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What Supplies Will I Need To Survive For 3 Months?

 
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DISCUSSION:

Each person will have their own needs based on their location and family size, but what are the essentials?

We can discuss the basic stuff, but there are things that I'll probably need that I won't even think about until it's too late.
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Yes, let's focus on the less obvious things, along with the Must Haves.
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dried food stuffs rice beans ect
water=portable water filter with extra filters

food seed
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Big Berkley water purfier, its nice to be able to take bad water and be able to turn it into drinkable water. Well worth the cost of the unit. I have one just in case with extra elemants and also a lot of other stuff.
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Food and water first

Figure 2,500 cal. per person per day for food

Figure 1 gal. water per person per day

That should give you a starting point. Try to buy foods that is normaly eaten so you can rotate. Strange tastes during a crisis is not a good thing. Buy foods that is preparable within your skill level.

Before buying every gadget on the market, stick to the basics.

-Radio that is solar/crank/battery
-Flashlight and plenty of spare batteries
-First aid kit and a supply of medicines you normally take
-Water filter and bleach
-Means of self defense
-Basic pioneer tools shovel/crowbar/axe etc.
-Small BBQ & supply of chsrcoal and stove.
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(Scroll down about half way on this link for a "how to" guide:: [link to www.livingwithbasics.com]

[link to www.beprepared.com] -has everything

[link to www.nitro-pak.com] -- also has dental kits

cheapest and best dehydrated food (also has seeds):
www.waltonfeed.com

www.heirloomseeds.com important: seeds are worthless if they can't be saved from food for replanting -- must be "non-hybrid" or "heirloom" seeds

Food Storage Calculator (for the number in your family)... [link to www.providentliving.org]

also, do internet search for "72-hour emergency kits"...

**Also ... Have cash on hand -- not every penny you have in the bank...

** Don't forget to alert your family... they might listen if you say the US Government says to prepare for emergencies at [link to www.ready.gov]

** Good Luck!... Twinkle
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Things like:

Things to start a campfire.
Things to make a fishing line.
Ways to purify water.
Thread to stitch wounds.

The trouble is how do we pack everything BUT pack light?
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Things like:

Things to start a campfire.
Things to make a fishing line.
Ways to purify water.
Thread to stitch wounds.

The trouble is how do we pack everything BUT pack light?
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use helium ballons tied to your back packs
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protection/security
food
water
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3 months where? At home? On the road? In the wilderness? In a bunker?

And why 3 months? Because of a natural disaster? Loss of job? Martial law? Man-made disaster? Nuke? Civil War?

The supplies you choose will depend on what kind of situation you are in. There are many commercial kits available for home use. You can even check the links in my sig to find some.

Whatever situation you are in, don't forget that you may have a lot of spare time on your hands. You may want to have on hand some books to read or some games to play. Keep a brand new deck of cards and/or some board games on hand. You might not be able to spend that spare time on the internet or playing video games. Crossword puzzle books are also good to have on hand. If you have a family or children, these kind of activities are a must. Many people talk about the necessities needed to keep the body going but don't talk about the things needed to keep your mind going.
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A houseboat would be great with enough supplies to last 40 days and 40 nights, no wait. How about at least 3 months. Don't forget the wiskey. It may come in handy.
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Truthfully, I wasn't being a smartass. There will be high tide, eventually. I wonder why Angelina and (whats his name) bought a huge 6 million dollar submarine that converts to a boat.
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As a starting point that everyone can identify with:

Say we are caught in our homes with no electricity and no water service.

Factors to consider:
Heat of day
Cold at night
Dark of night
bugs & animals
No trash pickup
No government services

That kind of thing as a start.
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As a starting point that everyone can identify with:

Say we are caught in our homes with no electricity and no water service.

Factors to consider:
Heat of day
Cold at night
Dark of night
bugs & animals
No trash pickup
No government services

That kind of thing as a start.
 Quoting: Connecting The Dots 103336

OK, so we need dry/can food and water to last three months.
The food in your fridge will go bad quickly. Eat what you can from there for the first day.

There's not much you can do about the heat of day except for staying out of the sun if you can. A generator can help power small air condition units, but, you will need enough fuel to last you three months. If you live in a rural area, you may be able to get air condition powered by propane instead of electricity.

