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THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!!
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7/19/2007 10:16 AM
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Asian Parasite Killing Western Bees - Scientist
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SPAIN: July 19, 2007
MADRID - A parasite common in Asian bees has spread to Europe and the Americas and is behind the mass disappearance of honeybees in many countries, says a Spanish scientist who has been studying the phenomenon for years.
The culprit is a microscopic parasite called nosema ceranae said Mariano Higes, who leads a team of researchers at a government-funded apiculture centre in Guadalajara, the province east of Madrid that is the heartland of Spain's honey industry.
He and his colleagues have analysed thousands of samples from stricken hives in many countries.
"We started in 2000 with the hypothesis that it was pesticides, but soon ruled it out," he told Reuters in an interview on Wednesday.
Pesticide traces were present only in a tiny proportion of samples and bee colonies were also dying in areas many miles from cultivated land, he said.
They then ruled out the varroa mite, which is easy to see and which was not present in most of the affected hives.
For a long time Higes and his colleagues thought a parasite called nosema apis, common in wet weather, was killing the bees.
"We saw the spores, but the symptoms were very different and it was happening in dry weather too."
Then he decided to sequence the parasite's DNA and discovered it was an Asian variant, nosema ceranae. Asian honeybees are less vulnerable to it, but it can kill European bees in a matter of days in laboratory conditions.
"Nosema ceranae is far more dangerous and lives in heat and cold. A hive can become infected in two months and the whole colony can collapse in six to 18 months," said Higes, whose team has published a number of papers on the subject.
"We've no doubt at all it's nosema ceranae and we think 50 percent of Spanish hives are infected," he said.
Spain, with 2.3 million hives, is home to a quarter of the European Union's bees.
His team have also identified this parasite in bees from Austria, Slovenia and other parts of Eastern Europe and assume it has invaded from Asia over a number of years.
Now it seems to have crossed the Atlantic and is present in Canada and Argentina, he said. The Spanish researchers have not tested samples from the United States, where bees have also gone missing.
Treatment for nosema ceranae is effective and cheap -- 1 euro (US$1.4) a hive twice a year -- but beekeepers first have to be convinced the parasite is the problem.
Another theory points a finger at mobile phone aerials, but Higes notes bees use the angle of the sun to navigate and not electromagnetic frequencies.
Other elements, such as drought or misapplied treatments, may play a part in lowering bees' resistance, but Higes is convinced the Asian parasite is the chief assassin.
Story by Julia Hayley
REUTERS NEWS SERVICE
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 266625
7/19/2007 10:25 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
LOL - planetark |
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* life
User ID: 215827
7/19/2007 10:27 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Yea right ....this is because of genetic engineering and other forms of man manmade fuck ups. That is the real reason. Always blame it on nature. |
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China
User ID: 168282
7/19/2007 10:29 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Its the China problem again, they are attacking our food supply from every angle, domestic and remote supplies.
Lets nuke EM and be over with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 171492
7/19/2007 10:32 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Its the China problem again, they are attacking our food supply from every angle, domestic and remote supplies.
Lets nuke EM and be over with it. Quoting: China 168282
You could be right that they are doing it on purpose. But chances are that it's just cause it's a filthy third world country with a culture that has no respect for the land or animals or people for that matter. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19003
7/19/2007 10:40 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
asian parasite.
billions of them around...... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 258514
7/19/2007 10:51 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Yea right ....this is because of genetic engineering and other forms of man manmade fuck ups. That is the real reason. Always blame it on nature. Quoting: * life 215827
One thing is for sure. His explanation doesn't correlate with the fact that hives on organic farms were not affected in the die off. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 225190
7/19/2007 10:54 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
This is bullshit. No organic bee farmers have any hive losses. Plus there are no dead bees found. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 265729
7/19/2007 10:57 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Last week it was the cell towers killing them. |
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natural is best
User ID: 225551
7/19/2007 11:02 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
You guys beat me to it.
The organic bee farms are perfectly intact.
There are no missing bees and honey production is 'business as usual.'
The hives subjected to pesticide and/or genetic modifiers are the only ones that are dying.
Which is not surprising. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 259054
7/19/2007 11:15 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
It is because the bees are not drinking enough malt liquor son. They should drink more it makes you smarter. I love it. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2007 11:17 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
I thought it was all the cell phone use going on... What do I know. |
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Chef Ramen Noodle
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7/19/2007 11:23 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
I thought it was all the cell phone use going on... What do I know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69144
I thought the bee problem was from Monsanto and their genetically modifying ilk... What do I know. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269091
7/19/2007 11:33 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
The fact that organic farms are able to keep their bees may mean that other problems are appearing in the USA, or that blaming it on a single source may be incorrect. |
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H2O
User ID: 249596
7/19/2007 11:35 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
ONE THING YOU CAN BET ON IS THIS !
THEY WILL NEVER, EVER TELL THE TRUTH, ON ANY CONTROLLED MEDIA !
THE TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM, THEY, BOOT LICK TO KEEP THEIR MISERABLE JOBS,,
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The real truth is that GOD is sending a FAMINE, as HE said He would !
Get use to the idea That GOD, means what HE saids, and always fulfills what he said HE will do!
Ya, ya, I know what you faithless fools think about GOD, so save it, for the day of wrath, when the KING shows up to fix you're little red wagon.
Those of you who know the truth, Peace be with you.
