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NEW AGE RUBBISH!

 
Banishment
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Oh I see, so if we all meditate and pray for peace and love, then the world will change?

Has'nt real christians been doing this for centuries by the millions? This 'grid' deal reeks of NEW AGE RUBBISH, yet another stupid attempt by the Satanic forces to brainwash the gullible into believing that there is hope without a savior. Pray on! The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie.
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Oh I see, so if we all meditate and pray for peace and love, then the world will change?

Has'nt real christians been doing this for centuries by the millions? This 'grid' deal reeks of NEW AGE RUBBISH, yet another stupid attempt by the Satanic forces to brainwash the gullible into believing that there is hope without a savior. Pray on! The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie.
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embrace the grid, it loves you
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Oh I see, so if we all meditate and pray for peace and love, then the world will change?

Has'nt real christians been doing this for centuries by the millions? This 'grid' deal reeks of NEW AGE RUBBISH, yet another stupid attempt by the Satanic forces to brainwash the gullible into believing that there is hope without a savior. Pray on! The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie.
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way to go dude.. you trying to anger the Grid? its our last fucking hope. Get with it.
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Oh I see, so if we all meditate and pray for peace and love, then the world will change?

Has'nt real christians been doing this for centuries by the millions? This 'grid' deal reeks of NEW AGE RUBBISH, yet another stupid attempt by the Satanic forces to brainwash the gullible into believing that there is hope without a savior. Pray on! The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie.

way to go dude.. you trying to anger the Grid? its our last fucking hope. Get with it.
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Correction, you mean it's your last hope.
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We act and feel like majority of people feel, so events like FTG are beneficial for humanity.
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Oh I see, so if we all meditate and pray for peace and love, then the world will change?

Has'nt real christians been doing this for centuries by the millions? This 'grid' deal reeks of NEW AGE RUBBISH, yet another stupid attempt by the Satanic forces to brainwash the gullible into believing that there is hope without a savior. Pray on! The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie.
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The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie?

Now what was that plan again?
And who are these Real Christians?

Please enlighten us.
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What you call "Rubbish"
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Oh I see, so if we all meditate and pray for peace and love, then the world will change?

Has'nt real christians been doing this for centuries by the millions? This 'grid' deal reeks of NEW AGE RUBBISH, yet another stupid attempt by the Satanic forces to brainwash the gullible into believing that there is hope without a savior. Pray on! The biblical plan laid out does'nt lie.
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Well Op....the world is always changing.
you don't plant a seed and then scream at it the next day for not turning into a rose, do you....
?
these things take time to unfold & grow.
no right or wrong in any of it, as I see...
yes, haven't christians & new ager (nothing new about it) been doing it for centuries, by the millions?
I think there is so much expecation on what 'peace' is supposed to look like. Do you know, just for you? (besides what you were told by another or a book)

ha...I find it funny that a meditation on peace could somehow be taken as satanic? What the hell does that mean?
No peace, let's just live in fear, cuz fear and judgment are the norm.
As for the whole fire the grid thing...I'll take the christian AND new age (What I mean with New age is- Know thy self) approach and just say....
"peace be with you"

sorry for being so satanic dude.
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YOu know what the irony is dont you OP.....the "new age" people can love you but you cant love them ......Now who is the real follower of God ? You OP have hate in your heart.

And the world will be changed no matter what. It will happen. No way to stop it what so ever.

Peace and love will always win in the end. 100000000 percent of the time peace and love will always win....people of this world are sick and tired of war. All war religions have seen their last days.
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Amen, brother.
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YOu know what the irony is dont you OP.....the "new age" people can love you but you cant love them ......Now who is the real follower of God ? You OP have hate in your heart.

And the world will be changed no matter what. It will happen. No way to stop it what so ever.

Peace and love will always win in the end. 100000000 percent of the time peace and love will always win....people of this world are sick and tired of war. All war religions have seen their last days.
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point well taken, my point is that as a GOD-CHRIST believer, and not a human religion believer, you can change yourself for the better anytime your ready, the world and humanity unfortunately we can't (although we must certainly try) as individuals we can change our lives and spread the hope for others to see, and why is it that NEW-AGERS can't understand YOUR IN A RELIGION, you just can't see it though, I can see it clearly.

