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Anonymous Coward User ID: 230014 United States 07/29/2007 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There should be two choices: Chain gang or go home. After say 10 years on a chain gang, building and cleaning highways and having only bread and water, they can get an acre of free land in New Mexico. Or get the fuck out. I find that quite fair. better than you'd get in fucking Mexico, if the shoe were on the other foot. |
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Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed. Thinking beyond simple (yet complex) deportation of illegal aliens, how about we charge the Mexican government the amount that we as taxpayers have funded Mexican citizens to live in our country? Vote for Ron Paul in 2008! The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Hwt-Hr User ID: 72647 Czechia 07/29/2007 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice, nic... I have a question though. As a tourist visiting USA, I have to pay my own travel and medical insurance, I spend money in USA, I won't get a dime by all those programs and I won't come to do any criminal activity... actually I am a bit afraid of one. Yet, my status is ILLEGAL ALIEN by your law :-) I wanted to ask - should I come? And one serious question - what is the income for US businesses that employ those you speak about for next to nothing for jobs americans would do? You have to add the money to the other side of equation to be fair... |
Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I'd welcome anyone from all across the planet to visit the US, work here, perhaps even decide to live here.. but for people to cowardly cross the land border & hide here while leeching honest, legal American citizens is pathetic. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
blackcat66 User ID: 274306 United States 07/29/2007 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you're simply a tourist that doesn't classify you as an illegal alien - at least as far as I am concerned of the "legislations," and because of my personal beliefs. Quoting: Sudel_TekPersonally I'd welcome anyone from all across the planet to visit the US, work here, perhaps even decide to live here.. but for people to cowardly cross the land border & hide here while leeching honest, legal American citizens is pathetic. The 'leeching' is mutual, Sudel_Tek. It is a co-dependent relationship. Employers/employee. When the demand stops, so the supply. |
Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am directly speaking about the process of law and taxation, not economics or business. God knows how many criminals we are providing social services for. I don't give a shit if they're working @ a farm, which allows us to eat tomatoes for dinner. Consider all of the food contaminations. If Mexico cannot efficiently support their citizenry, it is their problem.. and if they are sluggish in implementing improvement, it is our responsibility to take over and make sure that Mexico's problems do not affect our country! The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
blackcat66 User ID: 274306 United States 07/29/2007 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Mexico cannot efficiently support their citizenry, it is their problem.. and if they are sluggish in implementing improvement, it is our responsibility to take over and make sure that Mexico's problems do not affect our country! Quoting: Sudel_TekThat would happen if your government would care about americans, Sudel_Tek, but that is not what I see. I see the american government, taking advantage of the mexican corruption (the main cause of Poverty in Mexico and in the world) to have cheap salaries and oh... more soldiers. Poverty is a great army recruiter. |
anonanon User ID: 269684 United States 07/29/2007 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree that all communities should be able to bill the Mexican government for the services rendered from schools to medical to extra police and firemen, translators, printing bi-lingual forms and anything else they provide like welfare payments. The federal government should start billing for all it spends on food stamp programs, medicaid, welfare, section 8 housing, etc. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 260705 United States 07/29/2007 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A tourist, carrying a passport, is welcome here. Because they are TOURISTS! Illegal aliens, living here illegally, should be deported because THEY ARE LIVING HERE ILLEGALLY! My dad worked for the INS for 30 years. Simple solution=deportation. There just isn't enough human power to completely enforce this however- the USA is a huge country. Since dad retired 25 years ago things have gotten so rotten here it's overwhelming. Unions and healthcare for undocumented workers? WTF? Thank Caesar Chavez for that one...it was the first crack in the wall. Before that snafu there was a guest worker program that worked fine. You agreed not to accept citizen rights in exchange for a wage. Yes it was a low wage, but it was an agreement you signed- no one forced you and it was a lot more than you'd earn back home. When the work was over, you went home with your money. Fine. It was a signed agreement. Then these organizers like Chavez came in and said this is inhuman. These people want more. Even though no one forced them to sign their guest worker agreement. The workers, of course, saw the organizers as their allies, because they were going to get them more money and benefits! So they began to rally around these ego trippers. Now we have the present rock-and-a-hard-place situation, where we've guaranteed all these worker rights, but can't afford to honor them because SOOO many folks are taking advantage of the higher living standards without paying back into the system that supports them. You can't really blame them for trying to better themselves, but the current system has been stretched to it's limits. We need to return to a realistic guest worker program, and start a hardline enforcement of it. |
