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Compiling Zionist Lies & Answering Them

 
Grizzled Old Goat

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They do not justify it. They just confuse people so much in the media they do not understand the political situation.

You can make people believe lies by saying the half the truth with twisted words. It works. Look at you. You thought you understood.

If a picture is worth a thousand words here is more than you would be willing to read. The maps show what words cant tell.



I see the maps, but I know there wasn't a nation of Palestine, so the first map starts off wrong. They didn't own all that land.

I know that the Arabs didn't accept the UN proposed division, so that one doesn't matter either.

I see that their land keeps shrinking after losing wars with Israel. (kind of expect that)

I don't want to write a book here, but I thought maybe you had some earth shattering truth that I hadn't heard.

Somehow Israel has to justify to the US, England, and other friendly nations, why compliance with UN resolutions are either unfair, or would cause undue harm to Israel. I have read the published Israeli material, on Jewish Virtual Library, and everything they say seems reasonable, and fits with what I see going on in the world.

The Palestinian pleas of: Apartheid, Right of return, land stolen, Zionist plot, green line will bring peace, don't add up. They couldn't govern themselves any better even if Israel did withdraw to the green line, and very few believe it would bring peace.

Guess I heard it all.

Thanks anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212949

:thmup:

Good sum-up on the thread. The so called palestinians have no 'right of return', and even if they did - why would they want to go and live amongst their despised jewish enemy? Could it be that there is an arab/muslim agenda to rid Israel of jews?

Just askin'
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Confession?
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I see the maps, but I know there wasn't a nation of Palestine, so the first map starts off wrong. They didn't own all that land.
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If not Palestine what was the land called from 1922 to 1947? Some say it was a nation, others do not. It was occupied by the British. But all of the people living there were called Palestinians, even the Jews.

I know that the Arabs didn't accept the UN proposed division, so that one doesn't matter either.

They didn't accept the division then, and today they do not accept the expansionist occupation.

I see that their land keeps shrinking after losing wars with Israel. (kind of expect that)

Israel has not annexed the lands the Arabs 'lost'. But did the land lose the people?

I don't want to write a book here, but I thought maybe you had some earth shattering truth that I hadn't heard.

Somehow Israel has to justify to the US, England, and other friendly nations, why compliance with UN resolutions are either unfair, or would cause undue harm to Israel. I have read the published Israeli material, on Jewish Virtual Library, and everything they say seems reasonable, and fits with what I see going on in the world.


That explains your bias and your confusion. If you had looked at the issue from different perspectives you would have a different view.

The Palestinian pleas of: Apartheid, Right of return, land stolen, Zionist plot, green line will bring peace, don't add up.

They certainly do add up. Is continued occupation the way to peace? Is not two laws for two people an Apartheid? Is land that is taken, not given or sold, stolen?

They couldn't govern themselves any better even if Israel did withdraw to the green line, and very few believe it would bring peace.

Many believe it is the only way to peace, and that anything is better than continued occupation [other than ethnic cleansing].

Guess I heard it all.

Thanks anyway.


So then you are one of those for Mass Ethnic cleansing while accusing others of hate?
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Good sum-up on the thread. The so called palestinians have no 'right of return', and even if they did - why would they want to go and live amongst their despised jewish enemy? Could it be that there is an arab/muslim agenda to rid Israel of jews?

Just askin'
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


The Palestinians in the occupied territories don't want to go back. They're already there. They want the Israeli military to leave so they can finally have freedom after 40 years of brutal military occupation.
"It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati, and the principles of Jacobinism, had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am."

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Confession?
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The hardcore Zionists will never confess even when they know the full truth. They are too caught up the dichotomy to stand outside and think for themselves.

Their intention is to swing the undecided with their propaganda and outright lies. How else do you defend Nazish aggression?
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Good sum-up on the thread. The so called palestinians have no 'right of return', and even if they did - why would they want to go and live amongst their despised jewish enemy? Could it be that there is an arab/muslim agenda to rid Israel of jews?

Just askin'


The Palestinians in the occupied territories don't want to go back. They're already there. They want the Israeli military to leave so they can finally have freedom after 40 years of brutal military occupation.
 Quoting: Arch~Angel


Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..
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Good sum-up on the thread. The so called palestinians have no 'right of return', and even if they did - why would they want to go and live amongst their despised jewish enemy? Could it be that there is an arab/muslim agenda to rid Israel of jews?

Just askin'


The Palestinians in the occupied territories don't want to go back. They're already there. They want the Israeli military to leave so they can finally have freedom after 40 years of brutal military occupation.


Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


Stop grabbing land.

