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Compiling Zionist Lies & Answering Them

 
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Yeah but what can all you Jew hating morons do about it...

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The problem with this post IS that it is too long for the average tv-watcher with a short attention span and lack of critical thinking capabailities.

Their current mind state is conditioned by that which is on tv, and since very little if any of the information contained in this post is ever on tv, those you intend to reach are not likely to receive it unfortunately.

At that point, you have the current batch of posters who discredit this information based only on it's length and not it's substance.

Another group will discard the information based solely on the idea that it is against their tv conditioned personalities. This group will not provide information to argue against the information posted, but will instead attempt to insult the original poster.

I speak only on the idea of information transfer between the poster and the intended audience, unbiased as to what is contained.

How do I feel about this? It's not all right, and it's not all wrong. That's reality.

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19.47™ belongs to another group of tv conditioned personalities who equate jews with christians, despite the jewish people helping to murder their savior.

Thanks for the picture book, 19.47™! Now, after 400 years God punished those who enslaved his people! Why did he wait so long if that were the case? Then he proclaims that land for the jews. Does this mean that black people in America will soon get to own America? I'm sure you'll have many people upset over that idea, and probably yourself included.

By the way, I don't hate jews. I don't hate anyone, because hate is a sickness. The truth is people are people around the world, and that hasn't changed since man first walked on this earth. Half animal, half God are we all. Know what I mean?

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Yeah but what can all you Jew hating morons do about it...

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You know that its all true, but you still support the Zionists and insult us?

Amazing
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Tell me about Jordan, Archie
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Tell me about Jordan, Archie
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Jordan is the next nation East of Israel.

Before the 1967 Israeli Sneak Attack the West Bank was part of the nation of Jordan. The people were Jordanian citizens. Now they are Palestinians, citizens of no nation subject to Israeli occupational military law.

I suspect you wanted to hear something else, but did you really expect it?

Instead of open ended leading questions why don't you start with your conclusions and a supporting link if applicable.
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Is it stolen?

Is it illegitimate?

Who was it created for?
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[link to www.qumsiyeh.org]


Lies and Truths


(this material is also linked with other information at [link to www.anis-online.de]

"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley

Compiling Zionist lies and distortions is by necessity a work in progress. It obviously can be rather lengthy since the lies and mendacity of those who either participated in or still participate in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine goes back for 100 years. I listed below common lies and a link to debunk them as a beginning (to prompt more). Please send me your contributions/additions whether in other lies not mentioned here or in further quotes and data on the listed lies. Email contributions to qumsi001@hotmail.com. Suggested use for the data as it accumulates is a handy place for finding info for sending to chat rooms, listserves, editors, politicians and others who could benefit from knowing the factual response to the myths. For an example, to the extent of lies used by Zionists see this video and then read the articles and data below that debunks these lies.

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz (7/15/01) reported that: "... giving his audience (Likud leaders) a bit of advice on how to deal with foreign interviewers (Bejamin Netanyahu said): 'Always, irrespective of whether you're right or not, you must always present your side as right.' "( [link to www.haaretzdaily.com] We are all familiar with the incredible PR repeated ad nauseum about Israel. From "security" to "terrorism" to "wanting peace", we are inundated in corporate media with these images that are divorced from reality. I plan to start collecting glimpses of these proven lies with glimpses of reality. Send me more to build this webpage; email your contribution to qumsi001@hotmail.com. As Nathan Chofshi wrote in the Jewish Newsletter: "We came and turned the native Arabs into tragic refugees. And still we have to slander and malign them, to besmirch their name. Instead of being deeply ashamed of what we did and trying to undo some of the evil we committed...we justify our terrible acts and even attempt to glorify them."(New York, 9 February 1959, cited in Erskine Childers, 'The Other Exodus' in Spectator, London, 12 May 1961)

# Palestine was a land without a people for a people without a land
- [link to www.palestineremembered.com]
- Zionism at 100: The Myth of Palestine as "A Land Without People" By Allan C. Brownfeld [link to www.wrmea.com]
- Palestine photos of the 1930s [link to www.snunit.k12.il]

# Israel made the desert bloom/Palestine was destitute
- [link to www.palestineremembered.com]
- [link to www.mediamonitors.net]

