THE TRUTH BEHIND **SOME** HIP HOP - EXPOSING A SATANIC SUB CULTURE - VIDEO THREAD | |
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Rick_the_tennis_bum User ID: 262850 United States 07/07/2007 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMAGE ( [link to i.rollingstone.com] ) Bizzy Bone...I know nothing about.-- ...except he seemed to want to shake down the DJ for cash, for his interview. He also seemed to be on some sort of 'controlled substance.' |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 187406 Sweden 07/07/2007 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there's one genre in music (but this is not music) I reeeally hate then it's Hip-Hop and (C)Rap...rich black (or white) people whining about their problems using the most dirty words/expression available...and also trying to kill each others. :-) A fantastic "culture" indeed! I try to AVOID this "music" as often I can...and I miss the eighties with it's relatively intelligent pop. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 187406 Sweden 07/07/2007 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with the pastor...nothing good is coming from hiphop and (c)rap since they confirm misery and darkness...unbelievable though how rich they can get by selling this junk. (10.000.000 sold CDs in the clip) Not even the electronic genius Jean-Michel Jarre sold that much.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grow a fucking brain and dont generalise a whole culture that you know fuck all about. Or I'll just call you out some more. |
FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 262777 Canada 07/07/2007 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're basing a justification of the WHOLE genre of Hip-Hop music because of ONE rappers demeanor? You're fucked buddy. Why dont you go start spinning records backwards. Welcome to 1984. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262856Hey dude... It's a VIDEO THREAD, and if you would have read what I wrote you would have seen that I plan on expanding it to include a lot of commentary and a lot more video's, so try a little patience and OPEN YOUR FUCKING MIND. You will NEVER grow if you aren't willing to listen to other people with an OPEN MIND. You come out here gunning like you got me pegged already and I haven't even really started the thread yet! Why do you think I'm posting this here? Because I hate hip-hop and I want to destroy it's image? I'm posting it here because I am trying to HELP people, there is a whole culture of people out there that is getting dumbed down and DESTROYED by this music, along with other bad influences, yet they can't even see it... I SEE IT. I see it everyday man, so go away with this shit if you don't have an open mind, I'm just doing my best to show people something they might not have seen before... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K-os, Akon, Classified, Immortal Technique, KRS-One, Russel Simmons, etc etc. Are all positive message rappers. Except for Russel who supports the words "nigga, hoes & bitches" be expelled from every rappers vocab. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262856Grow a fucking brain and dont generalise a whole culture that you know fuck all about. Or I'll just call you out some more. |
Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/07/2007 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hip-Hop is dead man.. the culture as well is all rotten. It's been hijacked just like Bush hijacked Christianity and the GOP with his neo-conservative loons. However underground rap is becoming more alive than ever before. But what hip-hop used to be, it's dead.. forget about it. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
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FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 262777 Canada 07/07/2007 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K-os, Akon, Classified, Immortal Technique, KRS-One, Russel Simmons, etc etc. Are all positive message rappers. Except for Russel who supports the words "nigga, hoes & bitches" be expelled from every rappers vocab. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262856Grow a fucking brain and dont generalise a whole culture that you know fuck all about. Or I'll just call you out some more. Darkness perishes in the light of truth. |
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Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/07/2007 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already know personally that the majority of internet users dislike hip-hop/rap for pretty much idiotic reasons. Those who know what true hip-hop & rap is, are the ones defending it. It was born in NYC, and many that live here know all about it. Middle America knows absolutely nothing, despite all the gangs that are forming over there.. simply for drug money. These people hijacked the hip-hop culture. Plain and simple. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K-os, Akon, Classified, Immortal Technique, KRS-One, Russel Simmons, etc etc. Are all positive message rappers. Except for Russel who supports the words "nigga, hoes & bitches" be expelled from every rappers vocab. Quoting: FIFTH INSTARGrow a fucking brain and dont generalise a whole culture that you know fuck all about. Or I'll just call you out some more. Darkness perishes in the light of truth. And I'm sure your prejudice knows no limit. You tell me to open my mind? I show you 5 examples of inspirational rap music and you completely ignore the post as if you are above listening or giving a chance to the rappers I listed. Grow some fucking nuts bitch. Go download an Immortal Technique mp3. You want one? I'll put a link write here. Infact, let me go grab some lyrics. I'm hijacking this thread. |
