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Ron Paul, Iowa and the Presidency

Posted August 11, 2007 | 02:30 PM (EST)


A lot of people are frightened of Dr. Ron Paul's possible presidency. They're scared to talk about it, to consider it, or recognize its possibility. Like so many frightened people, they are putting their heads in the sand, and hoping it will all just go away.

Give us a snarky political professional like Guiliani or Clinton, or a nicely coiffed white family man like Romney or Edwards. Give us a nice neoconservative grandpa like Fred Thompson, or a grouchy neoconservative grandpa like McCain. Give us an Obama -- for a change of pace in everything but currently established domestic and foreign policies.

But by golly, don't dare threaten the establishment with Jeffersonian democratic vision and Washingtonian non-interventionism. Don't boldly challenge the NYC/DC axis of politics with sheer constitutionalism. Better yet, don't remind us that the American president is not the commander-in-chief of everybody but a narrowly defined and legally constrained institution that is only equal -- and certainly subject -- to our judicial and legislative bodies.

Ron Paul, Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich are the only candidates who seem to understand this. They are also the only candidates who will quickly, if not immediately, end the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Wait a sec -- I mean end it peacefully. Ultimately, Iraqis and their supporters around the world will bring down the American occupation -- but they will do so limb by limb, heart by heart, and soul by soul. They will kill thousands of us and themselves before it reaches that inevitable point of non-occupation and honest political independence. Only Paul and two underfunded Democratic contenders offer wisdom to Americans across the nation who are hungry for wisdom, at least in foreign policy.

However -- it is in domestic policy where Ron Paul completes the package. Unlike the democratic longshots, and the candidacy of GuiliClintoRomnObamThomEdwaCain, Ron Paul is about real freedom. Freedom to choose, freedom to live, freedom to decide for ourselves. He offers freedom from excessive government mandates, excessive rules and regulations, excessive confiscation of our life and property. In this, Paul is the only real conservative in the group, and yes, perhaps the only radical.

Social planners of all sorts -- some more Marxist in orientation, others more nationalist -- present themselves as the American presidential front runners. The media focuses cameras on their faces, murmurs over their every word, and wonders if America and the world will really like them as Most Supreme Leader of the World.

Ron Paul, humbly and simply, honors the Constitution -- and perhaps this makes him boring to mainstream media. When asked recently how he would use the great power of the executive office, circa 2009, Paul indicated he'd use his power to restrain the natural temptation to abuse that mostly unconstitutional concentration of power. He'd then work to restore a constitutionally established presidency -- in part by revoking the many executive orders to which we have all become inured.

Ron Paul may not excite the mainstream press, establishment policy cheerleaders, big investors in government programs, or the military-industrial complex. But Ron Paul really excites a whole heck of a lot of regular people -- and puts the scare in the rest of them.

Ron's latest odds in the Iowa Straw poll are 8 to 1 -- and the big Republican candidates who represent all-spending, all-war, all-the-time are worried. So worried, many of them aren't even coming to Iowa.

Those who wish to discredit Ron Paul as a viable candidate don't point out his popularity among traditional Republicans, Democrats and Independents. They don't point out that his "Don't Tread on Me" libertarian streak is shared by half the adults in this country, and three quarters of the teenagers. They ignore his grass roots support, the money and the passion that flows steadily into his campaign.

The Republican Party, its Democratic emulators, and mainstream media are living dinosaurs. All refuse to pull their heads out of the sand and face the issues that really touch Americans, and to deliver what Americans really want for themselves, their families and their government. And unlike in previous elections, nobody in American really, truly, cares what mainstream media thinks. It's not that Katie Couric and her ilk aren't nice people. It's just that times have changed.

These dinosaurs -- and the theropods that report the news -- are increasingly irrelevant. I believe that the other contenders for the Presidency will soon begin to adopt Paul's message and attempt to promote his agenda of freedom and peace, or they will become politically extinct. As a peace and freedom-loving American, I can't wait.