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Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you yanks are illegal aliens - you stole the land from the indigenous residents Quoting: Anonymous Coward 274375That has been said way too many times now. Is that an excuse or what? I'm European yet I live here, but we cannot go back so far into the past. We have to deal with present problems. Illegal Mexican aliens have their own land & country - Mexico. The US is not a haven for Mexicans who have unfortunate circumstances within their own country. Why don't they rise up and begin a movement; revolution? Are they not that independent & brave? The big picture only has partially to do with Mexico/Mexicans. Do we know who indeed has crossed our borders illegally? No. Some could be foreign intelligence operatives, Chinese spies, Islamic terrorists, felons/criminals, rapists, child molesters, ET species from another galaxy, who the hell knows!? They have illegally migrated, therefore our national security has been breached. To protect the true, legal citizens of America, the US government needs to do something efficient, am I right? EU member countries themselves have immigration issues to deal with. Have fun and good luck with that. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 274375 Monaco 07/29/2007 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a european by birth - British as it happens - and live in a small country on the mediteranean. I believe in humanity as a whole, and think americas recent record sucks. as does Britains. (Tony Blair had his nose so far up bushes arse it was sickening) Lies- weapons of mass deception - illegal wars - rigged elections (bush / diebold / florida) - false flag attacks - (9/11)/ there is so much wealth in real terms in the world = why are you afraid of people who would prefer to work than starve . |
Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is so much wealth in real terms in the world = why are you afraid of people who would prefer to work than starve . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 274375I'd have to agree with you on that note. I'm for humanity as a whole myself. However I do live in NYC, I have witnessed what certain parts of humanity are willing to do for some irrational, illogical, idiotic cause (Islamic AND Christian fundamentalism) It's very unfortunate that we even need to document every single person that enters a country, but what is the alternative? Put on the table a legitimate solution to the present concerns of the world population. Foreign workers are a great resource to a country and it's economy. I'm on the fence regarding the issue in a more complex matter however. I'm Italian & Austrian and I love my ancestry & blood, however first we must fight the elite whole (Freemasonry, Bohemian Club, Trilateral Commission, etc..) before we can unite as one. Most of the illegal aliens are indeed here to work and provide financial resources to their families usually back home (Mexico mostly I bet) but I believe what they should be doing is fighting the corruption back home! I guess they're only trying to survive, but they perhaps need to be taught something. Be realistic. The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 274375 Monaco 07/29/2007 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will add to my previous post - I was last in America before October 23rd Last year, it would take very large sums of money and guarqantees for my personal safety to visit USA which I and any other intelligent European now view as a Fascist State since HR6166 was passed into Law |
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Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will add to my previous post - I was last in America before October 23rd Last year, it would take very large sums of money and guarqantees for my personal safety to visit USA which I and any other intelligent European now view as a Fascist State since HR6166 was passed into Law Quoting: Anonymous Coward 274375Agreed. I personally am planning to have a home in the US only perhaps 2nd to an initial location in Asia, Europe, or even Australia. I don't think I want to live here for a minimum of another 10 years. ;) The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 272835 United States 07/29/2007 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AM AN AMERICAN AND I AGREE THAT OUR COUNTRY IS NOW A FACIST STATE. THE LEGISLATION FROM THE "PATRIOT ACT" ONWARD HAS SEEN TO THAT. I ONLY WISH I COULD FIND A DECENT EU CITIZEN AND ONE WHO WAS WILLING TO MARRY ME LONG ENOUGH TO GET MY DUAL CITIZENSHIP SO I COULD LAWFULLY LIVE IN THE EU. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CHOICE BEFORE THEY CLOSE THE BOARDERS AND TRAP US ALL HERE WITH THE ILLEGAL MEXICANS, ETC. IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. ANYONE WHO HAS ANY MONEY OR THE ABILITY TO LEAVE IS GOING TO GET OUT AND GET OUT SOON. THE OUTFLOW OF CASH AND TALENT WILL RESULT IN TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE US BEING HIGHLY RESTRICTED. THE CHIPPED PASSPORTS ARE ONLY THE BEGINNING! GOD HELP US ALL! