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Check out this fresh baby mammoth, straight outta the permafrost!

 
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[link to news.bbc.co.uk]


Baby mammoth discovery unveiled
By Paul Rincon
Science reporter, BBC News

A baby mammoth unearthed in the permafrost of north-west Siberia could be the best preserved specimen of its type, scientists have said.

The frozen carcass is to be sent to Japan for detailed study.

The six-month-old female calf was discovered on the Yamal peninsula of Russia and is thought to have died 10,000 years ago.

The animal's trunk and eyes are still intact and some of its fur remains on the body.

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Wow! That is truly amazing
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I think it died about 4400 years ago
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This animal died during the flood of Noah's day
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This animal died during the flood of Noah's day
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LOL!
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the only way to get such a specimen would be for the animal to freeze immediately and not decompose...and be covered up by snow also immediately...

there is only one way for this to happen...and for that go to zetatalk.com
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179005 .... He who laughs last, IS the slowest thinker!
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the only way to get such a specimen would be for the animal to freeze immediately and not decompose...and be covered up by snow also immediately...

there is only one way for this to happen...and for that go to zetatalk.com
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The above description of how Global warming or cooling can cause mass extinctions is clever, but it does not take into account the creativity of human beings. Certainly, there could be massive reductions in the human population as a consequence of Global Warming or Cooling, but it would be unlikely to produce a mass extinction such as those for which we have evidence in the past. Let me quote a bit from Secret History:

Back in the 1940s Dr. Frank C. Hibben, Prof. of Archeology at the University of New Mexico led an expedition to Alaska to look for human remains. He didn't find human remains; he found miles and miles of icy muck just packed with mammoths, mastodons, and several kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions. Just north of Fairbanks, Alaska, the members of the expedition watched in horror as bulldozers pushed the half-melted muck into sluice boxes for the extraction of gold. Animal tusks and bones rolled up in front of the blades "like shavings before a giant plane". The carcasses were found in all attitudes of death, most of them "pulled apart by some unexplainable prehistoric catastrophic disturbance."[Hibben, Frank, The Lost Americans (New York: Thomas & Crowell Co. 1946)]


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The evident violence of the deaths of these masses of animals, combined with the stench of rotting flesh, was almost unendurable both in seeing it, and in considering what might have caused it. The killing fields stretched for literally hundreds of miles in every direction.[ibid.] There were trees and animals, layers of peat and moss, twisted and tangled and mangled together as though some Cosmic mix master sucked them all in 12000 years ago, and then froze them instantly into a solid mass. [Sanderson, Ivan T., "Riddle of the Frozen Giants", Saturday Evening Post, No. 39, January 16, 1960.]

Just north of Siberia entire islands are formed of the bones of Pleistocene animals swept northward from the continent into the freezing Arctic Ocean. One estimate suggests that some ten million animals may be buried along the rivers of northern Siberia. Thousands upon thousands of tusks created a massive ivory trade for the master carvers of China, all from the frozen mammoths and mastodons of Siberia. The famous Beresovka mammoth first drew attention to the preserving properties of being quick-frozen when buttercups were found in its mouth.

What kind of terrible event overtook these millions of creatures in a single day? Well, the evidence suggests an enormous tsunami raging across the land, tumbling animals and vegetation together, to be finally quick-frozen for the next 12000 years. But the extinction was not limited to the Arctic, even if the freezing at colder locations preserved the evidence of Nature's rage up to our present time.

Paleontologist George G. Simpson considers the extinction of the Pleistocene horse in North America to be one of the most mysterious episodes in zoological history, confessing, "no one knows the answer." He is also honest enough to admit that there is the larger problem of the extinction of many other species in America at the same time. [Simpson, George G., Horses, New York: Oxford University Press) 1961] The horse, giant tortoises living in the Caribbean, the giant sloth, the saber-toothed tiger, the glyptodont and toxodon. These were all tropical animals. These creatures didn't die because of the "gradual onset" of an ice age, "unless one is willing to postulate freezing temperatures across the equator, such an explanation clearly begs the question." [Martin, P. S. & Guilday, J. E., "Bestiary for Pleistocene Biologists", Pleistocene Extinction, Yale University, 1967]

Massive piles of mastodon and saber-toothed tiger bones were discovered in Florida. [Valentine, quoted by Berlitz, Charles, The Mystery of Atlantis (New York, 1969)] Mastodons, toxodons, giant sloths and other animals were found in Venezuela quick-frozen in mountain glaciers. Woolly rhinoceros, giant armadillos, giant beavers, giant jaguars, ground sloths, antelopes and scores of other entire species were all totally wiped out at the same time, at the end of the Pleistocene, approximately 12000 years ago.