DON’T Fire the Grid

by Engtovo Bhodsvatan
July 13th, 2007 · 7 Comments

DON’T Fire the Grid

Let me tell you why. The fire the grid campaign is another agenda by the dark forces and there is ample evidence of this. In general, global meditations of all kinds are created with good intentions and people participate with a desire for positive change on the planet. However, most people are unaware of the workings of energy, even the energy of their own bodies, let alone the energies of group consciousness, the energies of the earth, and yes the energy manipulation abilities of the dark forces of planet earth. The average Joe participant in a global meditation ASSUMES that the energy he has offered into the meditation has gone to the greater good, to love and light, to peace and higher vibration, but the truth of the matter is, this energy more often than not is abducted, so to speak and used for a much different agenda. You see when we join energies, we are indeed very powerful. The problem is there are so few people on the planet knowledgeable enough to wield this group power we create to be used for the intended purpose. Unfortunately most of the beings with this knowledge are dark beings.

The reason? They have been controlling the world for a long time and controlling what we learn and believe. Only a few people tread the inner path far enough to gain the same level of knowledge on working with large amounts of energy as the masters of dark forces who carefully pass the information along among them selves to select initiates that are trained from childhood.

In essence we meditate and turn this power over, not knowing or caring who it is being turned over to. Many people believe the Ascended Masters are handling it. But it is power of earthly beings with form and we must handle our own power, Ascended Beings in spirit do not have permission to interfere in the affairs of man. There are Ascended beings on earth with form, some of us are aware of this, some are not, they are called Dharljas, (less than 200 of them) but they also cannot interfere and simply take this power to apply our intent. We would, as a whole, have to ask them to take the power from a particular meditation and they would have to AGREE to do so, as they cannot be responsible for all the people of the earth. This is universal law. The problem is the beings of love respect and work within universal law and the beings of darkness do whatever they want and do not abide by universal laws. The end result is every time the powers of darkness need an infusion of our energy to continue to maintain their veil of ignorance over us. They “inspire” some good intentioned but open and unprotected person to bring up the next big global meditation and we freely give them out power.

What a great con they have going and we keep participating because we are desperate for change, for love, for peace, for the world to make sense to our hearts.

This particular meditation fire the grid is an especially slick production. The open person to “inspire”, is a woman people relate to, a woman whose life sucked so immensely that any improvement would be momentous to her, leading her to have great passion for the cause that would change her life. Her story is an emotional one and she is real in her sharing of the story, her life has been changed. The agenda however is clearly available upon scrutiny, although this is one of the better presentations I’ve seen in a long time.

The way in which the dark energies work their agendas is consistent, they take things that are truth and that are important to us and they make them the center point of the particular “project” and they weave them together in ways that we are used to, and relate to. Then they insert small aspects of their real plan, right in the middle of two really big emotional core positive truthful issues so that we go from the emotion of the one positive point to the next point ignoring the part in the middle we should be scrutinizing. The metaphysical movement of the early century was infiltrated and used in this way becoming the New Age movement. At the beginning it was about 90 percent basic metaphysical principals and 10 percent their agenda, but as time has gone by, almost nothing in the current New Age movement can be trusted.

Some uses of this technique are so badly done that they are hilarious to read by people who are aware. Others are quite well woven. In the early 90’s the Ashtar Command had some well written propaganda that many people integrated into their belief system and still hold onto today. The Ashtar Command are in fact, a group of dark entities. They have no ships and are a complete fabrication of the illusion put upon us. They created the fear agenda of the earth changes, which are simply a natural process of the planet and started the promises of being saved in ships and the ET contact that the dark forces planned to use to force us through the fear of space invaders into a global government. These techniques have been used with lies to convince even the most die hard conspiracy buffs to believe we are in imminent ET danger. Here is a news flash, the reptilians and the greys are not ETs. They were in fact created right here on earth and share earth human DNA and animal DNA from, animals currently alive and extinct. True ETs work with the universal law of non interference and would in fact not have the knowledge to leave their own planets if they were not in harmony with the universal.