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Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/07/2007 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah.... Harlem streets stay flooded in white powder Like those mother fuckers runnin' away from the twin towers Gun shots rock the earth like a meteor shower Bowling For Columbine, fair, giving the media power Innocence devoured like a chicken spot snack box Government cocain cooked into ghetto crack rock Corrupt cops false testimony at your arraignment Check to check, constant struggle to make the payments Working your whole life wondering where the day went The subway stays pakced like a multi-cultural slave ship It's rush hour, 2:30 to 8, non stoppin' And people coming home after corporate share croppin And fuck flossin, mothers are trying to feed children But gentrification is kicking them out of their building A generation of babies born without health care Families homeless, thrown the fuck off of the welfare The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ, LEARN. STFU. "Speak Your Mind" [Intro] You have to speak the truth You have to speak your mind [Verse 1] Every time I speak my mind I'm lyrically critical The pinnacle of being revolutionarily pivotal Beyond anything ever studied thats metaphysical Man fuck a minority, I'm not politically minimal But obviously terminologies that are statistical Are manufactured to be unequivocally subliminal Transmitted by monopolized media visuals So I riddle hypocritically pitiful criminals Habitually utilizing typical rituals With false pretense in attempts to be spiritual TO individuals who believe in biblical miracles Instead of themselves, because they're not thinking original And the color of their skin makes them feel invisible Like microscopic miscarriages lynched wit the umbilical Only a fuckin imbecile would think their uncorrectable Cause your susceptible to becoming more than a spectacle Remember that your flesh your blood and you body are dissectable Ill beat you until your vegetable And wake up in a hospital covered in poisonous chemicals In a fetal position wit your face sewn to your testicles Thinkin that you were kidnapped by extraterrestrials You got heart? I'm the blood that pumps in your ventricles Technique, I'm like ya soul nigga.. indispensable Wit no respect for those that cower at the hour of revolution Cause the government owes my people restitution Instead of sedatives like cocaine and prostitution Conclusion is that you'll have to violently silence me Cause I raid the airwaves of cutthroat piracy In school my teachers blinded me But now I can see I'm mentally and revolutionarily free Broadening Horizons about what my people could be If we wasn't set up to get shot locked or OD You see families bleed because of corporate greed And monopolizing weed is virtually impossible So it wont be legalized and thats another obstacle But I'm still rollin up pocket fulls of tropical The governments involved directly so its unstoppable Like a nuclear rocket full of biochemical toxins that invade the ecological Improbable that the average intellect could understand So I encrypted this into hip hop thats in high demand and spread it through the ghetto of every city like contraband Stomp a man of any complexion with a devilish nature Cause I'm tryin to save the earth, but your just next in line to rape her |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Freedom Of Speech" Freedom of speech, motherfucker Okay, something for the kids (hahaha) [Pinocchio] I got no strings to hold be down To make me fret or make me frown I had strings, but now I'm free I got no strings on me [Verse 1] Step into the club smoothly with a L in my hand Bitches know that I'm a freak like the elephant man Intelligent plans Fuck a record deal, I want development land With my benevolent clan And that's the reason that I only trust my fam 40,000 records sold, 400 grand Fuck a middle man, I won't pay anyone else I'll bootleg it and sell it to the streets my self I'd rather be that than signed and stuck on a shelf And because of this executives try to diss me Racism frozen in time like Walt Disney And now they say they wanna get me signed to the majors If I switch up my politics and change my behavior Try to tell me what to rhyme about over the beat Bitch niggas that never spent a day in the street But I repeat that nobody can hold my reigns I put the truth on tracks nigga, simple and plain [Pinocchio] I got no strings, so I have fun I'm not tied up when we need one They've got strings but you can see There are no strings on me! [Verse 2] I guess to America I'm a disaster A slave that was destined to own his masters Independent in every single sense of the word I say what I want, you fuckin little sensitive herb This is America, I thought we had freedom of speech But now you want try to control the way that I speak And O'Reilly you think that you a patriot? You ain't nothing but a motherfuckin racist bitch Fulla hatred, pressin a button trying to inject me But I ain't got no motherfuckin deal with Pepsi No corporate sponser telling me what to do Asking me to tone it down during the interview Tryin' to minimize the issue, but I'm keeping it large I love the place that I live, but I hate the people in charge Speakin is hard when you got strings attached So I'm a say it for you 'cause I ain't got none o' that And if you didn't understand what I spit at your brain Aiyyo son, let this little nigga explan: [Pinocchio] I got no strings to hold be down To make me fret or make me frown I had strings, but now I'm free I got no strings on me Come on son, y'all niggas know the way I do Immortal Technique, got com (?) live for you And I know sometimes it be making you nervous The way I snatch puppet rappers that belong in a circus You motherfuckers just can't compare Looking for a fan base that's no longer there I know that you're scared, and you're hidin' up in the cut But this is