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Oz feds land grab from Indigenous Communities

 
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The Oztralian Government intervention in Indigenous communities has left me some what with a bitter taste in my mouth.
Let me say from the outset abuse of children whether sexual or otherwise is a horrendous crime and the perpetrators should be bought to book. This dastardly act is happening all around Australia regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, or skin tone. It seems more prevalent in lower socioeconomic and disadvantaged communities. Standards of education, health, and employment prospects may also be contributing factors. The use by the federal political executive of such an emotive subject to trample all over Northern Territories Indigenous communities rights to determine security on their lands, is a blatant land grab and reeks of colonialism at it's worst. The tactic of pushing other political hot news stories back onto page one of the media ensures the general public is less inclined to ask questions of the government’s motives. The denigration of health, education, welfare and the basic living standards of Indigenous peoples here in this country as well as overseas by our Australian governments, as well as other so called industrialised, democratic regimes will eventually lead to a third world class citizen status. This mockery of a parliament passing such draconian legislation sends the wrong signal not only to our political detractors but also to other governments bent on destroying basic human rights for not only indigenous communities but eventually all complacent silent majorities.
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They can enjoy it while it lasts.

Some of them may be bringing rope into the court room when the Howard government is tried for treason, treachery, fraud by deception & terrorism on it's own people.
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07/18/2007 06:42 AM
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They've done more than that.


The industrial relations legislation of INDIVIDUAL workplace agreements (putting individuals at a disadvantage to employers)


The antiterrorist legislation where they've locked up and confiscated the passport of a doctor whose only crime was lending a phone card to his cousin LAST YEAR, BEFORE any suspicion was brought on his cousin. There was no way the man could have forseen the circumstances!



Items like that are punitive and without justification.
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The Oztralian Government intervention in Indigenous communities has left me some what with a bitter taste in my mouth.
Let me say from the outset abuse of children whether sexual or otherwise is a horrendous crime and the perpetrators should be bought to book. This dastardly act is happening all around Australia regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, or skin tone. It seems more prevalent in lower socioeconomic and disadvantaged communities. Standards of education, health, and employment prospects may also be contributing factors. The use by the federal political executive of such an emotive subject to trample all over Northern Territories Indigenous communities rights to determine security on their lands, is a blatant land grab and reeks of colonialism at it's worst. The tactic of pushing other political hot news stories back onto page one of the media ensures the general public is less inclined to ask questions of the government’s motives. The denigration of health, education, welfare and the basic living standards of Indigenous peoples here in this country as well as overseas by our Australian governments, as well as other so called industrialised, democratic regimes will eventually lead to a third world class citizen status. This mockery of a parliament passing such draconian legislation sends the wrong signal not only to our political detractors but also to other governments bent on destroying basic human rights for not only indigenous communities but eventually all complacent silent majorities.
 Quoting: tango mango



Transfer land controlled by all Australians to a handful of corrupt "aboriginals" who genetically speaking, are about as aboriginal as your average Swede, who in turn sell the rights to mine it to crown-owned mining companies like Rio Tinto.

Been happening for centuries all over the new world. Everybody loses except the Crown. And we have individuals like yourself protecting the scam with your dishonest "aboriginal land rights" tirades.

Traditional aboriginal culture died decades ago, sadly, but they are hardly the only group currently being oppressed as posters above have outlined.
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The Coward Government is using the current manufactured charges against the Indian born doctor Haneef to keep the headlines conjested with distracting debate on the one hand, and keeping the proles in the dark about their nefarious schemes, and on the other hand ensuring that terrorism is foremost in the public mind, while leaking damaging false allegations about the Doctor. I think there are several reasons why they used the seldomnly invoked "bad charactor" clause in the immigration act to imprison him in a detension centre: firstly, ensuring that an unbiased and impartial jury basis for a fair trial is now all but no-existent. Secondly, keeping him away from the media, and using it offensively against his defense team. And finally, sending a message that the presumption of innocence is a farce when you hold a political agenda card in your hand. The federal police use of SECRET INFORMATION i.e, uncontestable and non-reportable-smacks of NSA/CIA national interest camouflage used to start wars in foreign lands.....
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Haven't you useless, loud-mouthed, lager-swilling cunts wiped out those pesky Abos yet?