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Welcome to Ames, Ron Paul Country

Posted by Ryan Sager
Sat, 11 Aug 2007 at 12:14 PM


Just got to the Ames Straw Poll after many mishaps...

The first thing a visitor notices: the Ron Paul presence. I predicted he'd come in 7th in the poll. But the first thing you see when you get here is countless Ron Paul signs and Ron Paul workers. There' a giant Ron Paul sign right out front. Mitt Romney's got nothing on this guy...

Now, I stand by my prediction — heck, I stand by all of them until the vote comes down. I think most of these folks are from out-of-state, and thus can't vote. But I'll report back when I've had some time to walk around.

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Ron Paul's Performance at the Ames Straw Poll


Ames, IA 8/11/2007 3:46 PM GMT (TransWorldNews - Top Story)
At the end of every debate, Ron Paul has come up first or second in every online poll by the major news network that hosted the debate. In previous elections, the winner was always mentioned at the end of the broadcast but things have changed in 2008 because the media suppresses any positive for the Ron Paul campaign.

RealClearPolitics.com reported that 30 Republican officials around the state of Iowa were polled as to who would come in first through fifth and not one of them predicted Ron Paul would. Even John Cox was placed ahead of Ron Paul.

As USA Election Polls writes, "that wreaks of bias against the non-conformist Republican candidate". Make no mistake about it, Ron Paul will be attacked for his performance at the Ames Straw poll.

If Ron Paul does poorly, they will certainly call him on it. If he does well, they will just attribute that to front runners Rudy Giuliani and John McCain not competing hard for the straw poll.

The censorship will continue to live beyond today.


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When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams
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Ron Paul comes in after a very boisterous march-in by his supporters, chanting, "Real change, Ron Paul!" K. Lo. has this right: Ron Paul has the LOUDEST supporters.

Ron Paul leads off (aside from a brief shout-out to peace) with the fact that he is strongly pro-life and talks about it at some length. So far, he's talked more about abortion than any other candidate — Mitt Romney only gave it a line or two. A little something that might make Iowans more comfortable with him...

More...

Paul: 9/11 could have been prevented if we had more respect for the Second Amendment.

Paul: Calls for the abolition of the 16th Amendment.

Paul: All our current financial problems are caused by the federal-reserve system. The Constitution doesn't provide for a federal reserve.

Paul: I don't want to be the policeman of the world. Other candidates want to do more for you. I want to do less.

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When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams
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Keeping an eye on Paul

The Romney campaign is bracing for a larger-than-expected showing from Paul supporters, according to Gentry Collins, who is overseeing Mr. Romney’s Iowa operations, although his saying that may be part of a broader attempt to lower expectations for Mr. Romney.

While Mr. Collins said he was confident of the Romney straw poll organization, he said it was carefully watching the excitement that seemed to be building for Mr. Paul.

The Paul campaign has bought the minimum of 800 tickets to give to Iowans to vote. Other campaigns have bought thousands. Simple math would suggest that to do passably well, the Paul campaign is relying on Iowans who buy tickets from other candidates to vote for Mr. Paul. The suggestion that Paul supporters catch Romney buses and vote for Mr. Paul is being widely debated on the Internet ; some see it as smart while others see it as dishonest.

Mr. Benton would not speculate where Mr. Paul might finish, but said he expected most of the candidates to receive between 1,500 and 3,000 votes. “If we can be somewhere in the middle of that pack, that would be a big success for us,” he said. “Our goal is to prove that we can translate our online support into bodies in Ames and prove we can run with the pack. We feel we have a lot of room to grow, while other campaigns might have reached their peak.”
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Published August 10, 2007

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Presidential candidate Ron Paul addresses a crowd at the Iowa State Fair on Thursday.

Paul urges return to constitutional law


Republican presidential contender Ron Paul called for a return to constitutional law and bedrock American principles while he was standing atop The Des Moines Register's Soapbox Thursday at the Iowa State Fair.