This event was global. The mammoths of Siberia became extinct at the same time as the giant rhinoceros of Europe; the mastodons of Alaska, the bison of Siberia, the Asian elephants and the American camels. It is obvious that the cause of these extinctions must be common to both hemispheres, and that it was not gradual. A "uniformitarian glaciation" would not have caused extinctions because the various animals would have simply migrated to better pasture. What is seen is a surprising event of uncontrolled violence. [Leonard, R. Cedric, Appendix A in "A Geological Study of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge", Special Paper No. 1 ( Bethany: Cowen Publishing 1979)]

In other words, 12000 years ago, a time we have met before and will come across again and again, something terrible happened - so terrible that life on earth was nearly wiped out in a single day.

Harold P. Lippman admits that the magnitude of fossils and tusks encased in the Siberian permafrost present an "insuperable difficulty" to the theory of uniformitarianism, since no gradual process can result in the preservation of tens of thousands of tusks and whole individuals, "even if they died in winter." [Lippman, Harold E., "Frozen Mammoths", Physical Geology, (New York 1969)] This is true especially when many of these individuals have undigested grasses and leaves in their belly. Pleistocene geologist William R. Farrand of the Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory, who is opposed to catastrophism in any form, states: "Sudden death is indicated by the robust condition of the animals and their full stomachs ... the animals were robust and healthy when they died." [Farrand, William R., "Frozen Mammoths and Modern Geology", Science, Vol.133, No. 3455, March 17, 1961] Unfortunately, in spite of this admission, this poor guy seems to have been incapable of facing the reality of worldwide catastrophe represented by the millions of bones deposited all over this planet right at the end of the Pleistocene. Hibben sums up the situation in a single statement: "The Pleistocene period ended in death. This was no ordinary extinction of a vague geological period, which fizzled to an uncertain end. This death was catastrophic and all inclusive." [Hibben, op. cit.]

The conclusion is, again, that the end of the Ice Age, the Pleistocene extinction, the end of the Upper Paleolithic, Magdalenian, Perigordian, and so on, and the end of the "reign of the gods," all came to a global, catastrophic end about 12,000 years ago. [The Secret History of the World]

This is the event that Firestone, West and Warwick-Smith discuss in their book, The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization, mentioned

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It was flash frozen and the cycle will repeat.

Odd how they keep finding well-preserved mammoths but not other species.
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Odd how they keep finding well-preserved mammoths but not other species.
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Come to think of it, maybe the mammoths were the last surviving species left in that geographical area before the Ice Age hit the reset button. The other animals could have died and decomposed long before the ice came.
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MAJOR POLE SHIFT/EARTH ROLLED LIKE A BALL.
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I take great comfort in the fact that no matter how evil the individuals are who now have a grip on our world, they cannot withstand the forces of nature come the day that Earth reacts.
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wtf CLONE IT!!!!
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the only way to get such a specimen would be for the animal to freeze immediately and not decompose
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Absolutely.
But you need unearthly cold temperatures to shock freeze that large body and you have to do it quick, within a few hours!

Any worker in industrial freezing? Which temperature is used to freeze an animal like that and how long does it last?

And note: That body is at least some hundreds years old. Now way, it would be some thousands years!
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I take great comfort in the fact that no matter how evil the individuals are who now have a grip on our world, they cannot withstand the forces of nature come the day that Earth reacts.
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there ya go! hf
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To understand siberian mammoths, begin here:

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the only way to get such a specimen would be for the animal to freeze immediately and not decompose


Absolutely.
But you need unearthly cold temperatures to shock freeze that large body and you have to do it quick, within a few hours!

Any worker in industrial freezing? Which temperature is used to freeze an animal like that and how long does it last?

And note: That body is at least some hundreds years old. Now way, it would be some thousands years!
 Quoting: McKracken

"within a few hours"
at the most, somestill had food in their mouth.
There's two theories, one being normal creation science, the other what some would label borderline sci-fi.