# Innocent Jews wanting to "return home" were rejected from the start by local Arabs for no good reason
- Ahad Ha-Am (Asher Ginsberg) wrote the following in 1891: "In all things it is our custom to learn nothing from the past for the future. There is certainly one thing we could have learned from our past and present history: how careful we must be not to arouse the anger of other people against ourselves by reprehensible conduct. How much more, then, should we be careful, in our conduct toward a foreign people among whom we live once again, to walk together in love and respect, and needless to say in justice and righteousness. And what do our brethren in Eretz Israel do? Quite the opposite! They were slaves in their land of exile, and they suddenly find themselves with unlimited freedom, the kind of wild freedom to be found only in a country like Turkey. This sudden change has engendered in them an impulse to despotism, as always happens when 'a slave becomes a king,' (Proverbs 30:22) and behold they walk with the Arabs in hostility and cruelty, unjustly encroaching on them, shamefully beating them for no good reason, and even bragging about what they do, and there is no one to stand in the breach and call a halt to this dangerous and despicable impulse. To be sure our people are correct in saying that the Arab respects only those who demonstrate strength and courage, but this is relevant only when he feels that his rival is acting justly; it is not the case if there is reason to think his rival's actions are oppressive and unjust. Then, even if he restrains himself and remains silent forever, the rage will remain in his heart and he is unrivaled in 'taking vengeance and bearing a grudge.' (Leviticus 19:18)" "Emet Me-Eretz Yisrael" (Truth from the Land of Israel), 29 May 1891, 21 Iyyar 5651 Translated by Alan Dowty.

# Ben Gurion (who became Israel's first Prime Minister) and Zionist leadership before 1948 war had no intention to drive the native Palestinians out.
As early as 1917 (when Palestine was 96% Christian/Muslim and 3% Jewish), Ben Gurion stated "Within then the next twenty years, we must have a Jewish majority in Palestine." (Shabtai Teveth, p. 43). In 1936 he stated that the future Israel must "become a force, and the Arabs respect force..these days it is not right but might which prevails. It is more important to have force than justice on one's side" (Shabtai Teveth, p. 191). In 1937 "The compulsory transfer of the Palestinian Arabs from the valleys of the proposed Jewish state could give us something which we never had...MORE than a state, government and sovereignty-this is national consolidation in a free homeland." (Righteous Victims, p. 142). in 1938, he wrote "With compulsory transfer we would have vast areas .... I support compulsory population transfer. I do not see anything immoral in it. But compulsory transfer could only be carried out by England .... Had its implementation been dependent merely on our proposal I would have proposed; but this would be dangerous to propose when the British government has disassociated itself from compulsory transfer. .... But this question should not be removed from the agenda because it is central question. There are two issues here : 1) sovereignty and 2) the removal of a certain number of Arabs, and we must insist on both of them." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, 117). In Feb 1948 "The war will GIVE us the land. The concept of 'ours' and 'not ours' are ONLY CONCEPTS for peacetime, and during war they lose all their meaning." (Benny Morris, p. 170 & Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 180). And in early May 1948, Ben-Gurion approved establishing the "Transfer Committee" to oversee "the cleaning up nikui in Hebrew of the Palestinian Arab settlements, cultivation of Arab fields and their settlement by Jews, and the creation of labor battalion to carry out this work." (Benny Morris, p. 137). Yitzhak Rabin wrote in his diary soon after Lydda's and Ramla's occupation on 10th-11th of July 1948: "After attacking Lydda later called Lod and then Ramla, .... What would they do with the 50,000 civilians living in the two cities ... What is to be done with the population?, waving his hand in a gesture which said: Drive them out!. 'Driving out' is a term with a harsh ring, .... Psychologically, this was on of the most difficult actions we undertook". (Soldier Of Peace, p. 140-141 & Benny Morris, p. 207) .David Ben Gurion also recognized that "The (upcoming) war will give us the land. The concept of 'ours' and 'not ours' are only concepts for peacetime, and during war they lose all their meaning". In his diaries he said regarding Palestinian refugees “We must do everything to ensure they never do return” and to the Sunday Times “The old will die and the young will forget”. Under Ben Gurion's direction, Transfer Committee was officially set up to effect ethnic cleansing. I don't understand your optimism. "Why should the Arabs make Peace? If I was an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural; we have taken their country." Ben Gurion in 1956 Quoted by Nahum Goldman, former President of World Zionist Congress, in "The Jewish Paradox" Weidenfeld and Nicholson, 1978, p99.