If you are in an area that gets very cold at night, you will want to stock up on plenty of blankets and quilts. If your home has a fire place, you already know what to do. Those rural folks with propane tanks, you should already know what to do too. For those that have none of the above, you may want to spend time in the smallest room in your home or the room closest to the center of your home and close all doors. Don't use portable propane heaters in your home because of ventilation problems. Believe it or not, a few candles along with body heat in a small room can generate enough heat to be comfortable.

Pick up one of those shakeable flashlights. This will reduce the need to store a bunch of batteries. For usable lighting for rooms, pick up some oil lanterns and enough fuel to last the duration. Conserve and turn off the lanterns when retiring to bed. The lanterns still need ventilation but not as much as propane heaters. The lanterns will also provide some warmth for those cold nights.

Trash can accumulate real quickly at the start if there is not trash service. You may have to start burning your trash in metal cans. After a couple of weeks of not being able to buy anything and living off of bulk food, you will not be producing as much trash as you do in our modern world of convenience. If you own your own garden and growing your own food, you may already have a compost and using it to get rid of your food scraps. In a survival situation, you may want to start find other uses for the other things you are throwing away also to keep the garbage level down. The biggest reason to get rid of trash is to prevent conditions that encourage diseases and the attraction of pests. If you have trash such as cardboard and paper that does neither of the above, it's not that big of a deal to live it lying around (unless it gets wet).

We have grown to rely on government services too much and not rely on ourselves. Some of these services are real convenient and let us concentrate on our own pursuits. Some are obvious such as the police and fire department. Without them, you will need to provide your own protection by buying firearms and take care of your own injuries by having your own first aid kit (the reason the fire departments get called out mostly).

I'm not a medical professional so I'll make the disclaimer now that you need to talk to one about the advice I'm about to give. You will want to stock enough of your prescription medicine for whatever duration you can. Keep an eye on the expiration dates and rotate accordingly. Research the alternatives in case you can't get your prescriptions filled. If you are only allowed to get a certain amount of your medication within an alloted time frame, you may want to conserve on the medication you are taking by decreasing the dose and only take when you fill like you need to and save up on the rest. This last statement only works with certain medication and this is where I intended for the disclaimer to go. Be careful with that one.

I'm not sure why I posted such a long reply when I could of been updating my own blog (which I haven't updated in a few weeks).
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As a starting point that everyone can identify with:

Say we are caught in our homes with no electricity and no water service.

Factors to consider:
Heat of day
Cold at night
Dark of night
bugs & animals
No trash pickup
No government services

That kind of thing as a start.
 Quoting: Connecting The Dots 103336

OK, so we need dry/can food and water to last three months.
The food in your fridge will go bad quickly. Eat what you can from there for the first day.

There's not much you can do about the heat of day except for staying out of the sun if you can. A generator can help power small air condition units, but, you will need enough fuel to last you three months. If you live in a rural area, you may be able to get air condition powered by propane instead of electricity.

If you are in an area that gets very cold at night, you will want to stock up on plenty of blankets and quilts. If your home has a fire place, you already know what to do. Those rural folks with propane tanks, you should already know what to do too. For those that have none of the above, you may want to spend time in the smallest room in your home or the room closest to the center of your home and close all doors. Don't use portable propane heaters in your home because of ventilation problems. Believe it or not, a few candles along with body heat in a small room can generate enough heat to be comfortable.

Pick up one of those shakeable flashlights. This will reduce the need to store a bunch of batteries. For usable lighting for rooms, pick up some oil lanterns and enough fuel to last the duration. Conserve and turn off the lanterns when retiring to bed. The lanterns still need ventilation but not as much as propane heaters. The lanterns will also provide some warmth for those cold nights.

Trash can accumulate real quickly at the start if there is not trash service. You may have to start burning your trash in metal cans. After a couple of weeks of not being able to buy anything and living off of bulk food, you will not be producing as much trash as you do in our modern world of convenience. If you own your own garden and growing your own food, you may already have a compost and using it to get rid of your food scraps. In a survival situation, you may want to start find other uses for the other things you are throwing away also to keep the garbage level down. The biggest reason to get rid of trash is to prevent conditions that encourage diseases and the attraction of pests. If you have trash such as cardboard and paper that does neither of the above, it's not that big of a deal to live it lying around (unless it gets wet).