The reason the reptilians and greys can screw with humans and this world we live in is because they are earthlings! During the times of earth changes past, when we have lost our technological knowledge they retained theirs and used it against us. They aligned them selves with the dark forces and it has been earth civil spiritual war every since. The truth of the matter is, they hate themselves and want to be fully human as they are not in an image the Creator brought forth, but an image brought forth by the ignorance of human interference, thinking we had mastery over the Creation process, this is why they hate humans, this time it was them that believed they had mastery over the Creation process. But like the earth all things seek homeostasis and Divine Principle of life will give all things rebirth.

The concept of ascension was also high jacked early on by the dark forces, using these same techniques. They used the popularity of channeling to accomplish this. There are people who are actually channeling (communicating) with spirit beings of light, but most channelers are just people who were open to receive information input into their mind. Some of this is accomplished through spiritual techniques some of it is accomplished through the use of technology. A key to this manipulation is that these people all channel the same entities and offer the same message, at times almost word for word. St. Germaine, & Archangel Michael are two of the favorites. The reality is there is no reason for everyone to talk to the same entities, we each have our own guide and angel, if you are talking to spirit those two beings and your own higher self is who you should be talking to. No one else should have contact without the permission of your life guide. Now the disinformation spread by these fake channels (who completely believe in what they are doing) is considered common truth thus strengthening the veil, that keeps us in ignorance.

What this current group of dark entities has done with Shelly Yates of fire the grid, is one of the better uses of this technique. She believes it all, so on the conscious level you hear truth from her, she is compelling and you want to believe her, it is altruistic, it speaks to the part of the heart that believes in the inherent good in people, but pay attention to some of the details.

First there is no definition of the grid, or what firing the grid means, and exactly what grid as there are in fact thousands. As a person who’s whole life purpose is working with grids this is an over sight beyond measure. The one description in the nine part video on youtube.com is that the earth’s field is made of little hexagons, smaller versions of the personal field of each individual. This was one WAKE UP moment while watching the video! This is absolutely false. The closest thing we could come to that description is the human group consciousness and while it affects those of us here on earth, it is a human grid not an earth grid. That group consciousness grid is the one that is veiled by the dark forces so that we humans have a difficult time tapping into truth, and moving our personal consciousness beyond the limited belief of the whole as instilled by the mind programming from birth by the powers in control. That is not now, nor has it ever been an earth grid.

There are several earth grids and they do play a significant role in group meditations because we use our bodies to give and receive energies and we use the earth and her leylines to do so from body to body and the group consciousness transfers energies from soul to the whole. When we are together in group we often join hands to transfer the energies to one another when we cannot be in the same place we use the body of our earth mother to join with us. It is like she has millions of hands that reach out where there is a gap between us that needs to be bridged. Humans have always connected their own personal grids with the earth grids in various ways. This is in fact the number one battlefield between the workers of the creator and the dark forces. The dark forces knowing the general public has lost this knowledge set up grids within sections of the earth grid they use to control us. They did so with permanent physical expressions at key power spots, one such example is the Washington Memorial obelisk. This holds a point of a power grid that was formed with the early government of the United States. I have spent years tearing apart these grids that do not belong here, or in the case of ones anchored in a permanent structure we find ways to transform the energy then take the grid and integrate it into love and it becomes one of our grids to empower the whole instead of one of their ways to disempower the whole. I am going to get back to grids in a little bit but I want to go back to some detail on the fire the grid event.

Here are a couple examples of the technique discussed as used in the fire the grid video of Shelly.

Example one

Emotional core positive truthful issue:

Shelly being enveloped in great love in the car on the way to Montreal and having to pull over weeping (very emotional)

Disinformation packaged in the middle

You can use the energy to heal a dying boy, you can use the same energy to heal a dying planet. This one phrase hooks us into one great fear that our planet is dying, or that we are killing her, and it ties into our overall knowing that the situation on the planet seems to be hopeless (ie dying) You have to stop and back off from the emotions this evokes and bring forth critical thinking. Our planet is not now nor was she ever dying! We do not need to save her the way the little boy was saved. Many of us have long had inside us this desperate feeling of needing to save the planet. But that is multifaceted; one part is the mind control programming, one part is many of us were incarnating on the planet that was destroyed, where the asteroid belt is now and have unresolved feeling about that, and one part is knowing that we currently have the same technology to destroy this planet in the same way. But this planet is not sick or dying! What we humans have put upon her is capable of killing humans and animals, it’s not good we have to stop, but it doesn’t even compare to a good case of the flu to her. She will go on with or without us as long as we don’t implode her.