# Palestinians want/ed to drive Jews and Israel into the sea
[link to www.palestineremembered.com]

# Tiny Israel fended off large Arab armies in 1948
- [link to www.palestineremembered.com]

# Land was purchased, Palestinians were not ethnically cleansed
- See the chapter on refugees in my book [link to www.qumsiyeh.org] which analysis all aspects of this including myths about origins of the refugee catastrophe
- Simha Flapan, the Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities. New York: 1987, p. 223, citing Record of the Knesset, vol. 1, 1949, session 43
- Michael Palumbo, The Palestinian Catastrophe: The 1948 Expulsion of a People from their Homeland. London/Boston: 1987, p. 145.
- See also "How refugee land ended up as Jewish National Fund lands" (and it is not "abandoned" it was confiscated illegally and refugees are being prevented from returning to their lands by an illegal and racist apartheid system).
- With all due respect for the 'blue box' by Meron Benvenisty in Haaretz [link to www.haaretz.com]
Hebrew: [link to www.haaretz.co.il]
- Updated fact sheets on the continuing silent transfer of Palestinians (PDF files)
- [link to www.epalestine.com]
- [link to www.epalestine.com]
- Continuing ethnic cleansing of Palestine (Video) [link to www.youtube.com]
- Case study: a palestinian village under threat of ethnic cleansing [link to www.poica.org]
- Plans for demolition of 42,000 homes of Israel's Palestinians Bedouins [link to www.albawaba.com]
- THE MYTH that the Arab refugees fled because the Arab radios urged them to do so was analyzed by Erskine B. Childers in the London Spectator May 12, 1961. An examination of British and US radio monitoring records turned up no such appeals; on the contrary there were appeals and "even orders to the civilians of Palestine, to stay put...

# There was an Exchange of population, Jews came from Arab Countries to Israel in exchange Arabs left Israel
(see for example an articulation of this by an AIPAC introduced bill in Congress that demands that ""any explicit reference to the required resolution of the Palestinian refugee issue is matched by a similar explicit reference to the resolution of the issue of Jewish refugees from Arab countries." ( [link to www.standwithus.com]
- See above

# Israel respects holy sites of other religions
- [link to www.palestineremembered.com]

# Jerusalem "reunification" let people be treated equal regardless of religion/variant: Israel is not judaicizing Jerusalem/Freedom of religion
Former Military Jerusalem Governor confirms: Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians Began Right After the Occupation
Arnon Regular, Kol Ha'ir Weekly Magazine, July 26, 2001, Western Jerusalem

# The US is an "honest broker"
see Book by Naseer Aruri: Dishonest Broker for history of us involvement and the US vetoed countless UN security council resolutions
"Israel's dependence on the United States is far Greater than suggested by the sum of $3 billion. Israel's physical existence depends on the Americans in both military and political terms. Without the US, we would not be equipped with the latest fighter planes and all other advanced weapons. Without the American veto, we would long have been expelled from every international organization not to speak of the UN, which would have imposed sanctions on us that would have paralysed Israel's International trade, since we cannot exist without importing raw materials. For the same reason, it is wrong to divide the American money up into military aid of $1.8 billion and civilian aid of $1.2 billion. What we are getting is really unmarked dollar bills.." Nehemia Stressler, Haaretz, May 12, 1989

# Islam is intent on taking over the world
A good summary of this Zionist lie is in the book "Islamic Imperialism" by Efraim Karsh (2007, Yale University Press, New Haven and London) of which thousands were printed and distributed free to clergy and opinion makers around the US (the Zionist group cryptically named "Institute on Religion and Democracy", Washington, D.C. is distributing it free). Muslims have been victimized by colonial powers for hundreds of years and have no coherent political or military power. Most of the countries with Muslim majority are ruled by puppets of the US. US forces are in over 140 countries (at least two dozen Muslim majority). A lot of the fundamentalist group that are now used as evidence of this pan-ISlamic desire to take on the world were created or supported by the West. Here are just a few examples of groups that were reliant on Western support
Taliban and Jihadis in Afghanistan
Extremist Sunni groups in Lebanon
see [link to electronicintifada.net]
and [link to rawstory.com]

# "Israel's centraity in Jewish life" manifest by the creed developed and advocated by Zionists "Am Yisrael Chai" meaning the People of Israel (=the Jews) live.
- For this deep psychological pathos that puts Jews above any other humans, see the following discussions by thoughtful people who come from Jewish backgrounds
Marc Ellis, Out of the Ashes
- also see [link to www.serendipity.li]
- and Response to Rosenfeld
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Looks who's back, little Archie, man I feel so sorry your poor little soul. Hate and more hate that is your message. Man you are such loser!!!
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Is it stolen?

