I C SO MANY HERE SAYING LUCIFER IS SATAN-WTF IS WRONG W/U PEOPLE? | |
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Gradient Get over yourself User ID: 258484 United States 07/13/2007 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you fro spreading the light Quoting: LukeAtMyDikLucifer Yur welcome and thank you for not knowing how to spell fro lol Wait no need for a raply. Quoting: LukeAtMyDikand thank you for not knowing how to spell "raply" lol glptrainer(at)yahoo.com |
mathetes User ID: 265588 United States 07/13/2007 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you fro spreading the light Quoting: GradientLucifer Yur welcome and thank you for not knowing how to spell fro lol Wait no need for a raply. and thank you for not knowing how to spell "raply" lol LOL For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 263838 United States 07/13/2007 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anu was the highest deity in Babylonian history and Venus was the worshipped deity, Ishtar. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 263838 United States 07/13/2007 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the Vulgate, an early-5th-century translation of the Bible into Latin by Jerome, Lucifer ("light-bearer") occurs in Isaiah 14:12-14 as a translation of the Septuagint Greek word heosphoros ("dawn-bearer"), an epithet of Venus. The original Hebrew text of this verse was הילל בן שחר (heilel ben-shachar), meaning "Helel (bright one) son of Shachar (dawn)". Helel, the morning star, was a Babylonian / Canaanite god who was the son of another Babylonian / Canaanite god Shahar, god of the dawn. Isaiah 14:12 is translated "How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning!" in the American Standard Version translating Hebrew Helel as "day-star" and the Hebrew word ben as "son" and the Hebrew word shahar as "morning." The 21st Century King James translates it as "Lucifer, son of the morning". In Isaiah, this title is specifically used, in a prophetic vision, to allude to the king of Babylon's pride and to illustrate his eventual fate by referencing mythological accounts of the planet Venus. So, Lucifer was actually a symbol for a bright, shining star that fell from a lofty height. Is the christ consciousness coming with Venus? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 160826 United States 07/13/2007 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHO IS HE? He has many aliases . . . Liar Angel of light Imitator The tempter The evil one Prince of demons Satan = The adversary The devil = The slanderer Belial = The wicked one Beelzebub = Lord of flies Apollyon & Abaddon = Destroyer The great dragon That ancient serpent Prince of the power of the air Thief Murderer Roaring lion The adversary The father of lies Prince of darkness Prince of this world The god of this age The angel of the Abyss The oppressor of the saints The sower of discord The enemy of all good The spirit that works in the children of disobedience |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 160826 United States 07/13/2007 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE POWER OF SATAN OVER THOSE OUTSIDE OF CHRIST . . . Satan has the whole world of unbelievers under his control (Matthew 4:8-10; John 14:30; 1 John 5:19). Unbelievers belong to him (1 John 3:8,12) and are his children (1 John 3:10). Satan has the power of influence and blinding. He blinds the minds of the unbelieving (2 Corinthians 4:4). He prevents the gospel from entering their hearts (Matthew 13:19; Luke 8:11). Satan speaks through fortunetellers (Acts 16:16), cult leaders (1 Timothy 4:1-2), and false preachers (2 Corinthians 11: 13-15). He seeks to deceive about his existence, his purposes, his activities, and his coming defeat. He is the deceiver of the whole world (Revelation 12:8). His ultimate deception will be in the anti-christ (2 Thessalonians 2:9). Satan can control a person’s body. Demons can cause muteness (Luke 11:14), mental disorder (John 10:20), violent action (Luke 8:26-29), and crippling (Luke 13:11,16). In these examples Satan caused people to be handicapped although there was nothing physically wrong with them. Satan influences governments and nations. Daniel 10:12-13,20-21 gives us a glimpse into the spiritual realm of angels and demons and how they affect nations. The "prince of the Persian kingdom" (v.13) is apparently a demon exercising influence over the Persian realm in the interests of Satan. The archangel of God named Michael finally overcame his resistance. Likewise the "prince of Greece" in verse 20 is also a demon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 160826 United States 07/13/2007 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so we have now to ways . Quoting: Tomek 189887if the man is oppose to God what God said mean He ignore what God siad is He Satan or not ? because how we saw Satan didnt ignored was not opposed when Lord comand him to leave the man . No, Man was deceived by Satan in the garden of eden, we DISOBEYED God, But we didn't try to overthrow Him like Lucifer Did, That's why he was casted down to earth and now is trying to get as many people he can with him to hell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 187006 Canada 07/13/2007 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer = knowledge. Which the church suppresses with glee, from the flat earth to the idiotic idea that the earth and man were formed in 7 days. religion = pure evil Lucifer = enlightenment by making people scared of the knowledge that the truth of Venus represents, those that know the truth are able to separate the idiots from those that deserve power, and come to acquire it. Venus was the first planet/movement early sea farer's such as the Phoenicians learned to understand moved and changed positions in the night sky and this discovery led to the first age of enlightenment, the Greek philosophy, alchemy and hermetic texts. ask yourself one question - why, beyond coincidence, would the church specifically choose the pentagram to symbolize everything evil, when the pentagram is the only and perfect mathematical shape in the world - a self-perpetuating and infinite matrix of pentagrams that will perpetuate into infinity in over 5 points - 5 dimensions, for all time and infinity? when you finally understand that Satan serves g-ds plan just as all things do, you come to see that Satan is not the devil, but the bringer of truth and light, and that he frees your mind, and uses the church to control those that are truly dangerous. this game has been played for a long time, and it serves a specific purpose - when the time comes and evolution takes the next step forward, only those that have not strayed from the true g-d will be able to take the next step forward. |