We have grown to rely on government services too much and not rely on ourselves. Some of these services are real convenient and let us concentrate on our own pursuits. Some are obvious such as the police and fire department. Without them, you will need to provide your own protection by buying firearms and take care of your own injuries by having your own first aid kit (the reason the fire departments get called out mostly).

I'm not a medical professional so I'll make the disclaimer now that you need to talk to one about the advice I'm about to give. You will want to stock enough of your prescription medicine for whatever duration you can. Keep an eye on the expiration dates and rotate accordingly. Research the alternatives in case you can't get your prescriptions filled. If you are only allowed to get a certain amount of your medication within an alloted time frame, you may want to conserve on the medication you are taking by decreasing the dose and only take when you fill like you need to and save up on the rest. This last statement only works with certain medication and this is where I intended for the disclaimer to go. Be careful with that one.

I'm not sure why I posted such a long reply when I could of been updating my own blog (which I haven't updated in a few weeks).
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Wow, a double post from me with one being anon and the other not. The forum is acting funny today.
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I would suggest starting with little disaster scenarios and then moving up. For starters, if the electricity goes out for a week, what will you need? What could you do without?

Then move up the scale until you're at the point where you think, "Hey, if this happens I'm just $&^#ed no matter what".

I started my preparations with a three day kit, a bug out bag and a car kit for each of my cars. The car kit was the very first thing because I felt that having my car break down or run out of gas in the middle of no-where was the most likely disaster scenario I could face. I've also made sure that I've got good smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in the house since fires happen far more often than depressions or nuclear wars. Since then, I've moved on to having fall back locations and what I feel are workable preparations to survive for about a year without the advent of hostile forces attacking my family.

Now I'm working with my community to make friends and build up the relationships that will keep us all alive in the long term. I'm also working on my physical skills since I have an office job that makes me ill prepared for days of heavy labor.

1 thing nobody ever thinks to stock enough of... toilet paper. You can do without but it just makes everything worse if you have to.

Basic Car Kit:
Maps of my state and surrounding areas
Road flares/reflectors
Emergency cell phone or cell phone battery
emergency water (rotated bi-weekly)
emergency food (I use coast guard survival rations)
chem lights
Flash light/radio that takes both battery and a hand crank
$100.00 in cash
Manual tire pump
Tire patch kit (practice with an old tire)
Basic tool kit
Extra fan belt
oil
50% antifreeze solution
1/2 roll of toilet paper
1/4 roll of duct tape
bailing wire
100' of paracord
small marine (waterproof) first aid kit
lighter
Emergency car escape hammer
spare eye glasses
spare hat/gloves for cold weather
bug repellent
sun screen
compact binoculars
2 bandannas
small notebook
pen
pencil
sharpie
disposable camera
spare socks
old pair or sneakers
4 large trash bags
multi-tool
spare underwear
spare work shirt
Poly blend blanket
hand warmers
Military style folding shovel

Most of this is fit into a milk crate, most of that within a backpack. I figure that with what I've got I can walk home from anywhere my normal travels take me. Putting all of that together will have an immediate effect on your ability to respond to roadside emergencies and get you thinking more clearly about the rest of your preparations.

Also, I like to order my survival food from www.nitro-pak.com. In specific, the mountain house meals taste very good and are easy to make. They cost a bit more, however.

Good luck.
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Ah, you forgot the toilet paper, Damn!
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Uh,how about some egg noodles and canned chicken? That would be good with chicken broth. I've also been stocking for quite some time.
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this is what I just bought yesterday to backup my supplies (seriously):


Order Detail:
Item: IN FE M710 - Super Supply Of Milk (3 Cases of #10 cans) - 3 - $299.95
Item: IN WP F400 - KATADYN® PocketT Water Filter - 2 - $199.99
Item: IN FS G130 - White Rice #10 - 18 - $8.78
Item: IN FS G205 - Enriched White Flour #10 - 6 - $6.26
Item: IN FS G610 - Honey White Bread and Roll Mix #10 - 18 - $7.16
Item: IN FS D120 - Whole Eggs #10 - 6 - $15.26
Item: IN FS D100 - Butter Powder #10 - 6 - $21.56
Item: IN FN E240 - MOUNTAIN HOUSE® FD Entree Variety Combo Case - 2 - $135.95
Item: IN FN Y200 - SUPER SUPPLY of Freeze Dried Meat (12 cans) - 1 - $449.95
Item: IN FS S320 - Beef (non-meat) Broth - 10 - $4.46
Item: IN FS S321 - Chicken (non-meat) Broth - 10 - $4.46
Item: IN MS L100 - Lids For #10 - 10 - $0.25