THE RACE: The Texas congressman has risen from relative obscurity to growing popularity leading into Saturday's Republican straw poll in Ames.

KEY MESSAGE: Paul criticized what he regards as the erosion of personal and civil liberties fueled by increased government surveillance. He also contended that U.S. military involvement in dozens of countries is weakening the nation's strength and building anti-U.S. sentiment around the globe.

CROWD: Some 40 supporters and passers-by listened to Paul speak for about 20 minutes.

ISSUES: He condemned spending on the Iraq war and warned that ballooning federal spending is putting the United States on the path to economic ruin. He called for a swift withdrawal of United States troops from Iraq and a decreased U.S. military presence throughout the world.

QUOTE: "We have no constitutional authority to invade countries who have not attacked us."

- Jason Pulliam
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This post was written by Jason Easley on 11 August, 2007 (12:53) | All News, US Politics, Government News, US Government News, Congressional News, US News, 2008 Election Coverage 417 Views

Before his speech at the Iowa straw poll today, Ron Paul was greeted with a loud and enthusiastic ovation by his supporters. Dr. Paul talked about his presidential campaign being based on freedom, prosperity, and peace. He spoke of his belief that, “live begins at conception,” and his legal obligation as an OB to protect life. He said, “That horrible ruling” Rowe v. Wade must be eliminated. He talked about his view that the Constitution was written to “protect liberties and restrain government.” Paul said that we are not handling terrorism very well, and suggested that 9/11 could have been prevented with more respect for the Second Amendment. He advocated allowing passengers to carry guns on planes.
He said the answers to our problems as a society can be found in a “return to law and a strict interpretation of the Constitution.” Paul also argued on behalf of the people who home school and private school their kids. He is an advocate of school choice. What makes Rep. Paul different from his fellow Republicans is that he would promote choice, yet would not give federal dollars for to support this philosophy. Paul said that America has become overtaxed and overrun by bureaucrats. Paul promised to, “rid the country of the IRS, and repeal the 16th Amendment.” He said the neoconservatives don’t respect national sovereignty and called for an end to US participation in free trade agreements, and international organizations.
Paul then talked about returning the U.S. back to the gold or silver standard. He described the currency policy in this country as overtaxing, over borrowing, then the government prints more money, which according to Paul, is ruining our financial system. He said that if America is spending beyond its means, then we should tell the government to only do what they are supposed to do. Paul said that America could save $1 trillion if they stopped being the policeman for the world. He made a great point about our bridges collapsing at home, while we are paying to build them in Iraq. Paul warned, “This country is returning to tyranny, with more government and more control.”
As an example of his view of the government’s return to tyranny, Paul mentioned his opposition to the proposed national ID card. Paul concluded by saying that as president he won’t run your life, your family, and your religious beliefs. He also doesn’t have an interest in running the economy or policing the world. This story comes from my own notes during Ron Paul’s talk. I think I hit the high points of his talk. If anybody was wondering what Ron Paul is really about, he did a great job of laying out his positions and beliefs today. He really is more of a Libertarian trapped in the Republican Party, which means that his campaign is out of step with the GOP mainstream. I still think he will struggle with GOP primary voters, but Dr. Paul is doing his best to drag his party back to their conservative roots.
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Iowa Straw Poll: The Ron Paul Revolution
AMES, Iowa -- A fife and drum duo dressed in colonial attire led Rep. Ron Paul's (Texas) chanting supporters into the Hilton Coliseum moments ago.

Paul, who last ran for president in 1988 as a Libertarian, has -- without question -- the most vocal backers of any of the candidates actively participating in today's GOP straw poll.

He came to the stage to a huge and long-lasting cheer. "Our campaign is all about freedom, prosperity and peace," Paul said by way of introduction.

Paul urged that Roe v. Wade be overturned, proposed the elimination of the departments of Energy and Education and argued that the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, "could have been prevented if we had had a lot more respect for the Second Amendment."

