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CBS) JERSEY CITY A Jersey City woman made a shocking discovery on her lawn this morning when she noticed a military rocket launcher lying in the grass.

Niranjana Besai was leaving her house, located at 88 Nelson Street, to go to work just after 8 this morning when she spotted the launcher on her front lawn. "I read it and it [said] 'missile,'" Besai told CBS 2 HD. "There was little 'missile' [writing] on it."

She immediately called police.

Sources tell CBS 2 HD that the device is an AT-4 missile launcher that is used to fire against tanks and buildings. The device was first approved by the U.S. Army in 1985 and questions are being raised as to whether the device was stolen from a branch of the military.

Its very powerful warheads can penetrate through well over a foot of armor, however each launcher can only be used once. The device found on Besai's lawn was said to have been used previously and deemed inoperable.

Investigators are now trying to determine when and even where the launcher had been fired.

Officials initially expressed concern after discovering that Besai's house is located along a flight path for Newark Liberty International Airport.

Residents along Nelson Street were alarmed by the discovery.

Besai's neighbor, Joe Quinn, tells CBS 2 HD he was outside of his home when he noticed Besai pointing at the device from her front porch. When he walked over to see what the fuss was about, he was just as shocked to see weapon, said to be about three or four feet long and weighing about 15 pounds.

"She's pointing that there's something in the front," he told CBS 2 HD. "I said, 'Let me come down and take a look,' and I saw a little soldier on it and I said, 'Whoa, that's a missile launcher or something!'"

Quinn says he originally thought the launcher was just a pipe, but after noticing the picture of the soldier -- which he described as a soldier kneeling, holding the launcher -- he realized it looked similar to a missile launcher he'd seen on television. "I got scared myself," he says. "It looked like a bazooka, and right away you think what does somebody want with something like that?"

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Jersey City Police removed the launcher, and the incident is now being investigated by the Joint Terrorism Task Force and the FBI.

Sources say Besai is not involved in the investigation as a suspect. "I don't think it was hers, they're nice people," Quinn said.

Stay with wcbstv.com and CBS 2 HD for more on this developing story.


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Re: Feds seize missile launcher in New Jersey.
At the same site as the dancing Israelis!
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Nothing to see here move alone. The launcher was empty and could only be fired once. People collect these things
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Left over from July 4th.
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Why is this pinned???
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Main headline on Drudge.

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Maybe it's pinned because Trinty want's his toy back.
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I'm so goddammed sick and tired of the fucking worthless media- sorry- controlled propaganda service- I could scream.

The AT-4 (AT= Anti-Tank) was a replacement for the LAW (Light anti-armor weapon) that allowed adaptation to existing night vision hardware. It's MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE RANGE (and if you did time in the Infantry, these things are seared into your memory) is 250 meters. It is not an anti aircraft weapon, so being found "under the Newark flight path" is as relevant as it being found next to the "Atlantic Shipping lanes"- and for the record virtually every fucking square inch of NJ is "under the Newark flight path".

It's nothing. It's an empty that's already fired it's round, it's not reloadable, like a bazooka, it's a one time deal.

When I was a kid in the late 70's you could pick up empty LAW's at flea markets for a couple of bucks and as kids who played Army we always had a couple. I'm sure that would get you ten years in the federal pen these days, but back then it was still America, not a Stalinist police state.

THIS IS A DISTRACTION. NOTHING HERE FOLKS.
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I know this is off topic but why the hell do people cry about threads that are pinned?
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Hmmmm. Curious. Spent AT-4 tube found in NJ about 5 miles away one day after a large "steam pipe" explosion in NYC.

Thoughts?
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User ID: 86590 hit the nail on the head, especially about how it used to be America.
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Fell off of an Israeli moving van.
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[link to www.fas.org]

max range 2000 meters or 1.25 miles.
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Hmmmm. Curious. Spent AT-4 tube found in NJ about 5 miles away one day after a large "steam pipe" explosion in NYC.

Thoughts?
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Why would they leave the missile launcher on a strangers lawn like that and not hide it if they did use it? 1doh1
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[link to www.fas.org]

max range 2000 meters or 1.25 miles.
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Thats a guided missile, the one they found is the
[link to www.fas.org]

Launcher.
Length..................... 1,020 mm (40 inches)
Weight (Complete System) .. 6.7 kg (14.8 pounds)
Rear Sight................. Range indicator, graduated in 50-meter increments

Rocket.
Caliber ................... 84 mm
Muzzle Velocity............ 290 mps (950 fps)
Length .................... 460 mm (18 inches)
Weight..................... 1.8 kg (4 pounds)
Minimum Range Training ........... 30 meters (100 feet)
Combat ................. 10 meters (33 feet)
Arming.................. 10 meters (33 feet)
Maximum Range ............. 2,100 meters (6,890 feet)
Maximum Effective Range ... 300 meters (985 feet)
Lost Fisherman

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Hmmmm. Curious. Spent AT-4 tube found in NJ about 5 miles away one day after a large "steam pipe" explosion in NYC.

Thoughts?


Why would they leave the missile launcher on a strangers lawn like that and not hide it if they did use it? 1doh1
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Let's stir the pot a little more - maybe it was planted on her lawn, hoping to incriminate her or a relative? For those of you fond of talking about "false flag ops", this should be an interesting scenario. 'course that means whoever planted it ain't payin' attention: her name is Indian, not Arab.