Emotional core positive truthful issue:

Getting validation finally through the event that leads to meeting Dr. Steven Greer (also very emotional to get validation of something you want to believe but fear)

Example Two

Emotional core positive truthful issue:

Food, water and shelter for every person on the earth no matter what, not based on economics ( a huge emotional plea for any of us with a heart)

Disinformation packaged in the middle

We will have a global council ruling and controlling the money that will no longer go to little charities but will come to the one big charity to feed and house everyone.

HELLO!

Are you paying attention yet? Global council of who? Who do you trust with the trillions that would be required to do this work. Sounds like global government to me, same old agenda different face. After all, can this one altruistic charitable organization be expected to wade through the red tape of almost 200 individual governments to do its important work. I know lots of people that I trust and love and respect, but give the group of them trillions of dollars to help the needy in any way they want, and then add in the influence of the dark forces that would then be exerted upon them even in the best of scenarios no mortal could hold that power with integrity, in the current world model.

Emotional core positive truthful issue:

The concept that the indigo children will take over in 2012 and do all the real work ( in other words just meditate now, and that all that is required of you, whew what a relief, we can have that over with by next week)

This second example has a trick in the second emotional core, because it includes truth and disinformation so if you question at all, you may disregard this statement but keep the global rule part presented above it. This second core says there are indigo children, which is true, and plays on our knowledge that 2012 is an important time which we also know to be true. The lie is that the indigo children will just take over and all we have to do is get through this fire the grid meditation and then dump the responsibility on them. She then further goes on to say that there are billions of 15 year old indigos who will be able to vote in 2012.

SAY WHAT?

Even if she misspoke and meant to say millions, vote? Where? The U.S.? Are we the key to the world domination plan here in the U.S.? Not every country lets 18 year olds vote, nor does it makes sense that she tells us the indigos think differently than we do, but they are just going to change everything by voting in the same system. Ummm. I think changing by vote, would require candidates to vote for, that are not part of the dark agenda, and a voting system not controlled by the dark agenda’s cash.

Its also absurd to anyone who is aware of the higher vibration people being born on the planet for the time of transition, that they are all miraculously 15. The indigos as they have been called have been coming for quite some time, some are around 50 and they were a core of the anti Vietnam war movement.

2012 is important because it is a rebirth point for the earth, the beginning a new cycle. All things have rebirth points; humans have the obvious rebirth point of reincarnation, getting a new body. But within this life we have the rebirth point of the body every seven years. As we move closer to ascension and activate various energies our rebirth point increases in frequency. This is often referred to as the quickening or the awakening. As the earth nears her rebirth point it creates a vibrational influence that affects all life and makes activating higher vibrational frequencies within us easier, another fact the dark forces want to keep from us.

The desperation to maintain control and keep the veil intact through the 2012 rebirth is the obsession of the dark forces. It is a war they have long since lost, but they are determined to continue on in the attempt to take their stranglehold of soul slavery into the next millennia. All their efforts are being thwarted day by day and they are at their wits end, so to speak. This is an excerpt from a previous blog entry that then ties into the fire the grid manipulation.