Is it illegitimate?

Who was it created for?
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Is Jordan stolen? No.

The Gov has some degree of legitimacy, but many do not accept the Monarchy which was installed by the Brits.

It was created for the people who live there.

Why not just get to your point? I know where you are going, and you know where you are going.

But you cannot get there from here with me answering the questions because I'm not going to promote the Zionist lies and half truths.
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What countries are stolen and illegitimate?
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What countries are stolen and illegitimate?
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I don't know that any truly are, but there certainly are territories that have been stolen.

Like how Israel Stole the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights and Shebba Farms in the 1967 Sneak Attack.

Now, if they had annexed it wouldn't be theft. Then everyone would have equal rights and it would be a single nation.

But Israel is a racist state. They don't want the Arabs, but they do want their land. Thus the repression in hopes that they will pack up and leave. Then they would annex.
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What countries are stolen and illegitimate?


I don't know that any truly are, but there certainly are territories that have been stolen.

Like how Israel Stole ...
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Hmm... really?

Anybody else?
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What countries are stolen and illegitimate?


I don't know that any truly are, but there certainly are territories that have been stolen.

Like how Israel Stole ...
Hmm... really?

Anybody else?
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Not that I can think of, other than Iraq and Afghanistan. Why don't you tell me. Where else in the world?
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Looks who's back, little Archie, man I feel so sorry your poor little soul. Hate and more hate that is your message. Man you are such loser!!!
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I read through it all. Not one word is hate.
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What countries are stolen and illegitimate?


I don't know that any truly are, but there certainly are territories that have been stolen.

Like how Israel Stole ...
Hmm... really?

Anybody else?


Not that I can think of, other than Iraq and Afghanistan. Why don't you tell me. Where else in the world?
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Iraq and Afghanistan?
Sure, couple times over.
How about Pakistan and Iran?
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What countries are stolen and illegitimate?


I don't know that any truly are, but there certainly are territories that have been stolen.

Like how Israel Stole ...
Hmm... really?

Anybody else?


Not that I can think of, other than Iraq and Afghanistan. Why don't you tell me. Where else in the world?

Iraq and Afghanistan?
Sure, couple times over.
How about Pakistan and Iran?
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I was not aware that they had invaded and occupied territory where they deny the people Equal Rights.

Pakistan does have a land dispute with India, but the people in the Paki side of Kashmir are citizens with Equal Rights and the last thing they want is to become part of India.

I fail to see your point.
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Yeah but what can all you Jew hating morons do about it...

[link to www.chick.com]


You know that its all true, but you still support the Zionists and insult us?

Amazing
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Just FYI, I don't see 19.47 admitting it's all true, more like deciding not to argue and laughing at your persistence.

Truth is a matter of perspective. The Zionist have stolen land and persecuted the Palestinians- Your Perspective.


The UN had the right to redistribute the land once Britain gave them control. –The UN Perspective.

Israel will give back land for peace, but peace must come first. –The Israel Perspective.

The Palestinians remain a belligerent group of refugees, who Israel (out of more kindness than I have) do their best to keep some semblance of peace. -My Perspective


Sad for the Palestinians, that Arab countries won’t band together and help in their relocation. (Mass-ethnic-cleansing if you will) Those poor souls are unfortunate pawns in an Arab struggle to blame Israel for their suffering.

We dumb Americans are just too dumb to buy into it I guess.
Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna
happen anyway.
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Yeah but what can all you Jew hating morons do about it...

[link to www.chick.com]


You know that its all true, but you still support the Zionists and insult us?

Amazing


Just FYI, I don't see 19.47 admitting it's all true, more like deciding not to argue and laughing at your persistence.

Truth is a matter of perspective. The Zionist have stolen land and persecuted the Palestinians- Your Perspective.


The UN had the right to redistribute the land once Britain gave them control. –The UN Perspective.

Israel will give back land for peace, but peace must come first. –The Israel Perspective.

The Palestinians remain a belligerent group of refugees, who Israel (out of more kindness than I have) do their best to keep some semblance of peace. -My Perspective


Sad for the Palestinians, that Arab countries won’t band together and help in their relocation. (Mass-ethnic-cleansing if you will) Those poor souls are unfortunate pawns in an Arab struggle to blame Israel for their suffering.