Or, maybe it's just as simple as "dude, we gotta ditch this thing! Throw it out the window!"

Now, before the flames begin, note that I'm not suggesting any particular scenario as the truth. Just providing food for thought.
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We had them in the National Guard
Dragon is what we called them
I was lucky enough to carry it, empty of course.
Id say some disgruntled NG soldier was sick of having to carry the damn thing.
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Like another poster said. War memento, Given to a kid, who played with it, dropped it and forgot it. Now the cops have it. Hey mister! Can we have our rocket launcher back?
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Fell off of an Israeli moving van.
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This one? [link to www.nicejewishboymoving.com]
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Fell off of an Israeli moving van.


This one? [link to www.nicejewishboymoving.com]
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unbefarkingbelievable

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This is not good :(
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Hmmmm. Curious. Spent AT-4 tube found in NJ about 5 miles away one day after a large "steam pipe" explosion in NYC.

Thoughts?
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My first reaction also.
But don't have a hasty reaction :).
Sometimes 1 + 1 = 2 good to be true (forensicly speaking).
I think it's a plant to help steer people to that conclusion.
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FUCK!

I think I've got something here!

it's a Youtube vid of the blast, and at 38 seconds, it captures a fella running from the blast with something over his shoulder, but THEN, at 44 seconds, that very same fella tries to stop the filmer from filming the blast!

He keeps on badgering the guy as well, and the vid eventually stops! I can't make out what they're saying to each other though, the steam is so loud!

[link to www.youtube.com]

wtf
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FUCK!

I think I've got something here!

it's a Youtube vid of the blast, and at 38 seconds, it captures a fella running from the blast with something over his shoulder, but THEN, at 44 seconds, that very same fella tries to stop the filmer from filming the blast!

He keeps on badgering the guy as well, and the vid eventually stops! I can't make out what they're saying to each other though, the steam is so loud!

[link to www.youtube.com]

wtf
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Looks like its just a bag.
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why is he trying to stop the guy filming though?
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Hmmmm. Curious. Spent AT-4 tube found in NJ about 5 miles away one day after a large "steam pipe" explosion in NYC.

Thoughts?

My first reaction also.
But don't have a hasty reaction :).
Sometimes 1 + 1 = 2 good to be true (forensicly speaking).
I think it's a plant to help steer people to that conclusion.
 Quoting: Monarch


I think Fisherman's got a point. 'Steam' blast, then a discharged missile launcher.

Why would someone want to plant evidence? Maybe to get someone's attention.

Maybe whoever plotted the device, wanted the police to know about it. Get the press in on it. Show it to whoever would notice something like this.

Or like some folks have said, fell off a truck, someone dropped it, etc.
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i dont think youd want to fire that underground
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It must be one of those micro nuke launcher!
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i dont think youd want to fire that underground
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Aw, c'mon, where's your sense of adventure?
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John Titor's articles from the future...

CBS) JERSEY CITY A Jersey City woman made a shocking discovery on her lawn this morning when she noticed a military rocket launcher lying in the grass.

Niranjana Besai was leaving her house, located at 88 Nelson Street, to go to work just after 8 this morning when she spotted the launcher on her front lawn. "I read it and it [said] 'missile,'" Besai told CBS 2 HD. "There was little 'missile' [writing] on it."

She immediately called police.

Sources tell CBS 2 HD that the device is an AT-4 missile launcher that is used to fire against tanks and buildings. The device was first approved by the U.S. Army in 1985 and questions are being raised as to whether the device was stolen from a branch of the military.

Its very powerful warheads can penetrate through well over a foot of armor, however each launcher can only be used once. The device found on Besai's lawn was said to have been used previously and deemed inoperable.

Investigators are now trying to determine when and even where the launcher had been fired.

Officials initially expressed concern after discovering that Besai's house is located along a flight path for Newark Liberty International Airport.

Residents along Nelson Street were alarmed by the discovery.

Besai's neighbor, Joe Quinn, tells CBS 2 HD he was outside of his home when he noticed Besai pointing at the device from her front porch. When he walked over to see what the fuss was about, he was just as shocked to see weapon, said to be about three or four feet long and weighing about 15 pounds.

"She's pointing that there's something in the front," he told CBS 2 HD. "I said, 'Let me come down and take a look,' and I saw a little soldier on it and I said, 'Whoa, that's a missile launcher or something!'"

Quinn says he originally thought the launcher was just a pipe, but after noticing the picture of the soldier -- which he described as a soldier kneeling, holding the launcher -- he realized it looked similar to a missile launcher he'd seen on television. "I got scared myself," he says. "It looked like a bazooka, and right away you think what does somebody want with something like that?"

Digg This Story!

Jersey City Police removed the launcher, and the incident is now being investigated by the Joint Terrorism Task Force and the FBI.

Sources say Besai is not involved in the investigation as a suspect. "I don't think it was hers, they're nice people," Quinn said.

Stay with wcbstv.com and CBS 2 HD for more on this developing story.


[link to wcbstv.com]
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User ID: 86590 hit the nail on the head, especially about how it used to be America.
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What is just as curious as the missle launcher being found is what happened to the original reply that 86590 is quoting? I don't see it between his quote and the start of this thread.