July 7, 2007 - Every year in July the power elite do ceremony at the Bohemian Grove in northern California, these ceremonies have included human sacrifice and are attended by well known people from around the world. This is a boy’s only club, making it clear that even when women are in power in the world their power only goes so far, and the big boys are calling the shots, or… were calling the shots!The day after the summer solstice this year a group of grid workers were able to dismantle the grids of the grove, which would prevent the energy of their ceremony from being spread around the world. We knew this would lead them to take some desperate measures, as they believe the grove ceremonies are what allow them to remain in power here in the United States. We waited, watched, and prepared for all contingencies as July drew near and they would have to take some sort of action before the ceremonies began.Today was the day they unveiled their new plan to spread the energies, they tapped the 7-7-7 ceremonies and music celebrations for climate change (an illuminati created issue unto itself) creating person to person grids instead of planetary grids. They put key spiritually powerful people into these locations. Some consciously knew what they were doing others were people who are unaware they were open to manipulation. They intended to use this unified focus on the planet to send an energy line to the key people who would then connect it to others open in the moment to the cause and they would be sending energy to family and friends in their prayers and it would continue on that way. This plan however has been thwarted and stopped the energy lines to the key people preempted and there is no avenue for the grove ceremony energies to be spread in the world.Note : When I say the climate change thing is an illuminati issue, it is because the whole global warming hype is their attempt to convince us we need one global government to save the planet. Global warming is NOT human created! We are in a natural cycle of the earth and sun in that respect, and in fact a universal cycle is in play at this time as well. That does not mean we have not done awful things to the earth and need to stop, but global climate change would be here even if we were still tribal nomads with no technology whatsoever.Incidentally this is not 7-7-7 at all ,because numerology doesn’t work that way, you have to add the 2 of 2007 and it is 7-7-9. 7-7-7 was two years ago ,the same was true when people did all the 3-3-3 and 4-4-4 crap, discernment is the biggest key of any spiritual path

On the 8th of July these same grid workers were able to pull from the earth ancient conglomerate entities that were embedded into the earth, like a dark entity will take over a human body and embed into the heart chamber, making it difficult for healers who know how to do entity detachment to remove, (as most entity attachment is just that, attachment to the outer grids of the human). These conglomerate entities have been in the earth for thousands of years and the dark forces used them to anchor the veil and hold key points in the grids they control. This one aspect of the veil was released with these unnatural entities being returned to light source. The first result of this work occurred on July 9th when I found the protection grid that surrounds my residence surrounded by earthbound spirits.

When these conglomerate entities were no longer holding the invisible dimension of the earth in their control, masses of earthbound entities realized they were not where they belonged, and were naturally drawn to grids created in love seeking a way to return to their higher selves. The grid workers quickly created tunnels of light for them to return to spirit. Thousands returned home. This was to the dismay of the dark forces, who regularly use the earthbound to do their dirty work. It serves their agenda to keep as many as possible earthbound because a higher self cannot ascend in spirit without the return of all parts of it’s being to the whole. Nor can any part of their whole ascend on the earth to become a Dharlja if one part is trapped earthbound. This changes the whole game, and they know it.

The Bohemian Grove ceremony is a 17 day ceremony, so while they are still there plotting and planning in desperation, things continue to look more and more bleak for them, due to the hard work of a small group of people who have dedicated their lives to defeating the dark agenda, by learning the ancient knowledge and taking control of the grids and retuning them to Divine Principal.

Their next plan while they are still at the grove … To use FIRE THE GRID on 7-17 to send out their negative ceremonial energies to control the planet. Is this where you want your light, love, and peace energies to go? 7-17-2007 was chosen for specific reasons. For one, the dark forces knew they would be in the grove ceremony, and would be able to use the energies as they chose to further their agenda. They also love to manipulate the numbers. In this case it is the 17th and they have a 17 day ceremony. 17 is an 8 in numerology, which is infinity, the symbol that Shelly was told to tattoo onto her body. 8 is the number of abundant prosperity which is the dark force obsession, controlling the world’s money to keep us in slavery. And the mathematical equations of all of Creation are equations that go on infinitely, and they want to be in control for eternity.

They chose the 11:11 time, as always, because 11 is a numerology master number the number of ascended beings, whose energy and power they would like to have, but that cannot manifest in darkness. All the 11:11 events have been dark force orchestrated. If someone decided that 5:26 was a sacred time and got it into the group consciousness you would find yourself looking at the clock all the time when it was 5:26! Pure manipulation. The total number for the date is a 6 this is a key number to grid workers. Because it represents the Enochian star (aka star of David). This is the sacred symbol of the Order of Enoch, who are the universal grid workers. This symbol has been high jacked like so many others, over the thousands of years of dark energy abuse. It represents the concept of “as above so below” It is how they create the veil of control over us. They created the grid of control above and anchored it to the earth and we below act within this limited view of our world, and don’t see our Divine inheritance and true power.