freedom of speech nigga, tell 'em what's up Word nigga, fuck John Ashcroft! Nigga, fuck Fox News! Fuck those snake-ass bitches Tryin to manipulate your opinion, tellin you what to think Word the fuck up, like "we invaded niggas 'cause we want to free them" You racist motha fucka, you don't give a shit about those people You can suck my dick!! (hahahaha) Another rum and coke at the bar, nigga Its my day off, word up Fuck, for the kids, (ha) for the kids (hahaha) Beat Bandits |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Positive Balance" (feat. Big Zoo) [Intro] Big Zoo, uh Technique, uh Positive balances, uh, uh [Verse 1 - Big Zoo] Pound for pound I'm the most positive when I bust mine The Zoo adds on like a plus sign Addition, that's the key in the ignition With no pause, I propel to pole position (Vroom!) Ahead of the pack, light years ahead of the wack I give a fiend a Good Book, instead of the crack That's the gold mine, negativity can't hold mine The black bear's headed for the gold mine (look out, look out) And then I'm positive as Showtime I make negative MC's switch styles in no time They change teams, rhyme about kings and queens Instead of how they sellin' work to fiends Then I, switch thugs into soldiers Those that have given up on God to praise J Hova (Damn!) The rap Ice Age is over And positivity protects the Z boulder boulder [Chorus - Immortal Technique w/ Big Zoo ad-libs] Yeah, you know how it goes, positivity, yeah My opinion is solid ground but your a common hater Splitting and dividing on numbers like a denominator Third-eye navigator movements are necessary Everything you see in videos is secondary You need positivity like you need respect in jail Because without balance you'll be making negative record sales Neg-neg-negative record sales, ziga-zam, Technique, like this [Verse 2 - Immortal Technique] I jerk off inside books and give life to words Leaving concepts stuck together you probably never heard (what?) I love when people think I'm psychologically disturbed Cause it means I overloaded their neurological nerves Rappers try to serve me with disgusting incompetence But I keep it positive with ultimate dominance Meditating with Native Americans close to Providence I speak to the spirits of ancestors at pow-wows But rumor has it that you getting raped like Lil' Bow Wow Now listen industry motherfuckers, don't get offended Remember, that I'll bring an end to your pretender agenda And render contenders dismembered, bend the fabric of time (what? what?) And put your soul in a blender You living a lie like thinking Jesus was born in December Instead of catering to labels, something gotta give I'll rip the electrons out your body and make you positive I seen a lot of kids come and go with marketing gimmicks Because without balance, you don't last more than a minute This ain't a game, I'll beat the shit out you at the line of scrimmage I rock shows in the ghetto, nigga you stuck in the village I wanted to spit on the radio since I was eleven But I can't afford the pay-ola for Hot 97's So I make paper underground, and I'm soon to blow Moving tapes like Biggie's ghost at Bad Boy studios [Biggie - Hypnotize sample] |
FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 262777 Canada 07/07/2007 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K-os, Akon, Classified, Immortal Technique, KRS-One, Russel Simmons, etc etc. Are all positive message rappers. Except for Russel who supports the words "nigga, hoes & bitches" be expelled from every rappers vocab. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262856Grow a fucking brain and dont generalise a whole culture that you know fuck all about. Or I'll just call you out some more. Darkness perishes in the light of truth. And I'm sure your prejudice knows no limit. You tell me to open my mind? I show you 5 examples of inspirational rap music and you completely ignore the post as if you are above listening or giving a chance to the rappers I listed. Grow some fucking nuts bitch. Go download an Immortal Technique mp3. You want one? I'll put a link write here. Infact, let me go grab some lyrics. I'm hijacking this thread. You're funny man... I happen to be a big fan of Immortal Technique...I love what their doing. HOWEVER. There is some stuff even there...the man's no fucking saint, talks like a fool and a hot head...but I STILL promote the music, because the message is better to hear then not to hear, but I sure as hell wish that we could find a better rep for the message... You have no idea what I'm about FOOL... Step off and relax a little. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "One (Remix)" (feat. Akir) [Intro] [Akir:] Yo tech, it's the last call baby it's good [Immortal Technique:] Yeah, you know a remix just feels right dog? [Akir:] Before we get outta here, you gotta drop one last gem on them Knahmsayin? [Immortal Technique:] No question, it's like the elders told me No one person can do anything, but everyone can do something So we gotta rep, for all the niggaz that ain't here right now [Akir:] The outro tip, the One Remix, yo [Akir] One Enterprises, comprises the artist and the sound The pen and paper plays my savior while I'm getting down Pray for my nieghbors as a favor for holding me down Slave for my papers as I savor the way that it pounds It's underground, but the blatent vibrations widely found Facing the nation complacent radio stations now Stop hesitaing and contemplating the way we paitient Start motivating and get them playin the shit we sayin Ain't no delayin in this war that we gettin slayed in Cause times a waistin while we stand adjacent to abrasions They fouls are more than flagrant And so I see the prisons cages while I pound the pavement Looking for payment saying fuck enslavement Usin the tools of old ancients Announcing my engagment to this music that we making Ain't no faking