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9100 United States 07/29/2007 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I AM AN AMERICAN AND I AGREE THAT OUR COUNTRY IS NOW A FACIST STATE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272835THE LEGISLATION FROM THE "PATRIOT ACT" ONWARD HAS SEEN TO THAT. I ONLY WISH I COULD FIND A DECENT EU CITIZEN AND ONE WHO WAS WILLING TO MARRY ME LONG ENOUGH TO GET MY DUAL CITIZENSHIP SO I COULD LAWFULLY LIVE IN THE EU. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CHOICE BEFORE THEY CLOSE THE BOARDERS AND TRAP US ALL HERE WITH THE ILLEGAL MEXICANS, ETC. IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. ANYONE WHO HAS ANY MONEY OR THE ABILITY TO LEAVE IS GOING TO GET OUT AND GET OUT SOON. THE OUTFLOW OF CASH AND TALENT WILL RESULT IN TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE US BEING HIGHLY RESTRICTED. THE CHIPPED PASSPORTS ARE ONLY THE BEGINNING! GOD HELP US ALL! The EU is the beta test for the NWO. |
Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets all migrate to Japan or South Korea.. :) I'm looking for a woman of Japanese citizenship to marry in order to reside there for an indefinite period of time. :) /me fantasizes The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |
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HL Shancken User ID: 262263 United States 07/29/2007 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | = Communist Invasion of America by Luca Zanna proud American and proud Anti communist The problem of the Illegal immigration, it is just part of a bigger problem… and this problem is called COMMUNISM! I know something about communism... One of the reasons why I left Europe and Italy it’s because I can’t stand it... just mentioning the word it can give me a nervous breakdown! Communism is the social castration of every free human being! The Communists have found the plan of how to destroy and conquer America from within. This Country is being poisoned and weakened everyday with a virus and this virus is called Illegal Immigration! As you know, Communists forces are already in our system, in most of our bias media, in our brainwashing schools, universities, in our liberal courts, we have also them on Capitol Hill… many of our politicians they supposed to defend us and represent us, instead they are working for the interests of foreign Countries trying to plant this seed of evil in form of less violent socialism! Finally Communism has found the way how to conquer and transform America without firing a bullet! Here the recipe for destruction: 1) Erase our borders 2) Let millions of desperates illegal aliens coming in without control and without love for our Constitution 3) Give them driver licenses 4) Let them continue speak another language different from english... no assimilation, no integration.. silent invasion! 5) Let them vote, legally or illegally, they already are voting or they will vote very soon… And whoila'… at the next election, your communist red cake is ready... America is ready to collapse and become a new Russia! Look at California and our new Mayor Antonio Mecha Villaigrosa, a great socialist trojan horse on the payroll of Mexico… They are forcing us to pay with the fruit of our hard work and sacrifice to people that don’t deserve and don’t have the legal rights to be here... free education for the Illegals, free healthcare for the illegals, social security benefits for the illegals... and on top, we are feeding the monster that is trying to kill us and divide America and give it to Mexico! First we let them in, we feed them and then we let them use violence to shut us up and deny us our Freedom of speech. Like in Cuba, like in Russia, North korea, or China... You have freedom only if you agree with them. California my home state is the living proof…. Baldwin Park May 14th, 2005 … Garden grove May 25th 2005... We American Citizens we are losing the freedom to use our first amendment… Police can't or does not want defend us, but at the same time our socialist state is trying to disarm us and denying us the use our second amendment with the extreme joy of the United Nations! Illegals aliens and communists American traitors united to threaten our way of life… and destroy America! We go around the world to give others the freedom that today we are losing in our own Country! How sad! What 100 millions of Chinese soldiers from the Red Army could do easily one near day (yes red China has 100 million soldiers ready to be deployed, plus 3 millions from Noth Korea... and I believe we have only 1 million American soldiers... spread around the world), it can be done even easier without firing a bullet!! Just keep attacking this Country from within ! Let the trojan illegal Aliens in, let them blend, let them me reach the power, let them vote... let them use our democratic system to destroy us! And when somebody try to wake up the rest of America, the enemy has found the magic word that they think is gonna shut us up: RACIST!!! My answer is very simple: KISS MY ASS It's time to turn our brainwashing tv off, drink less beer and go in the streets and remind our corrupted politicians, that our Constitution says "WE THE PEOPLE"... not We the Illegals, or We the Communists, or We the burocrats... We the American People. Let's remind them that we are ready to defend our Constitution, our way of life, and our Freedom... even with our life if necessary. that's why our Founder Fathers gave us the second Amendment Communism does not and will not rule in America, not till I will live at least! Luca Zanna "We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism." [link to unitedstates.fm] Nikita Khrushchev A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