The pentacle is the symbol of the Dharljas, the humans the dark forces despise the most, which is why they turned it upside down and made it their symbol of evil. We can destroy the veil, but we must stop empowering it first, by turning our power over. The key to global change is changing ourselves as individuals. We don’t have the power to change other people. We may inspire them, but we cannot change them. We must each raise our own vibration to uplift the whole. What would happen if we instantly and massively raised the vibration of the collective consciousness? Many of us would experience amazing bliss and joy, but the lowest vibration people on the planet would be unable to handle it gracefully and would likely act out, creating even more horrible atrocities in the world. If the Dharljas step out into public and show the true Divine Inheritance that is the birthright of us all this could also be an unfortunate side effect, because the group consciousness would be significantly heightened immediately. We must unravel the veil and remove the power of the dark forces permanently and we have all the elements in hand to do so in the next five months.

The time to step up with this work is now, because with all the energetic and grid avenues to remain in power thwarted, the powers of darkness are planning to turn to technology that will create earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The purpose is to create worldwide destruction before the 2012 rebirth. This will give them the global government they want. They will then claim it was all natural, and they are just trying to save the poor suffering people with their slavery.

Responses to quotes off the reverse speech site (linked below) discussing fire the grid, are included here to add clarity on the nature of grids. [link to www.evpreversespeaking.com]

“The grid that the grid workers are talking about firing up is in fact what has been put in place to blast the harmful net out of existence” Sandi

There is no grid that has the purpose of blasting the harmful net (veil) out of existence. It is not possible to blast it out of existence with a grid. It is in fact, a grid unto itself that does not belong around the earth. To remove grids they have to be unraveled and disassembled and like the proverbial giant roll of string you have to find the end of the string to even begin to unravel the ball. Individuals have found this and done the unraveling personally but they cannot do it for everyone. It is the hundredth monkey principle. For the veil to fall a large enough number of us must each individually unravel the ball until the group consciousness is imbued with the knowledge of how to do it readily. At that point, it cannot be maintained for anyone any longer, and the whole is freed.

“But the net is the net and our prison” Peggy

The veil keeps our perceptions limited and keeps us from knowing that we are divine and empowered, which is how the dark ones want it. But the term net used in reversed speech can be used for any grid, because the correct sounds for the word grid, in reversals are not there, net is the common term. Because the work done by most doing reverse speech is to root out the negative agendas of the dark ones, they are often reversed speaking about various aspects of the veil a form of a grid to limit us. As well as discussing various aspects of the grids that we are attempting to take from them to use for love or the grids they are attempting to take from us. However within each and every one of us is the power to pierce the veil, that is what they don’t want us to know. If enough of us understood that, the veil would fall and be gone forever! It requires our participation to continue, these global meditations are the very thing they use to keep the veil strong.

“A grid is time/space. Light is not; we have no real common language apart from mathematics to describe light” Spooky

A grid can have time space elements but there are in fact no human words to explain all the aspects that grids are. All physical matter is made up of grids as well as the things we consider non physical, Grids are in fact made of light, divine love, (which is an aspect of God and is not what we understand as human love) thought, and intent. The light that is used is not the visible light that we perceive and quantify in the world. It emits a brightness of a sort to the soul/spirit and the visual light that we get in our minds that is not of the physical eyes. Mathematics in fact is the language of grids but the specific mathematics have not been applied by mortals. If humans had this particular set of mathematical principals (and the understanding therein), what we consider physical laws like gravity and aspects of physics could be obscured at will, which is one of the many things a Dharlja can do.

“There is no positive/light energy grid nor negative energy grid, just the net. No one at this time gets out of here dead or alive for that matter” atomic240

The grids are made and have intent, but the positive or negative aspect of them depends on who is in control of any given grid. If the dark forces have control of a grid, they use it to send negative energy out to all it affects. In fact people do get out both dead an alive. The veil is difficult and painful to pierce but it is done by those who ascend with their last potential/aspect returning to spirit in completion and ascending, and with those who stand forth which is ascending on the earth, becoming a Dharlja. Dharljas can also become Avatars which means they can disassemble the atoms of their bodies and return to spirit and reassemble them and return to the planet at any time. The term Avatar has come to have an incorrect meaning over the centuries in the east and is currently applied to respected teachers that are not in fact Avatars.