Useless bastards!

lol
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The last "intelligent" post was mine.
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Haven't you useless, loud-mouthed, lager-swilling cunts wiped out those pesky Abos yet?

Useless bastards!

lol
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We know, "Ozzie Bloke".
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Haven't you useless, loud-mouthed, lager-swilling cunts wiped out those pesky Abos yet?

Useless bastards!

lol
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Our sights are set on the Queen of Cunts and her masonic minions.
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The last post was mine.
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No it wasn't, you Aussie Gyppo!

(Most Australians are Turd-World Gyppoes)!
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07/18/2007 07:16 AM
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The last post was mine.


No it wasn't, you Aussie Gyppo!

(Most Australians are Turd-World Gyppoes)!
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As a follow-up, if you're thinking of emigrating to the Antipodes, I would definitely recommend New Zealand over Australia.

Australia is like California and Nevada - A Mecca for Turd-World Gyppoes!

New Zealand is a vastly more civilized country, like Home Counties Britain in the 1950's and 60's.

Plus, NZ has a much nicer climate, and no horrifying, poisonous creatures that can fuck you up for life (if you survive the bite).

Oh, and NZ people are the finest people on Earth that you could ever hope to meet.

Australians are, for the most part, horrifying gyppoes that are best avoided, at all costs!

rofl
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The last post was mine.


No it wasn't, you Aussie Gyppo!

(Most Australians are Turd-World Gyppoes)!


As a follow-up, if you're thinking of emigrating to the Antipodes, I would definitely recommend New Zealand over Australia.

Australia is like California and Nevada - A Mecca for Turd-World Gyppoes!

New Zealand is a vastly more civilized country, like Home Counties Britain in the 1950's and 60's.

Plus, NZ has a much nicer climate, and no horrifying, poisonous creatures that can fuck you up for life (if you survive the bite).

Oh, and NZ people are the finest people on Earth that you could ever hope to meet.

Australians are, for the most part, horrifying gyppoes that are best avoided, at all costs!

rofl
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Good idea.
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The Coward Government is using the current manufactured charges against the Indian born doctor Haneef to keep the headlines conjested with distracting debate on the one hand, and keeping the proles in the dark about their nefarious schemes, and on the other hand ensuring that terrorism is foremost in the public mind, while leaking damaging false allegations about the Doctor. I think there are several reasons why they used the seldomnly invoked "bad charactor" clause in the immigration act to imprison him in a detension centre: firstly, ensuring that an unbiased and impartial jury basis for a fair trial is now all but no-existent. Secondly, keeping him away from the media, and using it offensively against his defense team. And finally, sending a message that the presumption of innocence is a farce when you hold a political agenda card in your hand. The federal police use of SECRET INFORMATION i.e, uncontestable and non-reportable-smacks of NSA/CIA national interest camouflage used to start wars in foreign lands.....
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I have imformation that the new QI tower on the Gold Coast was a target like 9/11 as a distraction and the CIA and IMF where right beind it to stop Nesara being told just like on the morning of 9/11. I got this message during a remote view dream with Allen Greenspan. The FEDERAL POLICE here have goofed it with a cover up! With my higher consciousness I can read inside the matrix. I know more than most coming from my higherself on a Starship with the Ashtar Command in the 5th Dimension. I have had warnings to every terrorist attack. I now about the IMF collaspe coming, that will bring the announcement of Nesara Law, and all these darks pricks in the corporate world are going to prison for fraud.
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A kiwi, where about's brother?
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Someone's pushing back in the Haneef case.


