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THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS (DSS)

 
ROSH CHODESH
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THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS (DSS)
Greetings all;

Even at the time of this post, new discoveries and sections of manuscripts are still being unearthed in the environs of Qumran. The DSS contain the following scriptural books:

THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS
The number in () indicates quantity. TEXT LOCATED IN CAVE NUMBER
Genesis (19) 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 11
Exodus (17) 1, 2, 4, 7
Leviticus (13) 1, 2, 4, 6
Numbers (7) 4
Deuteronomy (30) 1, 2, 4, 5, 6
Joshua (2) 4
Judges (3) 1, 4
1-2 Samuel (4) 1
1-2 Kings (3) 4, 5, 6
Isaiah (21) 1, 4
Jeremiah (6) 2, 4
Ezekiel (6) 1, 3, 4
Hosea 4
Amos 4, 5
Obadiah 4
Jonah 4
Micah 4
Nahum 4
Habakkuk 4
Zephaniah 4
Haggai 4
Zechariah 4
Malachi 4
Psalms (36) 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8
Job (4) 2, 4
Proverbs (2) 4
Ruth (4) 2
Song of Songs (4) 6
Ecclesiastes (2)
Lamentations (4) 3, 5
Daniel (8) 1, 6
Ezra (1) 4
1-2 Chronicles (1)
Jubilees
Levi
Apocryphon of Joshua
1-4 Enoch
Tobit 4
Ecclesiasticus 2
The Damascus Document
The Temple Scroll
The Community Rule
The Rule of the Congregation
The Rule of Blessings
The War Scroll
The Thanksgiving Hymns
The Genesis Apocryphon
The Copper Scroll
Targum on Leviticus
The Targum on Job
Apocryphon of Joshua
The Florilegium
The Testamonia
The Calendar Texts
The Halakhic Letter
The Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice
Melchitzedeq
1 – 4 Makk

There are numerous documents not indexed such as the Damascus Document, Copper Scroll etc. However, perhaps the most intriguing aspect of the find may be why did someone(s) establish this community.

The municipality was active from about 190 B.C. to 100 A.D., roughly 300 years. Non-biblical texts indicate that the community was very dissatisfied with the priesthood that was operating the Jerusalem Temple. Indeed the Qumranites considered the Jerusalem priesthood fraudulent and fallacious. According to scripture the sons of Zadoq (a Levite) were the authenticated, authoritative inheritors of the priesthood - NIV Ezekiel 40:46 and the room facing north is for the priests who have charge of the altar. These are the sons of Zadok, who are the only Levites who may draw near to the LORD to minister before him."

Was their assertion, that the Jerusalem priesthood was invalid, accurate? The Renewed Testament (RT) indicates yes. Consider Paul’s own testimony: NIV Romans 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. Then contemplate: NIV Mark 2:14 As he walked along, he saw Levi son of Alphaeus sitting at the tax collector's booth. "Follow me," Jesus told him, and Levi got up and followed him.

What’s wrong with this picture? Straightforward, the BENJAMITES were running the Temple, while the LEVITES were out working as tax collectors and who knows what else. The inhabitants of Qumran had a valid contention.

One of the most meritorious and notable miens of the Qumran community was their zeal to care for orphans. Another one of the distinguished hallmarks of the community was their performance of miqvehs three times a day. A miqveh is a full immersion in a pool of water for physical and spiritual ablution.

Elizabeth and Zacharias were in a condition of advanced age when Elizabeth birthed her son John, who would proceed on to become known as John the Baptist. John’s garb was like that of Eliyahu the prophet. The imagery of eating locusts is demonstrable for ‘eating sin’, i.e. having the sh’micah (authority) to break the grasp of sin; locusts being seen as a sign of plague, often times brought on by transgressing God’s commandments.

John did his baptizing at Bethabara: NKJ John 1:28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

Biblical archaeologists are quite certain that Bethabara is less than 10,000 feet (2 miles, 3.3 km) from Qumran. Since John’s parents were very aged at his birth, and since the Qumran community was famous for taking in orphans, the probability is very high that John hailed from Qumran.

If that is true, then it lends substantial credence to the documents and doctrines taught at Qumran. If fact, the Qumranites may have been referenced by Yeshua Himself: NKJ Matthew 9:13 "But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice.' For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."

In general, Protestantdom attempts to downplay the significance of the DSS, primarily because this community had more to their codex than the Present day Protest canon has. On the other hand, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Messianic Judaism, and the Ethiopic churches tend to celebrate the on-going discoveries as these many of the additional texts are already part of their canon and therefore do not break their denominational boxes. Scripture (the book of Daniel) indicates that in the end of days “knowledge shall increase” (Daniel 12:4). This is seen to be true in both the Biblical and secular arenas.