Again and again, Paul received loud applause during his speech, most notably when he spoke of defending the Constitution. "The answers can be found in the return to the rule of law and strict interpretation of the Constitution," he said.

The excitement and enthusiasm of Paul's supporters is without question. But does that translate into votes in the straw poll? We shall see.

A few other highlights:

* John Cox, whom most people in the room probably didn't even know was running for president, found a way to unite the crowd behind him. What was the magic recipe? Two words: "Hillary Clinton." He twice mentioned the Democratic frontrunner and even touted himself as the "anti-Hillary."

* Rep. Tom Tancredo delivered one heck of a stem-winder centered on his opposition to illegal immigration. "We are at war for the survival of our republic and our way of life," said Tancredo at one point. He drew HUGE applause for this description of what a Tancredo foreign policy would look like: "The only rule of engagement I am going to have in a Tancredo administration is this: We win, you lose."

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when will they release the results of the straw poll?
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more more we want more Ron Paul to speak out...to represent WE THE PEOPLE


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when will they release the results of the straw poll?
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when will they release the results of the straw poll?


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thank you for posting that time
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[link to www.reason.com]

Republican consultant and blogger Patrick Ruffini is predicting that Ron Paul will come in second (to Mitt Romney's first) in the August 11 Ames, Iowa straw poll.
He leads the second tier in cash-on-hand. He was able to get 1,200 people out to the Hy-Vee (has any candidate done something that big on their own, not at an RPI event?). His home base in Texas isn’t that far of a drive, and his people are motivated enough to come in from out of state for him. And he’s making a big push on his Web site, which for all intents and purposes, is his campaign.

I was skeptical: Ruffini predicted that Paul's second quarter fundraising could top $4 million, then seemed awfully sanguine about Paul's "disappointing" $2.4 million haul. So I asked Paul's communications director Jesse Benton what the campaign would consider a victory at Ames.

"We expect to be in the top three," Benton said. "We've got four staffers organizing and we've got a lot of web site RSVPs from volunteers."

In 1999 George W. Bush won the straw poll after spending almost $1 million to buy the tickets attendees needed to cast their ballots. The Paul campaign won't buy blocks of $35 tickets: they're counting on a critical mass of Paul supporters who'll pay their own way.

"We're not trying to buy it like some people who will remain nameless," Benton said.
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which is good
then they can't accuse Ron Paul of buying this straw poll result
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My prediction is the same as Patrick Ruffini's, although I'm praying for a Ron Paul win.
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Mods, can we get a pin on this around 8?

A lot of us are watching this closely.
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May the voters of Iowa vote today with discernment! All the best to Dr Ron Paul and his wife Carol.
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Fox news was just reporting that there is a problem with the vote counting machines. Glitches or something. Said it's happened a few times in the past.

Hmmmm...
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Any further news after the "votes" have been "counted?"

I'm so fucking sick of this corruption. Makes me want to destroy everything besides a few things like the Constitution and start all over again.
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Mitt Romney is a joke. He had 100 buses, over 1,000 volunteers, and actually poured lots of money in this straw poll and he only got 32% against a field of almost exclusively second and third tier candidates. This is a pathetic showing by someone who is considered one of the first tier candidates. Romney needed at least 40% to avoid a weak performance and he failed. I think this is the beginning of the end for the Romney campaign.

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There is no law requiring me to believe these results, and I don't.
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I'm curious as to who is donating and funding Mitt's campaign, and who are the people that are in his staff. It seems to me that hes like Bush v2.0, and we need to do something about it.

Look @ the Q2 financial records:

Mitt Romney -- Cash on hand: $12,121,554
Ron Paul -- Cash on hand: $2,354,855
Rudy Giuliani -- Cash on hand: $18,326,820

So how much did Mitty just waste on this stupid thing? A million or millions? :)

While Rudy and John were going around the country raising funds and the like. Hmm.
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Laura Ingraham should really be called onto the carpet over this one. It was absolutely disgusting. And yes, I would be angry if she had done this to ANY candidate. She was asked to introduce the guests, not belittle them.

