peace
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Here's the money shot of the article:

"It is not clear how much the al-Qaeda operation, described by one official as a money and communications hub, is being tolerated or encouraged by the Iranian government, they said."


The bold part could be replaced by "We could just be making all this shit up about..."
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FIFTH:

WE THE PEOPLE don't trust Cheney and Bush, and certain groups of people know it, so the pressure is on. The White House is in trouble, and the pressure is being built up for the USA to attack Iran before Bush's House-of-Cards crumbles. Israel needs this. The NEOCONS need this.

I see another False Flag attack coming -- intended to rally WE THE PEOPLE. I wonder if BushCheney has considered that if there was such an attack, a large group of WE THE PEOPLE would rise up against those whose job it was to defend us?

That makes it sticky, because the people who are pushing for an attack on Iran don't give a damn about the United States of America and what happens to her leaders and her people. They are only interested in destroying Iran.
 Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild


Agreed.

And unfortunately the only motive that truly holds water is either it being done 100% for Israel...(likely)...

OR.

We would do it to capture their resources, and THAT would truly be a debacle beyond our reach.

It bothers me that my tax dollars are going to destroy Israel's enemies.

This country that has done terrorism on us before, this county that has been caught spying on us before, this country that tapes us and laughs in our face during our worst hour...this world pariah...is in my mind not legitimate.

I'm sick of watching blood and booty thrown into that cess-pool desert...

How did it ever come to this?
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Its a weird situation FIFTH, if true the Iranians are playing with fire, AQ are Sunni and hate the Iranian Shia and would turn on them in a New York minute. Look what AQ is doing in Iraq, targeting the Shia. Peace
 Quoting: mathetes


That's what I don't get...

Are we expected to flush the fact that Sunni's hate Shia's down the old memory hole here?

When it's conveinent for the media for them to be bitter enemies to each other, then they are, yet when it's convienent for them to be good buddies, then they are...

I see images in my head of Winston Smith throwing old history into the incinerator somewhere, and writing in a new one...

It would be stupid from so many angles for Iran to willingly harbor al-queda, it would go against their own self interests for no good reason...from what I understand Iran can take care of itself just fine without getting into all that.
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and the Chinese see a money tree as a rife arms trade,natrually sales of same are walked over this Old Trade Route,in the end everyone "benifets" with their dirty deeds,in this old game of cat and mouse they have played for centries.

Note though, it did not work in the past nor, will it work going forward,I think the only people to truly benifet would be the u know who,if one calls this benificial.





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