Tomek User ID: 189887 Poland 07/13/2007 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and now is trying to get as many people he can with him to hell Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160826see I have a problem some peoples ignoring that to reject the devil acts from me and reject devil spirit marriage was given to me by Lord . I understand that it is not you who finaly ignoring this . tell me what to do ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 160826 United States 07/13/2007 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and now is trying to get as many people he can with him to hell Quoting: Tomek 189887see I have a problem some peoples ignoring that to reject the devil acts from me and reject devil spirit marriage was given to me by Lord . I understand that it is not you who finaly ignoring this . tell me what to do ? you have Free will my friend, it's your choice. Satan don't respect free will, once you are under his power he'll try really hard to keep you down. Only God can help you |
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MuadDib987 User ID: 265945 United States 07/13/2007 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a related article. I haven't read it all, so lemme know how it turns out. [link to www.logon.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 265962 Canada 07/13/2007 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you forgot to post the link to the original article. Are you trying to pass this article off as one that you wrote? [link to www.lds-mormon.com] |
LukeAtMyDik (OP) User ID: 260054 United States 07/13/2007 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer = knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 187006Which the church suppresses with glee, from the flat earth to the idiotic idea that the earth and man were formed in 7 days. religion = pure evil Lucifer = enlightenment by making people scared of the knowledge that the truth of Venus represents, those that know the truth are able to separate the idiots from those that deserve power, and come to acquire it. Venus was the first planet/movement early sea farer's such as the Phoenicians learned to understand moved and changed positions in the night sky and this discovery led to the first age of enlightenment, the Greek philosophy, alchemy and hermetic texts. ask yourself one question - why, beyond coincidence, would the church specifically choose the pentagram to symbolize everything evil, when the pentagram is the only and perfect mathematical shape in the world - a self-perpetuating and infinite matrix of pentagrams that will perpetuate into infinity in over 5 points - 5 dimensions, for all time and infinity? when you finally understand that Satan serves g-ds plan just as all things do, you come to see that Satan is not the devil, but the bringer of truth and light, and that he frees your mind, and uses the church to control those that are truly dangerous. this game has been played for a long time, and it serves a specific purpose - when the time comes and evolution takes the next step forward, only those that have not strayed from the true g-d will be able to take the next step forward. LKXXON |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 265075 Australia 07/13/2007 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer = knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 187006Which the church suppresses with glee, from the flat earth to the idiotic idea that the earth and man were formed in 7 days. religion = pure evil Lucifer = enlightenment by making people scared of the knowledge that the truth of Venus represents, those that know the truth are able to separate the idiots from those that deserve power, and come to acquire it. Venus was the first planet/movement early sea farer's such as the Phoenicians learned to understand moved and changed positions in the night sky and this discovery led to the first age of enlightenment, the Greek philosophy, alchemy and hermetic texts. ask yourself one question - why, beyond coincidence, would the church specifically choose the pentagram to symbolize everything evil, when the pentagram is the only and perfect mathematical shape in the world - a self-perpetuating and infinite matrix of pentagrams that will perpetuate into infinity in over 5 points - 5 dimensions, for all time and infinity? when you finally understand that Satan serves g-ds plan just as all things do, you come to see that Satan is not the devil, but the bringer of truth and light, and that he frees your mind, and uses the church to control those that are truly dangerous. this game has been played for a long time, and it serves a specific purpose - when the time comes and evolution takes the next step forward, only those that have not strayed from the true g-d will be able to take the next step forward. If you knew Christ's message, you would know that the various "Christian" churches have NEVER served him - they have served willingly and purposely served Lucifer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 263838 United States 07/13/2007 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to say it. If people insist on calling Lucifer the evil one, even though the name means lightbringer, why don't people see that we are the fallen angels? There are literally thousands of anti-christs walking around and these people believe their religion is sufficient. If we were spiritually evolved, we wouldn't be in 3-D and there would not have been a fall. I'm just sorry that people believe they have so little power and have yet to realize that it's their thoughts and feelings that determine how they exist. I think the E.T.'s are probably saying, "Damn, wake up already!" |
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