The truth, the whole truth: Haneef’s barrister defends release of transcript
'Yesterday The Australian ran a story based on the leak of a transcript of a full taped interview with Indian doctor, Mohamed Haneef. Later in the day, Dr Haneef’s barrister, Stephen Keim, revealed that he was responsible for passing on the transcript.

The Howard Government is not happy about this, and both the Attorney General and the Prime Minister have condemned the action. Stephen Keim, though, has argued, convincingly I think (though lawyers feel free to chip in), that he was perfectly entitled to reveal the information in full:[/color

"Mr Ruddock said he would investigate what sanctions were possible against Mr Keim, but the Brisbane barrister said the outrage was selective in that neither the Government nor the AFP had condemned several leaks of material damaging to Dr Haneef. “My client has been subject to a barrage of leaks,” Mr Keim said.

He said he was bemused by the assertions of Mr Keelty in circumstances where an aggressive campaign of leaking, selectively and misleadingly, from the same document and other allegedly secret documentation held by law-enforcement agencies had been perpetrated in recent weeks.

“These leaks could only have been motivated by a desire by those perpetrating them to suggest to the Australian public that the case against Dr Haneef was stronger than the Australian Federal Police, through their counsel, the commonwealth DPP, had been able to put before the court,” Mr Keim said.

“I challenge the Prime Minister, his ministers, Mr Keelty and the police to produce the legal basis which would make anything I’ve done illegal.

“They know where I am. If they think I’ve done anything wrong, they can come and take me away.”

Mr Keim said that under the Crimes Act, the transcript was his client’s property and the AFP and courts had no power to direct him what to do with it. He defended the release of the record of interview.

“This information is not secret information. This information belongs to my client,” Mr Keim said.


The reason the government is upset seems to have less to do with the legality of the release of the interview transcript and more to do with losing control of the politics of the issue.'


'The chairman of the criminal law section of the Queensland Law Society says Stephen Keim acted lawfully when he released transcripts of terrorism suspect Mohamed Haneef’s interview with police.'


But what would he know, eh?

'Chairman Sean Reidy says Mr Keim is a lawyer of the highest integrity and the attack appears to be vicious and personal.

“This is exactly what happened in the Tampa case where the lawyers there were personally attacked by the Government,” Mr Reidy said.

“You have to have a great deal of concern for the administration of justice when in high-profile cases lawyers are being personally attacked.

“To describe this information as a leak is to completely misdescribe it.

“He has released information that is effectively owned by his client and it is information that ... part of it is in the public domain and will be shortly in the public domain.”



The Tampa case was during an election campaign, and this one is too.
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The link [link to blogs.news.com.au]
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as far as i know, killing an australian aboriginal was legal untill 1927

australia belongs to the indigenous dreamers!
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Someone's pushing back in the Haneef case.


The truth, the whole truth: Haneef’s barrister defends release of transcript
'Yesterday The Australian ran a story based on the leak of a transcript of a full taped interview with Indian doctor, Mohamed Haneef. Later in the day, Dr Haneef’s barrister, Stephen Keim, revealed that he was responsible for passing on the transcript.

The Howard Government is not happy about this, and both the Attorney General and the Prime Minister have condemned the action. Stephen Keim, though, has argued, convincingly I think (though lawyers feel free to chip in), that he was perfectly entitled to reveal the information in full:[/color

"Mr Ruddock said he would investigate what sanctions were possible against Mr Keim, but the Brisbane barrister said the outrage was selective in that neither the Government nor the AFP had condemned several leaks of material damaging to Dr Haneef. “My client has been subject to a barrage of leaks,” Mr Keim said.

He said he was bemused by the assertions of Mr Keelty in circumstances where an aggressive campaign of leaking, selectively and misleadingly, from the same document and other allegedly secret documentation held by law-enforcement agencies had been perpetrated in recent weeks.