Ascension on the earth (becoming a Dharlja) is not leaving the planet. No ships, no ETs or changing dimensions, the 3D, 4D, 5D stuff is just more new age dark energy terminology that is meaningless. The Dharljas are right here with us. If they want they can adjust their vibration not to be seen but they are in the same dimension as us. If you live in a crowded city, you may have walked right past one in the street and never known it.

“Can a being of such darkness create the feeling of being a being of light? And how do you know?” Deann

Yes, and here is why. First of all original source and the nature of all beings is Divine Principle, no matter how far an entity has strayed, that is still within them and they can use it. Secondly, there is the perspective aspect. They consciously chose a woman who had known no real love and attention in her life and chose her for a task. Given this other worldly attention in itself was an overwhelming feeling she had never experienced. In essence she was being told “you matter to us” a message she never received in life. The other aspect of perception is that this entity could still have been a higher vibration than her at that moment, considering that he has an conscious knowledge of how to heal the child, he is one of the more sophisticated dark entities. Many of these beings went very far on a spiritual path and then consciously chose to align with darkness. His vibration being still higher than hers and embracing her would have been a feeling of love and bliss to her.

She readily admits to being on Prozac depressed for 20 years. These kind of mind altering substances are used to dumb us down and keep us tied to the veil. They lower our vibration the longer they are used. This is true of all mind altering substances, including alcohol. This is why the dark forces love these substances and they love us to indulge in them. If they can make the world so stressful that we want more and more of them all the better for their agenda. Anyone wanting to ascend and pierce the veil will at some point have to cease all use of mind altering substances. Being on a mind altering substance makes you open to dark manipulation through you, as you are unable to tend your own energies and protection while under the influence. This further complicates global meditations if participants are in any way under the influence.

“if you are looking for negative then that is what you will find” Deann

This statement is right out of the dark energy handbook, classic new age propaganda, it is one of the ways they keep us in line by saying we don’t have the right to question and to scrutinize. That if we question we are being negative and judgmental, when in fact, we are attempting to discern, which is our responsibility as creator beings, who are fully responsible for all we create and co create in this world.

“She never said anything about focusing the energy of the grid anyway. What she said was to do something that makes you happy, mediate or pray for one hour on that day at that hour for the healing of the planet. That’s all” Deann

Exactly the point she never said anything about focusing the energy!!!!!! Why the hell not? If she is planning a global meditation she has the responsibility to know where the energy is going, how it is going there and why. She is essentially asking millions of people to trust her and she has no idea what will happen to the energy. That’s because the dark being didn’t tell her they already have a dark plan for the energy she will bring them through her “project”. That plan, continued global slavery. This is a simple 1+1 equation.

Think about this:

1 global slavery agenda

+ 1 focus on what makes you happy

= global slavery makes us happy!

That’s what we are giving them by FIRING THE GRID

DON’T DO IT!

Engtovo Bhodsvatan - July 12, 2007

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Well for those of us who don't believe in Satan, demons, and other such rubbish, it makes perfect sense.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Interesting how much bad 'spiritual' and religious people see when people decide to meditate or focus on positive for 1 hour. Makes you think...
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It is Pagan-speak for a Pagan ritual that may open the very Gates Of Hell.
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change is gonna come ...that is the bottom line and all parts involved in it (for whatever motivation) are part of how it was suppose to happen anyway. God is in charge of all things. When i say God i refer to God in the total definition of the word. ....God is an extremely large definition but in all irony it is also the smallest....Can be broken down to one word ....LOVE.....But if you were to stretch the definition of God out as far as it could be then it would go on forever. IT is a LARGE definition. As love is large. So God is a paradox and an irony and a contradiction and more real than all the ground in the world. Because the ground is part of it. All of this existence is part of God. A part and apart. Contradiction and irony and very real.

change is coming folks. As the numbers of human beings finally seeing how things are put together grows then change shall grow....SIGNS IN HEAVENS AND EARTH ...LOOK FOR THEM !!!!!!!!!! ALL THINGS WORK IN UNISON !!!!!!!
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Well for those of us who don't believe in Satan, demons, and other such rubbish, it makes perfect sense.
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I have to agree.

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