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Good sum-up on the thread. The so called palestinians have no 'right of return', and even if they did - why would they want to go and live amongst their despised jewish enemy? Could it be that there is an arab/muslim agenda to rid Israel of jews?

Just askin'


The Palestinians in the occupied territories don't want to go back. They're already there. They want the Israeli military to leave so they can finally have freedom after 40 years of brutal military occupation.


Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..

Makes sense. But as OP pointed out, I have been biased that way.
Maybe it is all the Death to America, Death to Israel chanting they show on tv.

I suspect the Zionist media just won't show the Israeli protesters chanting Death to Palestine.
Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna
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Good sum-up on the thread. The so called palestinians have no 'right of return', and even if they did - why would they want to go and live amongst their despised jewish enemy? Could it be that there is an arab/muslim agenda to rid Israel of jews?

Just askin'


The Palestinians in the occupied territories don't want to go back. They're already there. They want the Israeli military to leave so they can finally have freedom after 40 years of brutal military occupation.


Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..


Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..

Makes sense. But as OP pointed out, I have been biased that way.
Maybe it is all the Death to America, Death to Israel chanting they show on tv.

I suspect the Zionist media just won't show the Israeli protesters chanting Death to Palestine.
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Bastards!

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Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


And if they return the soldiers, stop rocket attacks, and elect a government will Israel then withdraw behind the Green Line?

Can we have this in writing? This sounds like what Arafat offered for decades.

What makes you think Israel would? They have given no indication.
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Makes sense. But as OP pointed out, I have been biased that way.
Maybe it is all the Death to America, Death to Israel chanting they show on tv.

I suspect the Zionist media just won't show the Israeli protesters chanting Death to Palestine.
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If you had suffered under the oppression and humiliation of the occupation for two generations you just might wish for their death out loud. Along with the ones paying for it.

The Palestinians grievances are legitimate. No where else in the world have so many people been denied sovereignty for so long. No where else are such harsh conditions imposed by an occupier.

Its the worst political, social, and military situation in the world. And you dismiss it out of hand.

You don't want to know WHY because then you would have to believe Israel is at fault.
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Easy - stop attacking Iraeli towns with indiscriminate rocket salvos, stop kidnapping Israeli soldiers through tunnels, and get on with electing a REAL government..


And if they return the soldiers, stop rocket attacks, and elect a government will Israel then withdraw behind the Green Line?

Can we have this in writing? This sounds like what Arafat offered for decades.

What makes you think Israel would? They have given no indication.
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I believe they HAVE indicated they would, depending on whose version of the green line you accept. It's generally accepted in Israel that the settlements will have to go if there is ever to be peace. But who do you negotiate with? Corrupt and broken Fatah, or bloodthirsty Hamas? Perhaps with Ahmadinejad directly?
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I believe they HAVE indicated they would, depending on whose version of the green line you accept. It's generally accepted in Israel that the settlements will have to go if there is ever to be peace. But who do you negotiate with? Corrupt and broken Fatah, or bloodthirsty Hamas? Perhaps with Ahmadinejad directly?
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat


The exact line and disposition of Jerusalem is open for debate. But a full withdrawal and sovereignty has never been offered by Israel.

You negotiate with the elected leaders no matter who they are.

Its not an excuse for continuation.
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If you had suffered under the oppression and humiliation of the occupation for two generations you just might wish for their death out loud. Along with the ones paying for it.

The Palestinians grievances are legitimate. No where else in the world have so many people been denied sovereignty for so long. No where else are such harsh conditions imposed by an occupier.

Its the worst political, social, and military situation in the world. And you dismiss it out of hand.

You don't want to know WHY because then you would have to believe Israel is at fault.
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The Palestinians grievances are legitimate.
To them. Not to Israel. Not to the nations who vote against enforcing UN resolutions.


I read most of what you posted, even though I criticized the length. I had read most of it before too.

In the end, Israel holds the upper hand. They appear to want peace, and are being very reasonable. The Palestinians and other Arab nations are not.

For Example:
I take this opportunity to appeal to the Palestinians and repeat, as I said at Aqaba: it is not in our interest to govern you. We would like you to govern yourselves in your own country. A democratic Palestinian state with territorial contiguity in Judea and Samaria and economic viability, which would conduct normal relations of tranquility, security and peace with Israel. Abandon the path of terror and let us together stop the bloodshed. Let us move forward together towards peace.
-Ariel Sharon



Was he kidding? I think that's what they want. No one would want to be surrounded by millions of angry Arab nations, when they could be living in peace.

Didn't Israel stop building in the territories?