Romney support comes from evangelicals, The Mormons, He is also chairman of Republican Governor's Association and is the choice of Bushco and Big Oil... Oh, did I mention AIPAC?
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Awwww crap. He has big business & extremist/insane organized religion on his side. GREAT. They can't win AGAIN!

"1) Mitt Romney is a joke. He had 100 buses, over 1,000 volunteers, and actually poured lots of money in this straw poll and he only got 32% against a field of almost exclusively second and third tier candidates. This is a pathetic showing by someone who is considered one of the first tier candidates. Romney needed at least 40% to avoid a weak performance and he failed. I think this is the beginning of the end for the Romney campaign.

5) Ron Paul should also be happy as well. 9% for a candidate who only started spending time in Iowa last weekend, airing ads the middle of this week, had no serious organization, and was mired in controversy caused by some of their more fringe supporters with bogus lawsuits is not bad. Ron Paul’s speech was one of the best, content wise, of the straw poll. He earned a lot of respect today from GOP conservative voters by deemphasizing his anti-war rhetoric and instead touching on small government and values issues. He will also pick up sympathy for the rude treatment his supporters received by Laura Ingraham. However, Ron Paul will lose some of this newfound sympathy and respect if his supporters decide to challenge the results. Good news, I don’t think they will. What the Paul campaign needs to do is start working with GOP leaders and organizations instead of treating them like the enemy and start encouraging their supporters to become more involved with the GOP and reach out to GOP voters and restrain their more fringe followers like the 9/11 “Truthers”, the anti-Semites,"

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AMES, Iowa -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney won the straw poll with 4,516 votes Saturday in Ames.

There were 14,302 votes cast. No. 11 John Cox had 41 votes. No. 10 was Arizona Sen. John McCain with 101 votes. No. 9 was Duncan Hunter with 174 votes. No. 8 Rudy Giuliani with 183 votes. No. 7 was former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson with 203 votes. No. 6 former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson with 1,039 7.3 percent No. 5 U.S. Rep. Ron Paul 1,305 votes. No. 4. Colorado U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo 1,961 votes. No. 3 Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback 2,192 votes. No. 2 Gov. Mike Huckabee had 2,587 votes. .............

About 30,000 to 33,000 Republicans VOTED for who they want to become president in 2008. Voting wrapped up at 6 p.m. The results were delayed and were not released until after 8 p.m.


Thursday, August 9, 2007

I could certainly write volumes about this, but I think the facts paint the picture themselves.

The Iowa GOP is facing possible suit over their use of the same Diebold machines that were just de-certified. Story here.

They are claiming of course, that there is nothing to worry about since the voting procedure will be conducted with the assistance and oversight of the Story County Auditor's Office. Story here.

If we look here we see the Story County Auditor is Mary Mosiman.

Mary Mosiman also happens to be on Mitt Romney's "Romney for President Leadership Team".

That's a blatant conflict of interest and this is something we cannot ignore.

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PS. It's also worth noting that according to this article, Romney's Commonwealth PAC gave State Auditor David A. Vaudt $1,000 in 2004.
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It's funny, the MSM says he has all these die-hard fans on the internet that are manipulating the polls but they don't take into account the massive support he has in person at the debates.

How much longer can they just say it's a tight-nit group on the internet and not say a thing about all the real people that show up to support him. The MSM is starting to show their cards and people are figuring it out.
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It's funny, the MSM says he has all these die-hard fans on the internet that are manipulating the polls but they don't take into account the massive support he has in person at the debates.

How much longer can they just say it's a tight-nit group on the internet and not say a thing about all the real people that show up to support him.
 Quoting: King James

As long as they still use Diebold machines and Mitt Romney supporters to tally the votes.

You know what Stalin said: "It's not the people who cast the votes that are important, it's the people who count the votes."

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