We dumb Americans are just too dumb to buy into it I guess.
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Obviously you don't understand. I do not begrudge the nation of Israel. Its the occupied territories.

In 1967 Israel launched a Sneak Attack. They occupied land belonging to all of their neighbors. Today, more than forty years later, the occupation continues. The people living in these occupied territories have been denied National, Civil and Human Rights, had their lands stolen from them, been denied freedom of passage... I could go on and on, but you don't like reading long posts so I won't.

Bottom line is that Israel must either withdrawal, or they must annex and give the people Equal Rights as citizens.

Give back what you stole, or accept as equals the people you have been oppressing for two generations.

Thats not hate. Where else in the world do we as America tolerate such a situation? Not only that, we pay for it.
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Bottom line is that Israel must either withdrawal, or they must annex and give the people Equal Rights as citizens.

Give back what you stole, or accept as equals the people you have been oppressing for two generations.

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What is the Israeli justification for not annexing, or withdrawing?

I'm sure it's not the nana-nana we got your land defense.
Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna
happen anyway.
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And they're still at it as we speak:

'Israel behind secret land grab'

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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What is the Israeli justification for not annexing, or withdrawing?

I'm sure it's not the nana-nana we got your land defense.
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They do not justify it. They confuse people so much in the media they simply do not understand the political situation.

You can make people believe lies by saying half the truth with twisted words. It works. Look at you. You thought you understood.

If a picture is worth a thousand words here is more than you would be willing to read. The maps show what words cant tell.

Please have a look.

[link to arab.sa.utoronto.ca]

[link to www.passia.org]

And ask yourself if Equal Rights is hate.
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So when do we start keeping track?
At what point does history not apply?
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So when do we start keeping track?
At what point does history not apply?
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How about the present or the recent past.

I fear this thread will reach many pages before you reach your conclusion if you ever do.
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So when do we start keeping track?
At what point does history not apply?

How about the present or the recent past.

I fear this thread will reach many pages before you reach your conclusion if you ever do.
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What history is not to be considered?
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So when do we start keeping track?
At what point does history not apply?

How about the present or the recent past.

I fear this thread will reach many pages before you reach your conclusion if you ever do.

What history is not to be considered?
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History to be equal as subjectively possible, which is nearly impossible.
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A~A,
While you were gone, I thought maybe you moved on and actually got a life..
But I see that isn't true, and you still to hate others
'cause otherwise you'd have to hate yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 260155



He who defines truth as hate dispises himself.... or is too stupid too realize it.

I have a homeland all picked out for the Zionist killers who attacked and exploited our nation, at the bottom of the dead sea.

Let us who see the truth stand together with our allies in this struggle nommater what differences we have. The common enemy must be elliminated. My guess is, once it is, we won't see the need to concentrate on our differences anymore/
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07/09/2007 08:15 PM
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To those who hate the truth
the truth is hate.
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07/09/2007 08:24 PM
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They do not justify it. They just confuse people so much in the media they do not understand the political situation.

You can make people believe lies by saying the half the truth with twisted words. It works. Look at you. You thought you understood.

If a picture is worth a thousand words here is more than you would be willing to read. The maps show what words cant tell.

 Quoting: Arch~Angel


I see the maps, but I know there wasn't a nation of Palestine, so the first map starts off wrong. They didn't own all that land.

I know that the Arabs didn't accept the UN proposed division, so that one doesn't matter either.

I see that their land keeps shrinking after losing wars with Israel. (kind of expect that)

I don't want to write a book here, but I thought maybe you had some earth shattering truth that I hadn't heard.

Somehow Israel has to justify to the US, England, and other friendly nations, why compliance with UN resolutions are either unfair, or would cause undue harm to Israel. I have read the published Israeli material, on Jewish Virtual Library, and everything they say seems reasonable, and fits with what I see going on in the world.

The Palestinian pleas of: Apartheid, Right of return, land stolen, Zionist plot, green line will bring peace, don't add up. They couldn't govern themselves any better even if Israel did withdraw to the green line, and very few believe it would bring peace.

Guess I heard it all.

Thanks anyway.
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To those who hate the truth
the truth is hate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 260155


The easiest thing to do is hate. The second hardest thing to do is to admit you were wrong.

The hardest is to admit you were duped.....
"It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati, and the principles of Jacobinism, had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am."

~George Washington, 1782


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