Didn't Israel move it's own citizens out of Gaza?

Did they get peace? No.
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The Palestinians grievances are legitimate.
To them. Not to Israel. Not to the nations who vote against enforcing UN resolutions.
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The nations voting against are America, Israel, Micronesia, and sometimes Great Britain. It is the American veto that has stopped the UN from doing anything significant.


I read most of what you posted, even though I criticized the length. I had read most of it before too.

In the end, Israel holds the upper hand. They appear to want peace, and are being very reasonable. The Palestinians and other Arab nations are not.

For Example:
I take this opportunity to appeal to the Palestinians and repeat, as I said at Aqaba: it is not in our interest to govern you. We would like you to govern yourselves in your own country. A democratic Palestinian state with territorial contiguity in Judea and Samaria and economic viability, which would conduct normal relations of tranquility, security and peace with Israel. Abandon the path of terror and let us together stop the bloodshed. Let us move forward together towards peace.
-Ariel Sharon


We could post good and bad from Both sides. Sharon has said the exact opposite several times.


Was he kidding? I think that's what they want. No one would want to be surrounded by millions of angry Arab nations, when they could be living in peace.

What they want is all the land to the Jordan river, and maybe beyond.

Didn't Israel stop building in the territories?

No. They have expanded the settlements faster than ever before in the West Bank.

Didn't Israel move it's own citizens out of Gaza?

They did not end the occupation. The people there do not have sovereignty. Israel still controls the border, the airspace, and the seas space. They have been under blockade for over a year. Israel allows a token amount of food through, but most people are starving.

They were attacked for turning Gaza into Auschwitz.

Did they get peace? No.
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Ariel Sharon:

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online

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We really got the short end of the stick when they were handing out Zionist forum infiltrators.
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We really got the short end of the stick when they were handing out Zionist forum infiltrators.
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That's funny.

I was thinking GLP is scrapping the bottom of the barrel for quality Jew haters.
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We really got the short end of the stick when they were handing out Zionist forum infiltrators.


That's funny.

I was thinking GLP is scrapping the bottom of the barrel for quality Jew haters.
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What here is hate other than your call for Ethnic Cleansing?

I figured it would devolve into this, calling hate without anything to back it up, but give me a break.

YOU are clearly the hater. And you have nothing left to say on the issues which is pretty much an admission that its all true.
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YOU are clearly the hater. And you have nothing left to say on the issues which is pretty much an admission that its all true.
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Given that level of logic, it's no wonder that nobody wants to waste their time with you.
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YOU are clearly the hater. And you have nothing left to say on the issues which is pretty much an admission that its all true.
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Given that level of logic, it's no wonder that nobody wants to waste their time with you.
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Yup! That's a pretty lame 'argument'..
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We really got the short end of the stick when they were handing out Zionist forum infiltrators.


That's funny.

I was thinking GLP is scrapping the bottom of the barrel for quality Jew haters.
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Scribe and GOG come out with the tired old cliched insults which are zionist code words for: "I've lost the argument, so i better resort to name calling" Yawn.



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Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states:

If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out:

"To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israel, and in so doing fail to hold Jews accountable for our choices and our actions, as members of the human community, as individuals, and as a nation state -- especially as a nation state. To make this mistake, to allow yourselves to be - I will use the word - bullied by the threat of the charge of anti-Semitism, is to commit a pernicious fallacy." - Mark Braverman

He now writes on the website [link to JewishConscience.org] which is dedicated to promoting discussion and dialogue within and between communities throughout the world on issues of justice for the people of Palestine and Israel

[link to www.wearewideawake.org]
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Scribe and GOG come out with the tired old cliched insults which are zionist code words for: "I've lost the argument, so i better resort to name calling" Yawn.



Jewish Peace Activist - Don't
Fear 'Anti-Semite' Label
7-10-7

Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states:

If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out:

"To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israel, and in so doing fail to hold Jews accountable for our choices and our actions, as members of the human community, as individuals, and as a nation state -- especially as a nation state. To make this mistake, to allow yourselves to be - I will use the word - bullied by the threat of the charge of anti-Semitism, is to commit a pernicious fallacy." - Mark Braverman

He now writes on the website [link to JewishConscience.org] which is dedicated to promoting discussion and dialogue within and between communities throughout the world on issues of justice for the people of Palestine and Israel

[link to www.wearewideawake.org]
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So from this, you would conclude it is okay to say "Jews are scum"?
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Scribe and GOG come out with the tired old cliched insults which are zionist code words for: "I've lost the argument, so i better resort to name calling" Yawn.