Y’va-reh-cha-cha Ah-doe-nigh v’yeesh-m’reh-cha, Ya-air Ah-doe-nigh, pa-navh ay-leh-cha vee-choo-neh-ka, Yee-sa Ah-doe-nigh pa-nahv al-leh-cha ve-ya-sem l’cha Shalom. (Numbers 6:24-26). The Lord bless you and keep you, The Lord make His face shine upon you and be gracious unto you, The Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace.

Rosh Chodesh.
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08/02/2007 12:52 PM
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Re: THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS (DSS)
The real reason why these documents were locked away is that they are as close to proof as you can get that there wasn't a Jesus or any of the other things claimed in the New Testament?

Why?

Look at the time period - the 300 years of that community with all their records cover exactly the period that Jesus was supposed to be in the temple! Yet... not a mention. Of all the stuff that they record, this guy who allegedly caused more upset than anything and anyone else... isn't even mentioned.

In fact, NONE of the 40 historians active at the time record anything to do with Jesus.

Impossible if the Bible stories are correct.

So... as with all things to do with Christianity, lies and deception are used... and the scrolls have been locked away for all these centuries.
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08/02/2007 01:11 PM
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The real reason why these documents were locked away is that they are as close to proof as you can get that there wasn't a Jesus or any of the other things claimed in the New Testament?

Why?

Look at the time period - the 300 years of that community with all their records cover exactly the period that Jesus was supposed to be in the temple! Yet... not a mention. Of all the stuff that they record, this guy who allegedly caused more upset than anything and anyone else... isn't even mentioned.

In fact, NONE of the 40 historians active at the time record anything to do with Jesus.

Impossible if the Bible stories are correct.

So... as with all things to do with Christianity, lies and deception are used... and the scrolls have been locked away for all these centuries.
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LOL I recommend you learn when they were written, the very latest is 100BC that is a long time before Jesus was supposed to have arrived.....
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08/02/2007 01:14 PM
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Re: THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS (DSS)
The real reason why these documents were locked away is that they are as close to proof as you can get that there wasn't a Jesus or any of the other things claimed in the New Testament?

Why?

Look at the time period - the 300 years of that community with all their records cover exactly the period that Jesus was supposed to be in the temple! Yet... not a mention. Of all the stuff that they record, this guy who allegedly caused more upset than anything and anyone else... isn't even mentioned.

In fact, NONE of the 40 historians active at the time record anything to do with Jesus.

Impossible if the Bible stories are correct.

So... as with all things to do with Christianity, lies and deception are used... and the scrolls have been locked away for all these centuries.
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LOL I recommend you learn when they were written, the very latest is 100BC that is a long time before Jesus was supposed to have arrived.....If you check out the other library of works that revealed itself from the desert in egypt you will find Jesus everywhere.

However, the man most Jewish people rejected is called their own in Egypt, bearing in mind that God called Jesus out of Egypt....
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In fact, NONE of the 40 historians active at the time record anything to do with Jesus.

If you do your research you will discover that everything possible was done to eradicate his name by the Rabbi's, there is even written evidence of Rabbi's stating this as truth.
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ROSH CHODESH (OP)
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Re: THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS (DSS)
Extra-Biblical evidence-testimony of Yeshua can be found in:

1) The Talmud, it oddly “confirms” His existence by saying he was a ‘trickster’ in performing the miracles he worked. But scripture anticipates this: JPS Psalm 76:10 (76-11) Surely the wrath of man shall praise Thee; the residue of wrath shalt Thou gird upon Thee.

2) Josephus Antiquities 18:63-64 “Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, IF IT BE LAWFUL TO CALL HIM A MAN, for he was a doer of wonders, A TEACHER OF SUCH MEN AS RECEIVE THE TRUTH WITH PLEASURE. He drew many after him, BOTH OF THE JEWS AND THE GENTILES. HE WAS THE CHRIST. When Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the stake, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, FOR HE APPEARED TO THEM ALIVE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY, AS THE DIVINE PROPHETS HAD FORETOLD THESE AND TEN THOUSAND OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HIM, and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”

3) Tacitus (circa 115 A.D.) writes about Jesus in his work Annals 15:44,

4) Pliny the Younger writes of Jesus in his letter to Emperor Trajan,

5) Roman historian Suetonius also writes of Jesus in his work “Life of the Emperor Claudius,

6) Roman historian Phlegon also writes of Jesus known from quotations made by Origen,

7) Roman Satirist Lucian of Samosta, from writings by Roman Emperor Hadrian regarding Christian persecutions,

8) From a Sadducean eye witness called Meshullam in a very detailed work titled “As others saw him”.

There are significant and copious evidences for Yeshua; one merely needs to ‘dig them out’, as the secular world will not likely highly publicize these accounts.

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