But remember this, Joseph knew there was going to be a seven year famine, and so he planned for it.
Noah, knew the flood was coming so HE built the Ark, as he was commanded too.
What are you going to do, besides apathy.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 256130
7/19/2007 11:35 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG !!! It is the chemicals that more & more folks are spraying to beautify their lawns that's effecting the bees.
I know this for a fact as I was told so by a professional bee keeper who has special stuff he has to feed his bees to prevent the poisoning. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 266625
7/19/2007 11:35 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
I think the "organic bee farms are ok" is disinfo covering up the fact that magnetic grids by which bees navigate are being fucked up - probably by "they". |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2007 11:54 AM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
D'oh, I thought it was Homer with his sugar pile! :-) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269106
7/19/2007 12:11 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
You guys beat me to it.
The organic bee farms are perfectly intact.
There are no missing bees and honey production is 'business as usual.'
The hives subjected to pesticide and/or genetic modifiers are the only ones that are dying.
Which is not surprising. Quoting: natural is best 225551
Could the organic bee population have a stronger immune system? Just a question. |
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Prof-Rabbit
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7/19/2007 12:13 PM | |
[charlie]
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7/19/2007 12:15 PM
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You could be right that they are doing it on purpose. But chances are that it's just cause it's a filthy third world country with a culture that has no respect for the land or animals or people for that matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 171492
indeed, you could be looking at covert but deliberate acts of war...
but like i said before, it's a culture with at least 3500 years of written history while your own ancestors were likely still picking fleas out of each other's armpits and snacking on them...
what you see in the facade of communism today is nothing more than a cover.
don't let your ignorance and shortsightedness allow you to further underestimate an enemy you already can not contend with.
charlie don't surf!..
... Mitch. Nothing is ever simple. |
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deepend 
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7/19/2007 12:17 PM
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You guys beat me to it.
The organic bee farms are perfectly intact.
There are no missing bees and honey production is 'business as usual.'
The hives subjected to pesticide and/or genetic modifiers are the only ones that are dying.
Which is not surprising. Quoting: natural is best 225551
This is an excellent point. There have already been noticable changes in the honey. Honey is now genetically modified due to the GM crops. This would be huge if it could be proven. If someone were to prove that genetically modified crops are killing off the bees... the crops would no longer be considered inert by the FDA. It is just an incredibly dangerous experiment we are going through right now.
^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^ |
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eonwe
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7/19/2007 12:18 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
..zetas right again?  |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2007 12:21 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
just like madcow has nothing to do with rubbing pesticides down the spine of the cow to combat flies. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 269112
7/19/2007 12:24 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Ok, enough about bees and flowers. What do you all know about ants and the extratropical forests?
Any regular visitor at GLP knows that the end of the bees is correlated with the end of the flowering flora.
But what do you all know about ants and the extratropical forests?
In
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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eonwe
User ID: 269111
7/19/2007 12:26 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
this is what zetas had (it's some time) to say about bee's problem...i guess they came pretty close :
"For bees, several factors are affecting their ability to thrive. Their immune systems have been compromised by a mite, which is passed among the hives of the nation by the practice of hauling hives about for polination, cross country. This spread the mite, and is spreading several microbes too. The failure of the honey bee population to thrive is entirely a man-made problem. The answer is to isolate healthy hives, which will probably be done too late to affect the crops dependent upon these pollinators. Man has largely killed off the natural pollinators who could replace the honey bee by pesticides. Thus, in the short term, there will be crop shortages, another of our long ago predictions." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 266625
7/19/2007 12:28 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
Is the birds falling out of the sky phenomenon related? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 266625
7/19/2007 12:31 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
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You could be right that they are doing it on purpose. But chances are that it's just cause it's a filthy third world country with a culture that has no respect for the land or animals or people for that matter.
indeed, you could be looking at covert but deliberate acts of war...
but like i said before, it's a culture with at least 3500 years of written history while your own ancestors were likely still picking fleas out of each other's armpits and snacking on them...
what you see in the facade of communism today is nothing more than a cover.
don't let your ignorance and shortsightedness allow you to further underestimate an enemy you already can not contend with. Quoting: [charlie
Chinese chose "harmony and solidarity" over individualism 1000 years ago, stagnated and were overtaken.
Old habits die hard. Nothing has changed in their culture. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/19/2007 12:39 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
I wonder how much Monsanto paid for this report? |
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[charlie]
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7/19/2007 12:45 PM
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Chinese chose "harmony and solidarity" over individualism 1000 years ago, stagnated and were overtaken.
Old habits die hard. Nothing has changed in their culture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266625
and 'individualism' in the west has led to?..
i'm not attempting to engage in a political ideology argument here, but i will posit that whatever western paradigms they assumed / adopted, those are merely placeholders... token symbols of yes-we-will-play-by-your-rules-but-we-will-own-the-game-eventually.
i do believe they were quite content to exist without any interference from 'foreigners' as a matter of culture up until relatively recent times.
apologies for indulging in the question-mark to me that is china...
on another note, asia is a BIG place... noting that, it's also a great lot of people there that despise the west...
but then again, our wise decision makers and legislators here in the west i heard, do have a tendency to forge their own creations to keep their globalist agenda moving...
charlie don't surf!..
... Mitch. Nothing is ever simple. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 173402
7/19/2007 12:48 PM | | Re: THEY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE BEES!! | Quote |
At € 2.00 per hive per year we'll know soon enough. |
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