Item Subtotal: $2,658.78
Basic Shipping: $12.00
Order Total: $2,670.78
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Now I'm working with my community to make friends and build up the relationships that will keep us all alive in the long term. I'm also working on my physical skills since I have an office job that makes me ill prepared for days of heavy labor.
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Knowing and having friends in your community will be the number one thing to get you through any disaster. I'm glad you touched on this. Just don't go out telling them about Armageddon or NWO take over or any other TEOTWAKI scenarios and that they need to prepare. You may want to try to network with some Mormons and have some of them as your friends too. Remember that people will still take care of their families before they help their friends though. I suggest that you do that too and be careful on picking your friends. You don't want to have a bunch of people realize that you are prepared for such a scenario and they aren't and that they expect you to provide for them.

I also like your mention of staying in shape. Not only will it help with heavy labor, but it also helps you mentally in a disaster scenario.
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I also have a medical supply kit and since I am a chocolate lover, I've stashed chocolate, especially cocoa.
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Truthfully, I wasn't being a smartass. There will be high tide, eventually. I wonder why Angelina and (whats his name) bought a huge 6 million dollar submarine that converts to a boat.
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no survival kit is complete without your very own 280ft yacht. and what yacht is complete until accessorized with it's very own submarine. comes in pink and green. and oh, yes, yellow

Submarine boat for Pitt and Jolie

12/ 4/2007

FILM stars Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are buying a £136m yacht fitted with a swimming pool, a heliport - and a submarine.

The small submarine will allow guests to explore the sea up to a depth of 1,000ft.

The 280ft yacht will be built in the Italian port of Civitavecchia by a luxury shipbuilder and will include two apartments and two guest suites.

Delivery is set for July 2009.
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DISCUSSION:

Each person will have their own needs based on their location and family size, but what are the essentials?

We can discuss the basic stuff, but there are things that I'll probably need that I won't even think about until it's too late.
 Quoting: Connecting The Dots 103336


Well, I'd say a bunch of condoms.
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I've recently ordered a case of freezdried porkchops and a couple of cases of their freezdried fruit. Shelflife on the chops is 30 years.

I now have a dozen cases of freezdried food. Mostly #10 cans but some foil packs also. Along with 4 cases of HeaterMeals and a ton of canned goods.
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If we are only talking a few months, why not just stock up on beans. Really, for all the jokes, it is a perfect balance of carbs, protein, and fat and will stay good forever. If you have the money for other stuff, by all means. I was just wondering.
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Truthfully, I wasn't being a smartass. There will be high tide, eventually. I wonder why Angelina and (whats his name) bought a huge 6 million dollar submarine that converts to a boat.



no survival kit is complete without your very own 280ft yacht. and what yacht is complete until accessorized with it's very own submarine. comes in pink and green. and oh, yes, yellow

Submarine boat for Pitt and Jolie

12/ 4/2007

FILM stars Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are buying a £136m yacht fitted with a swimming pool, a heliport - and a submarine.

The small submarine will allow guests to explore the sea up to a depth of 1,000ft.

The 280ft yacht will be built in the Italian port of Civitavecchia by a luxury shipbuilder and will include two apartments and two guest suites.

Delivery is set for July 2009.
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"Delivery is set for July 2009". they better hope its not too late by then.
Just passing thru.
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If we are only talking a few months, why not just stock up on beans. Really, for all the jokes, it is a perfect balance of carbs, protein, and fat and will stay good forever. If you have the money for other stuff, by all means. I was just wondering.
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Three months is like an extended campout - difficult but challenging. But it is really hard for me to conceive of being without electricity & water for longer than three months and still keep my sanity.
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What if martial law is declared due to an economic colapse or the suitcase nuke scenario?
If martial law is declared and you live in the city, do you think that you would be allowed to stay in your homes without paying for them?

I would imagine that if you live in the city and you owe on your house, be prepared to take flight rather than dealing with hordes of thieves or being "relocated" to a govt facility.

Something to think about.....comments?

I don't think the money grubbing power brokers will let you stay in a home rent free....Insurance enough to herd you into their facilities...

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