“These leaks could only have been motivated by a desire by those perpetrating them to suggest to the Australian public that the case against Dr Haneef was stronger than the Australian Federal Police, through their counsel, the commonwealth DPP, had been able to put before the court,” Mr Keim said.

“I challenge the Prime Minister, his ministers, Mr Keelty and the police to produce the legal basis which would make anything I’ve done illegal.

“They know where I am. If they think I’ve done anything wrong, they can come and take me away.”

Mr Keim said that under the Crimes Act, the transcript was his client’s property and the AFP and courts had no power to direct him what to do with it. He defended the release of the record of interview.

“This information is not secret information. This information belongs to my client,” Mr Keim said.


The reason the government is upset seems to have less to do with the legality of the release of the interview transcript and more to do with losing control of the politics of the issue.'


'The chairman of the criminal law section of the Queensland Law Society says Stephen Keim acted lawfully when he released transcripts of terrorism suspect Mohamed Haneef’s interview with police.'


But what would he know, eh?

'Chairman Sean Reidy says Mr Keim is a lawyer of the highest integrity and the attack appears to be vicious and personal.

“This is exactly what happened in the Tampa case where the lawyers there were personally attacked by the Government,” Mr Reidy said.

“You have to have a great deal of concern for the administration of justice when in high-profile cases lawyers are being personally attacked.

“To describe this information as a leak is to completely misdescribe it.

“He has released information that is effectively owned by his client and it is information that ... part of it is in the public domain and will be shortly in the public domain.”



The Tampa case was during an election campaign, and this one is too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 263392

The Howard Government isn't getting too many free kicks in this one since the presumption of innocence of Haneef was trampled on. Now the feds are backing off barrister Keim's challenge. They know that their leaking tactic has backfired and an appeal on grounds of the minister using the detention as a form of imprisonment looks likely to embarrass them more.
But concerning the op, the above posting although worthy of exposure in it's own right is just being used for deflecting attention away from the governments abandonment their duty of care with regard to equal rights for all Oztralians.
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Your point is taken, tango mango, and thanks.
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Transfer land controlled by all Australians to a handful of corrupt "aboriginals" who genetically speaking, are about as aboriginal as your average Swede, who in turn sell the rights to mine it to crown-owned mining companies like Rio Tinto.

Been happening for centuries all over the new world. Everybody loses except the Crown. And we have individuals like yourself protecting the scam with your dishonest "aboriginal land rights" tirades.

Traditional aboriginal culture died decades ago, sadly, but they are hardly the only group currently being oppressed as posters above have outlined.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266625

Corruption exists in every sector within every society but alas ac 266625 thinks that the majority, whom i might add, seldom ever constitutionally vote in said miscreants, should suffer the fell deeds of a bureaucracy hell bent on their destruction. These dispossessed people are enslaved by naysayers too gutless to redeem their own souls by speaking out when evil rears its ugly head.
Just because it's "been happening for centuries" doesn't make it just or to go unchallenged.
Even though the Northern Territory cultures may have been diminished as a result of the impact of us whitefella should we abandon principles of liberty and their freedom of expression?
Ac 266625 and I both live in societies accustom to the aggrandising effects of mammon and decadence. I have not perpetrated a scam nor do I protect one. The only scam here is denial of human rights by nefarious governments all around the world committing genocide with regard to inadequate health, welfare, and education resources for not only indigenous populations but all of us.
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'twas mine
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Keep sucking the Crown's dick. It would not surprise me if you worked for Rio Tinto.

As someone with close aboriginal relatives, I know the score far better than you. Aboriginal rights activists care about money and money alone - which is why you never have to look too far to see the filthy hand of the Crown or a Jew funding their cause. Those who live in aboriginal-only communities (the vast minority) and those that live in cities (the vast majority) do not want to return to their traditional hunter-gatherer lifestyle - one which could be EASILY accommodated if they wished to.

Therefore, they whore themselves for mammon as much as the non-aboriginals you decry.