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HL Shancken User ID: 262263 United States 07/29/2007 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Communist Party, USA: Resolution on Immigrant Rights Therefore be it resolved, that the Communist Party USA calls for: • Solidarity with democratic forces fighting imperialist neoliberal polices in their home countries so that mass migration from poor countries to rich becomes unnecessary. • The rapid legalization, without discrimination or onerous conditions, of all undocumented workers and their relatives living in the United States. • The creation of mechanisms whereby immigrant workers in the future can come to the United States legally and safely with full rights. • The rejection of the Bush administration's “guest worker program”; demand that any program of migrant labor (a) accord to migrant workers and their families all labor and other legal rights accorded to U.S.-born workers, (b) not accede to employers the ultimate control over the decision of who can come to the U.S. and who cannot, and under what circumstances workers and their families can stay in the U.S., (c) include the real possibility that the worker and his/her family become, if they so desire, permanent residents and then citizens, and (d) give migrant workers and their families full access to U.S. courts for the enforcement of their rights. • The repeal of the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, the USA PATRIOT Act, the employer sanctions component of IRCA, and the REAL ID Act, a legislative overturn of the Hoffman Plastic Compounds Decision, and the repeal of all other anti-immigrant federal, state, county and local legislation and executive orders. • The prohibition of state, local and county police from acting as immigration agents. • The U.S./Mexico border to be demilitarized and humanized. • An end to discrimination against immigrants with or without papers in the issuance of drivers licenses, and no restriction on the right of immigrants to use consular ID cards or other country-of-origin IDs to open bank and credit accounts or to deal with government agencies. • All workers and their family members, with or without documents, to have full access to all public services paid for by their taxes and labor, including Social Security and Medicare and affordable higher education. • The prosecution of organizations, individuals and media outlets that foment hatred and violence toward the foreign-born, or toward specific racial and ethnic groups. • Support and development of greater anti-defamation and anti-repression efforts defending immigrants and their communities. • Stop government harassment of Native American communities in our border areas, and respect their rights to pass back and forth freely as guaranteed by treaty. • The defeat of the anti-immigrant, ultra right forces in the elections of 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 on federal, state and local levels. • An end to the appointment of repressive, anti-immigrant judges. • Labor and community forces to help to strengthen the coalition of forces united by the labor-led Immigrant Workers Freedom and work within it to advance legislation and other activities that will achieve freedom and justice for immigrant workers. In the context of this coalition, we support the positive provisions of Kennedy-McCain bill, while working to strengthen its protections of immigrant workers’ rights and opposing restrictive measures; and, Be it further resolved, that we call on Communist Party bodies and activists to increase and improve outreach to and support of immigrant communities and labor and civic organizations, including the building of our Party and press among these communities. Increased and more rapid publication of materials in Spanish and other languages are needed. More meetings, forums, rallies, seminars, studies, and assignments of responsibility are needed on the question; and, Be it further resolved, that the incoming National Committee should establish ongoing collective effort to help coordinate greater concentration on the question including the development of an Immigrant Workers Bill of Rights taking into account previous such documents and progressive international standards such as those set out in the Declaration on the Rights of Migrants, Refugees, Displaced Peoples and their Families, adopted at the 5th World Social Forum, Porto Allegre, Brazil in 2005. Adopted by the 28th National Convention of the Communist Party, USA, Chicago, IL; July 1-3, 2005. www.cpusa.org [link to www.cpusa.org] A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 178822 Australia 07/29/2007 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the criminal governemnt care how much is spent on these parasites. It's not their money. The only ones who gain are the corporations who make billions and pay low taxes. And most of the politicians have high dollar interests in these corporations. You see, the government is not a government as such. It is basically a corporation there to make profits. To them the people are just commodities to be used like any other. The problem is only a small percentage of the population know this. |
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Sudel_Tek User ID: 257208 United States 07/29/2007 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More like another problem created. :( The blackening of roses will send you to the edges of the land/ The emerald tablets of Thoth the Atlantean/ The hands of the mighty Lion of Judah/ Will throw you through the triangular portals of Bermuda/ Exploring the Hologramic aspects of consciousness/ |