Either the critter was frozen by falling water and ice canopy, from the preflood VanAllen belts

or

They wondered out of hollow earth

One would put them at around 4400 years old and froze instantly by very cold ice, the other, less likely could have happened at anytime, recently, but not froze instantly.
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Video:
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Direct link to flv file: (right click on link and save as to download it and you can view it with Videolan VLC)
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To understand siberian mammoths, begin here:

Reaction to Best Seller "Science" Hoaxes exposed, from Plate Tectonics to Mid Atlantic Ridge: Illuminati Jokes
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The end of the MAMMOTHS - explained worldwide first by Matt Marriott
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Not to be confused with the end of the DINOSAURS, also explained worldwide first by End Times Prophet.
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Odd how they keep finding well-preserved mammoths but not other species.


Come to think of it, maybe the mammoths were the last surviving species left in that geographical area before the Ice Age hit the reset button. The other animals could have died and decomposed long before the ice came.
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"We can not doubt, after such testimony, of the existence, in the frozen north, of the almost entire remains of the mammoth. The animals seem to have perished suddenly; enveloped in ice at the moment of their death, their bodies have been preserved from decomposition by the continual action of the cold."[2]

Cuvier says, speaking of the bodies of the quadrupeds which the ice had seized, and which have been preserved, with their hair, flesh, and skin, down to our own times:

"If they had not been frozen as soon as killed, putrefaction would have decomposed them; and, on the other hand, this eternal frost could not have previously prevailed in the place where they died, for they could not have lived in such a temperature. It was, therefore, at the same instant when these animals perished that the country they inhabited was rendered glacial. These events must have been sudden, instantaneous, and without any gradation."[3]

There is abundant evidence that the Drift fell upon a land covered with forests, and that the trunks of the trees were swept into the mass of clay and gravel, where they are preserved to this day.

Mr. Whittlesey gives an account of a log found forty feet below the surface, in a bed of blue clay, resting

[1. "The World before the Deluge," p. 463.

2. Ibid., p. 396.

3. "Ossements fossiles, Discours sur les Révolutions du Globe."]

{p. 48}

upon the "hard-pan" or "till," in a well dug at Columbia, Ohio.[1]

At Bloomington, Illinois, pieces of wood were found one hundred and twenty-three feet below the surface, in sinking a shaft.[2]

And it is a very remarkable fact that none of these Illinois clays contain any fossils.[3]

The inference, therefore, is irresistible that the clay, thus unfossiliferous, fell upon and inclosed the trees while they were yet growing.

These facts alone would dispose of the theory that the Drift was deposited upon lands already covered with water. It is evident, on the contrary, that it was dry land, inhabited land, land embowered in forests.

On top of the Norwich crag, in England, are found the remains of an ancient forest, "showing stumps of trees standing erect with their roots penetrating an ancient soil."[4] In this soil occur the remains of many extinct species of animals, together with those of others still living; among these may be mentioned the hippopotamus, three species of elephant, the mammoths, rhinoceros, bear, horse, Irish elk, etc.

In Ireland remains of trees have been found in sand-beds below the till.[5]

Ignatious Donnely: Ragnarok - The Age of Fire and Gravel
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As you can see the mammoth didn't even begin to rot. It was flash frozen upon death and stayed that way for thousands of years...hmmm.
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"The animals seem to have perished suddenly"

On other news:
In Pompeii, people seem to have perished suddenly...
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Since it's fresh I'd like to get a piece of that and eat it.
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Have to call B.S. on that one
anyone can see it's an elephant . bsflag
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"The animals seem to have perished suddenly"

On other news:
In Pompeii, people seem to have perished suddenly...
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Arctic Circle: It's 3 AM and temperature is 24°C
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Again and again - new all time high
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mhmmmm :)~
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It was flash frozen and the cycle will repeat.

Odd how they keep finding well-preserved mammoths but not other species.
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Preserved humans have been found in the Switzerland ice and in the peat bogs of Europe. There are others elsewhere.
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Odd how they keep finding well-preserved mammoths but not other species.
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Fool or CIA psy-op?
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Fresh out of the freezers of the genetics lab.
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Have to call B.S. on that one
anyone can see it's an elephant . bsflag
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yeah I know. That is so mammoth.
Miracles happen, not in opposition to Nature, but in opposition to what we know of Nature.
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To understand siberian mammoths, begin here:

Reaction to Best Seller "Science" Hoaxes exposed, from Plate Tectonics to Mid Atlantic Ridge: Illuminati Jokes

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