on tracks, and we ain't never come wack (never!) Immortal Technique and Akir y'all niggaz fear us that's a wrap It's like [Hook] One love One music One people One movement One heart One spark One, One, One, One One gift One lift One stance One shift One way One day One, One, One, One, One [Immortal Technqique] Immortal Technique in the trenches with my nigga Akir Our family surived the genocides so we can be here And now we enterprise the aftermath, one in the same Living the revolution 'till we catch one in the brain And even then my spirit will return in heavenly form And wipe the chess board clean, of my enemies pawns The red don communist threat, burried and gone So they invented a war, the goverment can carry on It makes me wonder if the word of god is lost in the man This is for the children of Iraq, lost in the sand This is for the illest emcees that'll never be known And this is for all the soliders that'll never come home I wrote this for Momia, stuck in a beast For people who, march in the streets, and struggle for peace For hood niggaz, born rugged, never rocking Versace Eddie Ramierez's cousin George, and my old friend Sashi Chris from the block, and all my niggaz stuck in a cell Paul Wolfowitz, motherfucker I'll see you in hell My destiny is to show the world, that the music is real Go back in time and play this shit, for the slaves in the field And for my children in the future, waiting to breathe People slowly dying hanging on, waiting to leave Believe when I'm gone, and this album's on a library shelf I'll be one with god and one with you and everything else [Hook] [Immotal Technique talking] Yeah.. Revolutionary Volume 2 has been brought to you By the type of motherfuckers who ain't scared of shit And if you playing this album, and I'm no longer here And sometime far away from when I recorded this Remember that history Isn't the way the corperate controlled media made it look like Read between the lines and free your mind Revolution is the birth of equality And the anti-thesis to oppression But this is only built for real motherfuckers So when I'm gone, don't let nobody I never got along with Try to make songs kissing my ass, recycling my beats or my vocals The shit is real over here man Thank you for listening, and thank you for supporting independent Hip Hop The heart and soul of our culture Keeping the truth alive Goodnight my people.. goodnight.. |
Untitled User ID: 262863 United States 07/07/2007 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think all of hip hop went to the dark side... And it's not hip hops fault for people buying it and gearing their lives to it.. It's very simple and it has been going on from the start... If you grow up and see your dad working in a factory coming home to sleepy to play with you and just getting by. Then you see a HIP HOP guy on TV with gold and women and at the club with his PEEPS... If your young you'll fall for the trap... In the US they make the adults work so mucht hat we don't have time to bring up the NEW people.... Free will..... But what if your told so many lies that you don't even know how to use your free will... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 262856 Canada 07/07/2007 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K-os, Akon, Classified, Immortal Technique, KRS-One, Russel Simmons, etc etc. Are all positive message rappers. Except for Russel who supports the words "nigga, hoes & bitches" be expelled from every rappers vocab. Quoting: FIFTH INSTARGrow a fucking brain and dont generalise a whole culture that you know fuck all about. Or I'll just call you out some more. Darkness perishes in the light of truth. And I'm sure your prejudice knows no limit. You tell me to open my mind? I show you 5 examples of inspirational rap music and you completely ignore the post as if you are above listening or giving a chance to the rappers I listed. Grow some fucking nuts bitch. Go download an Immortal Technique mp3. You want one? I'll put a link write here. Infact, let me go grab some lyrics. I'm hijacking this thread. You're funny man... I happen to be a big fan of Immortal Technique...I love what their doing. HOWEVER. There is some stuff even there...the man's no fucking saint, talks like a fool and a hot head...but I STILL promote the music, because the message is better to hear then not to hear, but I sure as hell wish that we could find a better rep for the message... You have no idea what I'm about FOOL... Step off and relax a little. there is no media that will support views/ideas like rap music can. im sure you're not down with chamillionaire, necro, or t3ch n1n3. Why? because the message supports empowering black pverty-stricken people. Or people in jail. I really do not see your agenda and I'm afraid you are pushing your agenda on people who have no other outlet. Likewise, I shall push the pro positive rap agenda in this thread. thanks. |
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FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 262777 Canada 07/07/2007 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really do not see your agenda and I'm afraid you are pushing your agenda on people who have no other outlet. Likewise, I shall push the pro positive rap agenda in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262856thanks. Do what you need to do man, but do it respectfully, please don't spam me out, hear me out... You DON'T know me... Trust me. But my problem, even with Technique, although I support it, is the fucking mindless ghetto culture bullshit, I worked to hard on my education to support that shit anymore. There is NO future for us until we grow up and start educating ourselves and calming the hell down, this "poppin' a cap in yo ass nigga" shit just aint good enough anymore, and Immortal Technique has just as much of that shit as he does of the truth stuff. Peace. |