Jewish Peace Activist - Don't
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7-10-7

Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states:

If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out:

"To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israel, and in so doing fail to hold Jews accountable for our choices and our actions, as members of the human community, as individuals, and as a nation state -- especially as a nation state. To make this mistake, to allow yourselves to be - I will use the word - bullied by the threat of the charge of anti-Semitism, is to commit a pernicious fallacy." - Mark Braverman

He now writes on the website [link to JewishConscience.org] which is dedicated to promoting discussion and dialogue within and between communities throughout the world on issues of justice for the people of Palestine and Israel

[link to www.wearewideawake.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 263150


Just to be a little more clear, the title of this thread is "Zionist Lies", not "Lies of the Government of Israel".

According to Braverman, there is difference between the two. Do you agree?
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Jewish Peace Activist - Don't
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7-10-7

Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states:

If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out:

"To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israel, and in so doing fail to hold Jews accountable for our choices and our actions, as members of the human community, as individuals, and as a nation state -- especially as a nation state. To make this mistake, to allow yourselves to be - I will use the word - bullied by the threat of the charge of anti-Semitism, is to commit a pernicious fallacy." - Mark Braverman

He now writes on the website [link to JewishConscience.org] which is dedicated to promoting discussion and dialogue within and between communities throughout the world on issues of justice for the people of Palestine and Israel

[link to www.wearewideawake.org]


So from this, you would conclude it is okay to say "Jews are scum"?
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Just give 'em the slightest prompting!
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We really got the short end of the stick when they were handing out Zionist forum infiltrators.


That's funny.

I was thinking GLP is scrapping the bottom of the barrel for quality Jew haters.



What here is hate other than your call for Ethnic Cleansing?

I figured it would devolve into this, calling hate without anything to back it up, but give me a break.

YOU are clearly the hater. And you have nothing left to say on the issues which is pretty much an admission that its all true.
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What here is hate other than your call for Ethnic Cleansing?

Relocating a dispossessed people for their own good is not hate. Was it wrong for the US to relocate the people left homeless from hurricanes? I'm sure they didn't want to leave either, but letting them stay in poverty, and violence for 40 years would be worse.

I figured it would devolve into this, calling hate without anything to back it up, but give me a break.
You can look back to see where the name calling began, and it started with you.

YOU are clearly the hater.
You are clearly of Arab (probably Palestinian) descent or you wouldn't be blaming solely Israel for the Palestinian suffering.

And you have nothing left to say on the issues which is pretty much an admission that its all true.

Because I stopped the dialog to respond to your jab at calling me a Zionist infiltrator, (and a poor one to boot) means I admit I was wrong? No wonder the working of the Arab mind are a mystery to the west.
Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna
happen anyway.
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Scribe and GOG come out with the tired old cliched insults which are zionist code words for: "I've lost the argument, so i better resort to name calling" Yawn.



Jewish Peace Activist - Don't
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Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states:

If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out:

"To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israel, and in so doing fail to hold Jews accountable for our choices and our actions, as members of the human community, as individuals, and as a nation state -- especially as a nation state. To make this mistake, to allow yourselves to be - I will use the word - bullied by the threat of the charge of anti-Semitism, is to commit a pernicious fallacy." - Mark Braverman

He now writes on the website [link to JewishConscience.org] which is dedicated to promoting discussion and dialogue within and between communities throughout the world on issues of justice for the people of Palestine and Israel

[link to www.wearewideawake.org]


So from this, you would conclude it is okay to say "Jews are scum"?
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I have never or would ever call jews scum. i have nothing against anyone because of who they are.
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Scribe and GOG come out with the tired old cliched insults which are zionist code words for: "I've lost the argument, so i better resort to name calling" Yawn.



Jewish Peace Activist - Don't
Fear 'Anti-Semite' Label
7-10-7

Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states:

If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out:

"To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israel, and in so doing fail to hold Jews accountable for our choices and our actions, as members of the human community, as individuals, and as a nation state -- especially as a nation state. To make this mistake, to allow yourselves to be - I will use the word - bullied by the threat of the charge of anti-Semitism, is to commit a pernicious fallacy." - Mark Braverman

He now writes on the website [link to JewishConscience.org] which is dedicated to promoting discussion and dialogue within and between communities throughout the world on issues of justice for the people of Palestine and Israel

[link to www.wearewideawake.org]


So from this, you would conclude it is okay to say "Jews are scum"?


I have never or would ever call jews scum. i have nothing against anyone because of who they are.
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Fair enough.

The title of this thread is "Zionist Lies", not "Lies of the Government of Israel".

The quoted material doesn't apply to this thread, don't you agree?


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